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(Politico)   Michele Bachmann (R-Switzerland) successfully trolls the United States   (politico.com) divider line 216
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2012-05-08 09:18:30 PM
I honestly try to stay out of Politics, but... WHAT THE HELL?!
 
2012-05-08 09:23:40 PM
www.dangerousminds.net

They have same-sex marriage in Switzerland! hooray!
 
2012-05-08 09:23:50 PM
Ummm....wow. They can have her as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-05-08 09:24:54 PM
She's just trying to be with her bank accounts.
 
2012-05-08 09:25:05 PM
Switzer? I BARELY KNEW 'ER!

/absolutely nothin'
 
2012-05-08 09:30:18 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-05-08 09:35:59 PM
Sooo, does she now claim dual-citizenship, or has she defected? o_o'
 
2012-05-08 09:38:12 PM
That ought to cause some good Teabagger head explosions.
 
2012-05-08 09:38:41 PM
Call me when she travels to apply for Martian citizenship.
 
2012-05-08 09:45:06 PM
can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance
 
2012-05-08 09:48:07 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Call me when she travels to apply for Martian citizenship.

I'm pretty sure people born there are automatically citizens.
 
2012-05-08 10:02:32 PM
Sounds socialist.
 
2012-05-08 10:08:05 PM
SilentStrider: I'm pretty sure people born there are automatically citizens.

Aw, RATS.
 
2012-05-08 10:17:06 PM
SilentStrider: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Call me when she travels to apply for Martian citizenship.

I'm pretty sure people born there are automatically citizens.


beautiful -well done.
 
2012-05-08 10:37:45 PM
Can we deport her now?
 
2012-05-08 10:41:37 PM
Don't they have socialized medicine in Switzerland? And legal euthanasia?
 
2012-05-08 10:43:10 PM
WO GEBURTSURKUNDE WO!?
 
2012-05-08 10:48:30 PM
Paris1127: And legal euthanasia?

If we're lucky it's also mandatory.
 
2012-05-08 11:03:44 PM
Please, please elect her

/keep her
//hug her
///pet her
////call her George
//just don't let her come back here
 
2012-05-08 11:04:05 PM
She's all yours, Europe.
 
2012-05-08 11:06:41 PM
Is it even legal for a Congressperson to have joint citizenship?

Seems like a conflict of interest to have someone with divided loyalties in the government.
 
2012-05-08 11:24:07 PM
Maybe she just wants to spread the Good Word to all those heathens over there who no longer believe.
 
2012-05-08 11:25:14 PM
Out of all the places...I admit, my knowledge of foreign countries has slipped since it was force-fed to me during American indoctrination rituals during my formative years, but isn't that one of those places that lets people do what they want?
 
2012-05-08 11:27:52 PM
Does she need any help packing her bags? I'm available whenever.
 
2012-05-08 11:29:21 PM
So she's part Socialist now, right??
 
2012-05-08 11:31:53 PM
Arthur Honegger, a reporter for public broadcaster Schweizer Fernsehen, told POLITICO the Swiss consulate in Chicago has confirmed that the former Republican presidential candidate became a citizen March 19.

The composer?
 
2012-05-08 11:35:27 PM
Dear Switzerland: how much would it take for you to keep her?
 
2012-05-08 11:38:01 PM
If she bails to Europe, does she still owe her campaign debts?
 
2012-05-08 11:44:25 PM
Nadie_AZ: If she bails to Europe, does she still owe her campaign debts?

I say forgive them f she never comes back

/hell, I'd chip in to help pay it off
 
2012-05-09 12:01:03 AM
Hey Michele, you know, your kids now have to serve in the Swiss Army, oh, and I hope you do too!

By the way...

Loss of US Citizenship.
 
2012-05-09 12:01:17 AM
"Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent, so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,"

Mom, you've what's wrong with the country and we want out.
 
2012-05-09 12:06:03 AM
I had the impression that he was more of a Greek.
 
2012-05-09 12:19:41 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-05-09 12:42:17 AM
Ha ha ha! Switzerland, you neutral bastards! You can have her! She's your problem now!
 
2012-05-09 12:43:24 AM
My family were chased out of Switzerland over 200 years ago.

We held a grudge for a long time. The plot was laid out many years ago. It's taken a lot of patience and careful planning to find just the right person and get her mated to just the right, uh, man. Thousands have devoted time and money to the plot...always fearing someone would leak the plan and the Swiss Army ninjas would be unleashed on us.

But we did it. The long game has been played. Hah!

Take that Switzerland.

www.4tnz.com

Revenge is always served cold in Switzerland.
 
2012-05-09 12:48:35 AM
Someone get Sanka to tell her the right foot is not the Swiss foot.
 
2012-05-09 01:41:19 AM
maxcdn.nexternal.com
 
2012-05-09 01:43:46 AM
Well, people hear cuckoo clock sounds whenever she speaks, anyway. Only difference is that when she speaks in Switzerland, those sounds may be coming from an actual cuckoo clock.
 
2012-05-09 01:44:18 AM
She needs her security clearance revoked. Stat.

Also, when in the entire history of the United States of America has anyone who was even for a brief moment considered a front runner for their party's nomination for president promptly gone and gotten themselves dual citizenship with a foreign state? It seems pretty disloyal.
 
2012-05-09 01:44:55 AM
Are you sure that the USA isn't the one trolling Switzerland?

\Sorry guys
\\Better you than us.
 
2012-05-09 01:51:09 AM
If the US went to war with Switzerland, whose side would she be on?

Us?

Or them?
 
2012-05-09 01:51:23 AM
Please, take her.
 
2012-05-09 01:56:23 AM
FTFA:
"It's tough to find a place not to like in Switzerland," said Bachmann. "But here I am!"

/I really wanted her to say that.
 
2012-05-09 02:00:21 AM
She'll now have to change her favorite font from Comic Sans to Helvetica. Does she realize this?
 
2012-05-09 02:01:30 AM
Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.
 
2012-05-09 02:02:04 AM
If some nationally known democrat had done this, this would be the top story in the right wing blogodome and this thread would already be 500 comments long.
 
2012-05-09 02:03:19 AM
What makes a person turn neutral?
 
2012-05-09 02:06:10 AM
What? She can get out of here, but I can't? I want to be an escaping rat too! Damn my marrying a multi-generational American. Damn other countries that have restrictive immigration policies. *shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-05-09 02:08:26 AM
rynthetyn: She needs her security clearance revoked. Stat.

