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(Chronicle of Higher Education)   How's that Ph.D. in medieval history workin' out for ya? "I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare"   (chronicle.com) divider line 485
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2012-05-08 09:49:00 AM  
Universities really screw adjuncts professors when it comes to compensation. For the amount of work they put in, the university usually pays something like 15-20K with no benefits. It's worse than minimum wage.
 
2012-05-08 09:51:12 AM  
There may or may not have been some bad decision-making in this woman's past, but the adjunct system that colleges and universities have rigged in order to secure what is essentially slave labor is a the far bigger problem. It's Wal-Mart level manipulation and exploitation of a workforce but on an even far more insidious level, because those same people trapped in it have actually already had to pay tens of thousands of dollars into it to even earn the most minimal "right" to work.
 
2012-05-08 10:06:58 AM  
Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.
 
2012-05-08 10:08:35 AM  
Yes, yes. Certain degrees are worthless in today's culture. I guess having experts around in subjects such as specific historical periods is superfluous. We should get rid of such educational programs. We don't need experts in such fields anyway. No one needs to know what happened during the medieval period. Not important.
 
2012-05-08 10:11:17 AM  

RexTalionis: Universities really screw adjuncts professors when it comes to compensation. For the amount of work they put in, the university usually pays something like 15-20K with no benefits. It's worse than minimum wage.


It's just an apprenticeship. You get treated like dirty and you dont get pay enough. Then later you have a job for life.

You would think that a person with a PhD in medieval history would recognize that.
 
2012-05-08 10:13:16 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: It's just an apprenticeship. You get treated like dirty and you dont get pay enough. Then later you have a job for life.


What, you think adjuncts actually get hired for full-time faculty positions? Most of the time, the university or college just exploit them for cheap labor and keep them as part-time adjuncts.
 
2012-05-08 10:20:03 AM  
Argue the merits of a degree in medieval history all you want, but the real issue here is this:

In Arizona last year, Gov. Jan Brewer [...] signed a budget that cut the state's allocation to Yavapai's operating budget from $4.3-million to $900,000

Sure that's just one community college, but it's a systematic trend of not investing in education. This results in all sorts of things such as our students performing worse overall, not being able to compete on the world markets, falling behind other countries in technology and innovation and outsourcing more and more "high level" jobs such as engineering and design not just "grunt work nobody else wants to do". Furthermore, a decrease in state funding for schools means that the schools must raise tuition to meet the lost operating budget, which then puts more burden on students to take out student loans and all the problems that come with that.

What we need is a fundamental shift in thinking in this country -- lets invest in our future. Put more money into schools of all levels. Don't screw over teachers because you think they get the summers off. It's not sexy because we're not competing with somebody towards a specific goal (such as the Moon Race -- go listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson for that one) and that the results will be seen in 20 years, not in 6 months. We need to invest in long term strategies, not short term budget balancing and we need to start doing that yesterday. I promise you that the return on this investment will be greater than anybody can truly measure (which is yet another problem), even if it means a little deficit spending right now.
 
2012-05-08 10:21:21 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: It's just an apprenticeship. You get treated like dirty and you dont get pay enough. Then later you have a job for life.

You would think that a person with a PhD in medieval history would recognize that.


Hahaha. Oh, wow! You actually believe that? That is SO not how things work in the academic job market.
 
2012-05-08 10:22:44 AM  

Donnchadha: Argue the merits of a degree in medieval history all you want, but the real issue here is this:

In Arizona last year, Gov. Jan Brewer [...] signed a budget that cut the state's allocation to Yavapai's operating budget from $4.3-million to $900,000

Sure that's just one community college, but it's a systematic trend of not investing in education. This results in all sorts of things such as our students performing worse overall, not being able to compete on the world markets, falling behind other countries in technology and innovation and outsourcing more and more "high level" jobs such as engineering and design not just "grunt work nobody else wants to do". Furthermore, a decrease in state funding for schools means that the schools must raise tuition to meet the lost operating budget, which then puts more burden on students to take out student loans and all the problems that come with that.

