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(Politico)   Michele Bachmann (R-Switzerland) successfully trolls the United States   (politico.com) divider line 216
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2012-05-09 09:25:00 AM  
Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.
 
2012-05-09 09:30:51 AM  
Goddamnit that was my backup country, if the US ever went to total sh*t under the rule of crazy.
 
2012-05-09 09:31:10 AM  

Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?


i am a US/UK dual citizen. my younger brother is US/UK/Switzerland (he's 30 and has lived in geneva since he was 4) i think the US allows it with certain countries.
 
2012-05-09 09:31:11 AM  
That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!
 
2012-05-09 09:31:51 AM  

Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!


which is swedish, not swiss. fyi.
 
2012-05-09 09:32:42 AM  

aearra: Time to call the IRS. If the idiot does try and enter European politics she will discover a different "ball game" where the media will make Swiss cheese of her.


She wouldn't have a chance in Swiss politics. The population is too well educated and not superstitious.
 
2012-05-09 09:33:22 AM  

Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!


I'm boycotting Qantas!
 
2012-05-09 09:34:48 AM  

kg2095: aearra: Time to call the IRS. If the idiot does try and enter European politics she will discover a different "ball game" where the media will make Swiss cheese of her.

She wouldn't have a chance in Swiss politics. The population is too well educated and not superstitious.


this is very true. though there are more than a few cantons that are very anti-immigrant, so she'd love that.
 
2012-05-09 09:36:51 AM  

theorellior: Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.


What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.
 
2012-05-09 09:38:01 AM  
"My husband is a 100 percent Swiss"

He's all the way Swiss. Flamingly Swiss, if you will.
 
2012-05-09 09:39:25 AM  

qorkfiend: What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.


I'm assuming they'll say this is her "escape clause" because America is doomed because we rejected her red-blooded Real American solutions for restoring this country to greatness.
 
2012-05-09 09:42:34 AM  

theorellior: Bloody William: That's it, I'm boycotting Ikea!

I'm boycotting Qantas!


Great, now I have to drink Freedom-Miss hot chocolate..
 
2012-05-09 09:44:46 AM  

Captain Steroid: I honestly try to stay out of Politics, but... WHAT THE HELL?!


My thoughts exactly. err, I mean, THIS!!!
 
2012-05-09 09:46:58 AM  
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
Blossom in snow. May you bloom and grow. Bloom and grow.
Best part, Forever.
Sincerely, American Patriot
 
2012-05-09 09:48:51 AM  
www.webcooltips.com

I prefer to think about the native Swiss
 
2012-05-09 09:49:18 AM  
 
2012-05-09 09:51:03 AM  

theorellior: qorkfiend: What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.

I'm assuming they'll say this is her "escape clause" because America is doomed because we rejected her red-blooded Real American solutions for restoring this country to greatness.


I just love the headline. "Michele Bachmann Leaves America For Socialized Medicine, Free Education"
 
2012-05-09 09:58:17 AM  

tomWright: Toots de la Footsjelly: Great now she can get to the bottom of why they attacked Pearl Harbor!

No, that was the Germans.

The Swiss attacked Hershey PA and stole all the chocolate


No, they turned it into a dumping ground for all their factory seconds chocolate.
 
2012-05-09 09:59:46 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?


How does someone who whose business partners with the Saudi Royal Family become a two term President. There is no security clearance requirement to become any elected official. You can literally declare your support for terrorism and be elected and if President, have access to the Nations greatest secrets.
 
2012-05-09 10:00:17 AM  
"My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY
 
2012-05-09 10:11:21 AM  
Welcome their new compatriot:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-09 10:18:06 AM  

qorkfiend: theorellior: Any dumbass Teatards reading this far: how does it feel to be used so thoroughly and completely? I hope you feel just a twinge of shame knowing you were played like a cheap calliope at a State Fair.

What are the right-wing sites saying about this today, I wonder.



Right winger on Facebook is asking, what's the harm in respecting her husband's heritage?
 
2012-05-09 10:38:29 AM  

Endrick: "Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent, so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,"

Mom, you've what's wrong with the country and we want out.


My SO's grandparents are dual Irish and American. If his dad claimed Irish citizenship my SO could too, and it would make working in the EU a hell of a lot easier. For him and me if (iirc) I marry him and we live in Ireland for 3 or 5 years.

That said his dad won't and Mrs Bachmann probably should've thought about this for half a freaking second as far as security clearance goes.
 
2012-05-09 10:41:15 AM  

mrshowrules: TheShavingofOccam123: How can someone with a dual citizenship have a security clearance in the US Congress?

How does someone who whose business partners with the Saudi Royal Family become a two term President. There is no security clearance requirement to become any elected official. You can literally declare your support for terrorism and be elected and if President, have access to the Nations greatest secrets.


Sigh good to know.

She still should have thought of the PR headache.
 
2012-05-09 10:47:09 AM  
Dual citizenship from a US point of view is pretty simple and no problem.

Becoming a Swiss citizen is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Being a dual citizenship from a Swiss perspective is even more difficult. I wonder what the Swiss have to say about this.

