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2012-05-08 02:15:54 PM
IS HE TIME TRAVELER????
 
2012-05-08 02:30:22 PM
wait until the internet age bro
 
2012-05-08 02:34:40 PM
It would be news if anyone got a patent application rejected today.
 
2012-05-08 02:36:08 PM
Link is farked in record time!
 
2012-05-08 02:36:29 PM
DNRTFA. Was it the reinforced vampire-killing ax?
 
2012-05-08 02:36:33 PM
TFA's servers rejected my request to view TFA.
 
2012-05-08 02:38:39 PM
This is fairly damn amusing :3
 
2012-05-08 02:39:56 PM
Lincoln patented the 500 Internal Server Error?
 
2012-05-08 02:42:11 PM
1845.
 
2012-05-08 02:42:33 PM
It loaded on the second try for me. Interesting stuff.
 
2012-05-08 02:43:09 PM
The juicy part, for those who can't get to the article:

Lincoln was requesting a patent for "The Gazette," a system to "keep People aware of Others in the Town." He laid out a plan where every town would have its own Gazette, named after the town itself. He listed the Springfield Gazette as his Visual Appendix, an example of the system he was talking about. Lincoln was proposing that each town build a centrally located collection of documents where "every Man may have his own page, where he might discuss his Family, his Work, and his Various Endeavors."
 
2012-05-08 02:43:24 PM

GWSuperfan: Lincoln patented the 500 Internal Server Error?


It would explain a lot about his assassination...
 
2012-05-08 02:44:38 PM

Draq: The juicy part, for those who can't get to the article:

Lincoln was requesting a patent for "The Gazette," a system to "keep People aware of Others in the Town." He laid out a plan where every town would have its own Gazette, named after the town itself. He listed the Springfield Gazette as his Visual Appendix, an example of the system he was talking about. Lincoln was proposing that each town build a centrally located collection of documents where "every Man may have his own page, where he might discuss his Family, his Work, and his Various Endeavors."


Holy shiat, it IS analog facebook.
 
2012-05-08 02:45:41 PM
for those who can't get in, Lincoln called it the 'Springfield Gazette' and there is a copy in the Lincoln Museum in Springfield, IL.

It is newspaper-based, instead of internet-based.

Lincoln's prototype featured his picture in the corner, poems, stories and updates on his life. Supposedly, the museum will be issuing a press release with this discovery soon.
 
2012-05-08 02:45:53 PM
holy hell! that is awesome
 
2012-05-08 02:47:53 PM
Holy Previously Living fark.
 
2012-05-08 02:48:25 PM
Lincoln invented an apparatus whereby every Man and Woman and Child could post pictures of their meals, and pose with duckfaces?
 
2012-05-08 02:48:45 PM
Nice work of fiction there.
 
2012-05-08 02:49:51 PM
 
2012-05-08 02:50:09 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste:

Holy shiat, it IS analog facebook.


Actually, it's more analogous to the idea of one's Home Page on the Web, which predates Facebook by, oh, ten years or so.
 
2012-05-08 02:51:37 PM

Theaetetus: Nice work of fiction there.


Is the patent application still on file?
 
2012-05-08 02:52:12 PM

kmoser:

Actually, it's more analogous to the idea of one's Home Page on the Web, which predates Facebook by, oh, ten years or so.


Yes, well, "Abaham Lincoln invented Geocities" isn't nearly as good of a headline. I think we can all agree geocities was a mistake.
 
2012-05-08 02:53:05 PM
VERY clever hoax.
 
2012-05-08 02:53:12 PM

Draq: The juicy part, for those who can't get to the article:

Lincoln was requesting a patent for "The Gazette," a system to "keep People aware of Others in the Town." He laid out a plan where every town would have its own Gazette, named after the town itself. He listed the Springfield Gazette as his Visual Appendix, an example of the system he was talking about. Lincoln was proposing that each town build a centrally located collection of documents where "every Man may have his own page, where he might discuss his Family, his Work, and his Various Endeavors."


So, in other words, a literal facebook. Like the way actual facebooks were before Facebook.

Is our children learning? The answer be "no".
 
2012-05-08 02:54:18 PM
Now, that said, Lincoln does* have an actual patent.

*did?
 
2012-05-08 02:54:54 PM
Sounds more like a blog to me, or a home page as kmoser mentioned above. Why is he even calling this Facebook? I know Myspace, Google+ and others aren't as popular but the article makes it sound like Facebook invented social networking and is the only site that exists.
 
