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(BBC)   Some days, being a scientist is pretty dull. On other days, you come up with a plan to air-drop poisoned mice by parachute to wipe out an army of two million snakes   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 102
    More: Silly, End of World War II in Europe, United States Department of Agriculture, Guam, venomous snakes, wildlife biologist  
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2012-05-09 08:47:24 AM
Don't know if anything will ever top Flaming Bat Bombs on the outrageous scale
 
2012-05-09 09:23:13 AM
I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?
 
2012-05-09 09:29:44 AM
I guess St. Patrick was unavailable.
 
2012-05-09 09:35:55 AM
namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?


Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."
 
2012-05-09 09:43:36 AM
sammyk: namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?

Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."


Lol, now I'm happy.
 
2012-05-09 10:07:00 AM
 
2012-05-09 10:41:16 AM
namegoeshere: sammyk: namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?

Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."

Lol, now I'm happy.


They could have given us video of said mouse drop. Or even better a helmet cam on the little jihad rodents!
 
2012-05-09 10:49:19 AM
Sounds like an iPhone game.
 
2012-05-09 10:50:08 AM
How did they train the mice to pack their own parachutes?
 
2012-05-09 10:52:36 AM
 
2012-05-09 10:52:39 AM
Some other animal will feed on the mice and die.
Ask the Aussies how is that cane toad problem going
 
2012-05-09 10:53:18 AM
That's mad science in the making


/I love it
 
2012-05-09 10:54:13 AM
The wind tunnel at Notre Dame used to be housed in an old Quonset hut. The engineers used to catch all the mice and fire them off once a year in a rocket. And, yes, with little parachutes, too.

Or so i heard.
 
2012-05-09 10:54:43 AM
tommcmahon.typepad.com
"As God as my witness, I thought turkeys mice could fly"
 
2012-05-09 10:55:35 AM
They have snake-sniffing dogs check every box of cargo leaving the island 24/7.

"Letting the snakes on a plane could have devastating consequences"

/mother-farkin' snakes
 
2012-05-09 10:55:35 AM
sammyk: namegoeshere: sammyk: namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?

Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."

Lol, now I'm happy.

They could have given us video of said mouse drop. Or even better a helmet cam on the little jihad rodents!


Ew. If I wanted to see mouse droppings, I'd work in a pet store.
 
2012-05-09 10:56:34 AM
I am tired of these mother farkin' snakes on this mother farkin' Guam
 
2012-05-09 10:56:34 AM
I has a plan.

www.rawstory.com
 
2012-05-09 10:57:24 AM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-05-09 10:57:55 AM
Why not just unleash a bunch of snake-eating gorillas?
 
2012-05-09 10:58:54 AM
Dog Welder: Why not just unleash a bunch of snake-eating gorillas?

San Francisco was booked?
 
2012-05-09 10:59:30 AM
I'll tell you what was creepy about walking through the Guamanian jungle at dusk: the eerie "clack-clack-clack" of coconut crabs feeding. You'd see clusters of them, gathered at a feeding spot, with the soft claking sound going. I was just waiting for them to Zerg rush me....

/spent a year on Guam one month....
/Hafa Adai dudes!
 
2012-05-09 10:59:54 AM
Sadly, the lack of a decent winter freeze in Guam prevents them from using gorillas.
 
2012-05-09 11:00:03 AM
numbone: I has a plan.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]


He looks like he has to get back to Metaluna

/I can see Cals pubic bone!
 
2012-05-09 11:00:46 AM
Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.
 
2012-05-09 11:01:55 AM
I'd go with streamers instead of parachutes. That would probably be sufficient for the mass of a mouse. The hard part would be placing it where mice could chew it off even if they were hanging from the string in a tree... although you need to make it take too long to chew off, so they don't free themselves before launch or in midair.

Or else airdrop flying squirrels.
 
2012-05-09 11:03:32 AM
Isn't this how Outbreak started?
 
2012-05-09 11:04:50 AM
WelldeadLink: I'd go with streamers instead of parachutes. That would probably be sufficient for the mass of a mouse. The hard part would be placing it where mice could chew it off even if they were hanging from the string in a tree... although you need to make it take too long to chew off, so they don't free themselves before launch or in midair.

Or else airdrop flying squirrels.


Aren't the mice dead and laced with the poison before being dropped?
 
2012-05-09 11:05:48 AM
FTFA The island's power system is regularly shorted out by brown tree snakes crawling on the lines. It is so frequent the locals now call power cuts "brown outs"..

OK I see some major FAIL here! LOL
 
2012-05-09 11:07:25 AM
I just want to know how they were planing on harnessing them up. Me personally I would just use staples. It works when I have had to put antlers on mice.
 
2012-05-09 11:07:33 AM
FAIL is for science reporter.. not the locals! You would think she knows what a brownout is as a freking SCIENCE reporter!
 
2012-05-09 11:08:08 AM
Will they play "Ride of the Valkyries" as the mice are parachuting down?
 
2012-05-09 11:08:10 AM
HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.



I'm on it!
static.tvfanatic.com
 
2012-05-09 11:09:14 AM
HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.


Yep, I was just going to suggest that.

Set up a fund worth twice the expected cost (2 million snakes x $5 per snake x 2) = $20 million. The unused funds would be earning enough interest to completely fund the eradication. Make the bounty untaxable and simply pay it in cash no questions asked so that it doesn't reduce things like public benefits (welfare, unemployment, disability, etc.). People who are unemployed, or who just want some extra spending money, would decimate the snake population in short order.

