Are all the commie flea-bags ready to admit they were wrong about the Tea Party now?

OWS had a certain political message, and then was usurped in the public's eye by a number of whack-jobs. Sound familiar?

I don't get it.

Blowing up a bridge affects the 99%. The 1% would fly over in their helicopters.

Now, if you want to affect the 1% you'd have to blow up something precious to them, like a shipment of penismobiles from Italy.

halfof33: Headso: halfof33: Answer: No! But it makes your Occutard buddies terrorists.

lucky we live in a country where extremist rhetoric and hyperbole win the day.

I'm not so sure that trying to blow up a god damn bridge is extremist rhetoric and hyperbole, chief.

the actions someone takes based on that rhetoric is on them.

FarkedOver: halfof33: FarkedOver: halfof33: I commend all the brave Oocutards bravely spinning this story.

Right. Because the FBI would never lie or do anything wrong. Link

That my friend is called a straw man. You aren't so good at this, are you?

Based off of how the FBI has operated in the past one can only assume that same practices and procedures are still in place.

So you are saying that those 5 dipshiats are FBI agents then?

lulz.

I give that THREE WIGGLE HANDS up!

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The third hand lost a finger making the bomb.

Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

halfof33: So you are saying that those 5 dipshiats are FBI agents then?

Yup. That's what I said.

wildcardjack: I don't get it.

Blowing up a bridge affects the 99%. The 1% would fly over in their helicopters.

Now, if you want to affect the 1% you'd have to blow up something precious to them, like a shipment of penismobiles from Italy.



What they should have done is run the idea by their Mensa group

skullkrusher: FarkedOver: The FBI acted as an agent provocateur. This is entrapment. The original plan was to light off some smoke bombs as a diversion to deface some bank buildings. All of the sudden the FBI gets involved and it involves and bombing on federal land.

/COINTELPRO all over again

where are you getting that from? The affidavit has Wright bringing up the idea of explosives and bridge blowing upping

The FBI affidavit.

Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

but you love the chance to white knight for would be domestic terrorists. Why are you complaining?

wildcardjack: I don't get it.

Blowing up a bridge affects the 99%. The 1% would fly over in their helicopters.

Now, if you want to affect the 1% you'd have to blow up something precious to them, like a shipment of penismobiles from Italy.

They're anarchists.

FarkedOver: halfof33: So you are saying that those 5 dipshiats are FBI agents then?

Yup. That's what I said.

Lulz. Solid Jackson. You are an honor to your kind.

Hee hee!

Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

It's not wrong when they do it.

FarkedOver: skullkrusher: FarkedOver: The FBI acted as an agent provocateur. This is entrapment. The original plan was to light off some smoke bombs as a diversion to deface some bank buildings. All of the sudden the FBI gets involved and it involves and bombing on federal land.

/COINTELPRO all over again

where are you getting that from? The affidavit has Wright bringing up the idea of explosives and bridge blowing upping

The FBI affidavit.

WRIGHT: We can make smoke bombs, we can make plastic explosives, we can make, like, we can-it teaches you how to pick locks. It does everything. (laughs)

CHS: How much do we nee-what-- how much money we need to make the plastic explosives.

WRIGHT: I'm not sure, I haven't really read too much into yet, um, I'll have to get into that. I just downloaded it last night.

CHS: Well you gotta get with me-

WRIGHT: Should be able to find it.

CHS: You gotta get with me, uh, if we gonna be trying to do something in a month you need to get with me as soon as possible on how much money we gonna need-

WRIGHT: Definitely.

CHS: -- and the materials that we gonna need. Tell me what all we need to make the i bombs so that we can, uh, start gathering--

WRIGHT: Mainly bleach....

33. During this meeting and WRIGHT discussed what it would take to blow up a bridge as they drove over a bridge in Valley View, Ohio. BAXTER specifically stated, "How much do we need to take out a bridge?"

The chromosomally challenged guys brought up the idea of explosives first.

coeyagi: halfof33: LegacyDL: Let me get this straight if some terrorist got arrested for prostitution and I happen to support prostitution does that make me a terrorist?

Let me get this straight if some Occutards got arrested for terrorism and I happen to support the Occutards does that make me a terrorist.

Answer: No! But it makes your Occutard buddies terrorists.

Occutard? I didn't realize that the intelligence of OWS folks was in question. I mean, I can post misspelled Tea Party placards ALL DAY. Where is the OWS-protestors-are-not-intelligent narrative? Did you just make it up?

If so..... 1/10?

they shiat on cop cars and throw Molotov cocktails at the police, so I wouldn't put them in the intelligent category.
that and the anti-Semitic posters at their rallies.

FarkedOver: skullkrusher: FarkedOver: The FBI acted as an agent provocateur. This is entrapment. The original plan was to light off some smoke bombs as a diversion to deface some bank buildings. All of the sudden the FBI gets involved and it involves and bombing on federal land.

