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(Starpulse)   The Beastie Boys hit with copyright lawsuit. Hologram MCA is *pissed*   ( starpulse.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Adam Yauch, Mca, car thief, Southern District of New York  
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7238 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 08 May 2012 at 2:52 PM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-05-08 02:25:35 PM  
Wow, this case is so important, the scumbag record label waited over 20 years to sue!
 
2012-05-08 02:43:46 PM  
I hope this lawsuit is....mmmmm, DROPPED!
 
2012-05-08 02:58:36 PM  
I wonder if Tuf America is the music industry's version of a patent troll. It would seem to me this claim would have been brought up long ago.
 
2012-05-08 03:00:19 PM  
MCA's death reminded them that they meant to serve them 20 years ago.
 
2012-05-08 03:01:10 PM  
philshirakawa.files.wordpress.com

Get his jar ready!
 
2012-05-08 03:09:10 PM  
Fact is: The Beastie Boys "sampled" a lot of music back then, including Led Zeppelin. What exactly makes it "illegal"? Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen'shiat Pressure for Ice, Ice Baby. Just how many notes are necessary to make something "illegal" anyway?
 
2012-05-08 03:10:56 PM  
This is incredibly lame.
 
2012-05-08 03:11:23 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Fact is: The Beastie Boys "sampled" a lot of music back then, including Led Zeppelin. What exactly makes it "illegal"? Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen'shiat Pressure for Ice, Ice Baby. Just how many notes are necessary to make something "illegal" anyway?


Doesn't matter. It's their material, and they must pay for their material.

/fark the record labels
//That's why Trent Reznor got the fark out
 
2012-05-08 03:14:55 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I hope this lawsuit is....mmmmm, DROPPED!


THIS!!
Kick it!!
 
2012-05-08 03:19:22 PM  
Two of the songs in the suit came from Paul's Boutique. I'm hard pressed to think of an album that contained as much sampling as PB. It has a website to help keep track of them all.

Paul's Boutique(pops)
 
2012-05-08 03:29:29 PM  
And here I thought MCA's family wanted money.
 
2012-05-08 03:33:23 PM  
He had a beard like a billy goat.
 
2012-05-08 03:36:06 PM  
They've been through this before (Newton v. Diamond). Their lawyers are likely very well versed in the relevant laws and know how to defend this sort of lawsuit. It'll probably be settled out of court for something trivial (song-writing credit and a few thousand dollars or the like)
 
2012-05-08 03:40:52 PM  
See, personally, I wouldn't want to go out like that.
 
2012-05-08 03:47:26 PM  
This is not a repeat from forever ago when sampling was declared fair use.
 
2012-05-08 03:47:44 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Wow, this case is so important, the scumbag record label waited over 20 years to sue!


This. For fark's sake.
 
2012-05-08 03:52:58 PM  
I guess they're going to have to fight for their (copy)right?
 
2012-05-08 03:54:33 PM  

rudemix: Two of the songs in the suit came from Paul's Boutique. I'm hard pressed to think of an album that contained as much sampling as PB. It has a website to help keep track of them all.

Paul's Boutique(pops)


Star Pulse should hire you. They're a little short on details.
 
2012-05-08 03:58:43 PM  

rudemix: Two of the songs in the suit came from Paul's Boutique. I'm hard pressed to think of an album that contained as much sampling as PB. It has a website to help keep track of them all.

Paul's Boutique(pops)


3 Feet High and Rising was sample rich... but I never bothered to count.
 
2012-05-08 03:59:38 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I hope this lawsuit is....mmmmm, DROPPED!


+1 internets to you fine sir!
 
2012-05-08 04:13:33 PM  
i see no problem of this... Strike while the iron's hot... The iron is most hot when a songmaker dies... Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston songs increased in price on iTunes the moment they died.

They're the ones who got stolen from. Let them sue...

The same people mad at this are the same people who get mad at Jimmy Page for pilfering 50 year old blues songs which in turn were pilfered from uncopyrighted slave chants.
 
2012-05-08 04:15:55 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Queen'shiat


Band name alert!
 
