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(Newsnet5)   The guys who tried to blow up a bridge in Cleveland weren't part of the Occupy movement, except for the one they featured on their website. Or the dozens of Occupy members who showed up to give support   (newsnet5.com) divider line 194
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2012-05-08 05:12:33 PM
Keep raping that poultry.

Hey, has anyone heard from J.T. Ready lately?
 
2012-05-08 05:13:11 PM
Pro Zack: A Dark Evil Omen: Pro Zack: If only the court of public opinion worked that way. instead, all conservatives are racists. and, I guess this means all liberals are terrorist extremists. sorry about it guys WE know it isn't true, but that doesn't count for much.

It's alright. I'm sure as long as we keep doing things like feeding the homeless, getting street kids into better circumstances, helping people against illegal foreclosures, supporting striking workers, setting up radical free clinics for people who can't afford proper health care and so on we can clean away this tarnish.

Remind me again what you rightists do?

First, we try to get your hand out of our pocket. Then we give our own money to feed the homeless, get street kids into better circumstances.... fund healthcare clinics etc.


How's that working out?
 
2012-05-08 05:13:51 PM
Pro Zack: First, we try to get your hand out of our pocket. Then we give our own money to feed the homeless, get street kids into better circumstances.... fund healthcare clinics etc.

Except I'm just talking about things Occupy and related groups are doing, not the government. So in fact, your response is "Try to score some more tax cuts for rich people". Good, I'm glad we're both being honest.
 
2012-05-08 05:15:32 PM

The FBI said the five self-proclaimed anarchists came up with a plan to blow up the Route 82 bridge over the Cuyahoga National Forest in Brecksville. They were arrested after allegedly pushing a button they thought would detonate a C4 bomb placed at the base of the bridge on April 30.


static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-05-08 05:15:33 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Keep raping that poultry.

Hey, has anyone heard from J.T. Ready lately?


I wonder is openly trying to threadjack taught at the Occusquatters camps, sport?

Just say ya got nothing.
 
2012-05-08 05:16:56 PM
Pro Zack: Then we give our own money to feed the homeless, get street kids into better circumstances... fund healthcare clinics etc.

Well, what do you know - conservatives do have a sense of humour. Thanks for the laugh!
 
2012-05-08 05:18:25 PM
halfof33: HotWingConspiracy: Keep raping that poultry.

Hey, has anyone heard from J.T. Ready lately?

I wonder is openly trying to threadjack taught at the Occusquatters camps, sport?

Just say ya got nothing.


Maybe we should call his family?
 
2012-05-08 05:18:39 PM
coeyagi: skullkrusher: coeyagi: Isitoveryet: while i support the OWS movement in their attempts to enact change to the U.S. financial institutions I do not condone the actions of these Anarchists.

Change through peaceful means never through violence.



/see how easy that is Conservatives?

The great irony is that most of us will keep saying that a) we don't condone what they did b) and that all of OWS shouldn't be condemned for it, and then the trolls will pick 2 posters who defend these morons and then say all of us libs in here defend these guys.

Fark Independents™ - Because statistical outliers = everyone

need help nailing in the second hand? ;)

No, that one has to stay free to guide your blind mom's mouth onto my dick.

//one irrelevant deflecting comment deserves another


Do you know what "deflecting" is? You seem to use it a lot. I've never seen you use it correctly.
 
2012-05-08 05:19:09 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Headso: fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

[i.imgur.com image 574x650]


The vote has no power.

The political process is a sham.

That pretty much leaves second amendment solutions and acts of terrorism for people that sincerely want to change things, so I think we'll see more of that.
 
2012-05-08 05:21:47 PM
At this point there needs to be Yakey Sax playing in loop every time an Occupier tries to do anything.
 
2012-05-08 05:21:52 PM
HotWingConspiracy: halfof33: HotWingConspiracy: Keep raping that poultry.

Hey, has anyone heard from J.T. Ready lately?

I wonder is openly trying to threadjack taught at the Occusquatters camps, sport?

