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2012-05-09 11:29:58 AM
Will there be a scene with Black Widow, Maria Hill, and Pepper Potts taking a shower together after a hard day of training? I'll be in my bunk.....
 
2012-05-09 11:34:28 AM

Raug the Dwarf: Pym


Fair enough. Pym was actually mentioned in Ironman so it will be interesting to see what the Ant Man movie is like
 
2012-05-09 11:35:38 AM
From Wikipedia:

In the 2012 movie The Avengers, after a battle in New York City, Robert Downey, Jr.'s character Tony Stark (Iron Man) suggests going to visit "a shawarma place a few blocks down." He quips: "I don't know what it is, but I want to try it." An after credits scene shows the main characters at the "shawarma place." TMZ reported that, as a result of this scene, sales of shawarma rose at least 80% in the Los Angeles area within days of the movie's release.
 
2012-05-09 11:41:05 AM
Casting call for Luke Cage and Iron Fist?

Also, what about the Abomination? He was still squirming after Ed Norton Hulk stomped on him. Wheres he at?
 
2012-05-09 11:49:36 AM

Zombie DJ: So.....is Avengers the sequel to Captain America, because of Fury, which was a sequel to Thor, because of Coulson, which was a sequel to Iron Man 2, which was a sequel to Incredible Hulk because of Stark, which was a sequel to Iron Man?
Or are they considered separate?


The order is made a bit more clear in the comic miniseries "Fury's Big Week" which outlines the fact that the climax of each of the movies (except for Iron Man 1) takes place over the course of a week, much of it happening simultaneously.

Essentially, the events of Iron Man 2 come first, and overlap with the events in Incredible Hulk (Stark's meeting with Ross takes place just before Ross makes his final assault on the Hulk). The events in Thor take place shortly after the Hulk/Abomination battle in New York City.

Thor leaves Earth to deal with Loki, Banner (having defeated the Abomination) runs away to India via Pakistan, and Stark is rejected for the Avengers Initiative around the same time (or over the course of a few days, anyway). Captain America is found not long after that, and this leads into The Avengers.

The time span between the end of Captain America and the beginning of The Avengers is hazy, though.... Up to a year, according to the movie's dialogue, or much sooner than that if you take the comic's word for it.
 
2012-05-09 11:50:11 AM
Saw it on Sunday, going to see it again today.

Bummed that Coulson was killed. He was so......cool.
 
2012-05-09 11:50:42 AM

zekeburger: Will there be a scene with Black Widow, Maria Hill, and Pepper Potts taking a shower together after a hard day of training? I'll be in my bunk.....



I'm...going to take a cold shower now.
 
2012-05-09 11:57:23 AM

zinethar: Or that be the full-on ending. The whole movie could either be an assault on Asgard culminating in the Gauntlet being stolen, or Thanos chasing down the rest of the scattered Gems with Thor trying to stop him. The end credit scenes could set up Avengers 2 facing Thanos *with* the fully loaded Gauntlet.


I would watch the fark out of that movie.
 
2012-05-09 12:05:05 PM

hailin: theflatline: Ruffalo owned the Hulk.

Meh, I think that is only because he had limited scenes. Don't get me wrong, I like Ruffalo, but there is a reason they are making Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 yet haven't announced anything for a Hulk 2. I don't think Ruffalo can carry his own movie. He is an awesome supporting actor though.


I too am currently in this boat as Mark Ruffalo has been a character actor trying to break out for a while. I think he could do it, but the writing would have to be stellar.
 
2012-05-09 12:09:59 PM
Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?
 
2012-05-09 12:14:29 PM

Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?


Would you give a sh*t if you were?
 
2012-05-09 12:15:52 PM

Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?


Not at all. The fine group of gentlemen and women here not only tolerate varying opinions, but warmly embrace them!
 
2012-05-09 12:16:26 PM
I am pretty cynical about big action flicks.
It takes a good amount to impress me.
My list of Big Blockbuster Action Movies that I HATE is much longer than ones I've liked. (anything by Michael Bay is automatically in the HATE category)

All that being said, Avengers impressed me, but not overwhelmingly so. I'd give it a solid 3 out of 4 stars. It wasn't a waste of money or time to see it. I'll see the sequel if it's about Thanos & the Infinity Gauntlet.
 