As a matter of fact, becoming a citizen in Switzerland is so difficult that they made a movie about it. Link

If you know anything about Swiss bureaucracy, elitism, and xenophobia you would understand why I say: Fark the Swiss, you get what you deserve by admitting Bachmann.
 
2012-05-09 10:51:41 AM  

Virtuoso80: My question is: What kind of tax dodges can they pull with duel US/Swiss citizenship?


Switzerland doesn't have the "untouchable" bank secrecy that it used to -- however, as a swiss citizen she does have certain benefits, in particular that it is a lot easier to open a swiss bank account when you're a citizen.

A major benefit of swiss banking -- which I came across when I practiced:

-- generally, if the IRS CID is doing a criminal investigation, and sends a subpoena to your bank for your bank records, you won't get notified.
-- but, if you have a swiss bank account, and the IRS is doing a criminal investigation of you and contacts the bank, the bank will notify you. Which may often be the first hint to the suspect that the IRS is after him.

So there's that.
 
2012-05-09 10:55:15 AM  

hinten: Becoming a Swiss citizen is incredibly, incredibly difficult. Being a dual citizenship from a Swiss perspective is even more difficult.


it took my brother ten years and countless tests and interviews. they interview your neighbors. they check your financial status. it's very invasive.
 
2012-05-09 11:01:06 AM  

ciderczar: I wish I got to keep my British citizenship when I joined the air force. I don't wanna use the non-EU citizen line.


Did the Air Force make you go to the British Consul and renounce your British citizenship and return with supporting documentation? If not, you're still a British citizen.

Even if you swore an oath to the US and/or the Air Force to renounce all foreign loyalties etc. etc. (as I did when naturalized) you're still dual. The British government's position is that they don't care what you said in front of the officials of some foreign government. Unless you renounce your citizenship in front of a British official, or Britain strips you of it, you're still British.

And by the way, this isn't some British peculiarity: many countries treat citizenship the same way. They don't care what any other country says about its citizens; only they get to say who they claim or renounce as citizens.
 
2012-05-09 11:14:02 AM  

FlashHarry: Virulency: i thought the US doesn't recognize a dual citizenship?

i am a US/UK dual citizen. my younger brother is US/UK/Switzerland (he's 30 and has lived in geneva since he was 4) i think the US allows it with certain countries.


I don't have any sources, but I think the way dual citizenship works in the USA is this:

The USA government does not prohibit any US citizen from holding any foreign citizenship alongside US citizenship (meaning that if you acquire citizenship in a foreign country, you don't automatically lose your US citizenship, unless you have a bona fide intention to relinquish US citizenship, and declare so before a US consular officer). However, while a dual citizen is physically in the USA, the US government only recognizes the citizenship of the passport you entered on.

Example: Mr. Doe is a dual US/French citizen. He travels abroad and re-enters the USA on his US passport. While Mr. Doe is in the USA, CBP and other government agencies consider him to be a US citizen, and entitled to all of the rights and privileges thereof.

However, if Mr. Doe enters the USA on his French passport, while he is in the USA, he is considered a French citizen ONLY...even though he also has US citizenship, because he entered with a French passport, and therefore as a French citizen, he is considered a French citizen, and subject to all restrictions placed on French citizens (i.e. he must depart the USA after a set period, he cannot work without obtaining a work authorization from DHS, he cannot access public funds and services, etc...), until he departs the USA and re-enters on a US passport.

This is why the State Department and the CBP warn dual citizens to ALWAYS enter the USA on their US passport.
 
2012-05-09 11:14:41 AM  
Heh. Wandered over to see.The party's on at Freep

This Rat Party rag wants us to think that Rep Bachmann is some kind of disloyal,scheming foreigner (sound familiar?).She obviously had no choice in the matter but she *can* renounce her Swiss citizenship.And doing so might be wise,politically,knowing the filthbag Rats. Gay State Conservative

I believe every Swiss citizen in the country is still required to keep a long gun in their home.
The Swiss don't mess around
. Semper911

And BTW..she didn't *claim* Swiss citizenship,she came to be automatically recognized as a Swiss citizen through actions of another,an actions over which she had no control.
"Claims" is where Politico shows its true (Rat) stripes.
Gay State Conservative (again)

I love, love, love Michelle. Even named one of my cats after her...... Calusa

Wasn't some half white Harvard graduate, community organizer, former IL State Senator promoting being born in Kenya when running for US Senate?
No story there for Politico however...
Hotlanta Mike

www.oocities.org
 
2012-05-09 11:15:04 AM  

Boxcutta: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss"

He's all the way Swiss. Flamingly Swiss, if you will.


Swish, not Swiss.
 
2012-05-09 11:32:59 AM  
I love the cognitive dissonance of freepers, especially freepers that can't admit they were wrong for backing this fool.

I'm curious as to how this will wash, personally.
 
2012-05-09 11:40:58 AM  
As a dual US/Brazilian I don't have issues with people claiming dual citizenship. In her case she has made so many public political statements that it boggles the mind as to why she would even consider this. In addition to her public statements the Swiss are at the opposite end of the spectrum to many if not most of her public political statements. This smells of a tax dodge to me.
/they can have that crazy coont.
 
