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2012-05-08 08:54:56 PM

The_Sponge: What is Obama's stance on gay marriage again?


As a truly small federal government president, he has kept this issue at the state level. Being fully supportive of state's legalizing efforts while he has been largely unopposed to banning propositions. Although making his personal support clear he thus far has taken a very libertarian approach to the issue to the dismay of some of his left leaning base.

/oops wrong thread. I don't know why we were talking about Obama's stance on that issue. I meant Mitt Romney is a glad-handing know-nothing who keeps the RNC guessing as to why they support him.
 
2012-05-08 08:56:56 PM

gaspode: Mitt Romney is the Electric Monk.


That would explain quite a bit.

/Watching Dirk Gently right now
//It's quite good.
 
2012-05-08 09:05:33 PM

Chimperror2: It's evolving. Like Obama's hatred of gay marriage.


shut up, tu quoque!


seriously, though - obama vacillates on ONE issue. romney vacillates on ALL issues.
 
2012-05-08 09:09:23 PM

NateGrey: Chimperror2: T-Servo:
[thinkprogress.org image 350x287]
And the answer is.... for now

He stole Obama's laptop and teleprompter.

lol u mad?

Please defend Rmoney more, he is going to win!

/Vote Republican


And the funny thing is, that meme came from his own advisor, so I figure it's fair game.
 
2012-05-08 09:11:42 PM

BSABSVR: So has anyone made a facile argument about gay marriage yet?


i1046.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-08 09:15:31 PM
Subby: After only campaigning for five years, you can't expect Mitt Romney to have a position on a major issue like immigration yet

THIS!

This guy has been running for 5 years. It's pitiful.
 
2012-05-08 09:18:43 PM

FlashHarry: seriously, though - obama vacillates on ONE issue. romney vacillates on ALL issues.


No, there's been no vacillation: he said he supported domestic partnerships but not gay marriage in 2008. He stuck to that until about a year ago, when he said his view of gay marriage is "evolving"; he still supports domestic partnerships.

That's forward progress, not oscillating between two points.
 
2012-05-08 09:19:25 PM
I would assume Romney's position about illegal immigration is that he is in favor of it because as a former businessman he'd be all about having people who are willing to do more work for less money. He'd never say that out loud but I'd bet deep down if he was running a company he would do whatever he could to not have to use e-Verify since it would place an undue burden on business, red tape, freedom, etc.
 
2012-05-08 09:20:01 PM

Seth_The_Wide: I guess his stance is still evolving. Why does that sound so familiar?


His stance doesn't E-volve, it RE-volves. Big difference there.
 
2012-05-08 09:24:31 PM

kc278: BSABSVR: So has anyone made a facile argument about gay marriage yet?

[Inigo Rotsky.jpg]


Edumacate yourself. Definitions 3 and 4 seem appropriate here.

Also, Romney Feynman diagram make me *snerk* audibly.
 
2012-05-08 09:42:42 PM

Dwight_Yeast: FlashHarry: seriously, though - obama vacillates on ONE issue. romney vacillates on ALL issues.

No, there's been no vacillation: he said he supported domestic partnerships but not gay marriage in 2008. He stuck to that until about a year ago, when he said his view of gay marriage is "evolving"; he still supports domestic partnerships.

That's forward progress, not oscillating between two points.


Well put.
 
2012-05-08 09:43:07 PM

kc278: BSABSVR: So has anyone made a facile argument about gay marriage yet?

[i1046.photobucket.com image 625x625]


pretty sure I know what I'm doing, so feel free to Fark right off.
 
2012-05-08 10:05:51 PM
Romney has a position on immigration. He came out right of Perry on the issue. He wants to see them all deported. I think that was stated in the first or second debate. I don't see how he could change positions so quickly on an important issue like immigration.
 
2012-05-08 10:09:14 PM
So, I'm getting from the right-wing FARKers that the reason for Romney's lack of position on immigration is because of Obama's position on gay marriage.
 
2012-05-08 10:19:57 PM

FormlessOne: Dwight_Yeast: FlashHarry: seriously, though - obama vacillates on ONE issue. romney vacillates on ALL issues.

No, there's been no vacillation: he said he supported domestic partnerships but not gay marriage in 2008. He stuck to that until about a year ago, when he said his view of gay marriage is "evolving"; he still supports domestic partnerships.

That's forward progress, not oscillating between two points.

Well put.


It's one of those topics I have a vested interest in, as I'd like to get married someday, so I felt it was important to understand Obama's stance on it before I voted for him. I'm surprised that many don't seem to understand his position, and that he's the most pro-gay rights candidate either party has thus far fielded.
 
2012-05-08 10:22:16 PM
Romney proves Team GOP will follow anyone on their team. Any. One. They'd follow Obama if he was traded. They'd despise Reagan if he switched parties.
 
2012-05-08 10:33:00 PM

BSABSVR: kc278: BSABSVR: So has anyone made a facile argument about gay marriage yet?

[i1046.photobucket.com image 625x625]

pretty sure I know what I'm doing, so feel free to Fark right off.


1.(esp. of a theory or argument) Appearing neat and comprehensive by ignoring the complexities of an issue; superficial.
2.(of a person) Having a superficial or simplistic knowledge or approach.

Done and done.
 
2012-05-08 10:44:54 PM
fraud
 
2012-05-08 10:52:58 PM
Huffpo just can't stop the lying.

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/immigration
 
2012-05-08 11:18:13 PM

Cataholic: Huffpo just can't stop the lying.