2012-05-08 02:55:19 PM
Does this mean Abe Lincoln is the president again and Zuckerburg has to be encased in concrete in Illinois?
 
2012-05-08 02:55:50 PM
Lincoln was a fairly good poet, also.Link
 
2012-05-08 02:56:18 PM
Wow. Every time I ask myself why I come back to Fark, what with all the crap that flies around here, I get a link like this one. And I thank goodness for people that choose to wander around small Midwestern towns and libraries. And that they can post something about it on the internet. And that a Farker sees it, and the mods greenlight it for us liters.
 
2012-05-08 02:58:02 PM
I wonder how much Facebook payed for that article?
 
2012-05-08 03:00:13 PM
d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net
 
2012-05-08 03:00:24 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Theaetetus: Nice work of fiction there.

Is the patent application still on file?


Not online, but if it existed, it would be in the physical archives, I'm sure.
 
2012-05-08 03:01:17 PM

kmoser: Uchiha_Cycliste:

Holy shiat, it IS analog facebook.

Actually, it's more analogous to the idea of one's Home Page on the Web, which predates Facebook by, oh, ten years or so.


Except for the illusion of privacy with claims you control who gets the content and giving an unknown third party ownership and control of all your personal information.
 
2012-05-08 03:01:53 PM

Theaetetus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Theaetetus: Nice work of fiction there.

Is the patent application still on file?

Not online, but if it existed, it would be in the physical archives, I'm sure.


Just curious why you dismiss it as a work of fiction.
 
2012-05-08 03:03:43 PM
So now people will be blaming Lincoln for the motherfarking Timeline...
 
2012-05-08 03:04:16 PM
So when does lincoln's slave children bloodline get to sue Facebook?
 
2012-05-08 03:06:24 PM
Given the PT Barnum connection, I have to think this is some sort of hoax...
 
2012-05-08 03:08:53 PM
I am going with clever fiction too. I fell for it hook line and sinker, even posted on my FB page... then the P.T. Barnum connection started sinking in - yeah, hoax.
 
2012-05-08 03:12:14 PM
I'm guessing they planned for this to go viral around April 1. It's a hoax.
 
2012-05-08 03:13:57 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Theaetetus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Theaetetus: Nice work of fiction there.

Is the patent application still on file?

Not online, but if it existed, it would be in the physical archives, I'm sure.

Just curious why you dismiss it as a work of fiction.


1) It would have been reported elsewhere in contemporaneous documents, since Lincoln was also the first (and only) President to get a patent. Instead, we get one guy's blog - with a quote from PT Barnum about a sucker born every minute - talking about how he totes saw it, and he wished he had his camera, but here's a partial image that doesn't show anything he says the full image showed.

2) It doesn't look like a patent application figure. Formal drawing requirements were quite stringent at the time (and they kinda still are), since the PTO had to create printing plates for figures.

3) The "profile" photo, according to Wiki, was taken a year later.

4) According to the blog, there "was a simple form letter from the United States Patent Office, stating "Your patent application for 'The Gazette' has been reviewed and denied." The official U.S. seal was stamped and pressed into the paper."
But, after the patent act of 1836, patents underwent examination, with substantive rejections. Maybe such a letter would have been possible pre-1836, but not after that point.
 
2012-05-08 03:17:41 PM
Oh, and of course, "The Gazette" wouldn't have been used as a patent title, since it's not a useful art, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, so there would have been sec. 6 problems.
 
2012-05-08 03:17:44 PM
Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

And that's where it started to get interesting.

Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

Abraham Lincon. Facebook. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:15 PM

Theaetetus: Oh, and of course, "The Gazette" wouldn't have been used as a patent title, since it's not a useful art, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, so there would have been sec. 6 problems.


Interesting. Thanks.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:18 PM
Crap, seemed like a cool story. +1 for making it sorta believable.
Of course I already sent it to my dad so hundreds of people over 60 believe this already.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:42 PM

Skyfrog: Why is he even calling this Facebook? I know Myspace, Google+ and others aren't as popular but the Sky frogs brain makes it sound like Facebook invented social networking and is the only site that exists.


Facebook is the most known. A human brain will fill an envelope with all the other close facimilies.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:51 PM
From the 1836 Act, sec. 7:
But whenever, on such
examination, it shall appear to the Commissioner that the applicant was not the original and first inventor or discoverer
thereof, or that any part of that which is claimed as new had before been invented or discovered, or patented, or
described in any printed publication in this or any foreign country, as aforesaid, or that the description is defective and
insufficient, he shall notify the applicant thereof, giving him, briefly, such information and references as may be useful
in judging of the propriety of renewing his application, or of altering his specification to embrace only that part of the
invention or discovery which is new
.


