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(Sports Illustrated)   Someone in talks to buy the Phoenix Coyotes. Presumably by accident   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 11
    More: Followup, coyotes, Jerry Moyes, NHL Commissioner, Gary Bettman, Goldwater Institute, Jim Balsillie, Glendale City Council, Arizona Constitution  
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2012-05-08 12:35:32 PM  
2 votes:
It's not even worth responding to some of you in this derp fest, but here's what I will say:

1) Look at what Jamison did with the Sharks when he was running things there. He knows what it takes to be successful in a non-traditional market. Is this going to be a bigger challenge than the SF Bay Area? Yeah but...

2) What has been built by GM Don Maloney, coach Dave Tippett and the rest of the organization while dealing with all this crap is nothing short of remarkable and we're all seeing the fruits of that labor now. Jamison probably feels like he's won the lottery with the timing of this.

3) Fan support- as I've said over the last couple of days, this team is dealing with the effects of what I'm calling the "attention whore" era of the Coyotes. It was the era where the team sucked balls and ownership worried more about getting deals that boosted their other businesses than putting winning teams on the ice (which those of us who have followed this team from day 1 put almost all blame on Wayne Gretzky for because he hired his cronies to run the team instead of competent people. If you even remotely follow the NBA, we were the Charlotte Bobcats).

What happened yesterday on the ice and off might go down as the biggest day in Coyotes history. The win on the ice means that they stay the talk of the Valley of the Sun for another 2-3 weeks and hopefully longer (and this area rallies around winning teams like no other city does). The win off the ice (should no c*cksucking lawyers come along to f*ck things up) is the sign to everyone that this franchise is making a long term commitment to the area, which was the only thing that kept a lot of fans from making that commitment to the Coyotes in return.

After this spring, there are no more excuses for the Coyotes to succeed on the ice and off. If we, the fans, aren't damn near filling that arena every night next season; then we fail and the Coyotes should move.
2012-05-08 11:18:36 AM  
2 votes:

Bobo_Spiewack: Someday, I will hopefully get an explanation of why the Coyotes were allowed to hemmorage money and be a burden on the financial structure of the whole league for so long when it was pretty clearly demonstrated that the city officials and a very big chunk of the populace really did not care. How long has the drama been playing out there? 5, 6 years?

But Atlanta, under the same circumstances, was ripped away with nary a whimper from the league. And Pittsburgh also had to fight and almost moved.

It just smells fishy. What's so special about Phoenix?


Pittsburgh was a major power play by Bettman and Lemieux to extract a new arena from the city and state. And it worked like a charm. Bettman spent years trying to find a new owner for the Thrashers (just as he did the Jets in 1993-95). There was literally nobody interested in owning a team in Atlanta. And given Bettman's ability to find a sucker to take over pretty much every other team is a damning indictment of Atlanta's market. The difference between Phoenix and Atlanta is that the Moyes/Balsillie bankruptcy plan forced the league to deal with Phoenix under a spotlight.

Bettman is an easy man to loathe, but he is farking brilliant. If you put aside the emotional arguments, it is actually pretty amazing to see what he's pulled off here. He beat back Balsillie's bankruptcy scam. A scam, incidentally, that would have crippled all of the major leagues' ability to control where their franchises were located. And while the league was forced to take on the Coyotes as owners as a result, Bettman managed to convince Glendale to eat $50 million in losses over two years. Jamieson is now the fourth sucker he's found with an interest (four more than existed in Atlanta). And whether or not this deal succeeds or falls apart like the rest, Bettman has Quebec City, Seattle and Hamilton/Toronto/Markham salivating at the possibility of a team. All three markets are willing to build new rinks and all three are willing to pay huge expansion/relocation fees. Even if the Coyotes stay put and the Islanders remain in the metro New York area, these markets are in play. And expansion to 32 teams will give the existing owners hundreds of millions of dollars.

The Coyotes have never been profitable in Phoenix, and I doubt they ever will. Jamieson is going to lose on this deal. Glendale is going to lose on this deal. But Bettman is going to win. And hes going to make his employers boatloads of money in the process.
2012-05-08 03:04:11 PM  
1 votes:

I_Love_Cheesecake: /shorter regular season would help, too


Obviously you're not a drinker.
2012-05-08 02:05:42 PM  
1 votes:
You'll only see Americans praising Gary Bettman

come to Canada, he's the most hated man here
2012-05-08 01:50:42 PM  
1 votes:

I_Love_Cheesecake: The NHL needs to contract, not expand. Get rid of, say, Phoenix, Dallas, Floria and Columbus, and then we'd have a better league.


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2012-05-08 01:22:44 PM  
1 votes:

Resolute: And expansion to 32 teams will give the existing owners hundreds of millions of dollars.


The NHL needs to contract, not expand. Get rid of, say, Phoenix, Dallas, Floria and Columbus, and then we'd have a better league.

/shorter regular season would help, too
2012-05-08 12:38:40 PM  
1 votes:
cdn.nhl.com

/Kings in 6
2012-05-08 11:57:14 AM  
1 votes:

FreakinB: No offense, but the guy with the thoughful, well-reasoned post is going to come off a lot better than the guy who just name-calls. Bettman is far from perfect, but I agree with Resolute. He's done a much better job in certain areas than he's given credit for,


I've been able to see every playoff game I wanted to see this year on TV, for the first time ever. The league recently signed its most lucrative TV deal ever. The parity of the league means teams with solid coaching and management can compete against free-spending teams. The Winter Classic is awesome. HBO's series around the Winter Classic is awesome. Love them or hate them, the league has personalities that you know of. You may hate hockey in Phoenix, but a butt-ton of new eyes are watching the sport who wouldn't have if there weren't hockey there. You can't grow the game if you only cater to people where the markets are established. Other than the inconsistent punishment for cheap shots, I'm having a hard time finding reasons why Gary Bettman isn't the exact guy the league's owners want for that job. He's making them rich.
2012-05-08 11:22:58 AM  
1 votes:
Bettman hates Canada
2012-05-08 10:44:28 AM  
1 votes:
Someday, I will hopefully get an explanation of why the Coyotes were allowed to hemmorage money and be a burden on the financial structure of the whole league for so long when it was pretty clearly demonstrated that the city officials and a very big chunk of the populace really did not care. How long has the drama been playing out there? 5, 6 years?

But Atlanta, under the same circumstances, was ripped away with nary a whimper from the league. And Pittsburgh also had to fight and almost moved.

It just smells fishy. What's so special about Phoenix?
2012-05-08 10:31:48 AM  
1 votes:
Bob_Laublaw:
I don't believe that hockey should be played in the desert; it just shouldn't be played in apathetic cities. everywhere


ftfm
 
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