2012-05-09 12:19:47 PM

The Muthaship: Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?

Would you give a sh*t if you were?


Not at all. I just want to know how deep the pool is before I jump in.
 
2012-05-09 12:20:52 PM

Subdue their bellies: Casting call for Luke Cage and Iron Fist?

Also, what about the Abomination? He was still squirming after Ed Norton Hulk stomped on him. Wheres he at?


According to the vignette on the Thor DVD Ross has him. Whether that means they managed to shrink him back down to normal Blonsky, contain him with equipment designed for Hulk or dissect him in the name of science is open to interpretation.
 
2012-05-09 12:21:18 PM

Rent Party: I just want to know how deep the pool is before I jump in.


It's safe, jump away.

All the gushing gets stale.

/I haven't seen it
 
2012-05-09 12:21:51 PM

Rwa2play: $700 Million in under 2 weeks...YOWZA!

I think they'll break $1 BILLION this weekend...

DC/WB, the Infinity Gauntlet has been thrown down.


FTFY.

Although I'm a big fan of Batman, always have been always will, the Avengers actually has me excited for the Marvel franchise.
 
2012-05-09 12:23:40 PM
Nathan Fillion as Ant Man
Kate Beckinsale as Wasp
Have the of voice of Kratos to voice Thanos

DONE!
 
2012-05-09 12:24:06 PM
Your move,Warner Brothers. Better make it count.
 
2012-05-09 12:24:49 PM

scarmig: Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?

Not at all. The fine group of gentlemen and women here not only tolerate varying opinions, but warmly embrace them!


Ah, fair play then.

Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.
 
2012-05-09 12:27:19 PM

Rent Party: scarmig: Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?

Not at all. The fine group of gentlemen and women here not only tolerate varying opinions, but warmly embrace them!

Ah, fair play then.

Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.


So you don't like comic books in general? The movies made it pretty clear that all these characters exist in the same world in their dedicated movies.
 
2012-05-09 12:27:22 PM
i151.photobucket.com
This thread is useless without pics.

/does this one mean ScarJo is no longer an Obama supporter?
 
2012-05-09 12:28:24 PM

homarjr: I'm as excited as the next guy for the next installment of this series, but there's one thing it doesn't have that makes me just giddy for TDKR over any other movie right now - and that's the fact that we don't know who's going to win between Bane and Batman.

Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Cap will never die in this series. Sooner or later, that's going to get old. I assume by Avengers 3, we're going to be sick of these characters.

If Whedon (or whoever directs the next one) kills off one of the main characters, it's the best thing that could happen.


Have you seen the Avengers? I don't want to get all spoilery but a major character does get killed off.
 
2012-05-09 12:33:43 PM

bill4935: Moon Knight


I jizzed a little in my pants.

ManateeGag: Odin's "Warehouse o' Weapons™" has a revolving door on it. I'm sure Thanos won't have a problem getting his hands on it.


I broke into it yesterday.

Subdue their bellies: Casting call for Luke Cage and Iron Fist?


Danny = Ryan Kwanten. I want this so bad.

Rent Party: Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.


It helps if you understand that Loki is Tony's mother.
 
2012-05-09 12:38:43 PM

Mildot: Andrew Wiggin: LordZorch: The big question is "Are you Team Thanos or Team Hulk?"

who will play the beautiful mistress death?

[www.celebridoodle.com image 500x695]

oh c'mon, her personality is kind of deathy


Hey, I'd go for that if her character is killed off early in the movie. Kind of like Paltrow in Contagion.
 
2012-05-09 12:39:33 PM

Rent Party: Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.



That's not a terribly open-minded argument. In the movie Stark even mentioned that 'this is magic and gods, which is pretty out-there" or something to that effect

Besides, in the comic books, several of Iron Man's most prevalent villains are magic or god-like. The next iron Man movie is going to involve Mandarin, who is a magician (lightning from his fingertips & all that)

I see what you're saying; the juxtaposition of fantasy and sci-fi, but that mixture CAN work, quite well, given the right writing.
 
2012-05-09 12:39:50 PM

Carth:
"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.

So you don't like comic books in general? The movies made it pretty clear that all these characters exist in the same world in their dedicated movies.


