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(ABC)   Internet wine vendors are failing to check customer IDs allowing teens to by-pass the guy outside 7-11   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 56
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-05-08 11:47:02 AM
Delivery companies leave signature required packages of valuable, stealable stuff without getting a signature. Delivery companies leave a "we missed you" note without ringing the door bell. The difference in this case is, when they don't follow procedure laws may have been broken. Some 20 year old could drink a glass of wine.
 
2012-05-08 11:48:11 AM
I think you just made the OBVIOUS tag feel lonely and unloved.
 
2012-05-08 11:48:21 AM
The horror.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:15 AM
moviesmedia.ign.com

That guy rules.
 
2012-05-08 12:06:46 PM

ZAZ: Delivery companies leave signature required packages of valuable, stealable stuff without getting a signature. Delivery companies leave a "we missed you" note without ringing the door bell. The difference in this case is, when they don't follow procedure laws may have been broken. Some 20 year old could drink a glass of wine.


At least they didn't see a nipple.
 
2012-05-08 12:23:45 PM
TFA: Williams added that parents should also be aware of how easy it is has beem to purchase alcohol online forever

FIFTA
 
2012-05-08 12:46:09 PM
More of a img1.fark.net
 
2012-05-08 12:47:39 PM
FTFA: "Children can also hide online purchases from parents by using prepaid cards they can buy with cash."

Well than clearly the only solution is to ban the sale of gift cards. Duh!!!

Alright, in all seriousness, there are problems with this Suburban/PTA mom fear mongering news piece that I am not buying: Kids/Teens seek immediate gratification and this seems like an awful lot of effort to get some somewhat pricy alcohol. I am not saying that teens are lazy and wont get creative in order to get farked up...but if they are looking to get farked up, there are far easier options than buying gift cards, ordering shiat online, then waiting for delivery, then coordinating the delivery when mom/dad are not home.
 
2012-05-08 03:42:00 PM
Oh my god!!! Kids are drinking!!!

Please, I'm fine with this assuming theyre good students, not driving and using condoms.
 
2012-05-08 03:47:13 PM
Back in myyy day, we had get fake IDs to buy Boone's Farm and we liked it!
 
2012-05-08 03:48:43 PM
OMG! OH NOES!


/Meh... Teens are going to drink... Smoke weed and fornicate. This is news?
 
2012-05-08 03:48:44 PM
Eliminate age verification.

Problem solved. With the millions you save, you can educate people on why they shouldn't act like assclowns when they drink and work toward more effective drug and alcohol programs.
 
2012-05-08 03:50:02 PM

hdhale: Eliminate age verification.

Problem solved. With the millions you save, you can educate people on why they shouldn't act like assclowns when they drink and work toward more effective drug and alcohol programs.


Survey says:

Butthurt moms
 
2012-05-08 03:50:56 PM
I was one of those kids hanging out outside of the store with $6 in my pocket asking the shady people walking by if they'd buy me a case of Heidelberg so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-05-08 03:52:14 PM
Without even reading the story, I know this is a problem with the delivery companies. An old employer used to have wine delivered all the time and every single shipment was clearly marked as requiring age verification for release. There's currently no way to reliably verify age remotely so the shipper takes that responsibility when they accept the shipment. If the drivers aren't following procedure, fire them. Delivery drivers make pretty decent money and it won't be hard to fill those positions.
 
2012-05-08 03:54:05 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Back in myyy day, we had get fake IDs to buy Boone's Farm and we liked it!


Prohibition makes criminals out of non criminals you say?
 
2012-05-08 03:54:57 PM
"Wine is the only alcoholic beverage that the shipping companies - FedEx and UPS in this study - will ship as per their regulations." that's a lie and a half, I've order liquor online several times and never had any issues. (Everclear they do not sell in Ohio) But I've always had to sign for it....had the same FedEx delivery guy for years and I still have to sign....UPS delivered here before and I had to show them ID.

But yeah, kids drinking.......OH NO.
 