/COINTELPRO all over again

where are you getting that from? The affidavit has Wright bringing up the idea of explosives and bridge blowing upping

The FBI affidavit.

the actual affidavit or the website "green is the new red" that "analyzed" the affidavit?

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

but you love the chance to white knight for would be domestic terrorists. Why are you complaining?

Man, you are really off your game today. Maybe you should go take a walk and get a cup of coffee.

A Dark Evil Omen: fickenchucker: Are all the commie flea-bags ready to admit they were wrong about the Tea Party now?

OWS had a certain political message, and then was usurped in the public's eye by a number of whack-jobs. Sound familiar?

Not really, no. The "number of whack-jobs" in the Tea Party is almost all of them.

As evinced by the fact that you seem to have some kind of right-wing Tourettes and can't even come up with a BSABSVR without a moronic slur attached.

I hate wannabe vanguardist Bolsheviks

sammyk: Anybody know if the FBI has had success prosecuting these "take our bomb and blow something up" cases?

I know it's not entrapment but it walks right up to the line. The dipshiats do deserve it. But I have to wonder how much of a danger they would really be without the FBI encouraging and manipulating them. They basically provide ALL of the material support FFS. Could these dolts really hatch a working plan on their own? I don't think so.

It also raises the issue of just how dangerous are the real terrorist organizations? Seems easy enough to recruit a dumbass to do your dirty work but the best they could do is a loser that thought he could blow up propane tanks with fireworks in Times Square.

/Terrorist, ooggaaa boogaaa
//now give up your liberty citizen

Bait car arrests. It's a crime of opportunity. When presented with explosives do you a) put them on a bridge or b) keep on walking or call 911 and have explosives disposed?

When presented with a car with the keys in the ignition, do you a) steal the car or b) keep on walking or report to police?

If the FBI had given them a gun, told them it was loaded, and they went up to someone, aimed and pulled the trigger, do you think that "someone" has the right to be afforded protection from the trigger pullers by prosecuting the people that tried to kill them? Does it really matter to you that the gun was unloaded or that the FBI gave it to them? They still aimed and pulled the trigger.

Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

but you love the chance to white knight for would be domestic terrorists. Why are you complaining?

Man, you are really off your game today. Maybe you should go take a walk and get a cup of coffee.

He has a sad:

AdolfOliverPanties: When you can't trust people named Skully, Cyco and Skabby to be upstanding citizens, you know the world is in the toilet.

Isitoveryet: while i support the OWS movement in their attempts to enact change to the U.S. financial institutions I do not condone the actions of these Anarchists.

Change through peaceful means never through violence.



/see how easy that is Conservatives?

it's really easy. Maybe for your next lesson you'll invite the "OMG ENTRAPMENT" crowd ;)

qorkfiend: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: Yet another Cleveland Anarchist OWS thread and still no JT Ready thread.

but you love the chance to white knight for would be domestic terrorists. Why are you complaining?

Man, you are really off your game today. Maybe you should go take a walk and get a cup of coffee.

He has a sad:

AdolfOliverPanties: When you can't trust people named Skully, Cyco and Skabby to be upstanding citizens, you know the world is in the toilet.

hehe

skullkrusher: snip

Link
/You won't like the link haha
//You'll still read it because you're just that kinda guy!

Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.

Isitoveryet: while i support the OWS movement in their attempts to enact change to the U.S. financial institutions I do not condone the actions of these Anarchists.

Change through peaceful means never through violence.



/see how easy that is Conservatives?

If only the court of public opinion worked that way. instead, all conservatives are racists. and, I guess this means all liberals are terrorist extremists. sorry about it guys WE know it isn't true, but that doesn't count for much.

FarkedOver: skullkrusher: snip

Link
/You won't like the link haha
//You'll still read it because you're just that kinda guy!

Oh, the CHS is not an angel. Kinda how you get to be a CHS :)

from the affidavit:


8. The (CHS) Confidential Human Source (hereinafter has been working as a source for the FBI since July 20, 2011. The CHS has a criminal record including one conviction for possession of cocaine in 1990, one conviction for robbery in 1991, and four convictions for passing bad checks between 1991 and 2011. The CHS is currently on probation in Cuyahoga and Lorain Counties for passing bad checks. Since July 20, 2011, the CHS has been paid approximately $5,750 for services and $550 for expenses, the CHS has not been paid since beginning her/his probation. During the reporting period, the CHS has made audio and video recordings and provided information and intelligence that have led to the opening of several additional investigations. Your Affiant has been able to corroborate information provided by the CHS and the information has proven to be reliable.

coeyagi: Isitoveryet: while i support the OWS movement in their attempts to enact change to the U.S. financial institutions I do not condone the actions of these Anarchists.

Change through peaceful means never through violence.



/see how easy that is Conservatives?

The great irony is that most of us will keep saying that a) we don't condone what they did b) and that all of OWS shouldn't be condemned for it, and then the trolls will pick 2 posters who defend these morons and then say all of us libs in here defend these guys.

