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(ESPN)   Vikings release their highest scorer, because clearly there's something wrong with him if he's willing to be a part of such a spectacular failure   (espn.go.com) divider line 75
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2012-05-08 09:57:21 AM
Ryan Longwell is still one of the best placekicker names of all time though.
 
2012-05-08 10:05:00 AM
Come to Seattle, Ryan!
 
2012-05-08 11:30:40 AM
ESPN is blocked at work, but I'll assume it's because he commands a nice wage for a kicker on a team that isn't going anywhere. Only Al Davis would allow that to happen
 
2012-05-08 11:33:14 AM
He's old and they drafted a guy in the later rounds, the only surprise here is that they didn't give him a shot to keep the gig in camp. Between the stadium and the imbalance on this team it's gonna be an ugly year.

/Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.
 
2012-05-08 11:40:24 AM
Among other tortured cities, I weep for Minnesota. The Longwell news sucks, but I'm more disappointed that the NFL is holding their taxpayers hostage.

Mr. Kraft, I don't know what I owe you, and I may have already paid you back in $1000's for tickets and parking, but thank you thank you thank you.
 
2012-05-08 11:42:13 AM
Why not tear down and rebuild? With Detroit getting better by the year, the Packers having the best QB in the game and a damn good team around him, and the Bears going all-in to win while their defense still works, they sure as shiat aren't going to win the division anytime soon.
 
2012-05-08 11:42:32 AM

Nana's Vibrator: the NFL is holding their taxpayers hostage


This. As an out-of-state Vikings fan, I am extremely disappointed in the strong-arm tactics used by Goodell and his goons to force Minnesota to go deeper in debt. A slight win for the legislators to tack on another 100 mil of the Vikes money. Because fark em.
 
2012-05-08 11:43:03 AM
...and they're putting their faith in Blair Walsh?!?
 
2012-05-08 11:45:13 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Among other tortured cities, I weep for Minnesota. The Longwell news sucks, but I'm more disappointed that the NFL is holding their taxpayers hostage.

Mr. Kraft, I don't know what I owe you, and I may have already paid you back in $1000's for tickets and parking, but thank you thank you thank you.


I guess, since no one has pointed it out yet, I'll laugh at myself: Minnesota is not a city. I went to a school to learn this.
 
2012-05-08 11:46:05 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: ... and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.


Spoken like a true Vikings' fan.

/Good luck, Ryan. Hope you wind up on a decent team.
//Go Pack
 
2012-05-08 11:49:08 AM
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2012-05-08 11:50:17 AM

Orgasmatron138: Why not tear down and rebuild? With Detroit getting better by the year, the Packers having the best QB in the game and a damn good team around him, and the Bears going all-in to win while their defense still works, they sure as shiat aren't going to win the division anytime soon.


I don't even think you really need to tear down. It's a quarterback-driven league. Do you honestly think that Detroit would be a 10 win team if they didn't have a QB that could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs in a season?

Spend your first round pick on a quarterback every year until you get your Stafford or Newton. Sure, you're going to get your share of busts but when they only cost you a few million a year, you're not sacrificing much to get there.
 
2012-05-08 11:55:06 AM
Because he's getting old. I don't think the Vikings are planning on making a run for the Super Bowl in the next few years, especially in a division with the Lions, Packers and Bears (oh my). So they're looking more long term. At least that's just my guess.
 
2012-05-08 11:55:36 AM

meanmutton: Spend your first round pick on a quarterback every year until you get your Stafford or Newton. Sure, you're going to get your share of busts but when they only cost you a few million a year, you're not sacrificing much to get there.


Typically, though, the front office only lets you draft one bust QB before they fire you, so you get people dumping first-rounders into offensive linemen or whatever and biding their time until they think they found a good QB.

Offensive lineman Robert Gallery was called the safest pick in the draft when the Raiders took him at #2. Did anyone catch the slightest bit of hell when Gallery turned out to be a bust? No. Everyone kept their jobs to draft another day.

When those same Raiders took a QB at #1, though...
 