2012-05-08 03:55:05 PM
I love me some manufactured fear-mongering by the press.
 
2012-05-08 03:57:05 PM
I assume we are not talking fine wines here?

Because it would be tragic if teenagers were to drink fine wines, become oenophiles and end up writing snarky little columns for small yuppie-oriented magazines. Better they should stick to Blueberry Wine, which goes surprisingly well with take-out pizza.
 
2012-05-08 03:57:27 PM
Yeah...I can't imagine some under-21 hopping onto the Internet to order 6 bottles (the minimum I've found on most sites) that will cost at least $80 with shipping and handling for a cheapish $10 bottle of wine. Hell I don't even know many under-25s that will drink wine at all. I have been DYING for our state to lax the laws and allow wine shipments to a private home easily, but this is one of the arguments the opponents use and it is a stupid argument.
 
2012-05-08 03:58:08 PM
Back in my day we smoked pot until we were old enough to drink.
 
2012-05-08 04:06:01 PM

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "Children can also hide online purchases from parents by using prepaid cards they can buy with cash."

Well than clearly the only solution is to ban the sale of gift cards. Duh!!!

Alright, in all seriousness, there are problems with this Suburban/PTA mom fear mongering news piece that I am not buying: Kids/Teens seek immediate gratification and this seems like an awful lot of effort to get some somewhat pricy alcohol. I am not saying that teens are lazy and wont get creative in order to get farked up...but if they are looking to get farked up, there are far easier options than buying gift cards, ordering shiat online, then waiting for delivery, then coordinating the delivery when mom/dad are not home.


actually I was thinking this has to be the *easiest* way to get alcohol. If your parents drink wine and order it over the internet, that charge on their credit card won't look unusual. If you wait until they are out of town to have it delivered, they'll never know, and that's probably the only time you'll have the house to yourself for the privacy to drink it.
 
2012-05-08 04:06:53 PM

jtown: Without even reading the story, I know this is a problem with the delivery companies. An old employer used to have wine delivered all the time and every single shipment was clearly marked as requiring age verification for release. There's currently no way to reliably verify age remotely so the shipper takes that responsibility when they accept the shipment. If the drivers aren't following procedure, fire them. Delivery drivers make pretty decent money and it won't be hard to fill those positions.


The drivers ARE following procedure. The procedure of 'get all this done or you're fired'. They are told that they have to follow all the time consuming rules like waiting at the door for a few minutes even tho if they did that they would never deliver everything on time. Catch 22 style.

OhioUGrad: "Wine is the only alcoholic beverage that the shipping companies - FedEx and UPS in this study - will ship as per their regulations." that's a lie and a half, I've order liquor online several times and never had any issues. (Everclear they do not sell in Ohio) But I've always had to sign for it....had the same FedEx delivery guy for years and I still have to sign....UPS delivered here before and I had to show them ID.

But yeah, kids drinking.......OH NO.


They won't sell Everclear in my state either but I've ordered it (not for drinkin) and it came in box with a picture of a wine bottle on said box. I've always signed for it because I have them keep it at the local fedex shoppe or whatever until I feel like picking it up after all the state liquor stores are closed (out of principle).
 
2012-05-08 04:07:24 PM
News day 1: Finally, the US cracks down on underage drinking. No one underage drinks anymore, ever!

News day 2: Tens of thousands of alcoholic beverage manufacturers, package stores and convenient stores declare bankruptcy; layoff hundreds of thousands.
 
2012-05-08 04:11:43 PM

dorko16: The horror.


This
 
2012-05-08 04:12:21 PM
Why not just raid the P's liquor cabinet and create some good ol' Jungle Juice?
Nothing like mixing Seagrams 7, a bit of vermouth, some gin, and apricot brandy.. by the quart
 
2012-05-08 04:13:47 PM
Addendum, then adding water to the stolen beverages to make sure no one will notice
 
2012-05-08 04:16:27 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: I love me some manufactured fear-mongering by the pressstate alcohol distributors.