Also, when in the entire history of the United States of America has anyone who was even for a brief moment considered a front runner for their party's nomination for president promptly gone and gotten themselves dual citizenship with a foreign state? It seems pretty disloyal.


I agree. Not only that but she seems to like the socialism of Switzerland and openly admits it. Frankly she needs to be removed from Congress simply due to her conflict of interest in national matters.
 
2012-05-09 02:08:45 AM
WHAT THE HELL?
 
2012-05-09 02:10:45 AM
Sorry. I've had a moment to absorb this.

WHAT THE HELL?
 
2012-05-09 02:11:08 AM
America has so much crazy we're exporting it.
 
2012-05-09 02:11:21 AM
No, seriously.

WHAT THE HELL?
 
2012-05-09 02:11:41 AM
propasaurus: What makes a person turn neutral?

In Bachmann's case, a strong base with a pH of at least 13.
 
2012-05-09 02:14:33 AM
She was running for President. Of THIS country. While she and her husband were getting citizenship... of ANOTHER.

WHAT. THE. HELL?
 
2012-05-09 02:14:52 AM
She needs her clearance yanked which would mean she's off the intel committee.
 
2012-05-09 02:16:11 AM
Marcus Bachmann, the congresswoman's husband since 1978, reportedly was eligible for Swiss citizenship due to his parents' nationality - but only registered it with the Swiss government Feb. 15. Once the process was finalized on March 19, Michele automatically became a citizen as well, according to Honegger.

I am getting some serious WTF vibes here. Does she know something that means being able to flea to an impenetrable little country at the drop of a nuke will protect her and her children?
 
2012-05-09 02:16:27 AM
I'm sure it's all about the money. Her husband's ministry needs a better way to hide its income.

Voila! Swiss bank accounts!
 
2012-05-09 02:18:43 AM
For those calling for her security clearance to be revoked, its been a long time, but I believe thats a cause for revocation.

But for those saying "hahahah teabaggers", you obviously don't know how these people think. They will say her doing this PROVES just how bad the united states is!

And finally for those asking the swiss to take her...I can only think...Please take her and keep her. But inside I know...thats not very kind of me.
 
2012-05-09 02:18:54 AM
There are four offical languages in Switzerland...does that make her a criminal since she doesn't speak any of them?
Link
 
2012-05-09 02:19:53 AM
what in the blue fark
 
2012-05-09 02:20:21 AM
Sorry folks, because she was elected to office she gets Top Secret clearance automatically, how else could Alcee Hastings even have a chance to get on the Intelligance comittee after he got bounced as a Federal Judge.
 
2012-05-09 02:21:29 AM
Disgruntled Dave: Sorry folks, because she was elected to office she gets Top Secret clearance automatically, how else could Alcee Hastings even have a chance to get on the Intelligance comittee after he got bounced as a Federal Judge.

Yeah, and why doesn't this apple taste like an orange?!
 
2012-05-09 02:23:53 AM
Can you be a congress person and have dual citizenship? Before someone answers that, remember that a lot of Mexicans legally in America possess dual citizenship. So be careful because you might unite latinos with tea baggers
 
2012-05-09 02:25:55 AM
Eh, I don't see the big deal. I hope to have dual citizenship with Trinidad someday, through marriage, just so my blond-haired blue-eyed audibly-from-America ass can tell strangers that I am a citizen of Trinidad and Tobago, doesn't mean I want to live there.
 
2012-05-09 02:26:09 AM
She doesn't get the nomination so she leaves for Europe? Good riddance.
 
2012-05-09 02:32:12 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: Can you be a congress person and have dual citizenship? Before someone answers that, remember that a lot of Mexicans legally in America possess dual citizenship. So be careful because you might unite latinos with tea baggers

Yes. If she loses her citizenship, however, she would be booted out. At this point, she can do any number of things to lose it, but from what I read in the article, she hasn't yet.

What I wonder is if she is require to serve her conscription requirements? While serving in a foreign military isn't enough, becoming an officer is, and swearing any kind of oath of allegiance is as well, or taking any kind of Swiss government job.
 
2012-05-09 02:36:27 AM
I'm okay with exporting crazy. In fact, I'd suggest a free trade pact. For every Bachmann, we get a:

i90.photobucket.com

Now, let's start shopping Palin around
 
2012-05-09 02:36:33 AM
Disgruntled Dave: because she was elected to office she gets Top Secret clearance automatically,

Wrong.
 
2012-05-09 02:40:15 AM
Aar1012: WO GEBRTSRKNDE W!?

FTFY
 
2012-05-09 02:45:49 AM
Swiss Miss?

Instant KooKoo?

This story warms me up inside.

/Thread needs more pics of the Neutrals from Futurama.
 
2012-05-09 02:49:33 AM
WhyteRaven74: She needs her clearance yanked which would mean she's off the intel committee.

Not really... I am quite confident we have had loads of elected officials with dual citizenship. You can start with just Israel.

Oh, and Link
 
2012-05-09 02:49:44 AM
Well played IMO, Switzerland is a pretty good place to fall back too.
 
2012-05-09 03:01:08 AM
rynthetyn: She needs her security clearance revoked. Stat.

Also, when in the entire history of the United States of America has anyone who was even for a brief moment considered a front runner for their party's nomination for president promptly gone and gotten themselves dual citizenship with a foreign state? It seems pretty disloyal.


Her status as a Member of Congress outweighs her dual citizenship as it pertains to security clearances.

Also, as far as I can tell (and it's wiki, so take it with a grain of salt) both Spiro Agnew and Michael Dukakis would have been dual US-Greek citizens, under Greek law.
 
2012-05-09 03:06:40 AM
Forty-Two:
Arthur Honegger, a reporter for public broadcaster Schweizer Fernsehen, told POLITICO the Swiss consulate in Chicago has confirmed that the former Republican presidential candidate became a citizen March 19.

The composer?

No, the decomposer...

He's my man Jackson -- he's on the Swiss Twenty Franc Bill
 
2012-05-09 03:11:44 AM
whither_apophis:
Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

Well, with Franken, it would probably be Cuba...
 
2012-05-09 03:12:40 AM
Well, according to Birthers, this makes her ineligible to be President.
 
