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2012-05-08 11:49:21 PM
Obama will not win North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, etc - only die-hard crackpots support him now

- Out of Iraq in 60 days - HAHA
- Civil Liberties and Privacy Restored - HAH
- Economy Fixed, Jobs for All, All Good! - HAH

He is out - good riddance.
 
2012-05-08 11:49:40 PM

ur14me: /since when are the gheys a "minority" (in the womanly, blackish, Mexican sense of the term)?


New most farking stupid comment of the thread.

/You win, dude.
 
2012-05-08 11:49:43 PM

Frank N Stein: seadoo2006: who the fark cares

Plenty of people, if this law is of any indication.


And you know what? It's none of their damn business. Just like it's none of their damn business if I have freaky, crazy sex with my girlfriend. Am I hurting anyone else? Nope, so fark off and let me live the life I want to live.

But it bugs me, it bugs me so farking much that other people have the GALL to tell other people what they can and cannot do in their own homes on their own time.

As for pride parades, get real ... If you want them to go away, take the god awful 4th of July parades, Memorial Day parades, Easter parades, Thanksgiving Day parades and farking Saint Patrick Day parades away because they are all farking offensive to ME.
 
2012-05-08 11:49:48 PM

BroVinny: bobbette: 2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.

That statement's bullshiat. Gays have pride parades in states where gay marriage is illegal and often in the face of opposition.


Which was the point.
 
2012-05-08 11:49:48 PM

austin_millbarge: Conservatism is a mental disorder.


Because california is so conservative, as is north carolina both states that voted for obama last election.........failure on your part.

And the sign in the article is troubling, is the church implying god wants a threesome with a husband and wife? F*cking perverts......
 
2012-05-08 11:50:06 PM

ur14me: ///can choose to be gay


So when did you choose to be straight?
 
2012-05-08 11:50:09 PM

ur14me: ///can choose to be gay


What are you basing that on?
 
2012-05-08 11:50:13 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Backwards ass-hicks.


FTFY
 
2012-05-08 11:50:22 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: RockChalkH1N1: Yuck... gay people

That's not what you said last night ;_;


Well... I guess you were pretty tender and loving...
 
2012-05-08 11:50:47 PM

stoli n coke: Until you push a bill to make divorce a crime, you don't really give a shiat about the sanctity of marriage and are just trying to be an asshole.


Haven't quite a few fundies pushed for this, or damn near this?
 
2012-05-08 11:50:48 PM

ur14me: ///can choose to be gay


So, when did you choose to be straight?
 
2012-05-08 11:50:55 PM

bobbette: 1. Fark off and don't tell us how to live. Forced assimilation to heterosexual norms? No thank you.

2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.

3. The straights love the drag queens and high camp way more than most of the gays do. I don't give a rat's ass.

4. I dare you to come into a dyke bar and tell a bunch of women in crew cuts and motorcycle jackets that they're hurting the gay cause by putting off "normal" people


1. No need for rude rhetoric.

2. Civil unions (not marriage) were just recently recognized in Illinois, yet Chicago has hosted a pretty big pride parade for decades

3. Citation needed

4. Wishing violence against someone that disagrees with you? Classy.
 
2012-05-08 11:51:06 PM
As a straight man with a family in North Carolina, I would like to say that I and the majority of the people living in Wake county (which contains the capital city, Raleigh), did in fact vote against amendment one.

But as soon as you get outside of the island of education and money that surrounds the colleges, NC turns into backwoods bullshiat hickville. If you want to bring the armies south and raze the hillbillies, go for it. But leave Wake county alone.
 
2012-05-08 11:51:11 PM

eraser8: Honestly, I can't figure out the mindset of a person who thinks, "yeah, I want to vote to take somebody else's rights away."


its easy - just assume that you are always right. the rest comes easy. works on the war on drugs, anti-smoking legislation, seat belt laws, gay marriage, DUI laws...all you have to do is assume that YOU know best and that everyone else is stupid.

you don't even have to be conservative. left wingers do it too. so do some libertarians.
 
2012-05-08 11:51:17 PM

Robots are Strong: CognaciousThunk: Looks like the folks in NC prefer threesomes...

[wwwcache.wral.com image 512x339]

I just wanted to point out for those not from around these parts, this wasn't just some random church, this was an official polling place.


I would have expected better from the Methodists too.
*Shakes head sadly*
 
2012-05-08 11:51:24 PM

bdub77: Thank God we protected the Caucasian race.