Just say ya got nothing.

Maybe we should call his family?


DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT!!

/Maybe you should read the FARQ.
 
2012-05-08 05:22:30 PM
Well if this is true, then fark them. I ain't gonna defend these guys. I may still support the movement (kinda) but these individuals deserve the slammer.
 
2012-05-08 05:23:33 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

I would be surprised about this, but I am not anymore. Remember, it was cartel hitmen that killed his family. Not him.
 
2012-05-08 05:23:45 PM
I wonder which of the farkers who spent all the OWS threads biatching about OWS not being violent and rioting to prove their point is an accused bomber in this case, and how many will stand up in support now that someone did something violent and stupid.
 
2012-05-08 05:24:55 PM
Headso: Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.


What part of a "bait car" didn't you understand? The government can provide the illusion of opportunity or means and it is up to suspects to act on it. It is not sufficient for them to just talk about it, but once they actually put the explosives on the bridge, the crime is committed. Sting operations where the government provides means and/or opportunity to someone who otherwise has motive and they act on it, are not entrapped. They acted purposefully, with free will, based on their own motivations. The defendants will not be able to say they didn't believe they were blowing up a bridge, nor will they be able to argue that otherwise law abiding citizens would blow up the bridge given the same scenario. Sorry, but extremists will not win an entrapment defense either subjectively or objectively.
 
2012-05-08 05:25:12 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Headso: fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

[i.imgur.com image 574x650]




Deflection much? Or should I remind you of your affiliation with a belief system that, when it goes beyond working within a legal system of governance, is widely held to be the single largest murdering movement in history? Lenin and Stalin aren't heroes, and neither is that Norwegian freak.
 
2012-05-08 05:26:05 PM
Source4leko: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

I would be surprised about this, but I am not anymore. Remember, it was cartel hitmen that killed his family. Not him.


JT Ready was a Democrat candidate for Sheriff. Of course it will be ignored.
 
2012-05-08 05:26:11 PM
halfof33: HotWingConspiracy: halfof33: HotWingConspiracy: Keep raping that poultry.

Hey, has anyone heard from J.T. Ready lately?

I wonder is openly trying to threadjack taught at the Occusquatters camps, sport?

Just say ya got nothing.

Maybe we should call his family?

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT!!

/Maybe you should read the FARQ.


It would be a terrible shame if something has happened that might reflect negatively on the people he associates with.
 
2012-05-08 05:26:46 PM
fickenchucker: A Dark Evil Omen: Headso: fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

[i.imgur.com image 574x650]



Deflection much? Or should I remind you of your affiliation with a belief system that, when it goes beyond working within a legal system of governance, is widely held to be the single largest murdering movement in history? Lenin and Stalin aren't heroes, and neither is that Norwegian freak.


He's a Bolshevik?
 
2012-05-08 05:27:45 PM
Chimperror2: Source4leko: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

I would be surprised about this, but I am not anymore. Remember, it was cartel hitmen that killed his family. Not him.

JT Ready was a Democrat candidate for Sheriff. Of course it will be ignored.


Of course it will be ignored. The Fark Conservative Conspiracy prevents us from talking about it
 
2012-05-08 05:28:16 PM
fickenchucker: A Dark Evil Omen: Headso: fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

[i.imgur.com image 574x650]



Deflection much? Or should I remind you of your affiliation with a belief system that, when it goes beyond working within a legal system of governance, is widely held to be the single largest murdering movement in history? Lenin and Stalin aren't heroes, and neither is that Norwegian freak.


I'm not a Marxist or a communist. You're barking up the wrong tree. You, however, share pretty close ideological ground with Pinochet, so if you want to play this game I wouldn't talk much.
 
2012-05-08 05:28:23 PM
Smackledorfer: I wonder which of the farkers who spent all the OWS threads biatching about OWS not being violent and rioting to prove their point is an accused bomber in this case, and how many will stand up in support now that someone did something violent and stupid.

most are indirectly supporting the bombers with the but...but...but...the Tea Party is bad too and they have bad placards there.

and remember, there are a lot of people here who condoned the idea of violence against the 1%er. These guys just tried to act on it...no wait, the people who would have been hurt are the 99%ers.

not surprising.

the 0WS movement is a fraud and a failure.
 