2012-05-08 04:27:31 PM  
Good I hope bands start suing the shiat out each other. Raise the copyright derp to 15 until we scrap the whole thing
 
2012-05-08 04:31:50 PM  

karmaceutical: rudemix: Two of the songs in the suit came from Paul's Boutique. I'm hard pressed to think of an album that contained as much sampling as PB. It has a website to help keep track of them all.

Paul's Boutique(pops)

3 Feet High and Rising was sample rich... but I never bothered to count.


"Nation of Millions" springs immediately to mind.

But "Boutique" was way more spastic with them.
 
2012-05-08 04:41:53 PM  
HopScotchNSoda: He had a beard like a billy goat.

Oo-wa! Oo-wa!
 
2012-05-08 04:45:01 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen'shiat Pressure for Ice, Ice Baby.


That was totally different. Their song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding." And his song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding... dah."

That's like a completely different song.
 
2012-05-08 04:50:55 PM  

Another Government Employee: I wonder if Tuf America is the music industry's version of a patent troll. It would seem to me this claim would have been brought up long ago.


Possibly. Google searches bring up a whole bunch of nuthin, other than articles related to this story.

/boules
 
2012-05-08 04:52:22 PM  
They need to stop sniffing the coke and start smoking the sensimillia.
 
2012-05-08 04:55:03 PM  

GreenAdder: HAMMERTOE: Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen'shiat Pressure for Ice, Ice Baby.

That was totally different. Their song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding." And his song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding... dah."

That's like a completely different song.


That's actually exactly how Ice described it in an interview I remember seeing back in the day. I just thought "Um...I like Ice Ice Baby and even I know that's a bad excuse."
 
2012-05-08 04:56:11 PM  

karmaceutical: rudemix: Two of the songs in the suit came from Paul's Boutique. I'm hard pressed to think of an album that contained as much sampling as PB. It has a website to help keep track of them all.

Paul's Boutique(pops)

3 Feet High and Rising was sample rich... but I never bothered to count.


Paul's Boutique has many more samples than 3 Feet High and Rising

/3 Feet High and Rising is top 5 maybe top 3 albums all time for me personally, just absolutely love it
 
2012-05-08 05:01:25 PM  
Pauls Boutique contains the most innovative and pervasive use of sampling, period. There were no laws against it then, and lawsuits were considered and dropped. The chances of this suit succeeding are really quite slim, except for perhaps getting some liner notes added for each of the samples and some cash in a settlement.

A cash settlement, however, would burn and stink to high heaven. It's stupidly late, and should be dismissed by the courts posthaste.
 
2012-05-08 05:02:34 PM  
I'm not sure about 'most', and far too lazy to do my own research, but the word on the street back when it was released claimed that DJ Shadow's Endtroducing was made from over 10,000 samples.


/pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.
 
2012-05-08 05:06:17 PM  

Phantom_Spaceman: /pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.


I may have read it on the PB website years ago, but IIRC there's actually twelve bars of original music on the album, distributed between three songs.
 
2012-05-08 05:21:04 PM  
last bongo in belgium

that is super dope to find.
 
2012-05-08 05:21:08 PM  

Phantom_Spaceman: I'm not sure about 'most', and far too lazy to do my own research, but the word on the street back when it was released claimed that DJ Shadow's Endtroducing was made from over 10,000 samples.


/pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.


I still don't know which one/where is the Nirvana sample.

/He totally fell off but who cares?! He made "Endtroducing!"
 
2012-05-08 05:24:17 PM  

dj_spanmaster: Phantom_Spaceman: /pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.

I may have read it on the PB website years ago, but IIRC there's actually twelve bars of original music on the album, distributed between three songs.


And for this they got into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?
 
2012-05-08 05:26:37 PM  
These guys just get the memo that hip hop and electronica sampled hella beats in the 80s without clearance? If any band can deal with sample clearance and the laws pertaining to that, it would be a super OG, awesome sampling group like Beastie Boys.
 
2012-05-08 05:29:20 PM  

chewielouie: And for this they got into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?


You might want to know that in their albums after Paul's Boutique, they started playing live instruments a lot more. Sabotage is an obvious example.
 
2012-05-08 05:30:48 PM  

chewielouie: dj_spanmaster: Phantom_Spaceman: /pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.