What we need is a fundamental shift in thinking in this country -- lets invest in our future. Put more money into schools of all levels. Don't screw over teachers because you think they get the summers off. It's not sexy because we're not competing with somebody towards a specific goal (such as the Moon Race -- go listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson for that one) and that the results will be seen in 20 years, not in 6 months. We need to invest in long term strategies, not short term budget balancing and we need to start doing that yesterday. I promise you that the return on this investment will be greater than anybody can truly measure (which is yet another problem), even if it means a little deficit spending right now.


Sorry. Too busy waging war against brown people.
 
2012-05-08 10:24:18 AM  

Donnchadha: Argue the merits of a degree in medieval history all you want, but the real issue here is this:

In Arizona last year, Gov. Jan Brewer [...] signed a budget that cut the state's allocation to Yavapai's operating budget from $4.3-million to $900,000

Sure that's just one community college, but it's a systematic trend of not investing in education. This results in all sorts of things such as our students performing worse overall, not being able to compete on the world markets, falling behind other countries in technology and innovation and outsourcing more and more "high level" jobs such as engineering and design not just "grunt work nobody else wants to do". Furthermore, a decrease in state funding for schools means that the schools must raise tuition to meet the lost operating budget, which then puts more burden on students to take out student loans and all the problems that come with that.

What we need is a fundamental shift in thinking in this country -- lets invest in our future. Put more money into schools of all levels. Don't screw over teachers because you think they get the summers off. It's not sexy because we're not competing with somebody towards a specific goal (such as the Moon Race -- go listen to Neil deGrasse Tyson for that one) and that the results will be seen in 20 years, not in 6 months. We need to invest in long term strategies, not short term budget balancing and we need to start doing that yesterday. I promise you that the return on this investment will be greater than anybody can truly measure (which is yet another problem), even if it means a little deficit spending right now.


Yew sound e-leet-est. Take yer fancy book-learnin' outta here USA is the BEST gol-durned coontry in the whole wide world!! Jesus hisself tol me that.
 
2012-05-08 10:32:39 AM  

junkmetal: Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.


Yes because there is nothing more glamorous than a career teaching history. Its not like trying to become a fashion model or a rock star.

People go into careers like history because they have an aptitude for it. They can read quickly and organize information in a cohesive narrative flow. They are able to remember names and dates and write well.

History, is in fact, a skill and its a valuable one. An undergraduate degree in history is a popular first degree (along with psychology) for people entering law school. In fact all professions need a historical context to be understood. So while we may not need masses of historians we do need history classes at the college level and we need people with PhDs in history to teach them.

FWIW I think the real problem is housing costs. Waaaaay back in the 70s a friend and I could afford a cheap apartment in west hollywood because she had a part-time McDonalds job. This lady is paying $700.00 a month rent and earning $900.00. The rent is too damn high.
 
2012-05-08 10:35:31 AM  
Can someone smart do the math. $900 a month seems very low. Perhaps if she got a real job instead of her current one she could make more.
 
2012-05-08 10:36:24 AM  
Those that do not study history are doomed to repeat it. Those that do are doomed to spend 40 years teaching it.
 
2012-05-08 10:36:56 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: RexTalionis: Universities really screw adjuncts professors when it comes to compensation. For the amount of work they put in, the university usually pays something like 15-20K with no benefits. It's worse than minimum wage.

It's just an apprenticeship. You get treated like dirty and you dont get pay enough. Then later you have a job for life.

You would think that a person with a PhD in medieval history would recognize that.


It's cute how little you know about the world works. And by cute I mean horrifying, when you realize that you think you're a genius and you're explaining the real world to the rest of us, yet you have no actual experience with the world you're telling us about.
 
2012-05-08 10:37:09 AM  

quickdraw: junkmetal: Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.

Yes because there is nothing more glamorous than a career teaching history. Its not like trying to become a fashion model or a rock star.

People go into careers like history because they have an aptitude for it. They can read quickly and organize information in a cohesive narrative flow. They are able to remember names and dates and write well.

History, is in fact, a skill and its a valuable one. An undergraduate degree in history is a popular first degree (along with psychology) for people entering law school. In fact all professions need a historical context to be understood. So while we may not need masses of historians we do need history classes at the college level and we need people with PhDs in history to teach them.

