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(Some Meta-Study Guy)   Meh: Journalist doesn't like a study done on file-sharing used to promote SOPA. Interesting: Decides to post 20 studies to counter the studies claims   (zeropaid.com) divider line 21
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2910 clicks; posted to Geek » on 08 May 2012 at 11:35 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-05-08 11:43:22 AM  
Naturally
 
2012-05-08 12:03:35 PM  
duh.

I pirated Avengers a full week before it came out, but I'm paying to go see it tonight.
 
2012-05-08 12:04:24 PM  
Way too little spare brain-power today to read some dry studies. If anyone else reads it, a Cliff Notes version would be appreciated.
 
2012-05-08 12:04:27 PM  
This guy needs to be fired...What he is doing looks dangerously like Journalism and may give other reporters a bad name.
 
2012-05-08 12:19:34 PM  

Weidbrewer: If anyone else reads it, a Cliff Notes version would be appreciated.


Cliff Notes Version:
Are the past 20 studies about the effects of P2P file-sharing in agreement with the one used by the RIAA to promote SOPA?

No.
 
2012-05-08 12:21:40 PM  

KSCA75: This guy needs to be fired...What he is doing looks dangerously like Journalism and may give other reporters a bad name.

 
2012-05-08 12:26:13 PM  

Girion47: duh.

I pirated Avengers a full week before it came out, but I'm paying to go see it tonight.


I got a cam the day it came out. Motivate me to pay to see it just for "that scene".

Will most likely buy the DvD as well.
 
2012-05-08 12:31:12 PM  
Decides to post 20 studies to counter the studies claims
counter the studies claims
studies claims
 
2012-05-08 12:43:56 PM  
"Instead, those citations contained data that undermined the studies study's conclusions"

Fixed that for you. Which I shouldn't have to do if you were a serious and capable journalist.
 
2012-05-08 12:57:36 PM  
My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.
 
2012-05-08 01:00:20 PM  

cefm: "Instead, those citations contained data that undermined the studies study's conclusions"

Fixed that for you. Which I shouldn't have to do if you were a serious and capable journalist.


Don't blame the worker for having an incompetent boss.

The editor was supposed to fix that.
 
2012-05-08 01:21:55 PM  
Idiot journalist. He's not supposed to look at facts or consequences. He is supposed to moralize. Don't you realize that piracy is theft? The fact that there's no meaningful harm to the "victim" has nothing to do with anything. IT'S THEFT. Don't you people understand that? Pirating a movie or a song is exactly the same as stealing a car, in that they both require technical skills and I am a complete idiot that understands nothing.

By the way, I'm running for Senator. Vote me!
 
2012-05-08 01:35:55 PM  

farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.


So, no different than paying the mob for "protection" amirite?
 
2012-05-08 01:58:44 PM  
Who do we need media companies anymore?

They could easily create alternate channels around digital distribution. Hell, give the songs away.

Most band revenue comes from touring and merchandising anyway.
 
2012-05-08 02:29:46 PM  

Weidbrewer: Way too little spare brain-power today to read some dry studies. If anyone else reads it, a Cliff Notes version would be appreciated.


P2P has little to no demonstrable effect on sales of media. The people maligned as pirates are also the biggest group of people paying for media/services/shopping on-line. It can be proven that harassing pirates is indeed pissing off your largest group of paying customers as they are, in fact, one and the same.

That Cliff Note enough for you?
 
2012-05-08 02:35:15 PM  

farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.


A fair theory given the vast majority of effort shown in the media is about portraying places like TPB as evil whilst Chinese and Russian fab plants continue to pump out very good counterfeits of products largely unabated or reported.

In some respects the counterfeits seem to be of higher quality than the genuine article as well, I cite the dodgy OEM copy of XP-Pro I've got as an example of this; the cellophane wrapper was a thicker and heavier quality than the legit version, the disc also appeared chunkier and more substantial.
 
2012-05-08 08:17:02 PM  

farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.


The majority of artists are well aware that they need protection from a record company.
 
2012-05-08 10:16:37 PM  

farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.


I thought Terry Pratchett was just being cute when he described the Musician's Guild as the most nasty and brutal in all of Discworld (at least the Assassin's Guild has scruples).

It's become much less funny to me these past 15 years or so.
 
2012-05-08 11:14:45 PM  

Vaneshi: farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.

A fair theory given the vast majority of effort shown in the media is about portraying places like TPB as evil whilst Chinese and Russian fab plants continue to pump out very good counterfeits of products largely unabated or reported.

In some respects the counterfeits seem to be of higher quality than the genuine article as well, I cite the dodgy OEM copy of XP-Pro I've got as an example of this; the cellophane wrapper was a thicker and heavier quality than the legit version, the disc also appeared chunkier and more substantial.


what about the BSOD, does the blue look blueyer?
 
2012-05-08 11:38:10 PM  

Girion47:
what about the BSOD, does the blue look blueyer?


No, I never really had those issues with XP on my own machines. Besides, there is so little packaging on the OEM versions what else is there to compare? We all know the holograms and such would of looked genuine.
 
2012-05-09 12:53:33 AM  

farkeruk: My theory is that the anti-piracy lawsuits and the exaggerations about piracy aren't about stopping piracy. They're about convincing artists that there's a problem, for which they need protection from a record company.


No, it is about getting corporate control of the internet through government proxy.
 
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