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2012-05-08 02:06:27 PM
I knew a flight medic once. He was a little high strung. One day he beat the daylights out of a vending machine while screaming at it. It ate his $1.25 and didn't give him chips.
 
2012-05-08 02:06:49 PM

Actual Farking: skybreaker: I beat you aren't as ready as you think and would be killed pretty quickly.

I probably just become a collaborator.


I would also engage in some good old fashion profiteering.
 
2012-05-08 02:07:54 PM
No, but sometimes I wouldn't mind if an asteroid would hit and wipe us all out.
 
2012-05-08 02:08:33 PM

Sapper_Topo: Oh god wait til the Liters get ahold of this... Jebus


Cue the ITG Marine Core veterans posting their personal arsenals.
 
2012-05-08 02:09:24 PM
They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.
 
2012-05-08 02:10:12 PM
My aunt is a flight nurse, and I've heard some pretty gruesome stories about a few cases. One guy wasn't wearing a jacket when riding his motorcycle through the mountains, crashed and de-gloved his entire lower arm.
 
2012-05-08 02:11:35 PM
I live on the side of a mountain and at least 2 of my neighbors are full blown Doomsday preppers. So I feel like Id have a pretty good chance. I kid you not my one neighbor has no less than 200 guns and a basement full of ammo. Those neighbors like my cooking so I figure we can work something out.
 
2012-05-08 02:12:32 PM
No, but I've been stuck in traffic for more than an hour without moving and I thought to myself "Man somebody had better have died for this long of delay." Then felt bad for thinking it as a helicopter showed up. Then felt worse because after passing by, it probably was true.
 
2012-05-08 02:12:36 PM

honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.


This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr
 
2012-05-08 02:13:09 PM

Actual Farking: Sapper_Topo: Oh god wait til the Liters get ahold of this... Jebus

Cue the ITG Marine Core veterans posting their personal arsenals.


So does this end up a gun porn thread or a hybird of both your suggestion and my suggestion? I dont even want to contemplate the odds on this.
 
2012-05-08 02:13:55 PM

ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.

This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr


I think we should change it to something more interesting. Let's make it a CJ. Which TFer would you let motorboat you?
 
2012-05-08 02:14:29 PM

Sapper_Topo: I live on the side of a mountain and at least 2 of my neighbors are full blown Doomsday preppers. So I feel like Id have a pretty good chance. I kid you not my one neighbor has no less than 200 guns and a basement full of ammo. Those neighbors like my cooking so I figure we can work something out.


I often wonder what happens when the ammo stockpilers start their house on fire with their woodstove.
 
2012-05-08 02:15:31 PM
When I see a Life Flight helicopter all I can think is, "That poor bastard is getting charged at least $8,000 for that flight."

I was walking around and trying to talk but you assholes pinned me down and slapped me in the helicopter anyway. Thanks for the $11K bill for a busted lip, that I couldn't pay.
 
2012-05-08 02:15:49 PM

honeygrl: ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.

This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr

I think we should change it to something more interesting. Let's make it a CJ. Which TFer would you let motorboat you?


Diogenes could motorboat me anytime.
 
2012-05-08 02:16:36 PM

honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.


Oh don't play innocent, you!
 
2012-05-08 02:16:58 PM
I'd let bigpete53 motorboat my butt.
 
2012-05-08 02:17:05 PM

FunkOut: Sapper_Topo: I live on the side of a mountain and at least 2 of my neighbors are full blown Doomsday preppers. So I feel like Id have a pretty good chance. I kid you not my one neighbor has no less than 200 guns and a basement full of ammo. Those neighbors like my cooking so I figure we can work something out.

I often wonder what happens when the ammo stockpilers start their house on fire with their woodstove.


www.williamsportmd.gov
 
2012-05-08 02:17:11 PM

dramboxf: junkmetal: Would not be surprised at this.

Lots of changes coming down the pike for EMS. A few studies released this year and last year showing that all the paramedic-level ACLS interventions for cardiac arrest really don't have a measurable effect on mortality. With the rising average age of our population bringing increased pressures on the pre-hospital care system, I predict that the right to presume death in the field will shift down from medics to EMT-Basics within 15 years. By this I mean a EMT-B-only crew (two EMTs,) would start CPR in the field, use the AED, and if after 20 minutes no response be allowed to "presume" (not pronounce) death and clear the call rather than transporting the patient to the ER to be flogged on by the MD/RNs.