FWIW I think the real problem is housing costs. Waaaaay back in the 70s a friend and I could afford a cheap apartment in west hollywood because she had a part-time McDonalds job. This lady is paying $700.00 a month rent and earning $900.00. The rent is too damn high.


www.homemademech.com
 
2012-05-08 10:39:56 AM  

Donnchadha: it's a systematic trend of not investing in education.


Or not "investing" wisely.
 
2012-05-08 10:41:27 AM  
In the town where she teaches (Prescott), there are craigslist ads for apartments at about $600. She could sell her car and take the bus. No gas, no insurance, no maintenance

Bad choices all around.

Also her apartment is a disaster. Being poor doesn't mean you have to live like a pig.
 
2012-05-08 10:42:17 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Donnchadha: it's a systematic trend of not investing in education.

Or not "investing" wisely.


Or just university continuing to raise tuition rates because the government will continue to increase the amount of money available in student loans.
 
2012-05-08 10:43:57 AM  

netizencain: Dancin_In_Anson: Donnchadha: it's a systematic trend of not investing in education.

Or not "investing" wisely.

Or just university continuing to raise tuition rates because the government will continue to increase the amount of money available in student loans.


He just "cited" a Townhall link, and you're responding with anything other than complete disdain and mocking of him?
 
2012-05-08 10:44:21 AM  
Education has never created a single job. Ever. And no, facts won't disprove that statement. Only that you need to stop reading books and get a job.
 
2012-05-08 10:48:40 AM  
I'm kind of more worried by this:

FTFA: "That's how she feels compelled to start a conversation about how she, a white woman with a Ph.D. in medieval history and an adjunct professor, came to rely on food stamps and Medicaid."

As if it would be perfectly fine to assume that an African-American woman with a PhD in medieval history and an adjunct professor would be on food stamps and Medicaid...

I received a BA in comparative religious studies, I thought about going to grad school for a Masters then PhD in religious studies but I knew that the job prospects were horrible so now I'm an office grunt making more than most of the adjunct professors here. (Although I occasionally still have wistful dreams of going back into religious studies.)
 
2012-05-08 10:49:00 AM  

GAT_00: He just "cited" a Townhall link, and you're responding with anything other than complete disdain and mocking of him?


Says the guy that can't find a job in his chosen field and has decided to double down and get a master's in the same discipline thinking that will do he trick.
 
2012-05-08 10:50:53 AM  
I can't understand why people pay money to get a Ph.D in something like medieval history. Sure, it's interesting, but does eating later in life not occur to these people?
 
2012-05-08 10:51:06 AM  
Why is this dumb? It's a sign of a sick society where we demand that everyone must have a skill in a capitalistic field. Do we not reward knowledge, at least morally?
 
2012-05-08 10:52:41 AM  

netizencain: Being poor doesn't mean you have to live like a pig.


Unless you have a job that takes up all your time and energy. I am so tired after one day of dealing with other people's brood that I usually have to sleep at lunch time. It's basically a one hour performance five to six times a day where each day where you can't even repeat the same jokes. Makes being a professional stand up (1 or 2 hours of new material in a year is amazing for those guys.) look like a breeze. Plus, theater audience aren't so close you catch every single cold, flu, or pandemic that rolls through your town off them.

In fact, I would be a professional comedian except for ... fark it, maybe I'll call in sick tomorrow (since I am anyway, thanks kids) and punch up some jokes.
 
2012-05-08 10:53:47 AM  

junkmetal: quickdraw: junkmetal: Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.

Yes because there is nothing more glamorous than a career teaching history. Its not like trying to become a fashion model or a rock star.

People go into careers like history because they have an aptitude for it. They can read quickly and organize information in a cohesive narrative flow. They are able to remember names and dates and write well.

History, is in fact, a skill and its a valuable one. An undergraduate degree in history is a popular first degree (along with psychology) for people entering law school. In fact all professions need a historical context to be understood. So while we may not need masses of historians we do need history classes at the college level and we need people with PhDs in history to teach them.

FWIW I think the real problem is housing costs. Waaaaay back in the 70s a friend and I could afford a cheap apartment in west hollywood because she had a part-time McDonalds job. This lady is paying $700.00 a month rent and earning $900.00. The rent is too damn high.