 
2012-05-08 04:16:49 PM
Options when I was under 21:

1) my older brother
2) my co-workers, who were of legal age
3) my older friends
4) just go to the liquor stores everyone knew didn't care

Why the hell would I order online when it is overly expensive, not beer, and may be delivered when someone who cared about me drinking at 20 was around?
 
2012-05-08 04:18:05 PM
I clearly grew up in the wrong decade.
 
2012-05-08 04:18:10 PM
Wine snobs are getting younger and younger.
 
2012-05-08 04:18:38 PM

SoCalSurfer: hdhale: Eliminate age verification.

Problem solved. With the millions you save, you can educate people on why they shouldn't act like assclowns when they drink and work toward more effective drug and alcohol programs.

Survey says:

Butthurt moms


Survey says that someone who is old enough to qualify to vote, thus is considered mature enough and responsible enough to make an informed decision about matters of state from who should be President of the United States to how much people should pay in property and income taxes, etc., they are old enough to have a beer.

Survey also says I'm bone tired of Neo-Prohibitionists like the members of MADD, who think if we just ban booze that it will solve all the world's problems.
 
2012-05-08 04:18:45 PM

beefoe: Wasilla Hillbilly: I love me some manufactured fear-mongering by the press state alcohol distributors.


lets try this again
 
2012-05-08 04:22:43 PM

beefoe: beefoe: Wasilla Hillbilly: I love me some manufactured fear-mongering by the press state alcohol distributors.

lets try this again


You want to eliminate government jobs?

Why do you hate America? Don't you know that the nanny state keeps millions of Americans employed in white collar jobs?
 
2012-05-08 04:26:22 PM
Just wait until they find out about online jenkem recipes.
 
2012-05-08 04:32:05 PM

beefoe: beefoe: Wasilla Hillbilly: I love me some manufactured fear-mongering by the press state alcohol distributors.

lets try this again


Actually "Researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill" are to blame apparently. Of course, the media choose to run with it.
 
2012-05-08 04:33:26 PM
www.blogsmithcdn.com

For yer wine!
 
2012-05-08 04:33:41 PM

Gabrielmot: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "Children can also hide online purchases from parents by using prepaid cards they can buy with cash."

Well than clearly the only solution is to ban the sale of gift cards. Duh!!!

Alright, in all seriousness, there are problems with this Suburban/PTA mom fear mongering news piece that I am not buying: Kids/Teens seek immediate gratification and this seems like an awful lot of effort to get some somewhat pricy alcohol. I am not saying that teens are lazy and wont get creative in order to get farked up...but if they are looking to get farked up, there are far easier options than buying gift cards, ordering shiat online, then waiting for delivery, then coordinating the delivery when mom/dad are not home.

actually I was thinking this has to be the *easiest* way to get alcohol. If your parents drink wine and order it over the internet, that charge on their credit card won't look unusual. If you wait until they are out of town to have it delivered, they'll never know, and that's probably the only time you'll have the house to yourself for the privacy to drink it.


It's easier and more time-convenient to just get a hobo to buy the shiat for you
 
2012-05-08 04:35:43 PM
This artile is a hoot and so are the comments this canuck drank brandy at 2 mo old and that gave me a taste for the good stuff.....nothing like starting them young
 
2012-05-08 04:54:03 PM
Back in my day a bunch of us would pile into the car and drive to the beer store (the LCBO). Then we'd each go in singly and ask for a two-four. Nobody had fake IDs. If they asked us for IDs we'd say we forgot it and walk out if they still wouldn't sell it to us. I don't remember us ever leaving the store without getting at least one successful hit.
 
2012-05-08 04:58:00 PM
Many Internet alcohol vendors....

100 of the most popular vendors....

Of 45 successful orders, 51 percent didn't....


So, 23% then?

Nearly 60 percent of companies [60 companies] selling alcohol online made little, if any, effort to verify customers' ages.

And yet you only secured 45 successful orders, only half of which didn't check ID.