You might never get completely rid of them, but a bounty system like that would be cheaper than parachuting poisoned mice (which *HAS* to cost more than $5 per mouse, and there is no guarantee a snake will take the bait).
 
2012-05-09 11:09:21 AM
sammyk: namegoeshere: sammyk: namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?

Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."

Lol, now I'm happy.

They could have given us video of said mouse drop. Or even better a helmet cam on the little jihad rodents!


What I want to know is how they get them to pull the tiny little ripcords.
 
2012-05-09 11:10:31 AM
HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.


If I am remembering right, GovGuam used to. It didn't really help as there is alot of undeveloped and overgrown areas for them to hide so only the easy to catch ones were caught. It was a fraction of a fraction of the population
 
2012-05-09 11:10:56 AM
theFword: Aren't the mice dead and laced with the poison before being dropped?

I doubt it, if the mice aren't warmer than their environment and moving, the snakes may not see them.
 
2012-05-09 11:11:48 AM
dittybopper: HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.

Yep, I was just going to suggest that.

Set up a fund worth twice the expected cost (2 million snakes x $5 per snake x 2) = $20 million. The unused funds would be earning enough interest to completely fund the eradication. Make the bounty untaxable and simply pay it in cash no questions asked so that it doesn't reduce things like public benefits (welfare, unemployment, disability, etc.). People who are unemployed, or who just want some extra spending money, would decimate the snake population in short order.

You might never get completely rid of them, but a bounty system like that would be cheaper than parachuting poisoned mice (which *HAS* to cost more than $5 per mouse, and there is no guarantee a snake will take the bait).


What is the cost to cage breed snakes? Hmmmm I wonder if I can breed 20000 snakes a year?
 
2012-05-09 11:12:03 AM
If the snakes are as numerous as I've heard, it's probably not a big deal to kill two or three in an hour on average. You could probably make a decent living doing that.
 
2012-05-09 11:12:13 AM
The Faywood Assassin: Will they play "Ride of the Valkyries" as the mice are parachuting down?

They are in my mental image of Operation Mouse Drop. Which is getting lulzier with each post.
 
2012-05-09 11:13:44 AM
The locals call the snake induced power outages "Brown outs"

Ironicly enough, they snakes also have something they call "Brown out"

t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-05-09 11:14:17 AM
sammyk: namegoeshere: sammyk: namegoeshere: I wish I could see that! All those tiny little parachutes falling from the sky...

What do you mean, that's not how they do it?

Try RTFA

"One effort has involved air-dropping mice that have been laced with poison and fitted with parachutes out of helicopters. It provides a deadly dinner for any unsuspecting snakes below."

Lol, now I'm happy.

They could have given us video of said mouse drop. Or even better a helmet cam on the little jihad rodents!


Jahadi Rodents had better be the name of a slam-punk band in Ridyah or there is something fundamentally wrong with the universe.
 
2012-05-09 11:14:59 AM
The scientists are thinking too small.

I would have started with this:
29.media.tumblr.com
and worked my way up.
 
2012-05-09 11:15:44 AM
Problem: Brown snakes are a headache.
Solution: Administer acetaminophen.

Headache gone.
 
2012-05-09 11:17:30 AM
HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.


The British tried that with cobras when they ruled India, it led to a massive increase in the cobra population as people started breeding them just so they could kill them and get the bounties.
 
2012-05-09 11:19:24 AM
Mentat: Obligatory xkcd

imgs.xkcd.com
That was awsomsauce.
 
2012-05-09 11:23:12 AM
mark12A
I'll tell you what was creepy about walking through the Guamanian jungle at dusk: the eerie "clack-clack-clack" of coconut crabs feeding. You'd see clusters of them, gathered at a feeding spot, with the soft claking sound going. I was just waiting for them to Zerg rush me....

/spent a year on Guam one month....
/Hafa Adai dudes!


Hafa Adai!

Spent 3 months playing with a band there back in '83,a guy once showed me where a coconut crab put it's claw through the plastic down to the metal on his steering wheel.
They sure are tasty though.
Merizo Fiesta FTW!
 
2012-05-09 11:23:30 AM
Saiga410: What is the cost to cage breed snakes? Hmmmm I wonder if I can breed 20000 snakes a year?

Probably more than $5 per snake. After all, you have to feed them in order to breed them, and you have to feed their offspring, at least some minimal amount so that they survive long enough for you to collect the bounty. Then you have to maintain their habitat in at least some minimal fashion so that you aren't losing money by having them escape.

Now, if the bounty were up around $20 per snake or higher, I could see where that might be a problem. Not at $5, though.
 
2012-05-09 11:25:08 AM
I know a great way to make an entire species disappear: put them on restaurant menus.

Hey, they're plentiful, and probably taste like chicken. I bet I can make a dozen different things with these snakes.
 
2012-05-09 11:27:48 AM
Magorn: HotIgneous Intruder: Snakes a problem?
Why not just kill them all on sight?
Offer a $5 bounty per snake.

The British tried that with cobras when they ruled India, it led to a massive increase in the cobra population as people started breeding them just so they could kill them and get the bounties.


They set the bounty too high. Or didn't take into account the extreme poverty in India and the fact that they had been keeping captive cobras for centuries, or that there is a huge range in India where they can live. None of those are issues in Guam.

If you set an appropriate bounty that is high enough to make people interested in collecting it, but low enough that breeding them for bounty purposes isn't attractive, you've hit the right economic 'sweet spot'.

Maybe you can set a sliding scale, so that snakes under a certain length only get half the bounty.
 
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