2012-05-08 11:56:29 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.


Um, the Bears are light years ahead of the Vikings. The cellar is the Vikings' to lose - I'll be impressed if they come within 5 games of anyone else in the division.
 
2012-05-08 11:56:47 AM
It's because of kickoffs, presumably. Most people pay attention to just field goal success rates, but the ability to get touchbacks on kickoffs is finally receiving the attention it deserves. And Longwell sucks at it, consistently ranking among the worst in the league, despite playing indoors and even after the kickoff spot was moved up 5 yards.

IAmRight: Come to Seattle, Ryan!


Nah. He's overrated, for the above reason. Steven Hauschka is just as good, and that undrafted guy out of Purdue (whose name escapes me) provides all the camp competition they need.
 
2012-05-08 11:59:25 AM

IAmRight: Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.

Um, the Bears are light years ahead of the Vikings. The cellar is the Vikings' to lose - I'll be impressed if they come within 5 games of anyone else in the division.


Light years... good one
 
2012-05-08 12:02:05 PM
Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?
 
2012-05-08 12:03:50 PM

Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?


Either Travis Henry or Antonio Cromartie.
 
2012-05-08 12:04:55 PM

Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?


Jerry Rice?
 
2012-05-08 12:05:43 PM

Super Chronic: Steven Hauschka is just as good


somehow I forgot he was the kicker...thought it was still Mare for some reason. Never mind!
 
2012-05-08 12:06:28 PM

Super Chronic: Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?

Either Travis Henry or Antonio Cromartie.


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Jim from Saint Paul: Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?

Jerry Rice?


Correct. The only other 2 non-kickers in the top 50 are LT and Emmitt Smith.
 
2012-05-08 12:07:12 PM

Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?


Jerry Rice?
 
2012-05-08 12:08:16 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.


What makes you think the Bears are going to be in the basement this year? Before Chicago's entire offense went on IR, they were tied with DET at 7-3 and had beaten the Lions bloody in week 10.
 
2012-05-08 12:09:24 PM

Super Chronic: Treygreen13: Fun fact: the top 27 scorers of all time are kickers. Anyone care to guess the first non-kicker, at #28?

Either Travis Henry or Antonio Cromartie.


Shawn Kemp should have played football
 
2012-05-08 12:12:13 PM
If the Ponder kid can play worth a damn, the Vikes will flirt with 8-8.

If he can't? Well, there's always Matt Barkley...
 
2012-05-08 12:20:39 PM
Hey, if they REALLY think the kid will be able to kick field goals, fine.

I just know the last time we got rid of our older yet steady kicker (Morten Anderson), we had guys like Aaron Elling.

Missing extra points.

IN THE PRE-SEASON.
 
2012-05-08 12:23:04 PM
he's no Jay Feely

www.feelykicking.com
 
2012-05-08 12:23:54 PM
Surely this puts the Vikings as early favorites to win the Superb Owl!
 
2012-05-08 12:25:21 PM

Funbags: If the Ponder kid can play worth a damn, the Vikes will flirt with 8-8.

If he can't? Well, there's always Matt Barkley...


Kalil will help Ponder a lot. It's not a nice division to young QBs (refer to Stafford's first couple of years), but a stud LT will help make the Allen/Matthews/Peppers gauntlet a little more survivable.
 
2012-05-08 12:27:13 PM

Jim from Saint Paul:

I just know the last time we got rid of our older yet steady kicker (Morten Anderson)


tf2chan.net
 
2012-05-08 12:29:39 PM

IAmRight: Come to Seattle, Ryan!


Seattle has (and had) a bunch of former Packers, so he would fit right in!
 
2012-05-08 12:32:42 PM

Jubeebee: Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.

What makes you think the Bears are going to be in the basement this year? Before Chicago's entire offense went on IR, they were tied with DET at 7-3 and had beaten the Lions bloody in week 10.


That division is likely going to be super awesome this year. I could easily see Detroit, Chicago, and Green Bay all making the playoffs this year.
 
2012-05-08 12:33:53 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.