2012-05-09 03:16:37 AM
GAT_00: That ought to cause some good Teabagger head explosions.

naah. it's leftards that asplode. Switzerland? and she votes for war?? Wars of choice!!??! *plop* as their heads cave in.
 
2012-05-09 03:19:56 AM
haemaker: What I wonder is if she is require to serve her conscription requirements? While serving in a foreign military isn't enough, becoming an officer is, and swearing any kind of oath of allegiance is as well, or taking any kind of Swiss government job.

Not exactly. It is possible to lose US citizenship if one does those things with the intention to relinquish US citizenship. The State Department explicitly states:
The Department has a uniform administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S. citizens intend to retain United States citizenship when they obtain naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to a declaration of allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities with the United States, or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government.
Emphasis mine.

One could lose US citizenship if one takes a "policy level position in a foreign state" -- if one works at the Swiss DMV or as the Zurich city dog-catcher, one is not at risk of losing one's US citizenship but it may be a possibility if they take a job as a Swiss legislator.

Personally, I have no problem with people acquiring dual citizenship, even US government officials. It certainly makes travel easier. While Switzerland isn't part of the EU, they are part of the Schengen Agreement and so Swiss citizens can travel and live freely throughout Europe. As an American living in Switzerland for graduate school and generally annoyed with the amount of fees and paperwork needed for me to live and study here, I'm somewhat envious.

In a few years when I (hopefully) finish the PhD track I'd like to move back to North America to be closer to family and friends. My wife and I are considering Canada, as they have good research opportunities, reasonable cost of living (in most areas), and seem to have their heads less up their ass than the US.
 
2012-05-09 03:20:19 AM
Bachmann's office confirmed that the congresswoman had received Swiss citizenship, and attributed the decision to her children.

Ahh so becoming a citzen of another country just to get benefits is ok if you are a REPUBLICAN who does it. Everyone else are "freeloaders" and "leeches".
 
2012-05-09 03:20:22 AM
i91.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-09 03:20:33 AM
Endrick: "Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent, so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,"

Mom, you've what's wrong with the country and we want out.


Heh, I was trying to do the same thing. But the Irish laws are annoying such that my Cherokee stepmom has a right to Irish citizenship and I am working my ass off to not get deported from Europe.

IHadMeAVision: Eh, I don't see the big deal. I hope to have dual citizenship with Trinidad someday, through marriage, just so my blond-haired blue-eyed audibly-from-America ass can tell strangers that I am a citizen of Trinidad and Tobago, doesn't mean I want to live there.

I think I'm going for Spanish citizenship. Which means that I have to say I'm loyal to the king of Spain. The USA doesn't recognise it, but doesn't anull my US citizenship. Which means I would be a bi-national but not a dual national with each country refusing to acknowledge I am a citizen of the other.
 
2012-05-09 03:22:36 AM
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farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-05-09 03:22:44 AM
Lego_Addict: Well played IMO, Switzerland is a pretty good place to fall back too.

Because "Socialism" is only horrible for attacking Democrats with. Funny for someone who keeps repeating the evils of "European Socialism" she doesn't seem to think it's that bad.

More BS republican hypocrisy.
 
2012-05-09 03:23:33 AM
Still trying to figure out her rationale.

Because, like the cheese Michele Bachmann, is holier than thou?

What?

Just asking questions here.
 
2012-05-09 03:30:00 AM
heypete: One could lose US citizenship if one takes a "policy level position in a foreign state" -- if one works at the Swiss DMV or as the Zurich city dog-catcher, one is not at risk of losing one's US citizenship but it may be a possibility if they take a job as a Swiss legislator.

Which would be why I wasn't in danger of losing my US citizenship when I took a teaching position that was on the payroll of the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
 
2012-05-09 03:32:38 AM
So once the GOP finally succeeds in crashingthe economy, she'll be able to bail like a rat from a sinking ship?
 
2012-05-09 03:43:00 AM
El Pachuco: If the US went to war with Switzerland, whose side would she be on?

Us?

Or them?


She'd be on our side. Her Swiss side would be neutral.
 
2012-05-09 03:57:12 AM
i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?
 
2012-05-09 04:00:44 AM
Great job, Teabaggers. You figured out a way to make Switzerland declare war.
 
2012-05-09 04:02:35 AM
propasaurus: What makes a person turn neutral?

i1024.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-09 04:09:15 AM
blogs.reuters.com

Here we see the Swiss people joining hands in an attempt to form a barrier to prevent Michelle Bachmann from entering the country.
 
2012-05-09 04:11:18 AM
Fury Pilot: propasaurus: What makes a person turn neutral?

[LiveFreeOrDon't]


Thank you, was waiting for that.
 
2012-05-09 04:16:06 AM
This makes my day!

What? This doesn't mean they have to take her?

Never mind.
 
2012-05-09 04:21:05 AM
I hope Marcus realizes that he can't marry his boyfriend in Switzerland either. 'Registered partnership' is as far as they'll go. And he has that already.

/At first I thought the link was Oniony, but, no, strait-up Politico. We told you she was crazy.
 
2012-05-09 04:22:14 AM
Anybody who has followed Bachmann's career knows of her disdain for America and is therefore not suprised by this. However, even the most cursory investigation shows Bachmann taking Swiss citizenship is far more sinister then may appear.

Consider: Switzerland is supposedly a neutral country. Yet it has a highly trained, well equipped, military of over 200,000... who's job it is to guard the Pope! Therefore, Bachmann is a puppet of papal global hegemony!! Also, the Pope is know to have been a member of the Nazi Party so it would seem obvious that Bachmann is part of a larger Catholo-Nazi cabal!!

/working for WND must be so easy
 
2012-05-09 04:41:00 AM
My question is: What kind of tax dodges can they pull with duel US/Swiss citizenship?
 
2012-05-09 05:10:43 AM
she will be right at home in the Swiss People's Party

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-09 05:17:27 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Nadie_AZ: If she bails to Europe, does she still owe her campaign debts?

I say forgive them f she never comes back

/hell, I'd chip in to help pay it off


Sounds like a fair trade-off.
 
2012-05-09 05:23:22 AM
dumbobruni: she will be right at home in the Swiss People's Party

Thanks for posting that - those were such blatant images.

My head is still spinning over this. I know people who were born and raised in Switzerland who can't get citizenship there (especially given the role of local councils), but Bachamnn has no problem? Automatic for her and her kids?