That's the nail in the coffin, I'd think. That rejection letter would simply not be done.
 
2012-05-08 03:24:11 PM
Wow, holy crap. I thought the headline was joking, but that's pretty much exactly what it was. I don't even use facebook, and that's still amazing.
 
2012-05-08 03:25:21 PM

luktti: Skyfrog: Why is he even calling this Facebook? I know Myspace, Google+ and others aren't as popular but the Sky frogs brain makes it sound like Facebook invented social networking and is the only site that exists.

Facebook is the most known. A human brain will fill an envelope with all the other close facimilies.


They used Facebook because as someone mentioned earlier it makes for a more sensationalist headline for this fake story. In a few years Facebook will be a dead has been site like Myspace and some other service will be popular.
 
2012-05-08 03:26:41 PM

Theaetetus: That's the nail in the coffin, I'd think. That rejection letter would simply not be done.


Right, because

Nightsweat: It would be news if anyone got a patent application rejected today.

 
2012-05-08 03:33:10 PM
Even if the patent were granted, Lincoln was too busy hunting vampires to make the Gazette into a successful business model.
 
2012-05-08 03:35:09 PM
After RTFA, if true, my mind is fairly well blown.
 
2012-05-08 03:38:21 PM
He succeeded at Facehole, however.
 
2012-05-08 03:39:06 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: He succeeded at Facehole, however.


Geez, dude... too soon.
 
2012-05-08 03:42:17 PM

Draq: kmoser:

Actually, it's more analogous to the idea of one's Home Page on the Web, which predates Facebook by, oh, ten years or so.

Yes, well, "Abaham Lincoln invented Geocities" isn't nearly as good of a headline. I think we can all agree geocities was a mistake.


If Lincoln had invented Geocities, Booth would have been hailed as a hero instead of the bad guy. The defense, "he needed killin'" would have been successfully used in his trial.
 
2012-05-08 03:46:23 PM
Biggest troll of the year article OR pretty neat story, time will tell (like by tomorrow AM). FARK should definately follow up on this article.
 
2012-05-08 03:55:04 PM

CUZN_Ovoids: Biggest troll of the year article OR pretty neat story, time will tell (like by tomorrow AM). FARK should definately follow up on this article.


Yep, either an amazing troll or an incredible find.
 
2012-05-08 03:55:23 PM
Heh. It's on ZD now.

But, just as quickly, the Forbes' blog post on it has been pulled.

/as a patent attorney who used to work for a major news organization full of lazy journalists, I'm getting so many kicks out of this story
 
2012-05-08 03:56:48 PM

joshua4: Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

And that's where it started to get interesting.

Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.

Abraham Lincon. Facebook. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah.


no shiat! That article was padded so much I kept scrolling down hoping to find the relevant paragraph. WTF? I don't care if he left his phone at home. I tend to bring my phone everywhere but it's actually quite rare for me to ever use it. It's good to have in case I need it but usually I don't.

I think that makes me more "old school" than just deciding to leave it home one day.
 
2012-05-08 03:57:40 PM

CUZN_Ovoids: Biggest troll of the year article OR pretty neat story, time will tell (like by tomorrow AM). FARK should definately follow up on this article.


I'll give you a hint: Don't bet on "pretty neat story".

Hint: Hoaxer overplayed his hand with inserting Lincoln photo in the alleged original newspaper.
 
2012-05-08 03:59:34 PM
Abe Lincoln
has just ran into some jerk southerner, and will get back at all of them someday. Just gotta figure out how...
Like · Comment · Share
 
2012-05-08 04:01:47 PM
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
― Abraham Lincoln
 
2012-05-08 04:04:47 PM

redcard: VERY clever hoax.


Not really. Al that conveniently missing information:

"Oops, that's cropped, sorry. Oops, that's blurry, sorry. Oops, I can't show you the critical page, sorry."

You have to be pretty damn credulous to fall for this.
 
2012-05-08 04:07:51 PM

Isildur: redcard: VERY clever hoax.

Not really. Al that conveniently missing information:

"Oops, that's cropped, sorry. Oops, that's blurry, sorry. Oops, I can't show you the critical page, sorry."

You have to be pretty damn credulous to fall for this.


