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2012-05-08 02:01:38 PM
How about no?
 
2012-05-08 02:49:43 PM
So in other words, Accretive called in a favor and he's making an ass out of himself because of it.

Rahm this is why people think politicians are bought and paid for. How else can you explain defending a company that sent collectors into goddamn hospitals to collect from inpatients?

You slimy fark.
 
2012-05-08 04:16:01 PM
Part of it is: i376.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-08 04:51:09 PM
Yet.
 
2012-05-08 04:51:47 PM

ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]


Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.
 
2012-05-08 04:55:45 PM

R.A.Danny: ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]

Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.


And we sure as hell don't claim any of Wisconsin.
 
2012-05-08 04:56:36 PM
What?

I don't even understand how that looks good in any way or why he would make that statement in a way that was public. Not even Daley would have done that.
 
2012-05-08 04:57:21 PM
How about f*ck you Rahm.
 
2012-05-08 04:57:46 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: R.A.Danny: ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]

Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.

And we sure as hell don't claim any of Wisconsin.


Yes, you do - you own Door County. All the artsy shops are owned by Chicagoans who wanted a "slower lifestyle." I hear they're working on the Dells too.
 
2012-05-08 04:59:38 PM

Janusdog: Philip Francis Queeg: R.A.Danny: ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]

Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.

And we sure as hell don't claim any of Wisconsin.

Yes, you do - you own Door County. All the artsy shops are owned by Chicagoans who wanted a "slower lifestyle." I hear they're working on the Dells too.


Those are failed Chicagoans. The ones who weren't up to our high standards.
 
2012-05-08 05:03:48 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Janusdog: Philip Francis Queeg: R.A.Danny: ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]

Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.

And we sure as hell don't claim any of Wisconsin.

Yes, you do - you own Door County. All the artsy shops are owned by Chicagoans who wanted a "slower lifestyle." I hear they're working on the Dells too.

Those are failed Chicagoans. The ones who weren't up to our high standards.


I disagree. I think they're more like colonists.
 
2012-05-08 05:05:03 PM
FTA: "I want to thank Lori Swanson for ignoring political pressure and corporate influence and continuing to stand up for the patients we care for," President Linda Hamilton said in a written statement.

celebrityfitnesstraining.com

Upsetting this woman is a bad idea.
 
2012-05-08 05:05:12 PM

Janusdog: Philip Francis Queeg: Janusdog: Philip Francis Queeg: R.A.Danny: ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]

Does not extend South of 80. That's where Georgia, Alabama, and Florida are.

And we sure as hell don't claim any of Wisconsin.

Yes, you do - you own Door County. All the artsy shops are owned by Chicagoans who wanted a "slower lifestyle." I hear they're working on the Dells too.

Those are failed Chicagoans. The ones who weren't up to our high standards.

I disagree. I think they're more like colonists.


I guess you could view it as a penal colony.
 
2012-05-08 05:06:50 PM
fark RAHM.
 
2012-05-08 05:08:24 PM
Rahm,

Instead of shilling for a deadbeat, law-violating company, how about you concentrate on generating an acceptable list of firearm regulations in the city so that we stop losing money from losing court battles? It's kind of shiatty the police can railroad through a new firing range within city limits but normal citizens can neither shoot their nor buy ammo until we hit farking halfway to Wisconsin.

Sincerely,
Your constituent and taxpayer
 
2012-05-08 05:09:00 PM
"I'm coming for you, Rahm"
www.fearnet.com
 
2012-05-08 05:09:10 PM

Dimensio: FTA: "I want to thank Lori Swanson for ignoring political pressure and corporate influence and continuing to stand up for the patients we care for," President Linda Hamilton said in a written statement.

[celebrityfitnesstraining.com image 272x430]

Upsetting this woman is a bad idea.


Hahaha! Well, Rahm ought to appreciate that. Probably turns him on.
 
2012-05-08 05:10:21 PM

Janusdog: Dimensio: FTA: "I want to thank Lori Swanson for ignoring political pressure and corporate influence and continuing to stand up for the patients we care for," President Linda Hamilton said in a written statement.

