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2012-05-08 12:10:37 PM  
Giggity
 
2012-05-08 12:12:01 PM  
So pretty much what I gathered was anywhere is dangerous.
 
2012-05-08 12:12:54 PM  
If you're dumb enough to not only use a debit card, but also allow it to be used without a PIN, and then hand it to criminals, well, that's exactly the outcome you should be expecting. Next up, that e-mail from Nigeria may not be entirely legit.
 
2012-05-08 12:13:54 PM  
Places where narcotics can be hidden
 
2012-05-08 12:16:24 PM  
This had better not turn into some kind of degrading thread where there is nothing but a bunch of pictures posted of women's butts.

I'll check back later to make sure this hasn't happened.
 
2012-05-08 12:17:04 PM  
Was hoping for an Alex Trebek drug/prostitution scandal.
 
2012-05-08 12:25:18 PM  
nice headline
 
2012-05-08 12:25:21 PM  
Sounds like someone didn't even bother to go to Wikipedia for their research.
 
2012-05-08 12:26:12 PM  
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2012-05-08 12:28:36 PM  
Don't use PIN-based transactions if you can avoid it. Use your debit card as a credit card. Signature-based transactions have better legal protections than PIN-based ones. You can be made whole much more easily and quickly when a fraudulent transaction was signature-based, and if your card is skimmed but you didn't provide your PIN, you're in better shape.

I don't even know my debit card PIN.

/had card skimmed at McDonald's a few monhts ago.
//transactions were killed before they even came out of my account by automatic fraud prevention.
///wouldn't have worked if it was done with a PIN.
 
2012-05-08 12:43:41 PM  
Most banks now allow you to set up alerts on your accounts so that you can get text and/or email alerts about activity. I have all of my accounts set up to send me an alert for any transaction. So activity like this can be spotted very quickly.

Chase has been very good over the years at spotting fradulent activity. I used my debit card at a barbecue restaurant in Sacramento and the next day someone tried to buy almost $500.00 worth of groceries in Michigan. The only thing that stopped it was that I had covered the signature panel of my card with a label and retyped the security code scrambled. They tried to use the bogus code. The decline and the difference in geography threw up red flags.
 
2012-05-08 12:51:33 PM  
I'll take Anal Bum Cover for 400, Trebek
 
2012-05-08 01:03:00 PM  

groppet: So pretty much what I gathered was anywhere is dangerous.


Not everywhere. Only ATMs, gas pumps, restaurants, and online.

Sears is still cool.
 
2012-05-08 01:12:33 PM  
Camelback Chevron 7th St and Camelback Rd Phoenix.

Swipe your card there and you will have charges on your card from the indian reservation up north.
 
2012-05-08 01:12:52 PM  
What, might this stripper's ass look like?
 
2012-05-08 01:13:26 PM  

Cyclometh: Don't use PIN-based transactions if you can avoid it. Use your debit card as a credit card. Signature-based transactions have better legal protections than PIN-based ones. You can be made whole much more easily and quickly when a fraudulent transaction was signature-based, and if your card is skimmed but you didn't provide your PIN, you're in better shape.

I don't even know my debit card PIN.

/had card skimmed at McDonald's a few monhts ago.
//transactions were killed before they even came out of my account by automatic fraud prevention.
///wouldn't have worked if it was done with a PIN.


What about just using a credit card (with rewards, preferably) and paying it off every month?
 
2012-05-08 01:17:35 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro:
What about just using a credit card (with rewards, preferably) and paying it off every month?


That works also. All depends on your preferences; not everyone has a credit card or wants one. All I meant was that by doing things as a CC transaction you get the card provider's fraud protection guarantees, which you don't get for PIN-based transactions.
 
2012-05-08 01:24:56 PM  
When I'm in the market for a good thorough beat down, I always like to skip the middlewoman and just run it through the bouncer's ass.
 
2012-05-08 01:30:43 PM  
Things that taste like Taco Bell's Dorito Taco
 
2012-05-08 01:47:17 PM  

Cyclometh: Mitch Taylor's Bro:
What about just using a credit card (with rewards, preferably) and paying it off every month?

That works also. All depends on your preferences; not everyone has a credit card or wants one. All I meant was that by doing things as a CC transaction you get the card provider's fraud protection guarantees, which you don't get for PIN-based transactions.