"A sucker born..." blah blah blah
 
2012-05-08 04:09:23 PM
Don't believe them.
Don't trust them.
cdn.techi.com
 
2012-05-08 04:22:45 PM
Im tired of Abe Lincoln trying to get his 2nd 15 minutes of fame. let it go man...you didn't invent the facebooks.....
 
2012-05-08 04:24:38 PM
A picture of Lincolns real assassin..... Jeremiah Zuckerberg
www.oceansbridge.com

/He stole Lincolns idea
//secret passed down through the generations
///just waiting to unleash it's fury
 
2012-05-08 04:25:46 PM
One of the article commenters posted a link to the original image, so I'm inclined to say it's a big fat hoax.

members.dandy.net
 
2012-05-08 04:34:57 PM
Anyone suddenly getting a 401 error?
 
2012-05-08 04:35:08 PM
Quote from the comments section:

"Newspapers of the era couldn't reproduce photographs. Until the 1880s or so, photographs had to be turned into engravings before printing. So...yeah, it's bullshiat. Viral marketing for a movie, a hoax, whatever."

Add that to the picture used came four years after the newspaper did it's easy to call this one a hoax. But hey, this is the Internet.
 
2012-05-08 04:37:36 PM

LazarusLong42: Anyone suddenly getting a 401 error?


Yep. Looks like the jig is up.
 
2012-05-08 04:53:06 PM
been along time since i was suckered like this, even for 5 minutes. I must be gettin old...no wait, I am old. shiat.


// rusty zippers, onion on belt, etc.
 
2012-05-08 04:54:23 PM
Hoax. There's no Matt listed as a research assistant in the Lincoln Library staff directory in Springfield Il.
 
2012-05-08 04:56:46 PM
Al Gore is going to be seriously pissed when he finds out.
 
2012-05-08 04:59:05 PM

Walker: IS HE TIME TRAVELER????


Nah; time travel was invented much earlier than that. Just look for US Patent No. 1.

/obscure?
 
2012-05-08 04:59:29 PM
Hoax - he actually invented ghey pron.
 
2012-05-08 05:01:50 PM
Also, the paper is from Springfield, MASSACHUSETTS, not Springfield Illinois. Details, details.
 
2012-05-08 05:04:04 PM

Draq: Yes, well, "Abaham Lincoln invented Geocities" isn't nearly as good of a headline. I think we can all agree geocities was a mistake.


Are you implying that Facebook wasn't a mistake?
 
2012-05-08 05:05:13 PM
Yon Northe's Relationship status with Yon Southe: Tis Complicated
 
2012-05-08 05:08:04 PM
Confirmed fake by lincoln museum.
 
2012-05-08 05:11:54 PM

SlothB77: Forbes has picked up the story.


And quickly deleted it as a hoax.
 
2012-05-08 05:15:24 PM

trippdogg: Hoax - he actually invented ghey pron.


3.bp.blogspot.com

At the Gay Bar
 
2012-05-08 05:16:20 PM

Sun Khan: CUZN_Ovoids: Biggest troll of the year article OR pretty neat story, time will tell (like by tomorrow AM). FARK should definately follow up on this article.

I'll give you a hint: Don't bet on "pretty neat story".

Hint: Hoaxer overplayed his hand with inserting Lincoln photo in the alleged original newspaper.


If a hoax, the reader gets set up by hearing that he left his phone at home, so therefore can't take pictures. Though PT Barnum appears to have known Lincoln.

I dont buy the picture argument as an issue, if somebody wanted to make an example of the idea to submit for clarification for a patent, the example could contain bogus information just to establish a visual layout.
 
2012-05-08 05:19:43 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Draq: The juicy part, for those who can't get to the article:

Lincoln was requesting a patent for "The Gazette," a system to "keep People aware of Others in the Town." He laid out a plan where every town would have its own Gazette, named after the town itself. He listed the Springfield Gazette as his Visual Appendix, an example of the system he was talking about. Lincoln was proposing that each town build a centrally located collection of documents where "every Man may have his own page, where he might discuss his Family, his Work, and his Various Endeavors."

Holy shiat, it IS analog facebook.


To me it sounds like a hybrid of facebook and wikipedia. You can think of it as being more akin to the announcements section in many local newspapers. Lincoln was a tech geek during his lifetime.
 
2012-05-08 05:22:24 PM

Theaetetus: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Theaetetus: Nice work of fiction there.

Is the patent application still on file?

Not online, but if it existed, it would be in the physical archives, I'm sure.


