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(Huffington Post)   The Pentagon didn't cooperate with The Avengers production because they didn't want to be subordinate to S.H.I.E.L.D.. No, seriously   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 95
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2012-05-08 09:49:23 AM
Apparently SHIELD answers to a council of shadowy senators that don't hesitate to nuke Manhattan.
 
2012-05-08 09:53:27 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Apparently SHIELD answers to a council of shadowy senators that don't hesitate to nuke Manhattan.


Who happen to be led by a former President from 24.
 
2012-05-08 10:09:44 AM
Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.
 
2012-05-08 10:12:09 AM

WhoIsWillo: Who happen to be led by a former President from 24.


bufordp.com

Well...bye, Manhattan.
 
2012-05-08 10:15:19 AM
img252.imageshack.us

I would gladly be subordinate to her .

My dear lord.
 
2012-05-08 10:16:21 AM
 
2012-05-08 10:41:36 AM
It's simple, the Pentagon didn't like being somebody's biatch. In Iron Man, SHIELD was just a vague organization with no ties to anyone. In Avengers, SHIELD (and their leaders) have the ability to call nuclear strikes on populated American cities.
 
2012-05-08 10:56:10 AM

Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.


Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.
 
2012-05-08 11:02:42 AM

Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.


I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.
 
2012-05-08 11:05:27 AM
Although, seeing as I work for Oracle and am well aware of our corporate security policies and guidelines, maybe I should write Larry and tell him I don't like our products being used to promote a shadow operation group that answers to no one.
 
2012-05-08 11:55:57 AM
www.whargarbltv.com

"SHIELD is nobody's biatch but mine!"
 
2012-05-08 12:14:00 PM

Diogenes: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.

I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.


No snark taken. But if you didn't think the way it was presented in the movie was a problem, then it's not a problem.

I don't have issue with -a- military being protrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're protrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.
 
2012-05-08 12:22:09 PM

Babwa Wawa: I don't have issue with -a- military being protrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're protrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.


You know I posted a hot woman in a uniform right? Why u gotta be all serious and stuff?
 
2012-05-08 12:35:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img252.imageshack.us image 280x419]

I would gladly be subordinate to her .

My dear lord.


It took me half the movie to realize that was Robin from HIMYM. That's because she's about 10x hotter than when she plays Robin on HIMYM.
 
2012-05-08 12:53:24 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Babwa Wawa: I don't have issue with -a- military being protrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're protrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.

You know I posted a hot woman in a uniform right? Why u gotta be all serious and stuff?


Hehe. Just saying I understand why US military wouldn't allow the producers to use their uniforms in the movie is all.
 
2012-05-08 01:42:09 PM

Diogenes: Although, seeing as I work for Oracle and am well aware of our corporate security policies and guidelines, maybe I should write Larry and tell him I don't like our products being used to promote a shadow operation group that answers to no one.


If you work for Oracle, promoting a shadow operation that answers to no one is called "advertising".
 
2012-05-08 01:43:10 PM
The shadowy people whom Nick Fury was refusing orders from was a bit creepy. Seemed like bureaucrats who cared for themselves first and foremost.
 
2012-05-08 01:46:45 PM
"The Defense Department allowed Marvel to film Humvees for the scene."

... wat?

The DoD... allowed? How the fark do they have the authority to prohibit anything like that in the first damn place?
 
2012-05-08 01:47:09 PM

Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.

I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.

No snark taken. But if you didn't think the way it was presented in the movie was a problem, then it's not a problem.

I don't have issue with -a- military being protrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're protrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.


And Amanda Waller
 
2012-05-08 01:48:26 PM

Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.

I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.

No snark taken. But if you didn't think the way it was presented in the movie was a problem, then it's not a problem.

I don't have issue with -a- military being portrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're portrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.


but super soldiers, demi-gods, impossible - may as well be magic - armor and men that turn into huge green monsters is fine, right.

/it's fiction. who cares.
 
2012-05-08 01:49:19 PM
In contrast, the Army provided assistance for Stripes because they thought it would be a great marketing tool for recruitment.

