tenpoundsofcheese: Tumunga: theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: and that is why he was voted out.

he is nothing more than a RINO.

You know who else required ideological purity of party members?

Oh wait, I know this one...Stalin? Castro?

Shiat, those are libtard heroes.

You forgot the other hero of the left: Mao.


This was stupid, even from you. Honestly, right-wing trolls are phoning it in these day. Not enough fresh material coming in from your GOP handlers?

MFK: Lost Thought 00: Interviewed this morning, Mourdock says "Bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view"

Did he really say this? If so, he's an asshole of monumental proportions.

One can be a dick of monumental proportions, but wouldn't it be an asshole of Old Faithful proportions?

I_C_Weener: sweetmelissa31: I_C_Weener: Next time live in the state you represent Mr. Lugar.

Is that normal for any Congressperson? Pretty sure they all live near DC most of the time. That's where their job is.

He didn't maintain an Indiana residence. He lived in Virginia and Florida. He hardly ever came to Indiana. He could not answer what address is on his drivers license.

I guess I still don't understand why that's such a big deal. You said you liked him, it sounds like he was getting the job done. The GOP was okay with his residency. Now your state has lost his seniority. And any comittees he was on, wiki says Agriculture and Foreign Relations. He had a 98% attendance record for votes.

To me this looks like a baby with the bathwater kind of thing.

Time for Lugar to defect.

I_C_Weener: PanicMan: I_C_Weener: sweetmelissa31: I_C_Weener: Next time live in the state you represent Mr. Lugar.

Is that normal for any Congressperson? Pretty sure they all live near DC most of the time. That's where their job is.

He didn't maintain an Indiana residence. He lived in Virginia and Florida. He hardly ever came to Indiana. He could not answer what address is on his drivers license.

I guess I still don't understand why that's such a big deal. You said you liked him, it sounds like he was getting the job done. The GOP was okay with his residency. Now your state has lost his seniority. And any comittees he was on, wiki says Agriculture and Foreign Relations. He had a 98% attendance record for votes.

To me this looks like a baby with the bathwater kind of thing.

For me, it was the failure to maintain residency. As for the GOP, they crucified a man for using his recent ex-wife's address as his voter address as he was without a home for the time he voted. They threw him under the bus. They then give Lugar a pass despite his 35+ years of apparent voter fraud among other things.

But, to tell the truth I had these things against Lugar:

1. Residency
2. Voted for 2008 bailouts (I biatched to his office, and for my reward was put on a spam email list).
3. Too long in office. 35 years is too long for anyone, 42 is just crazy.

I just want to know what the hell has happened to Indiana! Jesus, in the last 20 years it's turned into Alabama.

\born and raised in Evansville, most of my family still lives there
\\and they don't understand WTF is going on either

I_C_Weener: 3. Too long in office. 35 years is too long for anyone, 42 is just crazy.

Why is being in office for a long time an inherently bad thing?

Republicans love dicks. Seriously. Think about all the well known conservatives named 'Dick.'

Dick Armey
Dick Cheney
'Richard' Nixon

And so on, and so on.

coont Clinton
coont Obama
coont Johnson
coont Kennedy
coont Carter

This is a fun game, let's keep going.
And let's not forget Dickie Do and The Donnts

or was it Cicky Coo and the Coonts

I_C_Weener: For me, it was the failure to maintain residency. As for the GOP, they crucified a man for using his recent ex-wife's address as his voter address as he was without a home for the time he voted. They threw him under the bus. They then give Lugar a pass despite his 35+ years of apparent voter fraud among other things.

But, to tell the truth I had these things against Lugar:

1. Residency
2. Voted for 2008 bailouts (I biatched to his office, and for my reward was put on a spam email list).
3. Too long in office. 35 years is too long for anyone, 42 is just crazy.


1. Residency is a petty point. He's a Federal representative so his job, representing you, will basically entail a great deal of work in Washington D.C. He cannot be an effective representative if he's absent from the capital and constant back and forth travel from state to district and back would be a strain on anyone's well being and familial life. Not to mention that the cost of such trips would be, since you're requiring them, fairly born by public coffers and it's been my experience that people such as yourself would object to such expenses.