Do you even watch professional football? You must be trolling, because the Bears have proved over the past few years that they're a playoff caliber team*. They aren't even close to the basement.

*Damn injuries.
 
2012-05-08 12:35:00 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: I just know the last time we got rid of our older yet steady kicker (Morten Anderson), we had guys like Aaron Elling.


Elling was horrible. However, Anderson was falling apart. His last season was hardly steady.
 
2012-05-08 12:36:45 PM

Funbags: If the Ponder kid can play worth a damn, the Vikes will flirt with 8-8.

If he can't? Well, there's always Matt Barkley...


The best they can realistically hope for is 2-4 in division, and that's counting on a lot of lucky bounces. 0-6 is more likely, based on how much better the rest of the division is than they are. I'd say 1-5 just because hey, sometimes the better team doesn't win.
 
2012-05-08 12:38:14 PM

This Looks Fun: Jim from Saint Paul: I just know the last time we got rid of our older yet steady kicker (Morten Anderson), we had guys like Aaron Elling.

Elling was horrible. However, Anderson was falling apart. His last season was hardly steady.


Although, now that I think about it, did you mean Gary Anderson? Morten only played 1 full season for Minnesota.
 
2012-05-08 12:48:02 PM
I don't like it, but staring another 3-13 season in the face, it makes sense to get his salary and cap hit off the books now. This was always going to be a multi-year rebuilding process for the Vikes. More high draft picks next year, climb back to mediocrity in '13, and then challenge for the playoffs in '14.
 
2012-05-08 12:54:51 PM
Good Luck to you Ryan! At least he has to know it can't get worse than the Viqueens.....

/GO PACK GO
 
2012-05-08 12:56:22 PM

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: ...and they're putting their faith in Blair Walsh?!?


Dude he was Mr Automatic for your college team for years. Last season something happened but he's a great kicker, and came thru for the Dawgs more times than I can remember
 
2012-05-08 01:14:11 PM
Longwell will probably end up with a contending team that wants a proven, reliable kicker. David Akers was in the playoffs last year (and one win away from the Super Bowl) while his former teammates were home watching on TV.
 
2012-05-08 01:19:21 PM

skrame: Ken VeryBigLiar: /Ugly as in looking battling the Bears for the basement and praying Stafford and Rodgers get broken in half.

Do you even watch professional football? You must be trolling, because the Bears have proved over the past few years that they're a playoff caliber team*. They aren't even close to the basement.

*Damn injuries.


You really think you have the stones to stick with the Lions and Packers? Because if Stafford doesn't get murdered the Bears are staring at the third spot. And if Forte isn't motivated you're down to Cutler, Bush, Marshall and a defense that's old at linebacker. That sounds like a 6-8 win team to me, and anything less than the playoffs gets Lovie fired.
 
2012-05-08 01:25:17 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: You really think you have the stones to stick with the Lions and Packers? Because if Stafford doesn't get murdered the Bears are staring at the third spot. And if Forte isn't motivated you're down to Cutler, Bush, Marshall and a defense that's old at linebacker. That sounds like a 6-8 win team to me, and anything less than the playoffs gets Lovie fired.


I don't even like the Bears and you're crazy. If the Bears had Cutler, Bush, and Marshall last year, they're a 10-win team, at least.
 
2012-05-08 01:36:12 PM

IAmRight: Ken VeryBigLiar: You really think you have the stones to stick with the Lions and Packers? Because if Stafford doesn't get murdered the Bears are staring at the third spot. And if Forte isn't motivated you're down to Cutler, Bush, Marshall and a defense that's old at linebacker. That sounds like a 6-8 win team to me, and anything less than the playoffs gets Lovie fired.

I don't even like the Bears and you're crazy. If the Bears had Cutler, Bush, and Marshall last year, they're a 10-win team, at least.


I'm more saying the distance between Green Bay and Detroit will make it that the Bears and Viking will be left behind to play for pride after week 12, again, unless Stafford gets torn in half. If he goes down, the Bears stand a very improved chance at second but to all the Bear fans that think they can take a wildcard or even the division, slow your respective rolls.
 