And it worked, too.
 
2012-05-08 01:49:42 PM
Wouldn't a scene of Nick Fury meeting with the president address this concern? They made Batman a deputized law enforcement officer on the TV show to eliminate the antisocial vigilante thing.
 
2012-05-08 01:51:12 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img252.imageshack.us image 280x419]

I would gladly be subordinate to her .

My dear lord.


Well, now that Ted and her are done done, she can get serious about her career flying the Shield Helicarrier.
 
2012-05-08 01:51:55 PM

WhoIsWillo: Who happen to be led by a former President from 24.


I kept hearing Cy Tolliver.
 
2012-05-08 01:52:02 PM

TripcodeMel: In contrast, the Army provided assistance for Stripes because they thought it would be a great marketing tool for recruitment.

And it worked, too.


Yah, that movie was the sole reason I became an Army MPI.

/*eyeroll*
 
2012-05-08 01:53:14 PM

illegal.tender: "The Defense Department allowed Marvel to film Humvees for the scene."

... wat?

The DoD... allowed? How the fark do they have the authority to prohibit anything like that in the first damn place?


You can't just go buy a military humvee at the store, you know...
 
2012-05-08 01:55:34 PM

kbotc: illegal.tender: "The Defense Department allowed Marvel to film Humvees for the scene."

... wat?

The DoD... allowed? How the fark do they have the authority to prohibit anything like that in the first damn place?

You can't just go buy a military humvee at the store, you know...


Sure about that?
 
2012-05-08 01:59:24 PM
The Pentagon was going to help Stanley Kubrick with his film 'Doctor Strangelove.'
Then they read the actual script and backed out. I wonder why?
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-08 01:59:35 PM

Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.


not really. The basic rule is and always has been: the US military and the upper echelon command must look awesome(or at least badass), or we don't help you with your movie. If movie execs and directors don't kowtow properly they don't get to use military hardware or stock footage.
 
2012-05-08 02:00:19 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Apparently SHIELD answers to a council of shadowy senators that don't hesitate to nuke Manhattan.


Do they have any idea what that would do to property prices?
 
2012-05-08 02:01:07 PM

OregonVet: /*eyeroll*


Maybe not for you, but recruitment rates (reportedly) briefly spiked after the movie came out.

I mean, I'm going off of Uncle John's Bathroom Reader here, but typically they have their facts straightened out.
 
2012-05-08 02:02:40 PM
well, in 616 shield supposedly answers to the UN.

and I wish they had found someone closer looking to the way steve mcniven drew maria hill in civil war.

/dat ass.
 
2012-05-08 02:03:28 PM
I'm well aware of the DoD's decision,but since it was a stupid-ass decision,I've chosen to ignore it....
 
2012-05-08 02:05:59 PM
Am I the only one who thought that the shadow organization looked bizarrely like Gendo talking with the shadow organization in Eva? That was a really creepy moment in Avengers, and I honestly would not have been surprised if an Eva unit had shown up after that.
 
2012-05-08 02:08:20 PM
Nick Fury didn't want it to turn into a documentary
 
2012-05-08 02:10:11 PM
The Pentagon didn't cooperate with The Avengers production because they didn't want to be subordinate to S.H.I.E.L.D..

To be fair, neither did the Avengers.
 
2012-05-08 02:11:21 PM

illegal.tender: "The Defense Department allowed Marvel to film Humvees for the scene."

... wat?

The DoD... allowed? How the fark do they have the authority to prohibit anything like that in the first damn place?


I wonder who actually owns the IP for the Hummer, maybe the feds do and not the manufacturer
 
2012-05-08 02:13:52 PM

illegal.tender: "The Defense Department allowed Marvel to film Humvees for the scene."

... wat?

The DoD... allowed? How the fark do they have the authority to prohibit anything like that in the first damn place?


There's a difference between taking a picture of something sitting on a public street, versus:

"Hey, can you drive this convoy of M1151 HMMWVs down this certain street, at this certain time? Oh, and it will probably need at least ten takes."
 