My $0.02

/climbs down off soapbox


I'd prefer a 'medic that could tube me should I decide to stop breathing. An EMT-B is not going to do that, and bagging doesn't work for a lot of trauma victims.
 
2012-05-08 02:17:18 PM

myschief: honeygrl: ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.

This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr

I think we should change it to something more interesting. Let's make it a CJ. Which TFer would you let motorboat you?

Diogenes could motorboat me anytime.


CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
 
2012-05-08 02:17:52 PM

honeygrl: ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.

This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr

I think we should change it to something more interesting. Let's make it a CJ. Which TFer would you let motorboat you?


Lundyn. Although I'm afraid that my subpar boobies would wreck his pretty face somehow.
 
2012-05-08 02:18:13 PM

flucto: queezyweezel: Google meatspin.

No. I am afraid.


You spin me right round, baby, right round like a record baby, right round round round...

/BE A MAN
//DO IT
//NAO!!1
 
2012-05-08 02:18:39 PM

ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: ToxicMunkee: honeygrl: They always green the boring ones. They never green the ones where things go full anal/period blood/fetish porn though. I don't think they want the liters seeing how sick you people really are.

This one is especially boring. "I saw a helicopter and thought something!" Hurr durr

I think we should change it to something more interesting. Let's make it a CJ. Which TFer would you let motorboat you?

Lundyn. Although I'm afraid that my subpar boobies would wreck his pretty face somehow.


I think I've already been mentally motorboated by Lundyn at some point.
 
2012-05-08 02:19:02 PM

honeygrl: I'd let bigpete53 motorboat my butt.


...must...resist...obvious...fart...joke....rrrrrrrghhhh!!1...
 
2012-05-08 02:20:57 PM

Sapper_Topo: Actual Farking: Sapper_Topo: Oh god wait til the Liters get ahold of this... Jebus

Cue the ITG Marine Core veterans posting their personal arsenals.

So does this end up a gun porn thread or a hybird of both your suggestion and my suggestion? I dont even want to contemplate the odds on this.


Maybe it'll just veer off into 80s nostalgia.
 
2012-05-08 02:21:07 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: No, but sometimes I wouldn't mind if an asteroid would hit and wipe us all out.


patrick swayze wasn't in that one ...
 
2012-05-08 02:33:03 PM

honeygrl: I'd let bigpete53 motorboat my butt.


Hmmmmm. Interesting. I shall cogitate upon this and email you my hypothesis.
 
2012-05-08 02:36:15 PM

Diogenes: I wonder where the decision to be more liberal in greenlighting TFDs came from.


farm4.staticflickr.com?
 
2012-05-08 02:37:06 PM
I'd disappear into the American wilds for weeks, gathering supplies and weapons - building shelters for my fellow freedom fighters.

Then I'd die of dysentery.
 
2012-05-08 02:40:59 PM
honeygrl just got a new farky
 
2012-05-08 02:41:36 PM

tsalaroth: I'd disappear into the American wilds for weeks, gathering supplies and weapons - building shelters for my fellow freedom fighters.

Then I'd die of dysentery.


You shot 1,460-lbs of bison but were only able to carry 100-lbs.
 
2012-05-08 02:42:26 PM
C. Caulk it and float across.
 
2012-05-08 02:43:54 PM

myschief: C. Caulk it and float across.


Who?
 
2012-05-08 02:57:52 PM

tsalaroth: I'd disappear into the American wilds for weeks, gathering supplies and weapons - building shelters for my fellow freedom fighters.

Then I'd die of dysentery.


I think you've pretty much got it there.
 
2012-05-08 02:59:59 PM
As an old helicopter crewman myself, I look up at helicopters and think "Ah. There goes a insert helicopter type here. They must be insert what I think they are doing here.

For example, I'll look up and say to myself, "Ah, there goes a Bell Jet Ranger. That one looks like the NBC bird, they must be doing a shot for the afternoon traffic report", or "Ah, there's an H-53E headed up the coast to Pendelton" , or "Ah, a Coast Guard HH-60. They must be following the railroad tracks to find their way back to the coast again."
 
2012-05-08 03:02:30 PM

dhambrick: I'd prefer a 'medic that could tube me should I decide to stop breathing. An EMT-B is not going to do that, and bagging doesn't work for a lot of trauma victims.


Studies are showing a lot of evidence that what you state you desire above would not be advantageous for your health.