I may have read it on the PB website years ago, but IIRC there's actually twelve bars of original music on the album, distributed between three songs.

And for this they got into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?


The twelve bars bother you? You know they had albums other than Paul's Boutique, right?

PB is actually pretty amazing, and thoroughly enjoyable. Imagine taking clips from all available movies and television shows and building a cohesive film from it. That's not a valid apples-to-apples metaphor because the actors/characters shifting would cause confusion, but it does illustrate the challenge of what they did.
 
2012-05-08 05:32:19 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen


no no no, Vanilla Ice's version clearly has an extra 'dum' in it!
 
2012-05-08 05:33:33 PM  

Philly: no no no, Vanilla Ice's version clearly has an extra 'dum' in it!


It's not the same!

/still think Ice had a point.
 
2012-05-08 05:36:06 PM  
chewielouie


And for this they got into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?

They probably got in for Licensed to Ill, Paul's Boutique, Check Your Head, Ill Communication, The In Sounds from the Way Out, Hello Nasty, To the Five Boroughs, The Mix-up and Hot Sauce Committee Part II.

/this guy geeks out more than I do: some dude dissecting all the samples
 
2012-05-08 05:48:12 PM  

dj_spanmaster: chewielouie: dj_spanmaster: Phantom_Spaceman: /pretty sure the whole album contained nothing but samples.

I may have read it on the PB website years ago, but IIRC there's actually twelve bars of original music on the album, distributed between three songs.

And for this they got into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?

The twelve bars bother you? You know they had albums other than Paul's Boutique, right?

PB is actually pretty amazing, and thoroughly enjoyable. Imagine taking clips from all available movies and television shows and building a cohesive film from it. That's not a valid apples-to-apples metaphor because the actors/characters shifting would cause confusion, but it does illustrate the challenge of what they the Dust Brothers did.


FTFY

Beasties added the lyrics.
 
2012-05-08 05:48:56 PM  

Philly: HAMMERTOE: Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen

no no no, Vanilla Ice's version clearly has an extra 'dum-dum' in it!


Fixed.

/goes for the simple "dum-dum" joke
 
2012-05-08 05:59:50 PM  
Wut? WutDafuK? Gonna have DIG that joo, gonna DIG that joo, gottaGonna DIG that joo, OUT!OUT!OUT!OUT!

DrMca, he gonna say, gotta dig that joo out, gotta check 'em out, yea we do.

DrMca, he gonna say, gotta dig that joo out, gotta check 'em out, yea we do.

Gottafind, IFheClean, if HEblinD, got 2 party lyke no 2marrow.

copyright NOT OK, IT"S WUT I SAY!!!!! JOWWWWWWWZZZZZZZERS!
 
2012-05-08 06:27:55 PM  
Chewbacca defense. Case closed.

RIP MCA
 
2012-05-08 06:35:35 PM  

CanuckInCA: MCA's death reminded them that they meant to serve them 20 years ago.


T.rex: i see no problem of this... Strike while the iron's hot... The iron is most hot when a songmaker dies... Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston songs increased in price on iTunes the moment they died.


From TFA:

The papers were filed at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on Thursday, just one day before Yauch, also known as MCA, plunged the music world into shock and mourning by losing his three-year battle with cancer.

So they're psychic and they knew he was going to die the next day?
 
2012-05-08 06:40:38 PM  
Hollogram MCA fo' da win.

Yo, where mah MCA hollogram at?
 
2012-05-08 06:43:06 PM  

killershark: GreenAdder: HAMMERTOE: Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen'shiat Pressure for Ice, Ice Baby.

That was totally different. Their song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding." And his song went "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding... dah."

That's like a completely different song.

That's actually exactly how Ice described it in an interview I remember seeing back in the day. I just thought "Um...I like Ice Ice Baby and even I know that's a bad excuse."


THATSTHEJOKE.jpg
 
2012-05-08 06:50:39 PM  
Actually Paul's Boutique was one of the last rap albums that masterfully, legally sampled clips from other tunes. They specifically made a law against it shortly thereafter. That's when we started getting the rap guys with a beat and a couple notes from a synthesizer making up the entire beat. See: Nelly, Usher, etc
 
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