2. A smart person would, instead, focus on the underlying causes, who created the lax regulatory regime, who encouraged the lack of oversight in the financial markets, and steps to take in order to remedy the excesses that made a massive bailout the only reasonable course of action.

3. And yet he was one of the more effective and respected members of the Senate. A long time in office doesn't necessarily mean the man is bad at his job. Presumably you don't go to the doctor's office and insist on using a physician that has less experience. Generally clients purchasing legal services prefer the partner with decades of experience to the associate with none. Being a senator isn't a job for amateurs, it's too complex, there's too much at stake and there are too many responsibilities. That being said, now you'll get to experience the joys of having a brand new senator who will make all the mistakes that a typical new employee will make all the while having zero seniority in his committee assignments.

I_C_Weener: For me it simply that it leads to stagnation. I'll ask you a question, "Why is status quo automatically acceptable?"


So when you have 20 or 30 years of experience in your field your employer should let you go regardless of your actual work performance because your long tenure is indicative of stagnation?

tenpoundsofcheese: let's see if the losers at 0Ws learn from this.

you can get a lot more done at the ballot box than by attempting to blow up bridges and throwing molotov cocktails at the police.

Yeah, because at the ballot box you get to choose between conservative and extra-super conservative.

hasty ambush: Kibbler: hasty ambush: 36 years in office is too long regardless of party affiliation. I am happy to see the power of the incumbency weakened. If you guys really want to see real change you need to vote out those guys who have been in office for 12 years or longer otherwise you will continue to get business as usual.

This is one of those viewpoints that sounds like common sense until you examine it.

1. In what other field would you say that you need to turn over the expertise and leadership on a regular basis? Surgeons? Nuclear plant safety inspectors? Airline pilots?
2. What is the evidence that regular, massive influxes of legislative freshmen have helped? Take your favorite principle--let's say it's deficit reduction--and show me the evidence that election cycles that brought in lots of new blood resulted in reduced deficits.
3. "Business as usual" is something of a loaded phrase. It's not entirely invalid, but balanced against it is a phrase like "unpredictable lunging from one policy to the next."
4. The problem is by no means limited to the legislators themselves, whether they're veterans or newbies. The core of the problem is two entrenched parties that have written "rules" about how Congress works, rules that have no basis in the constitution, or even in law. They're just "rules" that the parties came up with to protect their own interests and keep other parties out. Add on to this an entrenched unelected bureaucracy, also looking after its own interests. Now you inject a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears, fire-breathing ideologues who roar into DC, pounding their fists and shouting, "THIS time, there's going to be CHANGE, THIS time, we MEAN it."

Uh huh.

At some point even airline pilots et get too old or are stuck doing things a ceratin wayausthey have always done it that way.
Senator Lugar was first elected to office in 1976 back when Carter was elected President. He has not really had to live with the rules and laws he has helped imposed on the ...

I don't really disagree with you about Lugar. He's too old and it was time for him to go. I think they'll regret putting a wacko in his place, but that's the way the system works. Also, Lugar is clearly flabbergasted--one might almost say hurt--by his loss. Indicating that he feels that the seat belonged to him for as long as he wanted it. That's another good sign that it's time to go.

But that doesn't mean that longevity in office is a disqualification for office.

anytime you can replace some RINO like Lugar with a level-headed rational centrist like Mourdock without relying on millions in out-of-state anonymous Super PAC money it's probably a good thing.



on the other hand there might have been democrats voting for Mourdock... Lugar was unbeatable... until his own party took a hard right turn... Mourdock is very beatable.

I_C_Weener: Serious Black: I_C_Weener: 3. Too long in office. 35 years is too long for anyone, 42 is just crazy.

Why is being in office for a long time an inherently bad thing?

For me it simply that it leads to stagnation. I'll ask you a question, "Why is status quo automatically acceptable?"

It isn't automatically acceptable, but that doesn't mean that changing the status quo is automatically acceptable either. It's a situational thing that needs to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. If a sitting Senator does a piss-poor job in his first term in representing his constituents and runs for re-election, he should get voted out. If a sitting Senator does a fantastic job in his eighth term in representing his constituents and runs for re-election, he should get voted in for a ninth term.