Generally no, but that isn't relevant. I never judge movies by the book, if they were derived from a book. The movie stands or falls on it's own merits.

I know all the references were in most of the movies. Capt America's Shield in Tony Stark's shop, Selvig mentioning Banner, etc... But when it all came together, I just don't think it worked. Take Thor out and you basically have a bunch of scientists and spies doing scientific spying kind of stuff and you can make a good story out of it. Add Thor/Loki in the mix, and now it's something different that's not quite sci-fi, and not quite fantasy.
 
2012-05-09 12:41:05 PM

Braindeath:

It helps if you understand that Loki is Tony's mother.


You will have to help me out here...
 
2012-05-09 12:41:23 PM
so, now that we've seen how it should be done with the avengers...

can we all just be honest with ourselves and admit that x-men first class was a steaming pile?
 
2012-05-09 12:43:30 PM
Ok, I'm going to have to be "that guy" in a thread. Do people really like Thanos that much as a villain?

I don't care who they include for Avengers because my reading of comics never went past story arcs of some of the main Marvel and DC, mainly spiderman and batman so I've just never seen Thanos in action or Darksied for that matter. Just reading up on him he seems like some super powerful all knowing being, which kind of sucks.
 
2012-05-09 12:44:15 PM

DeusMeh: so, now that we've seen how it should be done with the avengers...

can we all just be honest with ourselves and admit that x-men first class was a steaming pile?


It was better than X3, not even Ellen Page in leather could save that movie.
 
2012-05-09 12:44:28 PM

schattenteufel: Rent Party: Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.


That's not a terribly open-minded argument. In the movie Stark even mentioned that 'this is magic and gods, which is pretty out-there" or something to that effect

Besides, in the comic books, several of Iron Man's most prevalent villains are magic or god-like. The next iron Man movie is going to involve Mandarin, who is a magician (lightning from his fingertips & all that)

I see what you're saying; the juxtaposition of fantasy and sci-fi, but that mixture CAN work, quite well, given the right writing.


I took that as Stark sarcasm when he said it. And as I mentioned, I don't really care about the source material, only the movie.

And I'll be honest, other than more of Scarlett J in less clothing, what the Avengers needed most was

flylyf.com

/ As did IM-2
 
2012-05-09 12:45:34 PM

Rent Party: scarmig: Rent Party: Will I be mercilessly mocked and derided if I confess thatI found Avengers disappointing?

Not at all. The fine group of gentlemen and women here not only tolerate varying opinions, but warmly embrace them!

Ah, fair play then.

Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.


You weren't paying attention, then.

In the movies, the Asgardians are described as extradimensional aliens with technology so advanced it seems like magic to the people of Earth.

Every one of the Marvel Movie Universe flicks is Science Fantasy. Tony Stark's armor is science fantasy, Thor's hammer is science fantasy, Hawkeye's bow is science fantasy, the Hulk's transformation is science fantasy.

There's no "pure fantasy" here, from a literary sense.
 
2012-05-09 12:46:06 PM

Rent Party: Carth:
"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.

So you don't like comic books in general? The movies made it pretty clear that all these characters exist in the same world in their dedicated movies.

Generally no, but that isn't relevant. I never judge movies by the book, if they were derived from a book. The movie stands or falls on it's own merits.

Add Thor/Loki in the mix, and now it's something different that's not quite sci-fi, and not quite fantasy.


That's what comic book are a fantasy/scifi hybrid with magic and technology both being used sometimes interchangeably. Joss, being a big comic book fan, likely wanted to recreate that environment and the thor/loki scenes of magic did a great job there. I can understand someone not liking it if they aren't used to that style but it worked exactly as intended.
 
2012-05-09 12:50:29 PM

Rent Party: schattenteufel: Rent Party: Individually, each of the individual movies was fine, but I thought the mashup failed. Thor and Loki are pure fantasy characters. Stark and Bannon are completely rational genius types.

"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.


That's not a terribly open-minded argument. In the movie Stark even mentioned that 'this is magic and gods, which is pretty out-there" or something to that effect

Besides, in the comic books, several of Iron Man's most prevalent villains are magic or god-like. The next iron Man movie is going to involve Mandarin, who is a magician (lightning from his fingertips & all that)

I see what you're saying; the juxtaposition of fantasy and sci-fi, but that mixture CAN work, quite well, given the right writing.