2012-05-09 12:12:57 PM  

Magorn: can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance


I seem to recall that the U.S. doesn't even recognize the concept of dual citizenship. If that's the case, could we get Homeland Security to pick her up and expell her as a dangerous and illegal resident?
 
2012-05-09 12:23:30 PM  

DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY


He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT
 
2012-05-09 12:45:21 PM  

FormlessOne: I love the cognitive dissonance of freepers, especially freepers that can't admit they were wrong for backing this fool.

I'm curious as to how this will wash, personally.


It will go right past them just like her call for people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while collecting farm subsidies and her husband's practice doing 80% medicare/medicaid billing. The GOP has little issue with hypocrisy unless the dems are doing it (that last part works in reverse also, dems are not immune from contradicting themselves)
 
2012-05-09 01:05:34 PM  
So are the farm subsidies her family receives now considered foreign aid?
 
2012-05-09 01:07:10 PM  
Somalia would have been a more appropriate place for her to have gotten citizenship. It jives more with her bootstrappy views.
 
2012-05-09 01:14:14 PM  

whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.


Schweizer Franken?
 
2012-05-09 01:31:18 PM  

BSABSVR: If some nationally known democrat had done this, this would be the top story in the right wing blogodome and this thread would already be 500 comments long.


That's because most Democrats don't show symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.

/Switzerland, feel free to keep her.
//And medicate her.
 
2012-05-09 01:45:38 PM  

stanhapsburg: whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

Schweizer Franken?


15 is my limit Schweizer Franken.
 
2012-05-09 01:46:03 PM  
Dammit so much. And this place was so nice...
 
2012-05-09 01:51:31 PM  

Jurodan: whither_apophis: Just imagine what the GOP would do if Franken got dual citizenship somewhere. Faux News anchors would be actually foaming at the mouth.

I'll agree with the possible exception of Israeli citizenship.


I thought all Senators already had to have Israeli citizenship.

/Hah! I keed, I keed
 
2012-05-09 01:52:13 PM  

Lorelle: So she's part Socialist now, right??


The only time Bachmann could ever have a little socialist in her is when she bangs that Swiss commie husband of hers...which is never.

/someone please submit this post with a funnier punchline
 
2012-05-09 02:01:20 PM  

czetie: ciderczar: I wish I got to keep my British citizenship when I joined the air force. I don't wanna use the non-EU citizen line.

Did the Air Force make you go to the British Consul and renounce your British citizenship and return with supporting documentation? If not, you're still a British citizen.

Even if you swore an oath to the US and/or the Air Force to renounce all foreign loyalties etc. etc. (as I did when naturalized) you're still dual. The British government's position is that they don't care what you said in front of the officials of some foreign government. Unless you renounce your citizenship in front of a British official, or Britain strips you of it, you're still British.

And by the way, this isn't some British peculiarity: many countries treat citizenship the same way. They don't care what any other country says about its citizens; only they get to say who they claim or renounce as citizens.


They didn't make me physically go to the consulate and do it, but they did need proof that I ha given up my British citizenship. I'm still a British citizen right now, but only because rhe paperwork hasn't gone through yet. Luckily Blighty's cool about this stuff and I can become British again when I'm done.
 
2012-05-09 02:10:35 PM  
So can anyone explain why her kids would want to ask for Swiss citizenship? I'm assuming the fact that she became a Swiss citizen was partially just a technicality as part of her older kids getting the citizenship, but why would her kids want to be considered Swiss?
 
2012-05-09 02:18:09 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY

He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT


Say what you will about the Bachmann's but I for one will not have you insulting raclette!
 
2012-05-09 02:29:38 PM  

killershark: So can anyone explain why her kids would want to ask for Swiss citizenship? I'm assuming the fact that she became a Swiss citizen was partially just a technicality as part of her older kids getting the citizenship, but why would her kids want to be considered Swiss?


Unless the country your considering is a shiathole or has required military service that you'll be drafted into as soon as you enter the country,* what's the downside?

Especially in that most countries don't tax you unless you're actually living there.

* CSB time -- a former girlfriend of mine has dual israeli citizenship and got detained by the police at Ben Gurion airport on a connecting flight transfer from NYC to South Africa so that she could complete her military service. Oops. When your 1 week vacation accidentally becomes 2 years in the army, dual citizenship has its drawbacks.
 
2012-05-09 03:32:23 PM  

Magorn: can we kick her off the Intel committee now? IIRC dual citizenship makes you ineligible for a security clearance


I think that only counts if you're a private, unelected citizen trying to work for the government, not that I'd mind having a legit reason to kick her off of those committees.

Damn goddamn I remember when she was the biggest 'tard around before Palin broke into the news cycle.
 
2012-05-09 03:34:46 PM  

chachi88: TheShavingofOccam123: DarwiOdrade: "My husband is a 100 percent Swiss,"

I believe the word you're looking for is GAY

He sounds gayer than a pink bedazzled raclette grill smothered with Astro-Glide and piled high with man meat.

/NTTAWWT

Say what you will about the Bachmann's but I for one will not have you insulting raclette!


I am diminished.
 
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