[celebrityfitnesstraining.com image 272x430]

Upsetting this woman is a bad idea.

Hahaha! Well, Rahm ought to appreciate that. Probably turns him on.


Mr. Rahm is the mayor of the city of Chicago. If he is like other Chicago residents, the sight of firearms causes him to experience crippling, debilitating fear.
 
2012-05-08 05:16:32 PM
Dear Rahm (may I call you Rahm?),

How nice that you choose to shill for these money-grubbing, law ignoring bastards. Please hasten to fark yourself vigorously, thoroughly, and repeatedly with a pine cone.

Cordially,

Minnesota
 
2012-05-08 05:16:33 PM

Dimensio: Janusdog: Dimensio: FTA: "I want to thank Lori Swanson for ignoring political pressure and corporate influence and continuing to stand up for the patients we care for," President Linda Hamilton said in a written statement.

[celebrityfitnesstraining.com image 272x430]

Upsetting this woman is a bad idea.

Hahaha! Well, Rahm ought to appreciate that. Probably turns him on.

Mr. Rahm is the mayor of the city of Chicago. If he is like other Chicago residents, the sight of firearms causes him to experience crippling, debilitating fear.


Nah, Chicago has plenty of residents more than happy to use guns for their intended use.


Tracking homicides in Chicago
 
2012-05-08 05:24:56 PM
He didn't order anyone to do anything, he just asked. Why the butthurt?
 
2012-05-08 05:33:41 PM
Dear Rahm: You can go ahead and do anything you want, and I really don't care that much since I live outside the city limits. Just one thing: don't fark with Lollapalooza. It's just fine as is.

Thanks,
Mr_Fab
(former resident, now a suburbanite)
 
2012-05-08 05:50:47 PM

Surool: He didn't order anyone to do anything, he just asked. Why the butthurt?


1) Because Socialism?

2) Because 0bama?

3) Because Jewish?

4) Because Rahm


/I'm thinking the last one is the answer.
//Republicans HATE Rahm, largely because he pulls the same shiat they do, but for the other side
 
2012-05-08 05:57:35 PM
Bummer. He'll have to go back to fixing up DS9 and running his brother's bar.

images.wikia.com
 
2012-05-08 06:20:26 PM

Surool: He didn't order anyone to do anything, he just asked. Why the butthurt?


He's trying to pressure the MN AG into settling things quietly, and more favorably for the company, after it was caught doing some pretty egregious sh*t to MN citizens.

Why?
Accretive, one of Chicagoland's fastest-growing companies, received $6 million in tax increment financing from the City of Chicago in 2010 to help it build a service center on South LaSalle Street that was projected to employ 650 people. The company also received a mixture of tax and job-training credits from the state of Illinois valued at $1.42 million. Link
So they're calling in some political favors, and Rahm's obliging. I guess nothing wrong with that, right? As long as you've got friends in high places, you shouldn't answer for violating the law? In fact, law enforcement shouldn't even look into things you might have done, without talking to the boss first? "It's how the system works" or some such?

But you're right, he's just asking. And the answer is, "go f*ck yourself". I'm sure that's language he can understand.
 
2012-05-08 06:24:07 PM
No, but all the shiat leaks right across, via I90. The constant stream of Chicagoan welfare scammers and felons is putting a rapidly increasing burden on human services, protection, and enforcement. And I got your citation right here.

/Ken Harrelson can go right the fark away.
 
2012-05-08 07:35:22 PM
What hobnail said times 1 million. Would like to see their license to do business in Minnesota revoked....
 
2012-05-08 07:47:28 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Surool: He didn't order anyone to do anything, he just asked. Why the butthurt?

He's trying to pressure the MN AG into settling things quietly, and more favorably for the company, after it was caught doing some pretty egregious sh*t to MN citizens.


He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?
 
2012-05-08 08:02:51 PM

Surool: He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?


Maybe it would be easier if you'd just explain why you support his position and the content of his letter.
 
2012-05-08 08:13:52 PM

Surool: tallguywithglasseson: Surool: He didn't order anyone to do anything, he just asked. Why the butthurt?