/married to Canadian
//absolutely nothing automatic about my status in Canada
 
2012-05-09 05:53:04 AM
How entertaining would it be if the Obama family applied for Kenyan citizenship just after the election? GOPbagger rage explosions would fill the country with the sound of squishy popcorn, and FOX would have to start a whole new 24/7 derp channel. You know, just like the reaction Bachmann is getting.
 
2012-05-09 05:55:35 AM
gadian: What? She can get out of here, but I can't? I want to be an escaping rat too! Damn my marrying a multi-generational American. Damn other countries that have restrictive immigration policies. *shakes tiny fist*

I have dual citizenship -- but the other country is Iran. This rat wont be escaping there.
 
2012-05-09 06:02:38 AM
Because, like the cheese, Michele Bachmann, is holier than thou?

FTFM.

/Commas, how the fark do they work?
 
2012-05-09 06:32:39 AM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Call me when she travels to apply for Martian citizenship.

3.bp.blogspot.com

Would fight that bill tooth and tentacle.

My mom has dual citizenship (US & Ireland), but according to her the US
doesn't really recognize that status, though they don't impede it either, and a
check of the wikipage for US Citizenship squares with her experience.

That means that I am eligable for an Irish passport, but I have yet to get off
my sorry butt and file the papers to get one.
 
2012-05-09 06:32:47 AM
Michele Bachmann: Proud American Patriot.
 
2012-05-09 06:43:21 AM
Wyalt Derp: Michele Bachmann: Proud American Patriot.

This article is clearly a PAP smear.

/they can't all be gems.
 
2012-05-09 06:55:11 AM
media.tumblr.com

NAZI GOLD!
 
2012-05-09 07:00:31 AM
Greywar: For those calling for her security clearance to be revoked, its been a long time, but I believe thats a cause for revocation.

But for those saying "hahahah teabaggers", you obviously don't know how these people think. They will say her doing this PROVES just how bad the united states is!

And finally for those asking the swiss to take her...I can only think...Please take her and keep her. But inside I know...thats not very kind of me.


Who cares if it's not kind of you? It's better for this country not to have a piece of crap like that at the upper echelons of governance. Now if every teabagger would move to some tiny island in the Pacific, perhaps one where they still perform weapons testing, that'd certainly improve the prospects back here in the States.

/Implying I'd like to see teabaggers all get blow'd up was unkind
//I'd much rather they start thinking for a change, but that ain't happening
 
2012-05-09 07:03:21 AM
i always love when mega-patriots become citizens of foreign countries....
 
2012-05-09 07:12:38 AM
Lupine Chemist: I think I'm going for Spanish citizenship. Which means that I have to say I'm loyal to the king of Spain.

Anybody who tells the Strutting Jackass of Caracas to STFU can't be all bad.
 
2012-05-09 07:15:27 AM
My brother's wife has dual citizenship with Brazil, I told her she needs to take advantage of it to get us all World Cup tickets for 2014.
 
2012-05-09 07:22:46 AM
Damn, Switzerland, you used to be cool.
 
2012-05-09 07:37:41 AM
Bachmann's office confirmed that the congresswoman had received Swiss citizenship, and attributed the decision to her children.

So her kids are anchor babies?
 
2012-05-09 07:37:53 AM
She plans on getting some of that Koch money and storing it there. She won't.
 
2012-05-09 07:41:21 AM
Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?

Congratulations. You actually managed to post a comment more ignorant than Michele Bachmann.

Seriously: is there an Internet Law that says that the easier it is to check facts, the less inclined people are to do so?
 
2012-05-09 07:45:31 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months we don't her about a major lawsuit being filed against her or some type of campaign finance charges against her.
 
2012-05-09 07:46:33 AM
MinkeyMan: Anybody who has followed Bachmann's career knows of her disdain for America and is therefore not suprised by this. However, even the most cursory investigation shows Bachmann taking Swiss citizenship is far more sinister then may appear.

Consider: Switzerland is supposedly a neutral country. Yet it has a highly trained, well equipped, military of over 200,000... who's job it is to guard the Pope! Therefore, Bachmann is a puppet of papal global hegemony!! Also, the Pope is know to have been a member of the Nazi Party so it would seem obvious that Bachmann is part of a larger Catholo-Nazi cabal!!

/working for WND must be so easy


dingdingding! nothing like ultimate money/power, huh? i wonder who will get her familys spot in the Denver underground facility.
 
2012-05-09 07:53:57 AM
"Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent..."

Is that what they're calling it these days?
 
2012-05-09 08:00:36 AM
Oh, Michelle, sweetie. The people of Minnesota came from Sweden-not Switzerland. I know, it's an easy mistake for a retard Palin-American.
 
2012-05-09 08:02:00 AM
Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?

My neighbor has two passports, and travels on his Bahamian one when in rough parts of the World.
 
2012-05-09 08:03:41 AM
We've got to look at the silver lining here people. Since Michelle now has dual-citizenship, she's no longer a natural born citizen and nevermore will we have to shudder at the thought of her occupying the presidency.
 
2012-05-09 08:04:58 AM
Dual citizenship is the highest form of patriotic.
 
2012-05-09 08:05:55 AM
Swiss Miss Instant Cuckoo



yodel-lay-eee-hooo
 
2012-05-09 08:07:41 AM
Time to call the IRS. If the idiot does try and enter European politics she will discover a different "ball game" where the media will make Swiss cheese of her.
 
2012-05-09 08:10:53 AM
StopLurkListen: She was running for President. Of THIS country. While she and her husband were getting citizenship... of ANOTHER.

WHAT. THE. HELL?



Um. Yeah. This.
 
2012-05-09 08:13:26 AM
Paris1127: Don't they have socialized medicine in Switzerland? And legal euthanasia?

Also legal prostitution, so her political activities are legal

Also, more sane drug policy, though not full legalization. So she can get treatment for whatever she is hooked on, but could still be prosecuted if she gets too crazy.
 
2012-05-09 08:16:15 AM
keylock71: "Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent..."

Is that what they're calling it these days?


So he is truly a Swiss Miss.
 
2012-05-09 08:22:09 AM
Magorn: can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance

Nope, I know someone with top secret clearance in the Foreign Service who's a dualie with Britain. It might depend on the country though.
 
2012-05-09 08:23:44 AM
Great now she can get to the bottom of why they attacked Pearl Harbor!
 