2012-05-08 05:29:35 PM
HotWingConspiracy:
It would be a terrible shame if something has happened that might reflect negatively on the people he associates with.


Wow, you are a persistent little troll aren't you?

Hey everyone: Hotwing doesn't want to talk about the douchgebag occupiers and their bomb, wonder why?

Don't mention the five Occutards and their bomb to hotwing, it gives him case of the Mondays....

Why U No Talk About Bomb, wings?
 
2012-05-08 05:30:36 PM
Chimperror2: What part of a "bait car" didn't you understand?

I thought you said bate car
 
2012-05-08 05:30:36 PM
Headso: qorkfiend: Headso: Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.

Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to prove entrapment. For it to be entrapment, the accused would have to prove that they wouldn't have even considered committing the crime without the encouragement of government agents (simply supplying ingredients is insufficient); from what's in the thread I don't think that's the case.

I don't think it was entrapment and I doubt taking these guys off the street is going to deprive society of anything great but it seems like it is one of those cases like with the muslim extremists they keep setting up where the people wouldn't have done anything but sit in their mom's basement and complain about the man without the help of the FBI.


Right, because nobody could find Anarchist's Cookbook stuff or any other how to guides on the internet.

To me, any giving of fake bombing materials isn't fulfilling a true need of the bomber (who could eventually get a bomb, though one could argue, I suppose, that they might change their mind if it took a few weeks to do so and they slept on the idea a few times) but rather ensuring two things: 1. that the bomber doesn't hurt anyone. 2. That the law enforcement doesn't have to follow them for a long period of time, wasting money and increasing the risk of the op being blown and potentially the officer's/agent's losing their lives.

I'm curious, since you are against such operations by law enforcement: What should they do if they come across an individual who is in the midst of forming a plan to blow something up (or other crime), if not a sting operation to get evidence of him in the act? Should they set up a permanent tail on them and cross their fingers that they don't lose him as he actually blows something up, as well as hoping that in that window of ALMOST blowing up a bomb and the cops acting (which I'm not sure at what stage you would have them act) on it, that the cops manage to prevent the actual bomb from going off.
 
2012-05-08 05:30:37 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: and remember, there are a lot of people here who condoned the idea of violence against the 1%er. These guys just tried to act on it...no wait, the people who would have been hurt are the 99%ers.

Sounds like they don't really fit in with OWS.
 
2012-05-08 05:32:10 PM
halfof33: HotWingConspiracy:
It would be a terrible shame if something has happened that might reflect negatively on the people he associates with.

Wow, you are a persistent little troll aren't you?

Hey everyone: Hotwing doesn't want to talk about the douchgebag occupiers and their bomb, wonder why?

Don't mention the five Occutards and their bomb to hotwing, it gives him case of the Mondays....

Why U No Talk About Bomb, wings?


Sorry about your ass burgers.
 
2012-05-08 05:32:53 PM
halfof33: HotWingConspiracy:
It would be a terrible shame if something has happened that might reflect negatively on the people he associates with.

Wow, you are a persistent little troll aren't you?

Hey everyone: Hotwing doesn't want to talk about the douchgebag occupiers and their bomb, wonder why?

Don't mention the five Occutards and their bomb to hotwing, it gives him case of the Mondays....

Why U No Talk About Bomb, wings?


So five dipshiat anarchists (Who didn't actually accomplish anything because of the aforementioned dipshiattedness) with apparent support from 'dozens' should reflect badly on the entire OWS movement (composed tens, if not hundreds, of thousands)?

Oh wait, you're probably the same kind of dipshiat who thinks al-Qaeda represents the entire Muslim religion, right?
 
2012-05-08 05:33:41 PM
Fluorescent Testicle: Haven't we already had this thread? With almost the same headline, even.