He's trying to pressure the MN AG into settling things quietly, and more favorably for the company, after it was caught doing some pretty egregious sh*t to MN citizens.

He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?


Who's butthurt? Rahm? Accretive Health? The Minn AG obviously isn't.
 
2012-05-08 08:24:03 PM

Dimensio: Janusdog: Dimensio: FTA: "I want to thank Lori Swanson for ignoring political pressure and corporate influence and continuing to stand up for the patients we care for," President Linda Hamilton said in a written statement.

[celebrityfitnesstraining.com image 272x430]

Upsetting this woman is a bad idea.

Hahaha! Well, Rahm ought to appreciate that. Probably turns him on.

Mr. Rahm is the mayor of the city of Chicago. If he is like other Chicago residents, the sight of firearms causes him to experience crippling, debilitating fear.


And foie gras. Just mentioning the word make Chicagoans cower in fear.
 
2012-05-08 09:14:33 PM

Oakenshield: No, but all the shiat leaks right across, via I90. The constant stream of Chicagoan welfare scammers and felons is putting a rapidly increasing burden on human services, protection, and enforcement. And I got your citation right here.


Welcome to one of the fun new problems of the 21th century: suburban ghettos: as poor urbanites are forced out of the cities by gentrification, and middle-class residents of inner suburbs die off, the lower classes are shifting from the inner cities to the border between city and suburb, where they belong (ie, where they've lived for all of human history save for the last 70 years in the USA).

Enjoy!
 
2012-05-08 09:16:08 PM

ytterbium: Part of it is: [i376.photobucket.com image 300x219]


It's more like this:

i.imgur.com

/NE IL native
 
2012-05-08 09:16:40 PM

Elandriel: So in other words, Accretive called in a favor and he's making an ass out of himself because of it.

Rahm this is why people think politicians are bought and paid for. How else can you explain defending a company that sent collectors into goddamn hospitals to collect from inpatients?

You slimy fark.


Think? This is Illinois politics. We know they're corrupt.
 
2012-05-08 09:20:40 PM

Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 575x529]


lmao

That's awesome
 
2012-05-08 10:23:15 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Think? This is Illinois politics. We know they're corrupt.


Actually, this is likely one of the least corrupt things any Chicago mayor has done in the last fifty years. All he did was send a letter asking for something.
 
2012-05-08 10:44:13 PM

Elandriel: Rahm this is why people think politicians are bought and paid for. How else can you explain defending a company that sent collectors into goddamn hospitals to collect from inpatients?


They didn't send collectors into the hospital; they collectors worked there - they ran the entire accounts receivable department. They were the ones who were responsible for collecting from insurers, too, as well as from patients. Hospitals certainly can attempt to collect from their patients while they are onsite, and there's no reason they can't hire a vendor to do the same.

From what I've seen of the AG's allegations, there's a lot of emotional appeal and little actual hint of legal violation.
 
2012-05-08 11:50:37 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Surool: He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?

Maybe it would be easier if you'd just explain why you support his position and the content of his letter.


I don't support any of it. I just don't see why you all have your panties rumpled over a letter. I ignore emails all the time, big f*cking deal.
 
2012-05-09 01:17:23 AM

Surool: tallguywithglasseson: Surool: He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?

Maybe it would be easier if you'd just explain why you support his position and the content of his letter.

I don't support any of it. I just don't see why you all have your panties rumpled over a letter. I ignore emails all the time, big f*cking deal.


I think the only two people with their panties in a bunch are you and Rahm. Minnesota AG just hit the ignore button. Rahm wants additional private meetings and all the bunchy panty attention. Rahm says they are friends and big supporters. AG says BFD, go away. And you seem concerned by this? Why?

/Actually Rahm just wrote them a big check paid for by Chicagoans. Kind of makes him look retarded if they go and send all that money to Minnesota in legal fees and fines and end up firing Chicagoans. That would be the best plea agreement ("send us all the chicago money and open office in Minneapolis and hire as many as in chicago office.")
 