I took that as Stark sarcasm when he said it. And as I mentioned, I don't really care about the source material, only the movie.

And I'll be honest, other than more of Scarlett J in less clothing, what the Avengers needed most was (War Machine)


Yeah... I'm not sure how that fits with things in the movie. It doesn't make a lot of sense that there would be this major alien threat, and War Machine wouldn't be called in to help out. He could have been there quickly, he would have been very helpful, and yet... nothing.

Maybe he was out handling some other crisis?
 
2012-05-09 12:51:02 PM

eddievercetti:

It was better than X3, not even Ellen Page in leather could save that movie.


your bar is set pretty low, huh?
 
2012-05-09 12:51:26 PM

Rent Party: Carth:
"Demi-gods from way outer space vs. Iron Man" just didn't work. It was like putting chocolate sauce on your chili dog.

So you don't like comic books in general? The movies made it pretty clear that all these characters exist in the same world in their dedicated movies.

Generally no, but that isn't relevant. I never judge movies by the book, if they were derived from a book. The movie stands or falls on it's own merits.

I know all the references were in most of the movies. Capt America's Shield in Tony Stark's shop, Selvig mentioning Banner, etc... But when it all came together, I just don't think it worked. Take Thor out and you basically have a bunch of scientists and spies doing scientific spying kind of stuff and you can make a good story out of it. Add Thor/Loki in the mix, and now it's something different that's not quite sci-fi, and not quite fantasy.


I think they kind of went out of their way in Thor/Avengers to show that old maxim "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Thor says so in his first movie. Yes, the Cosmic Cube Tesseract is a weird, far out alien/supernatural thing, but SHIELD was on the verge of making bombs out of it. Loki needed a human scientist to get it to work for him. Asgard is basically another planet/dimension, amongst many. Fury calls Thor a space alien to his face. There's nothing "pure fantasy" about it, it's just sci-fi where they don't explain in gory detail how it all works. The culture of Asgard treats their science differently than Earth, which makes humans look at it more like magic. I'm guessing Asgard doesn't do textbooks very well.
 
2012-05-09 12:51:28 PM
img545.imageshack.us

Thanos? Meh.
 
2012-05-09 12:52:29 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-09 12:52:41 PM

SithLord: Rwa2play: $700 Million in under 2 weeks...YOWZA!

I think they'll break $1 BILLION this weekend...

DC/WB, the Infinity Gauntlet has been thrown down.

FTFY.

Although I'm a big fan of Batman, always have been always will, the Avengers actually has me excited for the Marvel franchise.


I've been a big DC fan since I was young (first hero was Captain Marvel, no not Mar-Vell or Carol Danvers). The Marvel love came in when I was a teenager reading Dr. Strange and Avengers West Coast. So, I have love for both companies. Marvel, however, has been either decent to killing it with all of their movies while DC's been tripping over themselves (bar Nolan's Batman).

Even contemplating a superhero group movie was thought of as a major pipedream...until "X-Men." "The Avengers" just reinforced that "Yeah, not only can it be done, but it can be done in spades."
 
2012-05-09 12:54:22 PM

Gunny Highway: Slaves2Darkness: Andrew Wiggin: LordZorch: The big question is "Are you Team Thanos or Team Hulk?"

I'm going with Team Thanos....

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who will play the beautiful mistress death?

You fool! Hulk wins, Hulk always smashes his way to a win. Even when the "Heros" of Earth get tired of a little destruction when he is around, and that they just can't get insurance on the Avengers mansion with him as a member, and banish him to another planet Hulk still wins.

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Hulk is the strongest there is. That's what made Planet/World War Hulk so enjoyable. Tony/SHIELD tricks him into a rocket heading away from Earth. Stark pulls a Kirk/Khan and Ceti Alpha 5 becomes the home that almost literally blows up in his face, and Hulk falls in love with an Earth Elemental priestess who dies when his ship's engine core explodes. Hulk blames pretty much everyone in the Marvel universe for her death (mainly the Illuminati with Stark, Namor, Strange and Professor X at the helm), takes his new army back to Earth and kicks ass. All. Ass. Then the clinically depressed superhero with the power of a thousand suns beats him.