2012-05-09 08:26:05 AM
wildcardjack: Marcus Bachmann, the congresswoman's husband since 1978, reportedly was eligible for Swiss citizenship due to his parents' nationality - but only registered it with the Swiss government Feb. 15. Once the process was finalized on March 19, Michele automatically became a citizen as well, according to Honegger.

I am getting some serious WTF vibes here. Does she know something that means being able to flea to an impenetrable little country at the drop of a nuke will protect her and her children?


So you're saying she would be a blood sucking parasite there, also?
 
2012-05-09 08:26:18 AM
From teh wiki:

A person married to a Swiss citizen may apply for Swiss citizenship by facilitated naturalisation after living in Switzerland for five years and having been married for at least three years. No language test is required, but one must show the following:
integration into the Swiss way of life;
compliance with the Swiss rule of law;
no danger to Switzerland's internal or external security.
Children from the person's previous relationships (but not same-sex couples) are given citizenship along with the partner.


Okay, that's not Michele did it... *continues*

It is also possible for the spouse of a Swiss citizen to apply for facilitated naturalisation while resident overseas after the following:
six years of marriage to a Swiss citizen; and
close ties to Switzerland.

Spouses acquiring Swiss citizenship by facilitated naturalisation will acquire the citizenship of the community and canton of their Swiss spouse.


Married to Marcus (dual Swiss-American citizen) for longer than 6 years. Check.

Close ties to Switzerland?

How much does that cost*?

Will they take a cheque?

*That's one of those "If you hafta ask" dealies, aint it?
 
2012-05-09 08:26:51 AM
Toots de la Footsjelly: Great now she can get to the bottom of why they attacked Pearl Harbor!

No, that was the Germans.

The Swiss attacked Hershey PA and stole all the chocolate
 
2012-05-09 08:34:56 AM
I wish I got to keep my British citizenship when I joined the air force. I don't wanna use the non-EU citizen line.
 
2012-05-09 08:34:56 AM
Congress critter holding dual citizenship? Fine. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a fair number of others in the same situation.

That it's a blowhard teabagger getting citizenship in the evil-socialist-empire that is "Europe" does, however, make me wonder if she's actually smarter than the infuriatingly ignorant face she shows the world. Or that she operates with a brain that is so heavily compartmentalized that she can justify anything that might conflict with her ass-backwards world view.
 
2012-05-09 08:38:36 AM
Hah, just wait til she sees their tax rate and cost of gas. She is going to shiat herself.
 
2012-05-09 08:42:02 AM
whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

I'll agree with the possible exception of Israeli citizenship.
 
2012-05-09 08:42:38 AM
Now she can go on vacation in Cuba! It is great sunny weather, nice beaches and no almost American tourists
 
2012-05-09 08:47:02 AM
whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

This story doesn't currently appear anywhere on the Fox News website, I guess it doesn't fit the narrative. Someone will come up with a way to spin this later today, then they'll post the story.
 
2012-05-09 08:47:28 AM
I was told the Bachmanns hated socialism.
 
2012-05-09 08:48:24 AM
When she runs again in 2016 this will be spun as her major foreign policy credential.
 
2012-05-09 08:49:52 AM
I'm seriously asking now.

Did she do this for tax evasion purposes? Was this done to show that she's somehow a citizen of the same country she is probably hording all her money?

If so, deport her and revoke her citizenship ASAP please.
 
2012-05-09 08:54:40 AM
It's the lead in for the inevitable 'The US under Obama is so bad I needed to keep my options open for when he (insert random made up republican fear here) I can safely flee the regime."
 
2012-05-09 08:55:05 AM
justtray: I'm seriously asking now.

Did she do this for tax evasion purposes? Was this done to show that she's somehow a citizen of the same country she is probably hording all her money?

If so, deport her and revoke her citizenship ASAP please.


Sounds like she wanted it so her kids could benefit from easier EU travel, free healthcare and discounted education. All the things she opposes for the United States.
 
2012-05-09 09:01:45 AM
So, I wonder what the Swiss, with their free health care, gay marriage, tolerant attitude, lack-of-religious bullshiat and no-nonsense attitude think of this batshiat loon?

They're basically crazy, heavily armed democrats with a strong dash of the real founding fathers, not republican founding fathers.
 
2012-05-09 09:02:40 AM
If this doesn't expose her aw-shucks cornpone Real American schitck as exactly that, a ruse to get the rubes riled up with fistfuls of cash to fill her coffers, then Teabaggers are truly as dumb as they sound.

Disgusting behavior. Do as I say, not as I do. And fark you, I've got mine.
 
2012-05-09 09:06:50 AM
Carth: and no almost American tourists

Canadians?
 
2012-05-09 09:13:39 AM
Bachmann joked that the competition "would be very stiff because they are very good," referring to the parliamentarians behind her.

Hehe, "stiff"

/hehe, "behind"
 
2012-05-09 09:15:19 AM
A woman told me that Swiss citizenship causes mental retardation.
 
2012-05-09 09:16:10 AM
How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?
 
2012-05-09 09:21:05 AM
TheShavingofOccam123: How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?

Congressional security screenings are handled differently than civil servants. To get your congressional clearance revoked you basically need to demonstrate a certain level of untrustworthiness. It is a point of contention within the intelligence community because a lot of leaks seem to start in congress by someone trying to score political points.
 
2012-05-09 09:25:00 AM
Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.
 
2012-05-09 09:30:51 AM
Goddamnit that was my backup country, if the US ever went to total sh*t under the rule of crazy.
 
2012-05-09 09:31:10 AM
Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?

i am a US/UK dual citizen. my younger brother is US/UK/Switzerland (he's 30 and has lived in geneva since he was 4) i think the US allows it with certain countries.
 
2012-05-09 09:31:11 AM
That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!
 
2012-05-09 09:31:51 AM
Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!

which is swedish, not swiss. fyi.
 
2012-05-09 09:32:42 AM
aearra: Time to call the IRS. If the idiot does try and enter European politics she will discover a different "ball game" where the media will make Swiss cheese of her.

She wouldn't have a chance in Swiss politics. The population is too well educated and not superstitious.
 
2012-05-09 09:33:22 AM
Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!

I'm boycotting Qantas!
 
2012-05-09 09:34:48 AM
kg2095: aearra: Time to call the IRS. If the idiot does try and enter European politics she will discover a different "ball game" where the media will make Swiss cheese of her.