Trudat. I just like getting a cut of each transaction. I'm actually looking for a good MC or Visa cashback card because all of this skimmer stuff has me using my debit card less and my Discover card isn't accepted everywhere.
 
2012-05-08 01:51:18 PM  
FTFA: "It was, hurtful to think here I'm a single mother raising two children and someone, they don't know who the victims are, these scammers," said Debrosse.

It's not that they don't know who you are, it's that they don't CARE.
 
2012-05-08 01:55:32 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Camelback Chevron 7th St and Camelback Rd Phoenix.

Swipe your card there and you will have charges on your card from the indian reservation up north.


Holy crap, really? I'm pretty sure I've been there but nothing bad came of it.

/wipes forehead
 
2012-05-08 02:08:24 PM  

JDAT: This had better not turn into some kind of degrading thread where there is nothing but a bunch of pictures posted of women's butts.

I'll check back later to make sure this hasn't happened.


Yes, we wouldn't want that, would we?
www.trilobite.org
Oh, yes we would.
 
2012-05-08 02:12:21 PM  
I once had a fraudulent charge show up on my statement. I googled it to find out that this same charge was showing up on a lot of people's cards. I called the bank to get the charge reversed (which after filling out all of the appropriate paperwork they did), but had to ask, can't you just block these charges once you have identified the source? It can't be too hard. Apparently it is.
 
2012-05-08 02:31:17 PM  

ThrowYourHatredDown: I once had a fraudulent charge show up on my statement. I googled it to find out that this same charge was showing up on a lot of people's cards. I called the bank to get the charge reversed (which after filling out all of the appropriate paperwork they did), but had to ask, can't you just block these charges once you have identified the source? It can't be too hard. Apparently it is.


In many cases, the banks' agreement with Visa/MasterCard don't allow them to cancel a transaction that's been successfully authorized. The merchant can still request it be deleted or cancelled, though. That's why the anti fraud systems are so aggressive.
 
2012-05-08 04:32:07 PM  
You would think by now the CC companies and banks would figure out some better protective measures.
 
2012-05-08 04:36:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
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2012-05-08 05:27:50 PM  

groppet: You would think by now the CC companies and banks would figure out some better protective measures.


It shouldn't even be a magnetic strip anymore. it should be a chip that takes the amount, point of sale unit unit ID, and timestamp, and digitally signs it all together based on private key.

The chip's programming of course, should not be modifiable after its initialized-- once some register is flipped, all IO from the chip should be disabled other than inputing sale sum, time, and register ID, and spitting out signatures.

It doesn't even need an internal clock, just on-chip persistent memory so it maintains its state. If someone tries to send the bank the same signature twice, the bank would know it's fraud.

Why magnetic strips with fixed codes are still used is beyond me.
 
2012-05-08 05:37:54 PM  

Isildur: groppet: You would think by now the CC companies and banks would figure out some better protective measures.

It shouldn't even be a magnetic strip anymore. it should be a chip that takes the amount, point of sale unit unit ID, and timestamp, and digitally signs it all together based on private key.

The chip's programming of course, should not be modifiable after its initialized-- once some register is flipped, all IO from the chip should be disabled other than inputing sale sum, time, and register ID, and spitting out signatures.

It doesn't even need an internal clock, just on-chip persistent memory so it maintains its state. If someone tries to send the bank the same signature twice, the bank would know it's fraud.

Why magnetic strips with fixed codes are still used is beyond me.


I assume you'll personally fund the replacement of POS devices across the country that use magnetic strip technology?
 
2012-05-08 06:33:54 PM  
Something tells me you guys talking about credit card transactions need to get out more.

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2012-05-08 08:48:23 PM  

Cyclometh: I assume you'll personally fund the replacement of POS devices across the country that use magnetic strip technology?



It should have been phased in starting years ago. Smart cards have existed for decades now. Not years, decades. Banks have considered dealing with the problem by using chips for at least a decade.and a half. Given normal POS unit turnover, you don't think that had the banks started more than a decade ago, it could have been done by now without enormous needless expense for vendors?

Ok, I was being hyperbolic: It's not "beyond me" why a new system hasn't been implemented. They must have crunched the numbers and found that the amount of losses they were liable for had yet to rise to the level where a changeover made sense to them. It's still worth doing.
 
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