Yes, we did. Two days ago.
 
2012-05-08 05:34:03 PM
fickenchucker: Or should I remind you of your affiliation with a belief system that, when it goes beyond working within a legal system of governance, is widely held to be the single largest murdering movement in history?

It's important that we all be held accountable for the end result of our belief systems once they go beyond working within a legal system of governance, after all.

Admit it. You could not have looked an honest person in the eyes and said that post out loud to them without grimacing in shame.
 
2012-05-08 05:36:27 PM
In politics, if you don't define yourself, your enemies will do it for you.

I like the Occupy movement a lot but without any semblance of structure, or a charter that says what they do and don't support, people will believe this.

If they had something written down somewhere that said 'hey, we don't support acts of terrorism' then Occupy would have a great defense.
 
2012-05-08 05:36:36 PM
Smackledorfer: who could eventually get a bomb

I doubt these guys could have gotten a bomb, I doubt these guys could have even gotten their hands on cuban cigars.
 
2012-05-08 05:37:09 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: 0WS

halfof33: Occutards

You two should really agree on a common terminology. You're diluting the brand.
 
2012-05-08 05:37:33 PM
Chimperror2: Source4leko: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

I would be surprised about this, but I am not anymore. Remember, it was cartel hitmen that killed his family. Not him.

JT Ready was a Democrat candidate for Sheriff. Of course it will be ignored.


Cite one actual Democrat who supported his candidacy.
 
2012-05-08 05:38:30 PM
LordJiro:
So five dipshiat anarchists (Who didn't actually accomplish anything because of the aforementioned dipshiattedness) with apparent support from 'dozens' should reflect badly on the entire OWS movement (composed tens, if not hundreds, of thousands)?

Oh wait, you're probably the same kind of dipshiat who thinks al-Qaeda represents the entire Muslim religion, right?


Jesus Christ, the dreaded
"So (strawman)
Oh wait, (straw man)"
Argument


Socrates himself invented that! Well played.
 
2012-05-08 05:40:23 PM
coeyagi:
Occutard? I didn't realize that the intelligence of OWS folks was in question. I mean, I can post misspelled Tea Party placards ALL DAY. Where is the OWS-protestors-are-not-intelligent narrative? Did you just make it up?
If so..... 1/10?

I don't know about other cities, but the local Occupy is a bunch of Morans. They put on black masks and tried to take over a construction site to turn it into a community center *across the street* from an existing community center, twice, in two different locations.

http://www.carrborocitizen.com/main/2012/02/09/proposed-cvs-site-occu p ied/

They actually believe that cops are the only thing standing in the way of the poor having enough eat.
 
2012-05-08 05:40:53 PM
CheetahOlivetti: Chimperror2: Source4leko: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

I would be surprised about this, but I am not anymore. Remember, it was cartel hitmen that killed his family. Not him.

JT Ready was a Democrat candidate for Sheriff. Of course it will be ignored.

Cite one actual Democrat who supported his candidacy.


JT Ready. QED
 
2012-05-08 05:41:28 PM
redmond24: In politics, if you don't define yourself, your enemies will do it for you.

the same posters who have attacked OWS from day 1 are in here gloating so it isn't like these posts are from people who are suddenly disillusioned.
 
2012-05-08 05:42:01 PM
NINDroog: Hey, what happened to all those Teaparty people that are always screaming "the outliers aren't the majority"? Just don't like the hypocrisy.

So you are saying that like the nuts in the Teaparty, that these guys are the majority?
 
2012-05-08 05:43:16 PM
HotWingConspiracy: tenpoundsofcheese: and remember, there are a lot of people here who condoned the idea of violence against the 1%er. These guys just tried to act on it...no wait, the people who would have been hurt are the 99%ers.

Sounds like they don't really fit in with OWS.


neither do the cop car shiatters, or the anti- Semites, or the guys who throw Molotov cocktails at the police, or the rapists, or the thieves at the camps or the racists or the people who vandalize buildings and cars or people who illegally take over buildings, or the guy who 0WS spends 25k to bail out the guy who had gun charges filed against him ...sorry, they all are part of 0WS.
 