Fark Independents™ - Because statistical outliers = everyone

need help nailing in the second hand? ;)

coeyagi: The great irony is that most of us will keep saying that a) we don't condone what they did b) and that all of OWS shouldn't be condemned for it, and then the trolls will pick 2 posters who defend these morons and then say all of us libs in here defend these guys.

What should we say to the threadjackers who bring up the Tea Party?

Are we bad guys for mentioning them too?

Fark Libo-lardos ^tm ButtHurt since Day 1.

Isitoveryet: while i support the OWS movement in their attempts to enact change to the U.S. financial institutions I do not condone the actions of these Anarchists.

Change through peaceful means never through violence.



/see how easy that is Conservatives?


Now you're painting with a broad brush. Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

Now let's all promise to disagree civilly and severely punish each other's fringers who think blowing up bridges, university labs, and abortion clinics are good ideas.

AdolfOliverPanties: When you can't trust people named Skully, Cyco and Skabby to be upstanding asploding citizens, you know the world is in the toilet.

fickenchucker: Conservatives firmly believe in the power of the vote and working within the framework of our political process.

except for the ones who don't

Headso: Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.

Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to prove entrapment. For it to be entrapment, the accused would have to prove that they wouldn't have even considered committing the crime without the encouragement of government agents (simply supplying ingredients is insufficient); from what's in the thread I don't think that's the case.

A Dark Evil Omen: Pro Zack: If only the court of public opinion worked that way. instead, all conservatives are racists. and, I guess this means all liberals are terrorist extremists. sorry about it guys WE know it isn't true, but that doesn't count for much.

It's alright. I'm sure as long as we keep doing things like feeding the homeless, getting street kids into better circumstances, helping people against illegal foreclosures, supporting striking workers, setting up radical free clinics for people who can't afford proper health care and so on we can clean away this tarnish.

Remind me again what you rightists do?

you do all that and still manage to spend all this time playing a self-congratulatory hand-wringing nitwit on the internet? You are truly a man for all seasons.

Sitting around in parks banging drums isn't doing fark all, so why not? Cry havoc!

LarryDan43: How does one get an occupy membership? Is there a card? Is it laminated?

But in this case the perps knew the secret handshake.

Pants full of macaroni!!: And because all Liberal Leftist Commies are a hivemind who all hold the exact same beliefs as one another, this is an indictment of the entire Left side of the political spectrum.

Besides that not being what anyone is saying, well other than about the teabaggers and the GOP, that's just fncking stupid.

qorkfiend: Headso: Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.

Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to prove entrapment. For it to be entrapment, the accused would have to prove that they wouldn't have even considered committing the crime without the encouragement of government agents (simply supplying ingredients is insufficient); from what's in the thread I don't think that's the case.

I don't think it was entrapment and I doubt taking these guys off the street is going to deprive society of anything great but it seems like it is one of those cases like with the muslim extremists they keep setting up where the people wouldn't have done anything but sit in their mom's basement and complain about the man without the help of the FBI.

coeyagi: //one irrelevant deflecting comment deserves another

Lulz. his wasn't irrelevant nor deflecting, nor did it show the weapons grade butthurt your reply did.

/a hand and a microscope, huh, shorty?

s2s2s2: Pants full of macaroni!!: And because all Liberal Leftist Commies are a hivemind who all hold the exact same beliefs as one another, this is an indictment of the entire Left side of the political spectrum.

Besides that not being what anyone is saying, well other than about the teabaggers and the GOP, that's just fncking stupid.

Disingenuous troll is disingenuous.

Headso: qorkfiend: Headso: Chimperror2: Same thing. That these a**holes would actually place what they thought were explosives on a bridge is the problem, not their planning or thoughts about it.

do they have the means is part of what makes a crime a crime, the only way they have the means is with the guidance and supplies from law enforcement.

Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to prove entrapment. For it to be entrapment, the accused would have to prove that they wouldn't have even considered committing the crime without the encouragement of government agents (simply supplying ingredients is insufficient); from what's in the thread I don't think that's the case.

I don't think it was entrapment and I doubt taking these guys off the street is going to deprive society of anything great but it seems like it is one of those cases like with the muslim extremists they keep setting up where the people wouldn't have done anything but sit in their mom's basement and complain about the man without the help of the FBI.

I guess the difference is the expressed desire in this case to blow something up (I'm only going by what's in the thread); I don't know if any of the Muslim extremist cases are similar.

A Dark Evil Omen: Pro Zack: If only the court of public opinion worked that way. instead, all conservatives are racists. and, I guess this means all liberals are terrorist extremists. sorry about it guys WE know it isn't true, but that doesn't count for much.

It's alright. I'm sure as long as we keep doing things like feeding the homeless, getting street kids into better circumstances, helping people against illegal foreclosures, supporting striking workers, setting up radical free clinics for people who can't afford proper health care and so on we can clean away this tarnish.

Remind me again what you rightists do?

First, we try to get your hand out of our pocket. Then we give our own money to feed the homeless, get street kids into better circumstances.... fund healthcare clinics etc.