[www.homemademech.com image 300x300]


Now you see this proves my point exactly. An aptitude for history would have allowed you to understand what I was saying in the context of the thread. But apparently all your undereducated ass can come up with is "hur hur durr do you want fries with that?" Completely missing the point that a job at McDonalds still pays less than what this lady is making.

But you go on with your silly self. I'm sure your lack of education will make you quite the success as a drug dealer/metal salvage specialist.
 
2012-05-08 10:54:50 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Education has never created a single job. Ever. And no, facts won't disprove that statement. Only that you need to stop reading books and get a job.


Sha na na na?
 
2012-05-08 10:54:51 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: He just "cited" a Townhall link, and you're responding with anything other than complete disdain and mocking of him?

Says the guy that can't find a job in his chosen field and has decided to double down and get a master's in the same discipline thinking that will do he trick.


One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-05-08 10:55:07 AM  
According to TFA 15% of Americans are on welfare but only 1.5% of Americans with graduate degrees are. It's still possible that a PhD in manufacturing new PhDs helps job prospects.
 
2012-05-08 10:55:23 AM  
I don't really give a rat's ass about software engineering, but it pays a lot more than fun majors so I did it. You people think your great-grandparents loved working in a coal mine? Did your grandparents feel fulfilled on the assembly line?

Following your bliss has drawbacks. My bliss is to not work and go hiking all day, but I don't accept the tradeoff which is poverty so I work at something that pays. This should be elemental.
 
2012-05-08 10:56:49 AM  

DamnYankees: Why is this dumb? It's a sign of a sick society where we demand that everyone must have a skill in a capitalistic field. Do we not reward knowledge, at least morally?


our society only rewards wealth, power and/or strength. we do not reward or encourage knowledge for the sake of knowledge. unless you have mastered a skill that brings you fear, respect, power and/or money...nobody cares. we will mock you for earning a degree in a 'useless' field. we will deride the pursuit of knowledge without application in our society....we will call you weak, and we will ignore you.

because that's who we really are.
 
2012-05-08 11:01:10 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I don't really give a rat's ass about software engineering, but it pays a lot more than fun majors so I did it. You people think your great-grandparents loved working in a coal mine? Did your grandparents feel fulfilled on the assembly line?

Following your bliss has drawbacks. My bliss is to not work and go hiking all day, but I don't accept the tradeoff which is poverty so I work at something that pays. This should be elemental.


So software engineering is so easy anyone can do it?
 
2012-05-08 11:03:37 AM  

quickdraw: Rapmaster2000: I don't really give a rat's ass about software engineering, but it pays a lot more than fun majors so I did it. You people think your great-grandparents loved working in a coal mine? Did your grandparents feel fulfilled on the assembly line?

Following your bliss has drawbacks. My bliss is to not work and go hiking all day, but I don't accept the tradeoff which is poverty so I work at something that pays. This should be elemental.

So software engineering is so easy anyone can do it?


I can barely read and I do it.
 
2012-05-08 11:07:34 AM  

Rapmaster2000: quickdraw: Rapmaster2000: I don't really give a rat's ass about software engineering, but it pays a lot more than fun majors so I did it. You people think your great-grandparents loved working in a coal mine? Did your grandparents feel fulfilled on the assembly line?

Following your bliss has drawbacks. My bliss is to not work and go hiking all day, but I don't accept the tradeoff which is poverty so I work at something that pays. This should be elemental.

So software engineering is so easy anyone can do it?

I can barely read and I do it.


Don't you think there is some sort of aptitude involved that has nothing to do with reading? I have a lot of skills including reading well. Architectural design and drafting and bookkeeping are the ones that have given me the steadiest employment but I can't code to save my life. If I could have I would have got work in that field long ago.
 
2012-05-08 11:08:29 AM  
OK - as a former adjunct, just let me say here:

Adjunct: Adjunct jobs are part-time. Generally, you have a day job as well and are working toward the day where you can quit your day job and the adjunct job, and move into a tenure track position. It's not intended to be your sole source of support. I was an adjunct for a major research university and took home a little more than what she does. It's not a full-time job. I did it in addition to my full-time job to pay off my credit cards.