2012-05-08 05:43:37 PM
oi48.tinypic.com

lol, these Occupy idiots are running out of ideas.
 
2012-05-08 05:44:22 PM
someonelse: tenpoundsofcheese: 0WS

halfof33: Occutards

You two should really agree on a common terminology. You're diluting the brand.


I missed the last 2 conference calls on messaging due to travel, so I missed this.

I'll go with Occutards in the future.

Thanks.
 
2012-05-08 05:44:46 PM
redmond24: In politics, if you don't define yourself, your enemies will do it for you.

I like the Occupy movement a lot but without any semblance of structure, or a charter that says what they do and don't support, people will believe this.

If they had something written down somewhere that said 'hey, we don't support acts of terrorism' then Occupy would have a great defense.


Where has the Tea Party written that they don't approve of murdering your family?
 
2012-05-08 05:45:52 PM
LordJiro: Oh wait, you're probably the same kind of dipshiat who thinks al-Qaeda represents the entire Muslim religion, right?

And the same kind of dipshiat who will claim until his dying breath that the 85% of Tea Partiers who are racist, homophobic, dominionist dicknoodles don't speak for the 15% who aren't.

/Percentages aren't meant to be literal.
//I'm probably not far off, though.
///I hate the Tea Party so much that they should have spontaneously combusted by now.
 
2012-05-08 05:47:35 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: fickenchucker: A Dark Evil Omen: Headso: fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

[i.imgur.com image 574x650]



Deflection much? Or should I remind you of your affiliation with a belief system that, when it goes beyond working within a legal system of governance, is widely held to be the single largest murdering movement in history? Lenin and Stalin aren't heroes, and neither is that Norwegian freak.

I'm not a Marxist or a communist. You're barking up the wrong tree. You, however, share pretty close ideological ground with Pinochet, so if you want to play this game I wouldn't talk much.



How in the world do I align with Pinochet? Everything after the armed overthrow of a legitimately elected government is neither here nor there. The point of this thread is to reaffirm legal elections and throw everyone's fringers under the bus.

You lept to the conclusion I agree with every facet of some twisted outlook you think of conservatism or the Tea Party. Of course I don't, but I agree with more of the right than I do the left. Each side, left unchecked, is equally corrupt and dangerous. The left, unchecked, would prefer unsustainable taxes and the crushing of corporate profit, not realizing you really shouldn't milk a cow so hard it turns to dust. The right, left unchecked, would probably want to see the resurgence of the Rockefeller-types and a limited middle class.

But if you want to go on and keep building walls, go ahead.
 
2012-05-08 05:47:43 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: HotWingConspiracy: tenpoundsofcheese: and remember, there are a lot of people here who condoned the idea of violence against the 1%er. These guys just tried to act on it...no wait, the people who would have been hurt are the 99%ers.

Sounds like they don't really fit in with OWS.

*bogiemen*


Yes. Essentially everyone you simps attempt to tie to them. You just can't get anything to stick, but never stop to wonder why.
 
2012-05-08 05:48:04 PM
AdolfOliverPanties: When you can't trust people named Skully, Cyco and Skabby to be upstanding citizens, you know the world is in the toilet.

Hey! I resemble that remark! :)
 
2012-05-08 05:48:18 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: I'll go with Occutards in the future.

I dunno, at a quick glance that almost seems like you're referring to Octomom's kids.
 
2012-05-08 05:49:15 PM
Frank N Stein: [oi48.tinypic.com image 480x640]

lol, these Occupy idiots are running out of ideas.


It shows you how delusional they are:

First they silenced our uprising with a media blackout

yeah, the media DIDN'T cover the Occutards at all. Totally silent. no coverage.
 
2012-05-08 05:50:29 PM
fickenchucker: The point of this thread is to reaffirm legal elections and throw everyone's fringers under the bus.

o_O?
 
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