/obviously age comes into play as well, but Dick Lugar was no Strom Thurmond

JK47: I_C_Weener: For me, it was the failure to maintain residency. As for the GOP, they crucified a man for using his recent ex-wife's address as his voter address as he was without a home for the time he voted. They threw him under the bus. They then give Lugar a pass despite his 35+ years of apparent voter fraud among other things.

But, to tell the truth I had these things against Lugar:

1. Residency
2. Voted for 2008 bailouts (I biatched to his office, and for my reward was put on a spam email list).
3. Too long in office. 35 years is too long for anyone, 42 is just crazy.


1. Residency is a petty point. He's a Federal representative so his job, representing you, will basically entail a great deal of work in Washington D.C. He cannot be an effective representative if he's absent from the capital and constant back and forth travel from state to district and back would be a strain on anyone's well being and familial life. Not to mention that the cost of such trips would be, since you're requiring them, fairly born by public coffers and it's been my experience that people such as yourself would object to such expenses.

2. A smart person would, instead, focus on the underlying causes, who created the lax regulatory regime, who encouraged the lack of oversight in the financial markets, and steps to take in order to remedy the excesses that made a massive bailout the only reasonable course of action.

3. And yet he was one of the more effective and respected members of the Senate. A long time in office doesn't necessarily mean the man is bad at his job. Presumably you don't go to the doctor's office and insist on using a physician that has less experience. Generally clients purchasing legal services prefer the partner with decades of experience to the associate with none. Being a senator isn't a job for amateurs, it's too complex, there's too much at stake and there are too many responsibilities. That being said, now you'll get to experience the joys of having a brand n ...

RE: Point #3, see Wisconsin's Junior Senator Ron "I'm a Businessman" Johnson, who literally ran on the platform that because Russ Feingold was a Senator when the national debt and deficit exploded that he's to blame (as an incumbent). 1.1 million dipshiats bought it and now the Senate is the worse for it.

/Still bitter about Feingold getting bounced, possibly more so then Walker becoming governor.
//and we might be possibly in the same boat when Herb Kohl retires
///but I suppose I can repspect the fact that he said this about retirement "The office doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the people of Wisconsin, and there is something to be said for not staying in office too long,"