It was allegedly filed after the 1836 fire that destroyed everything, before the 1877 fire that destroyed nothing, and before 1880, when we started issuing applications a Serial Number.

There'd be no easy way to look it up. If it did exist there'd be a microfilm copy in a ominous cave in PA and the paper copy in Springfield.

Also of note is that "The Gazette" or "Official Gazette" is the weekly publication that the USPTO publishes with every single patent that issued the past week. Coincidence?
 
2012-05-08 05:24:38 PM
My Uncle got a patent on a method of filing paperwork to protect intellectual property. Once they realized what was up, they sent him a letter saying it was retracted.
/He could probably still sue...everybody
 
2012-05-08 06:04:26 PM
I was finding the article somewhat interesting (not knowing any of the technical reasons it was impossible) until I got to:

He went on to propose that "each Man may decide if he shall make his page Available to the entire Town, or only to those with whom he has established Family or Friendship."

That pegged by BSometer.
 
2012-05-08 06:38:14 PM
Lincoln did actually receive a patent for a device for lifting boats, making him the only US president to hold a patent. I don't know why people feel the need to make crap up when reality is just as interesting.
 
2012-05-08 07:02:24 PM
I'm calling shenanigans on the claim language. "A system for..." sounds an awful lot like modern means+function claim language that was adopted in the 1950s.
 
2012-05-08 07:25:05 PM
Big deal, Ben Franklin invented lightening.
 
2012-05-08 07:28:52 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-08 07:31:21 PM
www.sanitaryum.com
 
2012-05-08 07:49:37 PM
Read the article. READ IT! If you still think it's true, then hang your head in shame. Seriously.
 
2012-05-08 08:12:40 PM
wallywam1:
Read the article. READ IT! If you still think it's true, then hang your head in shame. Seriously.

Coolest hoax EVER! 10/10 - superb!

www.alaskasbestlodge.com
Quite a haul... I'm the one
second from the left
 
2012-05-08 09:40:12 PM

joshua70448: One of the article commenters posted a link to the original image, so I'm inclined to say it's a big fat hoax.

[members.dandy.net image 640x439]


Also, there was a Springfield Gazette. Although not in Illinois:
link
 
2012-05-08 09:55:03 PM
Status: Going to the theater. brb
 
2012-05-08 10:31:53 PM

Isildur: You have to be pretty damn credulous to fall for this.


With the PT Barnum setup, if you're American you'd have to be farking retarded to fall for this. I give foreigners a pass since they don't know.

Mixolydian Master: Status: Going to the theater. brb


zomg abe duck!!1!!
 
2012-05-08 11:00:06 PM
I was believing it for a moment.

Now, I'm sure it's probably a really good gag. Kudos to the writer. Well done!
 
2012-05-09 12:25:10 AM
Tl;dr
 
2012-05-09 05:23:46 AM

zedcaster: Hoax. There's no Matt listed as a research assistant in the Lincoln Library staff directory in Springfield Il.


There is one.

McCormick, Matthew Administrative Services Stationary Engineer n/a
 
2012-05-09 06:08:53 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: He succeeded at Facehole, however.


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-09 06:53:08 AM
www.everydaynodaysoff.com
 
2012-05-09 07:59:15 AM
I was credulous until about halfway through the article by which time my subconscious was tapping me on the shoulder, muttering something about lollipops and birth rates. Then I clicked over here to see who would first holler "FAKE!"
 
2012-05-09 08:10:59 AM

Nem Wan: Don't believe them.
Don't trust them.
[cdn.techi.com image 174x174]


I'm impressed by the amount of effort it had to take to find the exact screenshot to quote this.


Millennium: Walker: IS HE TIME TRAVELER????

Nah; time travel was invented much earlier than that. Just look for US Patent No. 1.

/obscure?


Huh, hadn't heard of that, but it's pretty neat.
 
2012-05-09 11:33:33 AM

redhook: zedcaster: Hoax. There's no Matt listed as a research assistant in the Lincoln Library staff directory in Springfield Il.

There is one.

McCormick, Matthew Administrative Services Stationary Engineer n/a


Yes, there is one Matt at the Lincoln Library/Museum but as Wikipedia says "A stationary engineer, also called operating engineer or power engineer, is a tradesman who operates heavy machinery and equipment that provide heat, light, climate control and power." Doesn't sound like the guy who would be handling archival material.
 
2012-05-09 01:27:14 PM
The P.T. Barnum stuff at the beginning is the author's way of screaming "I'm making this shiat up. If you actually believe it, you're an idiot!"
 
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