/asshats
//voted against it


Most blacks are against homosexual marriage. But continue to blame white people, libtard.
 
2012-05-08 11:51:38 PM

xebeche_tzu: SpaceButler: By the way, is the first part of your username a Dead Man reference?

Yup. Good call.


I applaud your taste in movies and usernames. Have some TF!
 
2012-05-08 11:51:50 PM
farm2.static.flickr.com

Could someone point out the gay ones? Maybe we could dig them up and put them in their own separate little gay area at Arlington. So they don't sully the memories of the real men laying there.
 
2012-05-08 11:51:53 PM

T-Servo: I submitted this with angrier headline.

/but am still wigged out over Michele Bachmann getting a Swiss passport. Srsly? Hell, you lose a Secret clearance if you take a second citizenship, and she sits on the House Intel committee?


Um, what?

We seriously need to iron out the whole dual-citizenship thing, I remember being (possibly mis)taught in high school that applying for foreign citizenships can get your existing citizenship revoked.
 
2012-05-08 11:52:00 PM

bobbette: 2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.


More to the point, this is another instance of bigots actively seeking out and getting outraged by behaviour by gay people that they wouldn't give a second thought to if it was being done by heterosexuals. Even if gay people stopped doing the specific thing they happen to be complaining at that time, they'll just move on to something else.

"You want equal rights, gays? Well then stop kissing each other in public! Don't hold hands where decent straight people are watching! Don't put photographs of your same-sex partners up on your desk! Just follow these instructions and you'll have equal rights, I promise! And just completely ignore all of recorded history where you didn't have any rights even though you never did any of these things and in fact led marginalized and largely invisible existences!"
 
2012-05-08 11:52:02 PM

ur14me: "Banning equal rights for minorities!?!?"

This must mean I can expect "equal rights" for being a member of the Tiny-Peener People? Well, then I demand "equal rights", the same as Big-Peener People!

/since when are the gheys a "minority" (in the womanly, blackish, Mexican sense of the term)?
//can't choose your gender, skin color, country of origin, peener size, etc
///can choose to be gay
////bonus slashie: don't like it? Move somewhere that cares.


Go the FARK away, you ignorant fool.
 
2012-05-08 11:52:05 PM
talkingpointsmemo.com

Well then, fark your God and fark you.
 
2012-05-08 11:52:10 PM

crazytrain: Obama will not win North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, etc - only die-hard crackpots support him now

- Out of Iraq in 60 days - HAHA
- Civil Liberties and Privacy Restored - HAH
- Economy Fixed, Jobs for All, All Good! - HAH

He is out - good riddance.


RON PAUL 2028!

/We're being realistic
 
2012-05-08 11:52:12 PM

Cythraul: BroVinny: bobbette: 2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.

That statement's bullshiat. Gays have pride parades in states where gay marriage is illegal and often in the face of opposition.

Which was the point.


Yes, but why do all these gay guys keep sucking my c0ck?
 
2012-05-08 11:52:48 PM

WhyteRaven74: ImpendingCynic: That decision would have been disastrous before the Civil Rights Act.

The justices of the court wouldn't have given a good god damn, a couple of the justices who were involved in Loving v Virginia were involved in Brown v Topeka Board of Education, these were not men who took kindly to unequal protection under the law.


I really don't know why my words seem to be so confusing. I'm saying that the Loving decision would have been risky unless there were other laws on the books protecting minorities from discrimination, e.g. the Civil Rights Act.

Take a look at the country today, with the poor economy, Teabaggers rallying up the morons with fear tactics and lies, and try to tell me that if the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage tomorrow that all the bigots would say "oh well, guess we lost that one" and not gay-bash in retaliation.
 
2012-05-08 11:52:55 PM

Robots are Strong: CognaciousThunk: Looks like the folks in NC prefer threesomes...

[wwwcache.wral.com image 512x339]

I just wanted to point out for those not from around these parts, this wasn't just some random church, this was an official polling place.



Sooooo...once again, why aren't we taxing these churches? If they want to play politics, then let them pay the price.
 
2012-05-08 11:53:04 PM
They don't want us to unite:
All they want us to do is keep on fussing and fighting.
They don't want to see us live together;
All they want us to do is keep on killing one another

Gay rights, abortion, social services, drugs, taxes, corporate personage, and on and on and on and on.