Elections
2/16/96
See the New Hampshire debate last night, huh, among the eight remaining Republicans'? I think it's a bad sign that the most frequently used phrase in the debate was "I know you are, but what am I?"
It's another presidential election year, and as we careen toward our quadrennial first Tuesday after the first Monday in November goatfark, we once again get to watch a sweaty gaggle of Republican nozzleheads engage in exactly the same kind of foul, shameless, vulgar sack race that the Democratic nozzleheads engaged in four years ago. All these politicians are interchangeable. That's why the American voter feels as frustrated as a choking victim at a Christian Scientist's award dinner.
Now, I don't want to get off on a rant here, but elections on every governmental level are now Pyrrhic wars of attrition. Potential candidates must run a gauntlet tighter than Phyllis Diller's forehead. You know any real leader won't even get in the game, leaving Americans with a choice between desiccated party apparatchiks, megaloma- niacal bazillionaires, and totalitarian fanatics who think that Pol Pot deserves a posthumous MacArthur grant.
If you want to run, all you need is enough cash to get your platform seen by everybody and enough savvy to craft a brazenly hollow message that cuts like an itty-bitty book-light beacon through everybody else's brazenly hollow message.
And money is just the coal that feeds the Bessemer converter inferno that is mass media.
Television is a continuously expanding black hole of filthy lucre and misinformation. Most current candidates choose a negative advertising campaign. Negative advertising is mean-spirited, intellectually dishonest, and, most important, brutally effective. Just ask Barry Goldwater about the mushroom cloud that ate his career. He's installing cable in Scottsdale right now.
Y'know, negative campaigns work on television because there is no way to answer them. It's like ticktacktoe. The person that goes first always wins. And the public devours it like Hannibal Lecter on a refugee boat leaving Cuba.
Let's cut to the chase. In present-day America, clueless politicians compete for baseless votes cast by uninformed citizens for frighteningly irrational reasons.
Our moral standards are so low and the intellectual field so barren that if John Wayne Gacy rose from the dead tomorrow, he could put on his clown suit, hire Roger Ailes, and get enough name-recognition votes in New Hampshire to knock Dick Lugar out of the race. And then Dick Lugar could drop his alias, reenter the real world, and go back to his given name, Cock Beretta.
Why are Americans so disinterested in politics? Because we can be. Democracy is voluntary.
And our lack of interest hasn't happened overnight. It can be traced directly back to our ever-decreasing attention spans. We need anything politically important rationed out like Pezùsmall, sweet, and coming out of a funny plastic head.
You know, folks, the truth is, really great men never run for President. That's because the mere act of running for President makes you less than great.
Anybody who is willing to endure the indignity of putting his life as well as his family's privacy in the line of fire on the off chance that forty million Americans will see fit to elect him, well, that automatically makes him an asshole.
Only an asshole would want to sit through a five-hour state dinner for the President of Estonia.
Only an asshole would expect his wife to gaze blankly and Stepford-smile while he outlines some bogus plan to use private funding for Strom Thurmond's annual carbon-14 test.
And only a narcissistic asshole would think that he could bring this crazy quilt of 250 million self-centered assholes together. By being all things to all assholes.
As long as a candidate can't be pinned down, he'll win the office. He must feign competency without actually acting in any way where success or failure could be proven. It must look like he is constantly doing something while accomplishing nothing.
Like Vanna White in a power tie. This is the signature of a successful modern-day politician. This is how a politician stays in office.
And politicians today who do get elected to office always have their eye on reelection, turning them into fifty- year-old Eddie Haskells.
"Gee, that's a nice tax plan, Mr. Voter, gee, that's a lovely position on welfare, Mrs. Voter."
Well, you know something, I want the human being representing my country to be just that, a human being. Not a robot, not an android, not some animatron. He should be someone who's alternatingly bold and scared shiatless, like we all are. I want someone who smoked pot, I want someone who got laid. I'm sick and tired of our Presidents being these half-formed body snatcher pods that turn up in Jeff Goldblum's mud bath.
Hey, if you look hard enough, you're gonna find a reason not to elect anyone.
Bob Dornan is so insane that he actually undersells Crazy Eddie.
Pat Buchanan. Okay, forget the fact that his chief aide keeps Hitler's missing testicle in his inside coat pocket. Buchanan is further to the right than a bicyclist on the autobahn. Pat Buchanan is a registered trademark of the National Rifle Association and cannot be used without their express written consent.
Morry Taylor. Hmmm, should I vote for Morry Taylor or should I vote for Mel Cooley. No, no, maybe I'll vote for Larry "Fate and his running mate, Dr. Bellows.
Lamar Alexander's about a month and a half away from playing Norm to Jimmy Carter's Bob Vila. At least Alexander is insightful enough to realize that the current American electorate are such chronic droolers that they would actually vote for a farking shirt.
Bob Dole. I don't know if I want a President who is congratulated on his birthday by Willard Scott.
And finally, how can I vote for Dick Lugar when he doesn't even have the courage to use his real name, Schlong Uzi.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

/Remember when Dennis Miller was cool?

Tumunga: Cythraul: Mugato: Who would voluntarily call himself "Dick"?

Republicans love dicks. Seriously. Think about all the well known conservatives named 'Dick.'

Dick Armey
Dick Cheney
'Richard' Nixon

And so on, and so on.

coont Clinton
coont Obama
coont Johnson
coont Kennedy
coont Carter

This is a fun game, let's keep going.

You're not even trying. [TrollingUsedToMeanSomething.jpg]

tamsnod27: Kibbler: hasty ambush: 36 years in office is too long regardless of party affiliation. I am happy to see the power of the incumbency weakened. If you guys really want to see real change you need to vote out those guys who have been in office for 12 years or longer otherwise you will continue to get business as usual.

This is one of those viewpoints that sounds like common sense until you examine it.

1. In what other field would you say that you need to turn over the expertise and leadership on a regular basis? Surgeons? Nuclear plant safety inspectors? Airline pilots?
2. What is the evidence that regular, massive influxes of legislative freshmen have helped? Take your favorite principle--let's say it's deficit reduction--and show me the evidence that election cycles that brought in lots of new blood resulted in reduced deficits.
3. "Business as usual" is something of a loaded phrase. It's not entirely invalid, but balanced against it is a phrase like "unpredictable lunging from one policy to the next."
4. The problem is by no means limited to the legislators themselves, whether they're veterans or newbies. The core of the problem is two entrenched parties that have written "rules" about how Congress works, rules that have no basis in the constitution, or even in law. They're just "rules" that the parties came up with to protect their own interests and keep other parties out. Add on to this an entrenched unelected bureaucracy, also looking after its own interests. Now you inject a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears, fire-breathing ideologues who roar into DC, pounding their fists and shouting, "THIS time, there's going to be CHANGE, THIS time, we MEAN it."