She wouldn't have a chance in Swiss politics. The population is too well educated and not superstitious.


this is very true. though there are more than a few cantons that are very anti-immigrant, so she'd love that.
 
2012-05-09 09:36:51 AM
theorellior: Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.

What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.
 
2012-05-09 09:38:01 AM
"My husband is a 100 percent Swiss"

He's all the way Swiss. Flamingly Swiss, if you will.
 
2012-05-09 09:39:25 AM
qorkfiend: What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.

I'm assuming they'll say this is her "escape clause" because America is doomed because we rejected her red-blooded Real American solutions for restoring this country to greatness.
 
2012-05-09 09:42:34 AM
theorellior: Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!

I'm boycotting Qantas!


Great, now I have to drink Freedom-Miss hot chocolate..
 
2012-05-09 09:44:46 AM
Captain Steroid: I honestly try to stay out of Politics, but... WHAT THE HELL?!

My thoughts exactly. err, I mean, THIS!!!
 
2012-05-09 09:46:58 AM
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
Blossom in snow. May you bloom and grow. Bloom and grow.
Best part, Forever.
Sincerely, American Patriot
 
2012-05-09 09:48:51 AM
www.webcooltips.com

I prefer to think about the native Swiss
 
2012-05-09 09:49:18 AM
 
2012-05-09 09:51:03 AM
theorellior: qorkfiend: What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.

I'm assuming they'll say this is her "escape clause" because America is doomed because we rejected her red-blooded Real American solutions for restoring this country to greatness.


I just love the headline. "Michele Bachmann Leaves America For Socialized Medicine, Free Education"
 
2012-05-09 09:58:17 AM
tomWright: Toots de la Footsjelly: Great now she can get to the bottom of why they attacked Pearl Harbor!

No, that was the Germans.

The Swiss attacked Hershey PA and stole all the chocolate


No, they turned it into a dumping ground for all their factory seconds chocolate.
 
2012-05-09 09:59:46 AM
TheShavingofOccam123: How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?

How does someone who whose business partners with the Saudi Royal Family become a two term President. There is no security clearance requirement to become any elected official. You can literally declare your support for terrorism and be elected and if President, have access to the Nations greatest secrets.
 
2012-05-09 10:00:17 AM
"My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY
 
2012-05-09 10:11:21 AM
Welcome their new compatriot:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-09 10:18:06 AM
qorkfiend: theorellior: Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.

What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.



Right winger on Facebook is asking, what's the harm in respecting her husband's heritage?
 
2012-05-09 10:38:29 AM
Endrick: "Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent, so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,"

Mom, you've what's wrong with the country and we want out.


My SO's grandparents are dual Irish and American. If his dad claimed Irish citizenship my SO could too, and it would make working in the EU a hell of a lot easier. For him and me if (iirc) I marry him and we live in Ireland for 3 or 5 years.

That said his dad won't and Mrs Bachmann probably should've thought about this for half a freaking second as far as security clearance goes.
 
2012-05-09 10:41:15 AM
mrshowrules: TheShavingofOccam123: How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?

How does someone who whose business partners with the Saudi Royal Family become a two term President. There is no security clearance requirement to become any elected official. You can literally declare your support for terrorism and be elected and if President, have access to the Nations greatest secrets.


Sigh good to know.

She still should have thought of the PR headache.
 
2012-05-09 10:47:09 AM
Dual citizenship from a US point of view is pretty simple and no problem.

Becoming a Swiss citizen is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Being a dual citizenship from a Swiss perspective is even more difficult. I wonder what the Swiss have to say about this.

As a matter of fact, becoming a citizen in Switzerland is so difficult that they made a movie about it. Link

If you know anything about Swiss bureaucracy, elitism, and xenophobia you would understand why I say: Fark the Swiss, you get what you deserve by admitting Bachmann.
 
2012-05-09 10:51:41 AM
Virtuoso80: My question is: What kind of tax dodges can they pull with duel US/Swiss citizenship?

Switzerland doesn't have the "untouchable" bank secrecy that it used to -- however, as a swiss citizen she does have certain benefits, in particular that it is a lot easier to open a swiss bank account when you're a citizen.

A major benefit of swiss banking -- which I came across when I practiced:

-- generally, if the IRS CID is doing a criminal investigation, and sends a subpoena to your bank for your bank records, you won't get notified.
-- but, if you have a swiss bank account, and the IRS is doing a criminal investigation of you and contacts the bank, the bank will notify you. Which may often be the first hint to the suspect that the IRS is after him.

So there's that.
 
2012-05-09 10:55:15 AM
hinten: Becoming a Swiss citizen is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Being a dual citizenship from a Swiss perspective is even more difficult.

it took my brother ten years and countless tests and interviews. they interview your neighbors. they check your financial status. it's very invasive.
 
2012-05-09 11:01:06 AM
ciderczar: I wish I got to keep my British citizenship when I joined the air force. I don't wanna use the non-EU citizen line.

Did the Air Force make you go to the British Consul and renounce your British citizenship and return with supporting documentation? If not, you're still a British citizen.

Even if you swore an oath to the US and/or the Air Force to renounce all foreign loyalties etc. etc. (as I did when naturalized) you're still dual. The British government's position is that they don't care what you said in front of the officials of some foreign government. Unless you renounce your citizenship in front of a British official, or Britain strips you of it, you're still British.

And by the way, this isn't some British peculiarity: many countries treat citizenship the same way. They don't care what any other country says about its citizens; only they get to say who they claim or renounce as citizens.
 
2012-05-09 11:14:02 AM
FlashHarry: Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?

i am a US/UK dual citizen. my younger brother is US/UK/Switzerland (he's 30 and has lived in geneva since he was 4) i think the US allows it with certain countries.


I don't have any sources, but I think the way dual citizenship works in the USA is this:

The USA government does not prohibit any US citizen from holding any foreign citizenship alongside US citizenship (meaning that if you acquire citizenship in a foreign country, you don't automatically lose your US citizenship, unless you have a bona fide intention to relinquish US citizenship, and declare so before a US consular officer). However, while a dual citizen is physically in the USA, the US government only recognizes the citizenship of the passport you entered on.

Example: Mr. Doe is a dual US/French citizen. He travels abroad and re-enters the USA on his US passport. While Mr. Doe is in the USA, CBP and other government agencies consider him to be a US citizen, and entitled to all of the rights and privileges thereof.