Yavapai College: you don't expect good wages from a Community College. it's a stopping off point before you get your real job.

Adjunct at a Community College, with no day job: Wow. This girl must have pissed someone off, or makes terrible life decisions.

Advice to the adjunct: Get a day job. Yes, you can do it - it will require more than 20 hours of work a week, and I know that's hard, but it is indeed possible. Life, you see, is not like university. You don't get to do what you want, pick your times and classes, and generally run things. You have to do things you don't like, sometimes, like get a job doing something other than your dream, in order to lay the foundation for what you want.

Also, move closer to your job, you farkwit. The money you spend on gas and wear and tear on the car could go toward rent. Better yet, find another job And Move There. I've moved all over the damn country to get the career I want.

You can do it. You just have to make it happen and stop waiting for someone to hand it to you based on merit. The universe doesn't give a rat's ass about your merits. The university system cares even less.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-08 11:09:53 AM  

junkmetal: Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.


Yeah, she should have been an Architect, Clinical Psycologist or majored in "Computer Administration Managementt and Security".

http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/NILF1111/#term=
 
2012-05-08 11:10:41 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: He just "cited" a Townhall link, and you're responding with anything other than complete disdain and mocking of him?

Says the guy that can't find a job in his chosen field and has decided to double down and get a master's in the same discipline thinking that will do he trick.


Do you honestly think that changing our education system to focus solely on a few subjects like math and science would be good for our country in the long run?

Sure, history majors won't make as much, but thinking that we could forgo humanities in order to just pump out engineers would be anything but destructive is myopic and ignorant.
 
2012-05-08 11:11:57 AM  

quickdraw: Rapmaster2000: quickdraw: Rapmaster2000: I don't really give a rat's ass about software engineering, but it pays a lot more than fun majors so I did it. You people think your great-grandparents loved working in a coal mine? Did your grandparents feel fulfilled on the assembly line?

Following your bliss has drawbacks. My bliss is to not work and go hiking all day, but I don't accept the tradeoff which is poverty so I work at something that pays. This should be elemental.

So software engineering is so easy anyone can do it?

I can barely read and I do it.

Don't you think there is some sort of aptitude involved that has nothing to do with reading? I have a lot of skills including reading well. Architectural design and drafting and bookkeeping are the ones that have given me the steadiest employment but I can't code to save my life. If I could have I would have got work in that field long ago.


*Shrugs* Look how much time I blow on Fark all day and they've been paying me to do this for years. My calculus grades in college were all Cs. I failed Intro to C programming the first time I took it (mainly because I partied and never went to class - got A the 2nd time).

I've often thought I could train people to do this job in 2 years for a lot less than what a college degree costs.
 
2012-05-08 11:12:06 AM  

GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.


Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?
 
2012-05-08 11:13:40 AM  

quickdraw: junkmetal: quickdraw: junkmetal: Meh, she picked her "bliss" over a useful study or vocation. Follow your bliss after you have a job that can pay for it.

Yes because there is nothing more glamorous than a career teaching history. Its not like trying to become a fashion model or a rock star.

People go into careers like history because they have an aptitude for it. They can read quickly and organize information in a cohesive narrative flow. They are able to remember names and dates and write well.

History, is in fact, a skill and its a valuable one. An undergraduate degree in history is a popular first degree (along with psychology) for people entering law school. In fact all professions need a historical context to be understood. So while we may not need masses of historians we do need history classes at the college level and we need people with PhDs in history to teach them.

FWIW I think the real problem is housing costs. Waaaaay back in the 70s a friend and I could afford a cheap apartment in west hollywood because she had a part-time McDonalds job. This lady is paying $700.00 a month rent and earning $900.00. The rent is too damn high.

[www.homemademech.com image 300x300]

Now you see this proves my point exactly. An aptitude for history would have allowed you to understand what I was saying in the context of the thread. But apparently all your undereducated ass can come up with is "hur hur durr do you want fries with that?" Completely missing the point that a job at McDonalds still pays less than what this lady is making.

But you go on with your silly self. I'm sure your lack of education will make you quite the success as a drug dealer/metal salvage specialist.