The most recent studies are showing that aggressive, correctly-performed BLS is going to be better for your outcome than ALS. A lot of it has to do with WHO is providing your EMS. For example, in a Fire Department-based non-transport EMS system (where the FD is the medic but the physical ambulance is provided by a 3rd party/private company,) you would really, really prefer BLS over ALS especially when talking about intubation.

It has to do with the number of tubes a FD medic is going to get. ET intubation is one of those skills that can rapidly deteriorate without a lot of practice. Some other clinical studies (CT, NY, if I remember right) are showing a really crappy record on pre-hospital ET tube placement. (A possible solution would be nationwide adoption of capnography...) There are some other, non-ET airways that are getting some traction (King airway, etc.)

Areas that have 3rd-Service EMS (Boston, for example) show a much higher percentage of correctly-placed tubes by medics. But even Boston recognizes that ALS for every call is not a good idea. For the entire city, there are only 6 ALS ambulances on any given shift. The rest are all BLS ambulances.

Studies are also showing that the cocktail of drugs that medics give on cardiac arrest cases (ACLS) has no profound impact on mortality, and in fact, the time-on-scene to start the IV, get the tube and dump drugs on board might be better served getting the patient to the ER/cath lab.

Studies in trauma are showing that two large-bore IVs and all the fluids you can get on board to hemodynamically stabilize a patient aren't only not helping, but might be contributing to bad outcomes.

Yes, in some trauma cases, getting a tube is a requirement for a patent airway. However, statistics are showing that if someone is that farked up from a trauma (50mph into a tree, for example) their chances of surviving are slim indeed. Where I live, the medic protocols allow for non-start of resuscitation (on-site medic presumes death) for any traumatic arrest. So, if you drive into a tree here in Sonoma County, and you have no heartbeat when the medic shows up, they're generally not going to even attempt to resuscitate you.
 
2012-05-08 03:14:56 PM

dramboxf: dhambrick: I'd prefer a 'medic that could tube me should I decide to stop breathing. An EMT-B is not going to do that, and bagging doesn't work for a lot of trauma victims.

Studies are showing a lot of evidence that what you state you desire above would not be advantageous for your health.

wall o'text...


I was an EMT-B and an MP in the Army for years, and been in various forms of nursing (including Emergency and Critical Care) since '96. There are shades of grey in everything. and yes, in the majority of calls, a cop and a flight attendant could do whatever needs to be done to get the victims to the ED.

However, there are cases where the ability to recognize decompensation in patients and initiate the appropriate protocols in patients can make the difference between making it to the ED with gas exchange and filling somebody's stomach with air because all the bagging is doing is bypassing a bronchus full of aspirate.

Just as the majority of most EDs volume consists of clinic type visits but trauma centers are required to be appropriately staffed, so should EMS. Triage the calls, but have trained staff available for the calls that need them.
 
2012-05-08 03:18:52 PM
No, I usually say "who is the ghetto bird looking for now" and then I lock my doors in case whoever it is they're chasing comes looking for a place to hide. Twice this month already.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:13 PM
Every year the Blue Angels do a Memorial Day weekend shows at Jones Beach, which in plane terms is seconds from my house. I usually find myself off and at home on the Friday before, when they practice. I always forget it's Blue Angels day, and when they fly over there's that panicked second of "WHAT THE F*CK IS GOING ON?!?!" before I remember and laugh at myself.

Anyways, I got immune to helicopters after working for a few months in a building right along the Hudson near the tip of Manhattan. They just become part of the scenery.
 
2012-05-08 03:27:02 PM

dhambrick: I was an EMT-B [...] for years


Me, too.

Most of my half-assed "predictions" are based on the cost model. We can debate back and forth about what is the best possible EMS system. I'm merely stating what I think the probable future EMS system is going to look like because of the increased pressure on EMS that will be placed by the Boomers dying off.

I couple that with a lot of studies that have come out and are coming out debunking the so-called "need" for air ambulances, the ones that have totally debunked the Golden Hour, the studies that show that a lot of what we believe are medically efficacious policies and procedures and protocols are in fact, not.

Boston EMS for one has shown that even in case of severe trauma, razor-sharp BLS skills, applied correctly, have a marked increase on mortality and morbidity, more than ALS/ACLS.