However, if Mr. Doe enters the USA on his French passport, while he is in the USA, he is considered a French citizen ONLY...even though he also has US citizenship, because he entered with a French passport, and therefore as a French citizen, he is considered a French citizen, and subject to all restrictions placed on French citizens (i.e. he must depart the USA after a set period, he cannot work without obtaining a work authorization from DHS, he cannot access public funds and services, etc...), until he departs the USA and re-enters on a US passport.

This is why the State Department and the CBP warn dual citizens to ALWAYS enter the USA on their US passport.
 
2012-05-09 11:14:41 AM
Heh. Wandered over to see.The party's on at Freep

This Rat Party rag wants us to think that Rep Bachmann is some kind of disloyal,scheming foreigner (sound familiar?).She obviously had no choice in the matter but she *can* renounce her Swiss citizenship.And doing so might be wise,politically,knowing the filthbag Rats. Gay State Conservative

I believe every Swiss citizen in the country is still required to keep a long gun in their home.
The Swiss don't mess around
. Semper911

And BTW..she didn't *claim* Swiss citizenship,she came to be automatically recognized as a Swiss citizen through actions of another,an actions over which she had no control.
"Claims" is where Politico shows its true (Rat) stripes.
Gay State Conservative (again)

I love, love, love Michelle. Even named one of my cats after her...... Calusa

Wasn't some half white Harvard graduate, community organizer, former IL State Senator promoting being born in Kenya when running for US Senate?
No story there for Politico however...
Hotlanta Mike

www.oocities.org
 
2012-05-09 11:15:04 AM
Boxcutta: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss"

He's all the way Swiss. Flamingly Swiss, if you will.


Swish, not Swiss.
 
2012-05-09 11:32:59 AM
I love the cognitive dissonance of freepers, especially freepers that can't admit they were wrong for backing this fool.

I'm curious as to how this will wash, personally.
 
2012-05-09 11:40:58 AM
As a dual US/Brazilian I don't have issues with people claiming dual citizenship. In her case she has made so many public political statements that it boggles the mind as to why she would even consider this. In addition to her public statements the Swiss are at the opposite end of the spectrum to many if not most of her public political statements. This smells of a tax dodge to me.
/they can have that crazy coont.
 
2012-05-09 12:12:57 PM
Magorn: can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance

I seem to recall that the U.S. doesn't even recognize the concept of dual citizenship. If that's the case, could we get Homeland Security to pick her up and expell her as a dangerous and illegal resident?
 
2012-05-09 12:23:30 PM
DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY


He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT
 
2012-05-09 12:45:21 PM
FormlessOne: I love the cognitive dissonance of freepers, especially freepers that can't admit they were wrong for backing this fool.

I'm curious as to how this will wash, personally.


It will go right past them just like her call for people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while collecting farm subsidies and her husband's practice doing 80% medicare/medicaid billing. The GOP has little issue with hypocrisy unless the dems are doing it (that last part works in reverse also, dems are not immune from contradicting themselves)
 
2012-05-09 01:05:34 PM
So are the farm subsidies her family receives now considered foreign aid?
 
2012-05-09 01:07:10 PM
Somalia would have been a more appropriate place for her to have gotten citizenship. It jives more with her bootstrappy views.
 
2012-05-09 01:14:14 PM
whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

Schweizer Franken?
 
2012-05-09 01:31:18 PM
BSABSVR: If some nationally known democrat had done this, this would be the top story in the right wing blogodome and this thread would already be 500 comments long.

That's because most Democrats don't show symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.

/Switzerland, feel free to keep her.
//And medicate her.
 
2012-05-09 01:45:38 PM
stanhapsburg: whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

Schweizer Franken?


15 is my limit Schweizer Franken.
 
2012-05-09 01:46:03 PM
Dammit so much. And this place was so nice...
 
2012-05-09 01:51:31 PM
Jurodan: whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

I'll agree with the possible exception of Israeli citizenship.


I thought all Senators already had to have Israeli citizenship.

/Hah! I keed, I keed
 
2012-05-09 01:52:13 PM
Lorelle: So she's part Socialist now, right??

The only time Bachmann could ever have a little socialist in her is when she bangs that Swiss commie husband of hers...which is never.

/someone please submit this post with a funnier punchline
 
2012-05-09 02:01:20 PM
czetie: ciderczar: I wish I got to keep my British citizenship when I joined the air force. I don't wanna use the non-EU citizen line.

Did the Air Force make you go to the British Consul and renounce your British citizenship and return with supporting documentation? If not, you're still a British citizen.

Even if you swore an oath to the US and/or the Air Force to renounce all foreign loyalties etc. etc. (as I did when naturalized) you're still dual. The British government's position is that they don't care what you said in front of the officials of some foreign government. Unless you renounce your citizenship in front of a British official, or Britain strips you of it, you're still British.

And by the way, this isn't some British peculiarity: many countries treat citizenship the same way. They don't care what any other country says about its citizens; only they get to say who they claim or renounce as citizens.


They didn't make me physically go to the consulate and do it, but they did need proof that I ha given up my British citizenship. I'm still a British citizen right now, but only because rhe paperwork hasn't gone through yet. Luckily Blighty's cool about this stuff and I can become British again when I'm done.
 
2012-05-09 02:10:35 PM
So can anyone explain why her kids would want to ask for Swiss citizenship? I'm assuming the fact that she became a Swiss citizen was partially just a technicality as part of her older kids getting the citizenship, but why would her kids want to be considered Swiss?
 
2012-05-09 02:18:09 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY

He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT


Say what you will about the Bachmann's but I for one will not have you insulting raclette!
 
2012-05-09 02:29:38 PM
killershark: So can anyone explain why her kids would want to ask for Swiss citizenship? I'm assuming the fact that she became a Swiss citizen was partially just a technicality as part of her older kids getting the citizenship, but why would her kids want to be considered Swiss?

Unless the country your considering is a shiathole or has required military service that you'll be drafted into as soon as you enter the country,* what's the downside?

Especially in that most countries don't tax you unless you're actually living there.

* CSB time -- a former girlfriend of mine has dual israeli citizenship and got detained by the police at Ben Gurion airport on a connecting flight transfer from NYC to South Africa so that she could complete her military service. Oops. When your 1 week vacation accidentally becomes 2 years in the army, dual citizenship has its drawbacks.
 