Uh huh.

HEY, YOU, GET THE FARK OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR INTELLIGENT AND WELL-THOUGHT OUT RESPONSE!
/grunt
//jk

There's nothing intelligent about that argument because it wrongly assumes that just because you keep getting elected, you're a strong, smart leader. That couldn't be further from the truth.

Mearen: There's nothing intelligent about that argument because it wrongly assumes that just because you keep getting elected, you're a strong, smart leader. That couldn't be further from the truth.

It doesn't mean that you're a complacent jackass who couldn't care less about your constituents either. It's a case-by-case issue that needs to be decided by the voters when such a situation comes up.

So what subby is saying is that he's still serving the greater good of his country, even after defeat?

Edsel: Lots of talk about how this is killing the Tea Party - actually this could be one of their biggest victories. This is not a clear-cut win for the Democrats. Mourdock is a hardcore teabagger, but he's not a total whackjob like Sharron Angle or Christine O'Donnell.

He could very well be elected and this will be a tough fight.



And how do you know this? Angle and O'Donnell made it through the primaries on the exact same platform.

This is Indiana, which means our Democrats are fairly conservative, so the Republican candidate (Murdoch) is going to have to go even MORE right then he did against Lugar. The Democrats knew this so put up a really conservative condidite ... if he can pull enough of the middle votes the left will fall into line and he'll pull up the upset.

Remember, Indiana will swing to voting for a Democrat if we don't like the Republican in charge. It's happened many, many times.

Vodka Zombie: MFK: Lost Thought 00: Interviewed this morning, Mourdock says "Bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view"

Did he really say this? If so, he's an asshole of monumental proportions.

Well, he won, so he probably thinks the world is his and everyone in Washington will work withfor him. He's going to be in for a huge surprise if he wins the seat. LOL!

FTF murdick

hasty ambush: 36 years in office is too long regardless of party affiliation. I am happy to see the power of the incumbency weakened. If you guys really want to see real change you need to vote out those guys who have been in office for 12 years or longer otherwise you will continue to get business as usual.

You're right. Ron Paul needs to go. They we will see real change.

Tumunga: Cythraul: Mugato: Who would voluntarily call himself "Dick"?

Republicans love dicks. Seriously. Think about all the well known conservatives named 'Dick.'

Dick Armey
Dick Cheney
'Richard' Nixon

And so on, and so on.

coont Clinton
coont Obama
coont Johnson
coont Kennedy
coont Carter

This is a fun game, let's keep going.

I_C_Weener: 80 year old sore loser. Next time live in the state you represent Mr. Lugar. See you in church this Sunday. Oh wait, that membership is just for show and you show up there once every 6 years.

So, it's better to have someone who lives in the state, but who takes money from and represents interests from outside the state, than someone who lives in DC and represents the state?

I_C_Weener: Carth: I_C_Weener: Carth: I_C_Weener: 80 year old sore loser. Next time live in the state you represent Mr. Lugar. See you in church this Sunday. Oh wait, that membership is just for show and you show up there once every 6 years.

He hasn't lived in the state in about 40 years. Why does it matter all of a sudden?

No one brought it to light until the Sec of State was convicted of voter fraud for address issues. It was kept secret.

People must have known though right? Did he still pay state income tax? Get mail delivered? There is no way whoever Indiana elects is going to bring as much money to the state as Lugar would have but at least the people of the state got their say.

Indiana political reporting g sucks. The party knew. They gave him a letter in 1976 telling him it was ok. farking party sucks too.

But he pretended to live here and his mail was received at his campaign headquarters. Not his family farm. He had. I residential address here. All this was made public this year in an interview with him.

This is about 10% Tea Party and 90% residency. Don't read too much into this as a Tea Party victory.