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2012-05-08 11:15:22 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?


i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.
 
2012-05-08 11:18:09 AM  

Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?

i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.


He doesn't know how to NOT be an asshole. I expected nothing else.
 
2012-05-08 11:19:28 AM  

RexTalionis: What, you think adjuncts actually get hired for full-time faculty positions? Most of the time, the university or college just exploit them for cheap labor and keep them as part-time adjuncts.


You think every blacksmith's apprentice became a blacksmith? I know not every adjunct becomes a tenured professor. But for some (those that don't have best selling books or some other form of minor celebrity) it's a way to get the foot in the door. Or do you think that everyone that tries should succeed?
 
2012-05-08 11:20:32 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?


oh, and another thing - government jobs are about the best some places offer these days. For example, tech jobs in Central Pa are sucking mud these days. sure, the local companies have jobs available...but they don't want to PAY for someone who's got years of experience. they'd rather outsource to india or china than hire local. H1B visa workers are another alternative. anything to avoid paying a US worker valid wages.

So if I get laid off over the next year (which is entirely possible right now), you can bet yer ass i'm gonna go look for a job with the state.
 
2012-05-08 11:23:05 AM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?

i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.

He doesn't know how to NOT be an asshole. I expected nothing else.


you can't mock unemployment...then turn around and mock someone for getting a job that gets them off unemployment. either having a job is a good thing (even if it's a job considered to be 'low status', as if that matters) or it's not.

I don't get it.
 
2012-05-08 11:26:31 AM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?

i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.

He doesn't know how to NOT be an asshole. I expected nothing else.

you can't mock unemployment...then turn around and mock someone for getting a job that gets them off unemployment. either having a job is a good thing (even if it's a job considered to be 'low status', as if that matters) or it's not.

I don't get it.


Here's how it works.

1. Government jobs offer great pay, benefits, and job security.
2. Only losers get government jobs.

Yeah, I don't get it. I think it's a way of expressing displeasure with government in general.
 
2012-05-08 11:34:00 AM  

Rapmaster2000:
Here's how it works.

1. Government jobs offer great pay, benefits, and job security.
2. Only losers get government jobs.

Yeah, I don't get it. I think it's a way of expressing displeasure with government in general.


I live in the state capital. MOST of the jobs around here (the good paying ones anways) involve the state government, either directly or as a contractor. And with more and more companies bleeding jobs out overseas there really isn't much of an option.
 
2012-05-08 11:36:41 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?

i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.

He doesn't know how to NOT be an asshole. I expected nothing else.

you can't mock unemployment...then turn around and mock someone for getting a job that gets them off unemployment. either having a job is a good thing (even if it's a job considered to be 'low status', as if that matters) or it's not.

I don't get it.

Here's how it works.

1. Government jobs offer great pay, benefits, and job security.
2. Only losers get government jobs.

Yeah, I don't get it. I think it's a way of expressing displeasure with government in general.


Its a 3 month thing. I don't get fun benefits, but that isn't why I'm doing it anyway. I'm doing it because I get to say I worked at ORNL.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-08 11:37:45 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: One, not the same field. Two, I'm working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory this summer. Three, suck it you worthless piece of out of touch human garbage.

Well congratulations! And a government job no less. Color me shocked! Who helped you get it?

i'm the last one to defend GAT but...you can't mock him for not getting a job, then mock him for actually getting a job AND a damn good one at that.

He doesn't know how to NOT be an asshole. I expected nothing else.

you can't mock unemployment...then turn around and mock someone for getting a job that gets them off unemployment. either having a job is a good thing (even if it's a job considered to be 'low status', as if that matters) or it's not.

I don't get it.

Here's how it works.

1. Government jobs offer great pay, benefits, and job security.
2. Only losers get government jobs.

Yeah, I don't get it. I think it's a way of expressing displeasure with government in general.


In many cases it is more of a sour grapes sort of thing by those who don't have the education or can't pass a drug test or background check.
 
2012-05-08 11:40:15 AM  

GAT_00:
Its a 3 month thing. I don't get fun benefits, but that isn't why I'm doing it anyway. I'm doing it because I get to say I worked at ORNL.


make lots of friends, take notes, develop contacts.
 
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