2012-05-09 03:32:23 PM
Magorn: can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance

I think that only counts if you're a private, unelected citizen trying to work for the government, not that I'd mind having a legit reason to kick her off of those committees.

Damn goddamn I remember when she was the biggest 'tard around before Palin broke into the news cycle.
 
2012-05-09 03:34:46 PM
chachi88: TheShavingofOccam123: DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY

He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT

Say what you will about the Bachmann's but I for one will not have you insulting raclette!


I am diminished.
 
2012-05-09 03:38:01 PM
ciderczar: They didn't make me physically go to the consulate and do it, but they did need proof that I ha given up my British citizenship.

Interesting, what kind of proof? I looked into this when I was getting naturalized (for the opposite reason -- I didn't want to inadvertently give up my British citizenship if I didn't have to, not least for the sake of my children's right to live and work in the EU), and I recall that at least at that time, the only way to do it was to personally visit and make the statement. Do they let you do it in writing now, say with a notarized statement?

/just curious, of no practical value to me
 
2012-05-09 03:39:28 PM
Swiss citizenship suits her, as all her policies and thought processes are full of holes
 
2012-05-09 04:22:47 PM
Tax Boy: killershark: So can anyone explain why her kids would want to ask for Swiss citizenship? I'm assuming the fact that she became a Swiss citizen was partially just a technicality as part of her older kids getting the citizenship, but why would her kids want to be considered Swiss?

Unless the country your considering is a shiathole or has required military service that you'll be drafted into as soon as you enter the country,* what's the downside?

Especially in that most countries don't tax you unless you're actually living there.

* CSB time -- a former girlfriend of mine has dual israeli citizenship and got detained by the police at Ben Gurion airport on a connecting flight transfer from NYC to South Africa so that she could complete her military service. Oops. When your 1 week vacation accidentally becomes 2 years in the army, dual citizenship has its drawbacks.


I knew somebody who had dual US and Italian citizenship who turned 18 while spending the summer in Italy and wound up drafted. He apparently had to go through all sorts of legal wranglings to be allowed to go back to the US, I think the only reason Italy agreed to let him out of the country without doing military service was because he was still in high school so they let him go back to the US to do his senior year. I think after that he had to stay out of Italy until he reached a certain age.
 
2012-05-09 04:30:04 PM
i hope she has to pay swiss taxes now. how sweet would that be?
 
2012-05-09 05:30:17 PM
czetie: ciderczar: They didn't make me physically go to the consulate and do it, but they did need proof that I ha given up my British citizenship.

Interesting, what kind of proof? I looked into this when I was getting naturalized (for the opposite reason -- I didn't want to inadvertently give up my British citizenship if I didn't have to, not least for the sake of my children's right to live and work in the EU), and I recall that at least at that time, the only way to do it was to personally visit and make the statement. Do they let you do it in writing now, say with a notarized statement?

/just curious, of no practical value to me


I had to send in my passport with forms and payment to the British embassy in Washington, who are going to do all the paperwork and fax proof of my non-Britishness to my recruiter at the air base. It can all be done by mail now. Oddly enough, my dad's an American diplomat but he got to keep his dual citizenship.
 
2012-05-09 05:40:23 PM
jaylectricity: Out of all the places...I admit, my knowledge of foreign countries has slipped since it was force-fed to me during American indoctrination rituals during my formative years, but isn't that one of those places that lets people do what they want?

Anything except build a minaret.
 
2012-05-09 08:11:57 PM
FlashHarry: hinten: Becoming a Swiss citizen is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Being a dual citizenship from a Swiss perspective is even more difficult.

it took my brother ten years and countless tests and interviews. they interview your neighbors. they check your financial status. it's very invasive.


The process is completely different if you deposit a large sum (I think it's $50 million) in a Swiss bank or banks. They basically wave everything and automatically grant you citizenship. It's something that many Arabs with oil money do.

/not that that has any bearing here; just wanted to point it out.
 
2012-05-10 08:08:05 AM
Aarontology: Is it even legal for a Congressperson to have joint citizenship?

I thought all the "joint" stuff was in the RON PAUL platform.
 
2012-05-10 08:15:03 AM
FlashHarry: my younger brother is US/UK/Switzerland

So you're saying he's CIA?
 
2012-05-11 08:28:51 AM
theorellior:
Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.

Gotta love dumbass libtards spewing their voluminous hate, all at a target that isn't there. The process of citizenship was automatic, and Michelle Bachmann has requested that the Swiss withdraw her Swiss citizenship. You know it's true, since it's IN A FARK THREAD.
 
2012-05-11 06:12:26 PM
GeneralJim: Gotta love dumbass libtards spewing their voluminous hate

Why should I love them when I have you?
 
2012-05-11 06:38:32 PM
thamike:
GeneralJim: Gotta love dumbass libtards spewing their voluminous hate

Why should I love them when I have you?

Uh, the restraining order?
 
2012-05-11 06:43:25 PM
GeneralJim: thamike: GeneralJim: Gotta love dumbass libtards spewing their voluminous hate

Why should I love them when I have you?
Uh, the restraining order?


I thought that was a come-on.
 
2012-05-11 06:48:21 PM
More_Like_A_Stain:
Boxcutta: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss"

He's all the way Swiss. Flamingly Swiss, if you will.

Swish, not Swiss.

So, what are the rules here? Being gay is a horrible thing, suitable to be made fun of, as long as the gay person is somehow connected to someone Republican? Really? Are there some other rules? I ask, because that's the only one *I* see, and if you are as homophobic (and as mean-spiritedly homophobic) as this suggests, and also use homophobia as a weapon against Republicans, I'll have to replace my hypocrisy meter. Oh, yeah, and you're also more like a shiatstain in human form.

So, do you have anything ELSE?
 
2012-05-11 07:00:22 PM
GeneralJim: So, do you have anything ELSE?

I do. I want a body massage from you. Then we can talk about a few things. We can haggle about prices while you dab the Vimto from your lips and get all fussy. We're out of time, but there's always more time, isn't there? Let me show you my pajamas.
 
2012-05-11 07:17:25 PM
thamike:
I do. I want a body massage from you. Then we can talk about a few things. We can haggle about prices while you dab the Vimto from your lips and get all fussy. We're out of time, but there's always more time, isn't there? Let me show you my pajamas.

Geez, that's lame. Is that the patter you normally use picking up boys? If so, you must spend a LOT of time alone.
 
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