We are all being pitted against each other to take our focus off the fact we are being played. Uprising in the Middle East, Europe, Africa, Asia and America is a sign that people are seeing through this shiat. We need to stop fighting each other, and start working together to fight the powers that are keeping us down. It blows my mind to see election night dividing our country into red and blue. We will never make any progress in this system.

We've been trodding on the winepress, much too long. REBEL! We've been taken for granted, much too long. REBEL!
 
2012-05-08 11:53:12 PM
Reposted for relevance...


Top Ten Reasons to Make Gay Marriage Illegal

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
 
2012-05-08 11:53:14 PM

steamingpile: Because california is so conservative, as is north carolina both states that voted for obama last election.........failure on your part.


California gave us three presidents: Hoover, Nixon and Reagan. Three of the worst presidents in all of US history.
 
2012-05-08 11:53:31 PM

dosboot: Most blacks are against homosexual marriage. But continue to blame white people, libtard.


There was a rather lovely statement by a black minister in NC against Amendment One, there's even youtube video of his statement if you care to see it.
 
2012-05-08 11:53:59 PM

BroVinny: bobbette: 2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.

That statement's bullshiat. Gays have pride parades in states where gay marriage is illegal and often in the face of opposition.


Yes, but the biggest and best-attended pride parades - and they're usually the ones that are more risqué - happen in places where gays are more accepted. Because there are more gays there, there's far more spectators, and because there are so many spectators the parades have far more corporate sponsorship, and banks and airlines hire sexy go-go boys in tiny underwear and outrageous drag queens to dance on their floats. And the straight people eat that sh*t up because it's a great show.
 
2012-05-08 11:54:21 PM

dosboot: bdub77: Thank God we protected the Caucasian race.

/asshats
//voted against it

Most blacks are against homosexual marriage. But continue to blame white people, libtard.


Oh good, I get to teach you a lesson, idiot. The wife of the guy who proposed the amendment had some very interesting comments on her reasoning for the amendment.

Link
 
2012-05-08 11:54:22 PM

Cythraul: BroVinny: bobbette: 2. You know where we have those parades? Places where gays are accepted and gay marriage is legal.

That statement's bullshiat. Gays have pride parades in states where gay marriage is illegal and often in the face of opposition.

Which was the point.


RIght, well you can't very well say "places where gays are accepted" and then ignore the fact that in many places they're not wholeheartedly accepted but merely tolerated. Perhaps that was the word bobbette was going for.
 
2012-05-08 11:54:33 PM

eraser8: steamingpile: Because california is so conservative, as is north carolina both states that voted for obama last election.........failure on your part.

California gave us three presidents: Hoover, Nixon and Reagan. Three of the worst presidents in all of US history.


Hoover was from Iowa.
 
2012-05-08 11:54:39 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: [farm2.static.flickr.com image 500x357]

Could someone point out the gay ones? Maybe we could dig them up and put them in their own separate little gay area at Arlington. So they don't sully the memories of the real men laying there.


They're all gay. I gay baptize the dead. Which is funny, cuz I'm straight and married but a guy's gotta have hobbies.
 
2012-05-08 11:54:56 PM

crazytrain: The best part is when they had accused rapist and admitted adulterer Bill Clinton lecturing North Carolinians on marriage. LOL dumbass liberals.


As far as I know, Bill Cilinton's on his first marriage, while Rush and Newt are going on their 4th.
 
2012-05-08 11:55:33 PM

seadoo2006: However, the full faith and credit clause requires that in cases of documentation and licenses, that other states recognise the existence in the state where the act was made.


While I get your point in theory, in practice the clause only really applies to court judgements as far as I can tell. I thought driver's licenses were recognized as a part of an interstate compact, not for constitutional reasons? Not to mention, if marriage were a full faith and credit issue, why weren't laws banning interracial marriage in some states overturned for that reason by the Supreme Court? The 1967 decision relied on the 14th Amendment and didn't even make mention of full faith and credit.
 
2012-05-08 11:55:51 PM
I grew up going to a United Methodist church, and was taught during confirmation classes that it's okay to be gay, so the photo in the article seemed very... not Methodist. Until I remembered the schism that damned near occurred over that one issue, if it hasn't since, been like 12 years since I got confirmed and naturally quit waking up early on Sundays.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:11 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Could someone point out the gay ones? Maybe we could dig them up and put them in their own separate little gay area at Arlington. So they don't sully the memories of the real men laying there.