Presidents Bush plural did the same farking thing.

Tumunga: Edsel: cram_hole: This moron that beat him thinks compromise is a dirty word.

Every teabagger thinks that. It's why they are going to be the death of our democracy.

Compromise for democrats = Agree with our libtard view, or GTFO

Oh if only it were that simple, right Mr. Mayor of Simpleton?

Nice try, Esther Trolle

Vodka Zombie: Tumunga: Cythraul: Mugato: Who would voluntarily call himself "Dick"?

Republicans love dicks. Seriously. Think about all the well known conservatives named 'Dick.'

Dick Armey
Dick Cheney
'Richard' Nixon

And so on, and so on.

coont Clinton
coont Obama
coont Johnson
coont Kennedy
coont Carter

This is a fun game, let's keep going.

No one could be this stupid, could they? I mean, this is just a reprehensible level of retardation; it'd be a miracle to find an actual human typed this out.

The original, or the reply, you elitist, libtard.

Cythraul: Tumunga: theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: and that is why he was voted out.

he is nothing more than a RINO.

You know who else required ideological purity of party members?

Oh wait, I know this one...Stalin? Castro?

Shiat, those are libtard heroes. You wanted me to say something like Hitler, who's another libtard hero, but you farks won't claim him publicly. I lose this round.

Hmmm... I'm thinking 'troll.' What do y'all think?

I tend to think you're right. Actually, this one turned out way better than I thought it would. I like old school trolling, not that new, hurtful stuff they do now days.

Lord_Baull: Tumunga: I don't need to follow politics when I can get all the info I need from Fox News!

Going through life as a ill-informed partisan will just make you bitter and resentful towards successful people.

I don't watch Fox News, because the smart people in the Politics tab said it would make be dumber.

HeartBurnKid: OneTimed: Tumunga: Edsel: cram_hole: This moron that beat him thinks compromise is a dirty word.

Every teabagger thinks that. It's why they are going to be the death of our democracy.

Compromise for democrats = Agree with our libtard view, or GTFO

That's cute, you actually think that Democrats are liberal

And that they don't fold like a card table every time Republicans play hardball.

You all vote them in every 2 years, quit complaining.

CheapEngineer: Tumunga: theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: and that is why he was voted out.

he is nothing more than a RINO.

You know who else required ideological purity of party members?

Oh wait, I know this one...Stalin? Castro?

Shiat, those are libtard heroes. You wanted me to say something like Hitler, who's another libtard hero, but you farks won't claim him publicly. I lose this round.

Oh, no worries. You lost at "libtard".

SHIAT!!1!

theknuckler_33: Cythraul: Tumunga: theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: and that is why he was voted out.

he is nothing more than a RINO.

You know who else required ideological purity of party members?

Oh wait, I know this one...Stalin? Castro?

Shiat, those are libtard heroes. You wanted me to say something like Hitler, who's another libtard hero, but you farks won't claim him publicly. I lose this round.

Hmmm... I'm thinking 'troll.' What do y'all think?

You'd think that the "You know who else..." meme was so ubiquitous at this point that even a troll would let it slide as the joke it was obviously meant to be.

Meh...I don't do memes.

tenpoundsofcheese: Tumunga: theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: and that is why he was voted out.

he is nothing more than a RINO.

You know who else required ideological purity of party members?

Oh wait, I know this one...Stalin? Castro?

Shiat, those are libtard heroes.

You forgot the other hero of the left: Mao.

AND you just got entered into my favorite list

DjangoStonereaver: I can't help but snicker at the pic of the article writer:

[static.talkingpointsmemo.com image 240x240]

Even as I know such behavior is morally deplorable.

Cynthia Nixon's old lady is a journalist?

Tumunga: HeartBurnKid: OneTimed: Tumunga: Edsel: cram_hole: This moron that beat him thinks compromise is a dirty word.

Every teabagger thinks that. It's why they are going to be the death of our democracy.

Compromise for democrats = Agree with our libtard view, or GTFO

That's cute, you actually think that Democrats are liberal

And that they don't fold like a card table every time Republicans play hardball.

You all vote them in every 2 years, quit complaining.

Well, what are my choices? Democrat who'll fold for Republicans, or Republican?

And in House races, I generally don't even get the Democrat.