I, for one, hold the opinion that we do a disservice to our BLS providers in "mixed" systems by regaling them to the position of "driver/stretcher bearer." Sure, that's a blanket statement and I'm sure there are TONS of EMS systems were the mixed crews (one EMT, one medic,) value the BLS provider and mentor him or her to become an even better provider.

Just, ya know, none that I've ever actually seen after 25+ years of doing this.
 
2012-05-08 03:29:08 PM

dramboxf: have a marked increase on mortality and morbidity, more than ALS/ACLS.


I mean to say a marked increase in positive outcome.

Dammit.
 
2012-05-08 03:41:51 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: For example, I'll look up and say to myself, "Ah, there goes a Bell Jet Ranger. That one looks like the NBC bird, they must be doing a shot for the afternoon traffic report", or "Ah, there's an H-53E headed up the coast to Pendelton" , or "Ah, a Coast Guard HH-60. They must be following the railroad tracks to find their way back to the coast again."


Lulz.
 
2012-05-08 03:47:09 PM

dramboxf: dhambrick: I was an EMT-B [...] for years

Me, too......

I, for one, hold the opinion that we do a disservice to our BLS providers in "mixed" systems by regaling them to the position of "driver/stretcher bearer." Sure, that's a blanket statement and I'm sure there are TONS of EMS systems were the mixed crews (one EMT, one medic,) value the BLS provider and mentor him or her to become an even better provider.

Just, ya know, none that I've ever actually seen after 25+ years of doing this.


There will always those that look upon non 'medics as bus drivers, (and some of them are, just as there are less than optimal folks in every profession), but I would like to think that most mixed teams would develop into that, teams.

There's a lot held sacred in the world of EMS, some worthy of it, some not. But there are lots of opportunities for improvements based on objective, evidence-based research just as there is in other areas of medicine. And, as usual, cost will be the deciding factor instead of common sense.
 
2012-05-08 04:05:32 PM
I just think of Vic Morrow.
 
2012-05-08 04:12:38 PM

xanadian: /BE A MAN
//DO IT
//NAO!!1


This is part of the "agenda" isn't it? HMM? HMMMM?
 
2012-05-08 04:36:32 PM

BKITU: Diogenes: BKITU: LOLGREEN

I wonder where the decision to be more liberal in greenlighting TFDs came from.

I'm guessing Drew is trying to drum up more TF business by showing the world what a hep-cat place TFD is. "Hey, kids! Do you want to fling shiat at a bunch of strangers? It's only $5 a month!"


As a liter, I see these posts and think, "WTF is this crap?!?! Is this what people are paying $5/month for? Suckers!!"
 
2012-05-08 04:40:46 PM
a link to Wikipedia gets approved, but this doesnt
http://gawker.com/5908532/horrific-footage-of-mentally-ill-homeless-m a ns-fatal-police-beating-surfaces-online
 
2012-05-08 04:40:53 PM
everytime I see a helicopter, I just stare at it thinking, 'what an elegant machine' and marvel at the brilliance of human technology.

however, whenever I'm driving through the middle of nowhere, I always think some giant creature is going to emerge from the earth and go on a rampage.
 
2012-05-08 04:42:38 PM

eyehate: I have never seen a Hind in person.

Russian Bears flew over my carrier without communicating and we manned guns and whatnot.

But no Hinds.


Echo Charlie has it under control:

www.usscoralsea.net
 
2012-05-08 04:42:43 PM
I live in a neighbor hood full of preppers, and doomers.
On the plus side, I can pick up ammo at the point of sale, right on the counter next to the cash register in any store in any town I drive through all day long.
On the down side, these farkers have the ammo so jacked up, I can't go plinking with anything other than 22s, because any other load is jacked up. Used to be able to cook off a box of magnums once a week, and that's when I was poor.
And if you don't get in your range time, you lose your game.
These freaks are just itching for the big takeover and what not and red dawn would just about have them spooging in their outhouses.
Frikking doomers and preppers. Everwhur.
Just for once, I'd like a nice couple to move into the neighborhood. Couple of homos, or black folk, or lebinems. Of course, they would probably go native and end up shooting the fark out of any decent timber near their house as soon as they found out it is legal in this neighborhood. Who the fark wouldn't?
On the up side, I'm not too worried about coyotes since we piss all over our ranges drinkin' beer, and piss in our yards, and them coydawgs relate boom boom to pee pee now. So there's that.
 
2012-05-08 04:44:02 PM

flucto: что за хуйня?


Exactly, bro.
That and Spanish up here in Franklin county.
 
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