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2012-05-08 11:51:50 PM
Really, it doesn't matter what the president or the candidates think. It's congress who will vote to change the INA. However, things are already changing. 601 waivers are now about to be done in the US so immigrants don't have to leave their families for months on end waiting for a form to be approved.

The immigration law book needs a complete overhaul by people who know and completely understand immigration law. This will never happen.
 
2012-05-08 11:52:20 PM
crooksandliars.com
 
2012-05-09 12:47:37 AM

FlashHarry: Chimperror2: It's evolving. Like Obama's hatred of gay marriage.

shut up, tu quoque!


seriously, though - obama vacillates on ONE issue. romney vacillates on ALL issues.


ONE issue? Lets see, he supports war in Libya but not Iraq. Egypt sort of. Maybe Syria. Afghanistan? Definitely not. Well, maybe short term. But bring the troops home. Through Tehran.

Global warming? Big issue and gas should rise to $10 per gallon or gas is too high now and we need to reform the system to make gas cheaper?

Balanced budget or stimulus? Tax cuts? How does he feel about guns? Is it guns good, self-defense "stand your ground" bad platform?

How about marijuana? Illegal immigration? - most deportations ever or trying to get everyone here legal (and voting)?

Obama makes flip-floppers look like amateurs. Gay marriage only got covered because the lobby for it is more vocal. But he has definite "evolving" issues across the spectrum.
 
2012-05-09 12:59:38 AM
gee I'd have thought the "tough on immigration" GOP would be applauding the Obama administration's record deportations.
 
2012-05-09 01:01:11 AM

Chimperror2: Lets see, he supports war in Libya but not Iraq.


Good lord.
 
2012-05-09 01:04:28 AM

Chimperror2: ONE issue? Lets see, he supports war in Libya but not Iraq.


SO then if you support the was on Afghanistan that means you must support us going to war with Mexico and Canada too?


That's a completely retarded argument. DO YOU THINK THE IRAQ WAS A GREAT IDEA? YES or NO?

Those are two different countries ass hat it's not flip flopping.

Stop being a complete ass.
 
2012-05-09 01:06:16 AM

The Why Not Guy: gee I'd have thought the "tough on immigration" GOP would be applauding the Obama administration's record deportations.


If Obama does anything the like they just pretend he is not doing it. They did the same thing with Clinton. Clinton balanced the budget and they still attacked him for it.
 
2012-05-09 01:30:23 AM

Corvus: Chimperror2: ONE issue? Lets see, he supports war in Libya but not Iraq.

SO then if you support the was on Afghanistan that means you must support us going to war with Mexico and Canada too?


That's a completely retarded argument. DO YOU THINK THE IRAQ WAS A GREAT IDEA? YES or NO?

Those are two different countries ass hat it's not flip flopping.

Stop being a complete ass.


His ME policy is a flop-flopping disaster. It's all over the map. War, not war, intervention, support, etc. No one knows where they stand.
 
2012-05-09 01:30:48 AM
The problem with deporting Mexicans back to Mexico is that they know how to get back from there.

Start deporting Mexicans to Iraq and Afghanistan. Then the rest will self deport in a month.
 
2012-05-09 01:55:11 AM

wildcardjack: The problem with deporting Mexicans back to Mexico is that they know how to get back from there.

Start deporting Mexicans to Iraq and Afghanistan. Then the rest will self deport in a month.


The BP used to deport to central Mexico. Then they used to return across the border but in different spots (i.e. if they crossed in Texas, they'd deport through California). That made it too hard to sneak back in so Obama Administration changed it.
 
2012-05-09 04:05:28 AM

Chimperror2: His ME policy is a flop-flopping disaster. It's all over the map. War, not war, intervention, support, etc. No one knows where they stand.


Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. And if you can't even understand how it's consistent to support sending air support to Libya and oppose sending ground troops into Iraq, I can't imagine how you ever could understand anyone's policy on military force.
 
2012-05-09 05:25:17 AM

Quasar: A Latino-vote outreach program on Tuesday plans to stress to voters that the president has failed on immigration reform and deported a record number of people, said the Republican National Committee's top Hispanic outreach coordinator.

Meanwhile, in the white side of town, their Hoverround outreach coordinator is yelling about how many of them damn illegals Obama has let into the country.


And we're done.

That cheerfully noted, Mitt Romney doesn't have a position on immigration?

That's weird, usually Romney has too many positions not too few.
 
2012-05-09 06:49:47 AM

quatchi: That cheerfully noted, Mitt Romney doesn't have a position on immigration?


Well, he supports Arizona's SB1070, and said it should be a model for the nation. He's also said that he'd veto the DREAM Act. And he recruited former CA governor Pete Wilson, who is only famous for being tough on immigrants.

So, his campaign doesn't want to talk about it before a general audience.
 
2012-05-09 08:32:04 AM
I heard his position was evolving...
 
2012-05-09 08:40:56 AM

Chimperror2: ONE issue? Lets see, he supports war in Libya but not Iraq.



He flip flops because he doesn't support a war started by the previous administration that has cost us 4,000+ American lives, but does support a war that began during his watch and costs us 0 American lives? My god you're stupid. If this is your argument, I don't see the need to address any of your other "points."
 
2012-05-09 09:03:38 AM
The hispanic vote doesn't mean shiat. The cons slaughtered the dems in 2010 even though the hispanics were pissed at them.
 
2012-05-09 09:07:16 AM
Katie Couric: "What position do you take on (issue X)?"

Mitt: "All of them."
 
2012-05-09 09:14:38 AM
So the poll results on what position he should take aren't in yet?
 
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