2012-05-08 02:14:10 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Apparently SHIELD answers to a council of shadowy senators that don't hesitate to nuke Manhattan.


We watched Independence Day in the theater - in Houston.
The yelling "nooooooo!" in the crowd when it became clear that they would try a nuke there was hilarious...

/cue 'good riddance, it's in texas' comments...
 
2012-05-08 02:17:25 PM

scottydoesntknow: It took me half the movie to realize that was Robin from HIMYM. That's because she's about 10x hotter than when she plays Robin on HIMYM.


My wife and I kept making cracks about Robin Sparkle and "lets go to the mall", through the whole movie.
 
2012-05-08 02:17:34 PM
Call me old fashioned but maybe the military shouldn't be providing assistance to ANY film production. I think they have better things to do.
 
2012-05-08 02:18:48 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Apparently SHIELD answers to a council of shadowy senators that don't hesitate to nuke Manhattan.


I.. don't have a problem with that.

/A friends description of "Independence Day" has always stuck with me.
//Aliens come to Earth, Aliens destroy New York, L.A. and Washington D.C.
///Aliens later prove hostile.
 
2012-05-08 02:19:23 PM

Blathering Idjut: Call me old fashioned but maybe the military shouldn't be providing assistance to ANY film production. I think they have better things to do.


When done right, it's actually a good recruitment tool.
 
2012-05-08 02:22:11 PM

Eirik: Blathering Idjut: Call me old fashioned but maybe the military shouldn't be providing assistance to ANY film production. I think they have better things to do.

When done right, it's actually a good recruitment tool.


cops generally have better things to do than pull people over for speeding, but they do.
 
2012-05-08 02:22:39 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img252.imageshack.us image 280x419]

I would gladly be subordinate to her .

My dear lord.


i note that many of these organizations have uniforms notionally designed for comfort that happen to make their female members distractingly appealing.

how the hell the pilots didn't crash the helicarrier every time she took a walk through the bridge i'll NEVER know.
 
2012-05-08 02:23:02 PM
fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net
 
2012-05-08 02:27:01 PM
That explains why we didn't see this Avenger :


upload.wikimedia.org


/hot
//so very, very hot
 
2012-05-08 02:27:55 PM

frepnog: Eirik: Blathering Idjut: Call me old fashioned but maybe the military shouldn't be providing assistance to ANY film production. I think they have better things to do.

When done right, it's actually a good recruitment tool.

cops generally have better things to do than pull people over for speeding, but they do.


True, but those things are more dangerous, and happen in neighborhoods without donut shops.
 
2012-05-08 02:47:20 PM

frepnog: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.

I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.

No snark taken. But if you didn't think the way it was presented in the movie was a problem, then it's not a problem.

I don't have issue with -a- military being portrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're portrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.

but super soldiers, demi-gods, impossible - may as well be magic - armor and men that turn into huge green monsters is fine, right.

/it's fiction. who cares.


I don't care one way or another, but I think the difference is that a demi-god is pure fiction while the Pentagon is very real and worries about its image in everyday life.
 
2012-05-08 02:53:44 PM

Wayne 985: frepnog: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Babwa Wawa: Diogenes: Their concerns about realism seem highly imbalanced.

Sadly, even science fiction movies have a very real effect on how people perceive the military. The military answers to the President - an elected official. This is at the heart of their mandate, and it's the key to what separates them from mercenaries. I agree with their thinking.

I'm not snarking at you when I say this but: I don't really care. It didn't have an apparent affect on the quality of the movie and that's all I really care about.

No snark taken. But if you didn't think the way it was presented in the movie was a problem, then it's not a problem.

I don't have issue with -a- military being portrayed as answerable to some cabal, but I would have an issue with the US military lending its IP to a movie where they're portrayed as knowingly answerable to anyone but the President.

but super soldiers, demi-gods, impossible - may as well be magic - armor and men that turn into huge green monsters is fine, right.

/it's fiction. who cares.

I don't care one way or another, but I think the difference is that a demi-god is pure fiction while the Pentagon is very real and worries about its image in everyday life.


you have a point.
 
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