Also:

"Teens widely report having access to parents' identifications and having no qualms about using them to bypass age verification,"

So even if they did check IDs, kids would still find a way around the process.

News.
 
2012-05-08 05:01:49 PM
From the article comment section:

"This is just another attempt by the distributors to keep their grip on wine sale so they can continue to make huge profits and lock small wineries out of the market. I'd like to see who paid for the "study.""

Somebody gets it! Online wine sales are killing the distributors and they are trying any underhanded tactic they can to maintain their monopoly. If you care about wine and winemakers, you should be pissed at ABC for running this slam piece.
 
2012-05-08 05:29:11 PM

lewismarktwo: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Back in myyy day, we had get fake IDs to buy Boone's Farm and we liked it!

Prohibition makes criminals out of non criminals you say?


You misspelled "government regulation"
 
2012-05-08 06:48:44 PM
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this article is the result of the liquor distributors' lobby to ban direct wine sales. They probably offered a grant to the University to conduct the study (who else would fund such a banal academic study?). Distributors failed again in Congress this year to get the practice banned so now they're trying to create moral panic. They are shameless, and liquor distributors do nothing but make our sacred beer more expensive. When I am King they will be the first against the wall.
 
2012-05-08 07:01:27 PM
Not the greatest story. But a good one.

I built a website for this store that would sell wine and ship anywhere in the country. I was doing this as a freelancer. And then it occurred to me... What happens if some 14 year old uses his mom's credit card, and then drinks himself to death of wine he bought using the site I built?!
I mean, that would SUCK!

So I went to the guy I was working for and said, "Put me on your payroll. That way I'm insured under YOUR business. Pay me $100 a month."

He agreed. I got paid many, many, many months. And in the end, no one died, and no one got sued. A whole helluva lot of wine got sold though.

Win, win, win...
 
2012-05-08 07:08:42 PM
They should just do what porn sites do:

Site: "Are you 21?"
Kid: "Ya. Sure. Whatever."
Site: "Right this way!"
 
2012-05-08 07:31:13 PM

SoCalSurfer: Oh my god!!! Kids are drinking!!!

Please, I'm fine with this assuming theyre good students, not driving and using condoms.


you're not supposed to use condoms while driving?

/always drives with a hooker on his lap
 
2012-05-08 07:35:27 PM

Gabrielmot: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "Children can also hide online purchases from parents by using prepaid cards they can buy with cash."

Well than clearly the only solution is to ban the sale of gift cards. Duh!!!

Alright, in all seriousness, there are problems with this Suburban/PTA mom fear mongering news piece that I am not buying: Kids/Teens seek immediate gratification and this seems like an awful lot of effort to get some somewhat pricy alcohol. I am not saying that teens are lazy and wont get creative in order to get farked up...but if they are looking to get farked up, there are far easier options than buying gift cards, ordering shiat online, then waiting for delivery, then coordinating the delivery when mom/dad are not home.

actually I was thinking this has to be the *easiest* way to get alcohol. If your parents drink wine and order it over the internet, that charge on their credit card won't look unusual. If you wait until they are out of town to have it delivered, they'll never know, and that's probably the only time you'll have the house to yourself for the privacy to drink it.


OK, what are the legal penalties of providing fake ID to a UPS guy?

Now USPS, I'm guessing it's hella illegal. UPS is not a govt entity though. So I guess it's like providing fake ID to a convenience store, it would still be "forgery of a public document" or just tampering with a public record (altering your birthdate on a real ID).

Aw, they'll probably give the drivers magnetic stripe readers too. Not just for better accuracy, but ironclad documentation for legal defense and also preventing lazy drivers from scribbling down bullshiat signatures and dumping it on the porch. Those guys ARE lazy.
 
2012-05-08 07:41:48 PM
Did tweakers suddenly disappear? Any tweaker will buy anybody anything if it means keeping the change...

/how we did it
 
2012-05-08 09:17:00 PM

MrEricSir: Back in my day we smoked pot until we were old enough to drink.


I don't know why you weren't on my favorites list, but you are now. :)
 
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