Good idea. I'm thinking pink tombstones with glitter?
 
2012-05-08 11:56:11 PM

dosboot: bdub77: Thank God we protected the Caucasian race.

/asshats
//voted against it

Most blacks are against homosexual marriage. But continue to blame white people, libtard.


North Carolina Anti-Gay Marriage Amendment 1 Reportedly Written To Protect 'Caucasian Race' (pops)

I'm not surprised a dumbass like you missed the story.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:12 PM

narlic: As a straight man with a family in North Carolina, I would like to say that I and the majority of the people living in Wake county (which contains the capital city, Raleigh), did in fact vote against amendment one.

But as soon as you get outside of the island of education and money that surrounds the colleges, NC turns into backwoods bullshiat hickville. If you want to bring the armies south and raze the hillbillies, go for it. But leave Wake county alone.


Uh, listen, if you get an invitation to the Number 6 Dance, take my advice and DO NOT GO. I repeat. DO NOT GO TO THE NUMBER 6 DANCE.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:13 PM

PunchDrunkPanda: As a native of Asheville this makes me very sad, though not altogether surprised. I'm going to go drink a six-pack of craft beer and talk my parents off the ledge.

To any and everyone who voted for this atrocity : F*ck you.


Agreed. The fact that this passed makes me ashamed of this state. Too many churches per square mile, and too many on the Faux News IV drip leads to this ignorant shiat.

On a completely unrelated topic, howdy from hillbilly central! I'm out in Waynesville.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:26 PM

Sabyen91: DrBenway: Sabyen91: jizonny: Sometimes I think the Fark logo needs to be backed by a huge rainbow, because that's all who post here.

I guess tolerance only works when you want someone to accept your views? You shouldn't have to tolerate theirs? Is this not a majority rules country?

Is this irony or stupidity?

Stupid does not do irony.

I disagree, unintentional irony goes hand in hand with stupidity.


True that. I should have said "stupid does not comprehend irony" but that doesn't really address the point. I seem to be pissed off and unfocused tonight.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:27 PM

ImpendingCynic: Biological Ali: ImpendingCynic: How would things have turned out if Loving v. Virginia had come about in the 1950s?

Uh... much better probably? You do remember what else happened in the 1950s, right?

The country wasn't ready for Loving in the 1950s. You think interracial couples walking down the street wouldn't have been victimized by people like Bull Connor?


You do know what Brown v. Board of Education was about, right? There's no way you could seriously be suggesting that the US was ready for Brown but somehow not for Loving, even though the former was a far more dramatic milestone than the latter.

More to the point, you should have noted by now that once the Supreme Court has rendered a verdict, the people who disagree with it tend to get over it pretty quickly, regardless of how much fire they were breathing prior to the ruling.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:50 PM

Robots are Strong: CognaciousThunk: Looks like the folks in NC prefer threesomes...

[wwwcache.wral.com image 512x339]

I just wanted to point out for those not from around these parts, this wasn't just some random church, this was an official polling place.


Not true. Devon United Methodist Church was a polling place today.

Link
 
2012-05-08 11:57:47 PM
Lol cry more queers.
 
2012-05-08 11:58:02 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: TheShavingofOccam123: [farm2.static.flickr.com image 500x357]

Could someone point out the gay ones? Maybe we could dig them up and put them in their own separate little gay area at Arlington. So they don't sully the memories of the real men laying there.

They're all gay. I gay baptize the dead. Which is funny, cuz I'm straight and married but a guy's gotta have hobbies.


I hope you use seltzer in the baptismal fount. The bubbles are fantastic.
 
2012-05-08 11:58:26 PM
The only way to solve this issue, is to take marriage out of the equation. Outlaw states from having anything to do with marriage. States can only recognize civil unions which can be with any combination of sexes above the age of consent and grants certain rights and privileges. Put marriage in the churches which can do whatever they want with it and deny or allow it in a purely religious cerminony that has no bearing on whatever rights are bestowed on couples.
 
2012-05-08 11:58:42 PM

RockChalkH1N1: Yuck... gay people


i242.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-08 11:58:42 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: [farm2.static.flickr.com image 500x357]

Could someone point out the gay ones? Maybe we could dig them up and put them in their own separate little gay area at Arlington. So they don't sully the memories of the real men laying there.


This guy is in Section 60, over towards the Pentagon and near the Columbarium. Nice try on your part, lol

assets.nydailynews.com
 
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