/I just saved you $30 in trade paperbacks
//You're welcome
///Still worth the read, if only for the part with Black Bolt
 
2012-05-09 12:54:23 PM

eddievercetti: Kate Beckinsale as WaspScarlet Witch.


BETTER....MUCH BETTER!

Have the of voice of Kratos to voice Thanos

DONE!


This.
 
2012-05-09 12:57:10 PM

nmiguy: homarjr: I'm as excited as the next guy for the next installment of this series, but there's one thing it doesn't have that makes me just giddy for TDKR over any other movie right now - and that's the fact that we don't know who's going to win between Bane and Batman.

Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Cap will never die in this series. Sooner or later, that's going to get old. I assume by Avengers 3, we're going to be sick of these characters.

If Whedon (or whoever directs the next one) kills off one of the main characters, it's the best thing that could happen.

Have you seen the Avengers? I don't want to get all spoilery but a major character does get killed off.


Either you haven't seen the movie or you have no idea what "major" means.
 
2012-05-09 12:57:56 PM

DeusMeh: so, now that we've seen how it should be done with the avengers...

can we all just be honest with ourselves and admit that x-men first class was a steaming pile?


I don't know about "steaming pile," but it wasn't a good movie. There were some bits of that movie I liked, but there was even more stuff I really disliked about it.

And that's even before you take all of the continuity problems into account.
 
2012-05-09 01:07:55 PM

th0th: Gunny Highway: Slaves2Darkness: Andrew Wiggin: LordZorch: The big question is "Are you Team Thanos or Team Hulk?"

I'm going with Team Thanos....

[goodcomics.comicbookresources.com image 451x452]

who will play the beautiful mistress death?

You fool! Hulk wins, Hulk always smashes his way to a win. Even when the "Heros" of Earth get tired of a little destruction when he is around, and that they just can't get insurance on the Avengers mansion with him as a member, and banish him to another planet Hulk still wins.

[28.media.tumblr.com image 460x700]

Hulk is the strongest there is. That's what made Planet/World War Hulk so enjoyable. Tony/SHIELD tricks him into a rocket heading away from Earth. Stark pulls a Kirk/Khan and Ceti Alpha 5 becomes the home that almost literally blows up in his face, and Hulk falls in love with an Earth Elemental priestess who dies when his ship's engine core explodes. Hulk blames pretty much everyone in the Marvel universe for her death (mainly the Illuminati with Stark, Namor, Strange and Professor X at the helm), takes his new army back to Earth and kicks ass. All. Ass. Then the clinically depressed superhero with the power of a thousand suns beats him.

/I just saved you $30 in trade paperbacks
//You're welcome
///Still worth the read, if only for the part with Black Bolt



Bullshiat. Sentry DOES NOT beat Hulk. If anything they fought to a stalemate and that's pushing it. They really fought until their energy was totally drained, except Sentry returns to human form and passes out, Banner doesn't pass out, I think he turns back into the Hulk before Stark uses that red beam thingy.

/fark you sentry
 
2012-05-09 01:08:33 PM

Subdue their bellies: Casting call for Luke Cage and Iron Fist?

Also, what about the Abomination? He was still squirming after Ed Norton Hulk stomped on him. Wheres he at?


From WIKI

"Agent Coulson informs Agent Sitwell that the World Security Council wishes Emil Blonsky (Tim Roth) released from prison to join the Avenger Initiative. They see him as a war hero and blame his fight in New York City with Bruce Banner (Edward Norton) on Banner himself. They order S.H.I.E.L.D. to send an agent to ask General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross (William Hurt) to release Blonsky into their custody. The two agents decide to send a patsy to sabotage the meeting, so that Ross will refuse to release Blonsky. At Sitwell's urging, Coulson reluctantly sends the consultant: Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.). As partially depicted in the pre-credits scene of The Incredible Hulk, a disgraced Ross sits drinking in a bar, when he is approached by Stark, who ends up annoying Ross so much that Ross tries to have him removed from the bar. In reply, Stark buys the bar, and schedules it for demolition. The next day at the restaurant, Sitwell arrives to Coulson eating breakfast. Coulson informs him that their plan worked, and that Blonsky will remain in prison."
 