2012-05-08 01:37:56 PM

IAmRight: Ken VeryBigLiar: You really think you have the stones to stick with the Lions and Packers? Because if Stafford doesn't get murdered the Bears are staring at the third spot. And if Forte isn't motivated you're down to Cutler, Bush, Marshall and a defense that's old at linebacker. That sounds like a 6-8 win team to me, and anything less than the playoffs gets Lovie fired.

I don't even like the Bears and you're crazy. If the Bears had Cutler, Bush, and Marshall last year, they're a 10-win team, at least.


I'm not convinced that Cutler is good enough. If you had the option of Cutler or one of the following quarterbacks, how many would you take Cutler over: Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Aaron Rogers, Mike Vick, Matt Stafford, Cam Newton, Drew Brees, Ben the Rapist, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning?
 
2012-05-08 01:38:08 PM
ANDERSONNNNNNNNN
 
2012-05-08 01:44:30 PM

meanmutton: I'm not convinced that Cutler is good enough. If you had the option of Cutler or one of the following quarterbacks, how many would you take Cutler over: Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Aaron Rogers, Mike Vick, Matt Stafford, Cam Newton, Drew Brees, Ben the Rapist, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning?


I take him over Vick and Ryan.

I say it's a toss-up with him and Eli and Ben. And if Rivers plays like he did last year again and Cutler has a good season again, I might even take him over Rivers.

For this season, I take him over Newton, too - if it were a trade, I probably stick with Newton because fewer injuries and longer window for potential success, but I think Newton's going to drop his production this year - he dropped off a lot over the course of the season in terms of total yardage.

Then there's the injury thing to deal with with him, Stafford, and Peyton Manning. I probably take him over Manning, especially with the Bears' O-Line. He can move better, and he's going to have to move. Stafford is good, to be sure, but I think Cutler can be as good when he has comparable weaponry.

So the only people I'd take over him, no question, are Brady, Rodgers, and Brees.

/and this is coming from Fark's former No. 1 Cutler-hater
 
2012-05-08 01:47:13 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Hey, if they REALLY think the kid will be able to kick field goals, fine.

I just know the last time we got rid of our older yet steady kicker (Morten Anderson), we had guys like Aaron Elling.

Missing extra points.

IN THE PRE-SEASON.


I put it this way: our Vikings are already ensuring us to not even bother having hope for this season. It frees up the emotions for other endeavors when you are preconditioned toward disappointment.
 
2012-05-08 02:22:42 PM

IAmRight: meanmutton: I'm not convinced that Cutler is good enough. If you had the option of Cutler or one of the following quarterbacks, how many would you take Cutler over: Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Aaron Rogers, Mike Vick, Matt Stafford, Cam Newton, Drew Brees, Ben the Rapist, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning?

I take him over Vick and Ryan.

I say it's a toss-up with him and Eli and Ben. And if Rivers plays like he did last year again and Cutler has a good season again, I might even take him over Rivers.

For this season, I take him over Newton, too - if it were a trade, I probably stick with Newton because fewer injuries and longer window for potential success, but I think Newton's going to drop his production this year - he dropped off a lot over the course of the season in terms of total yardage.

Then there's the injury thing to deal with with him, Stafford, and Peyton Manning. I probably take him over Manning, especially with the Bears' O-Line. He can move better, and he's going to have to move. Stafford is good, to be sure, but I think Cutler can be as good when he has comparable weaponry.

So the only people I'd take over him, no question, are Brady, Rodgers, and Brees.

/and this is coming from Fark's former No. 1 Cutler-hater


Umm... Cutler's had two straight season-ending injuries. Granted, the 2010 injury was in the last game of the year but still...
 
2012-05-08 02:23:35 PM
Good luck, Longwell.

In any event, I think this is a good move on the part of the Vikings. No point in paying for an A list kicker if you've got at least 2 years of rebuilding to get back to being a potential playoff team. Might as well find out if the kid you drafted can handle the job.
 
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