2012-05-09 02:38:29 AM

Sum Dum Gai: They didn't send collectors into the hospital; they collectors worked there - they ran the entire accounts receivable department. They were the ones who were responsible for collecting from insurers, too, as well as from patients. Hospitals certainly can attempt to collect from their patients while they are onsite, and there's no reason they can't hire a vendor to do the same.

From what I've seen of the AG's allegations, there's a lot of emotional appeal and little actual hint of legal violation


Actually she alleges collectors demanded payment from patients before they would be treated in the ER, among other things. Some of the patients in question have gone public supporting these allegations. The AG also received some documents from the company which she says backs her claims; Accretives' response was simply to complain that the documents were given "voluntarily and confidentially".

In any case, their practices were such that Fairview dropped them. No idea where you're from, but assuming it's not from Minnesota - that's a big account. For reference, about 2.7 billion in revenue in 2010.

You want to see some appeal to emotion, check Accretive's public statements.
 
2012-05-09 04:00:13 AM

Chimperror2: Surool: tallguywithglasseson: Surool: He sent a letter OMFZGBBQ! The pressure is unbearable! ...and he did so at the request of one of the parties involved in the MN case. Again, why the butthurt?

Maybe it would be easier if you'd just explain why you support his position and the content of his letter.

I don't support any of it. I just don't see why you all have your panties rumpled over a letter. I ignore emails all the time, big f*cking deal.

I think the only two people with their panties in a bunch are you and Rahm. Minnesota AG just hit the ignore button. Rahm wants additional private meetings and all the bunchy panty attention. Rahm says they are friends and big supporters. AG says BFD, go away. And you seem concerned by this? Why?

I just said the AG should ignore the letter from Rohm, it's as easy as ignoring emails. You are completely retarded.

 
2012-05-09 05:57:41 AM
It's the Chicago way...
 
2012-05-09 07:38:38 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Actually she alleges collectors demanded payment from patients before they would be treated in the ER, among other things.


That's actually legal as well as long as it doesn't delay or prevent emergent care. EMTALA guarantees: a) everyone will be triaged, b) anyone with a medical condition that could seriously affect their health, bodily function, or organ function must be treated until stable regardless of ability to pay. As long as the patients aren't having an unstable emergency medical condition at the time they are trying to collect, it's legal.

In any case, their practices were such that Fairview dropped them. No idea where you're from, but assuming it's not from Minnesota - that's a big account. For reference, about 2.7 billion in revenue in 2010.

Oh, I'm from Minnesota and I've worked with Fairview before, I know how large they are. Fairview made the right decision to drop this group; even if their actions are legal, and I believe they probably are, their actions reflect very poorly on the health system. That's the same reason most ERs won't turn away non-EMTALA patients - they COULD, but it's not in their best interest to do so because it gives such a bad impression of their hospital. In an era where health systems are trying to paint themselves as partners who care about their patients, these sorts of things ruin their image.
 
2012-05-09 08:21:01 PM

Sum Dum Gai: That's actually legal as well as long as it doesn't delay or prevent emergent care. EMTALA guarantees: a) everyone will be triaged, b) anyone with a medical condition that could seriously affect their health, bodily function, or organ function must be treated until stable regardless of ability to pay. As long as the patients aren't having an unstable emergency medical condition at the time they are trying to collect, it's legal.

Attorney General Lori Swanson says Accretive Health debt collectors were embedded in emergency rooms and even came to patients' beds for money. She says debt collectors had access to patient conditions, and private information such as marital status and religion, all violations of state and federal law. Link
For the one patient who's come forward in the Strib, it was a kidney stone. She was treated, threatening to withhold treatment (implied or otherwise) may be legal as long as you don't follow through. However that story may not be, it's suggested, the only story of bill collecting in the ER, and the AG is currently interviewing other Accretive clients (against Rahm Emanuel's wishes).

Additionally, she's alleging some violations of PHI restrictions (possibly HIPAA?), as quoted above.

Whatever the case, the legality of their practices is matter for the courts to decide, IMO, not for political party power players, or other such alliterative entities.
 
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