2012-05-09 01:10:02 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: So. Whedon helmed one of the biggest movie success' in history.

*claps hands together and rubs them vigorusly

SO. Let's talk Firefly season 2.


I saw a youtube video once where an elephant painted a picture by numbers. The elephant could have directed Avengers Assembly with the same Whedon results.


/and where the fark was the end of credits scene? I saw the film in the UK and waited and waited and there was no end credit scene at a diner, sonavbiatch!
 
2012-05-09 01:10:15 PM
 
2012-05-09 01:13:01 PM

thecpt: Ok, I'm going to have to be "that guy" in a thread. Do people really like Thanos that much as a villain?

I don't care who they include for Avengers because my reading of comics never went past story arcs of some of the main Marvel and DC, mainly spiderman and batman so I've just never seen Thanos in action or Darksied for that matter. Just reading up on him he seems like some super powerful all knowing being, which kind of sucks.



I'm with you on that. I always found Thanos a boring character too. But if that's the bad guy for Avengers 2, I'll still give it a try. I have confidence that Joss Whedon could make a good movie even if he's using a lame character like that as the big bad. I think he'd probably flesh him out better than the comics did.


Trocadero: I think they kind of went out of their way in Thor/Avengers to show that old maxim "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Thor says so in his first movie. Yes, the Cosmic Cube Tesseract is a weird, far out alien/supernatural thing, but SHIELD was on the verge of making bombs out of it. Loki needed a human scientist to get it to work for him. Asgard is basically another planet/dimension, amongst many. Fury calls Thor a space alien to his face. There's nothing "pure fantasy" about it, it's just sci-fi where they don't explain in gory detail how it all works. The culture of Asgard treats their science differently than Earth, which makes humans look at it more like magic. I'm guessing Asgard doesn't do textbooks very well.



This. I was going to explain that but you beat me to it. I actually was a little surprised (somewhat pleasantly) at how explicit they were in the movie about that. I mean, Fury straight up called Thor a space alien... And forgive me if I'm confusing a scene in Thor for one in Avengers, but they straight up use the Arthur C. Clarke line about how "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - I think in both movies. Definitely in Thor though. That's why when Odin banishes Thor he takes his hammer AND his outfit. I thought they made it pretty clear it was his outfit that granted him his god-like strength and endurance. It's just like Iron Man's suit, but using Asgardian technology instead of Earth technology like Iron Man does.
 
2012-05-09 01:16:22 PM

mongbiohazard: thecpt: Ok, I'm going to have to be "that guy" in a thread. Do people really like Thanos that much as a villain?

I don't care who they include for Avengers because my reading of comics never went past story arcs of some of the main Marvel and DC, mainly spiderman and batman so I've just never seen Thanos in action or Darksied for that matter. Just reading up on him he seems like some super powerful all knowing being, which kind of sucks.


I'm with you on that. I always found Thanos a boring character too. But if that's the bad guy for Avengers 2, I'll still give it a try. I have confidence that Joss Whedon could make a good movie even if he's using a lame character like that as the big bad. I think he'd probably flesh him out better than the comics did.


Trocadero: I think they kind of went out of their way in Thor/Avengers to show that old maxim "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Thor says so in his first movie. Yes, the Cosmic Cube Tesseract is a weird, far out alien/supernatural thing, but SHIELD was on the verge of making bombs out of it. Loki needed a human scientist to get it to work for him. Asgard is basically another planet/dimension, amongst many. Fury calls Thor a space alien to his face. There's nothing "pure fantasy" about it, it's just sci-fi where they don't explain in gory detail how it all works. The culture of Asgard treats their science differently than Earth, which makes humans look at it more like magic. I'm guessing Asgard doesn't do textbooks very well.


This. I was going to explain that but you beat me to it. I actually was a little surprised (somewhat pleasantly) at how explicit they were in the movie about that. I mean, Fury straight up called Thor a space alien... And forgive me if I'm confusing a scene in Thor for one in Avengers, but they straight up use the Arthur C. Clarke line about how "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - I think in both movies. Definitely in T ...


But he doesn't have his full suit when fighting the Hulk on the helicarrier. He does have the hammer though.
 
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