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(Daily Kos)   John McCain, 2008: "No ma'am, he's not an Arab, he's a good man." Mitt Romney, 2012: "Treason? I'll be happy to look into it." w/video   (dailykos.com) divider line 141
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2012-05-08 08:16:31 AM  
Not the best answers he could have given

I think that politicians should practice for these kinds of events, meeting crackpot loonies.

/Also, isnt it kinda sad that Romney knows not the definition of Treason under the US Constitution?
 
2012-05-08 08:31:48 AM  
I'm beginning to wonder if maybe R'Money may just have multiple personalities.
 
2012-05-08 08:34:05 AM  
Looks like the latest service pack of Rmoney 2012 wasn't installed yet.
 
2012-05-08 08:53:56 AM  

cman: Not the best answers he could have given


That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.
 
2012-05-08 09:02:17 AM  

RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.


Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.
 
2012-05-08 09:03:42 AM  

RexTalionis: That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.


There's no need to compare the day to day pandering of the Romneybot to the Kent State shootings. Really.
 
2012-05-08 09:07:47 AM  

Somacandra: RexTalionis: That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

There's no need to compare the day to day pandering of the Romneybot to the Kent State shootings. Really.


The operative comparison is the understatement, not the shootings themselves.

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


I probably would've taken the McCain route, only with much harsher language.
 
2012-05-08 09:14:44 AM  
It happens in pretty much every election. It's what happens when you depend on gullible idiots for votes. Both sides do this, but one side does it more, as we can see here.
 
2012-05-08 09:23:13 AM  

xanadian: I'm beginning to wonder if maybe R'Money may just have multiple personalities.


it's the opposite. he has no personality. he simply absorbs whatever personality his CPU calculates would be appropriate for any given moment.
 
2012-05-08 09:24:58 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: It happens in pretty much every election. It's what happens when you depend on gullible idiots for votes. Both sides do this, but one side does it more, as we can see here.


Like the scene in Game Change where McCain(Ed Harris) is at a rally and the crowd is shouting things about Obama being a muslin, a terrorist, and an African and he has the 'my god, what is wrong with these people' look on his face.

But yeah, you hear more crazy derp at conservative rallies than you do at liberal ones. Not a whole lot more but it is crazier on the right.
 
2012-05-08 09:37:08 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


As Subby pointed out in the headline, McCain had a similar moment 4 years ago and handled it just fine.

/Granted, he lost the election...
 
2012-05-08 09:40:53 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?


Like this
 
2012-05-08 09:41:06 AM  
More evidence that Romney just says whatever the person he is talking to wants him to say.
 
2012-05-08 09:41:31 AM  

mainstreet62: Looks like the latest service pack of Rmoney 2012 wasn't installed yet.


Naw, it's a feature of his programming. Do and say anything to ensure that he will get a vote from a person even if that directly contradicts what he did or said to another person to get their vote.
 
2012-05-08 09:41:50 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.



That's the man I want to be president. When confronted with something out of the ordinary I want him to not know what the fark to do. That's my president.
 
2012-05-08 09:42:31 AM  
Why would he correct her? I mean sure, a decent person would have but I don't expect that out of Romney.

He's cultivating this bullshiat. He wants it. Listen to what he says about Obama: he doesn't get America, doesn't share American values, bows to foreigners and repeatedly makes excuses for America.

Shiat, this lady threw him a softball. Swing and a miss however you slice it though.
 
2012-05-08 09:43:07 AM  
Wow, the Republicans found someone with even less honor and personal integrity then John McCain to be their candidate this cycle.
 
2012-05-08 09:43:16 AM  
That man has no moral center.
 
2012-05-08 09:43:17 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Not a whole lot more but it is crazier on the right.


The difference is that the Democrats do everything possible to let progressives know how much they despise them as they court the "independent" vote. For the Republicans, crazy is the base.
 
2012-05-08 09:43:37 AM  

Headso: More evidence that Romney just says whatever the person he is talking to wants him to say.


Absolutely.

Of course, anyone who's been paying attention noticed Rmoney's duplicitousness long, long ago.
 
2012-05-08 09:45:05 AM  

FarkedOver: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


That's the man I want to be president. When confronted with something out of the ordinary I want him to not know what the fark to do. That's my president.


I remember back in the primary debates from the last presidential election, when asked how he would deal with Iran, he said, "Well, first I'd consult with my lawyers..."

Romney - a portrait in leadership. If you painted it with your feces.
 
2012-05-08 09:45:30 AM  

cman: How would you have handled it?


I would have shown I want to be the leader of my party by putting the crazies in their place instead of pandering to them.

The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.
 
2012-05-08 09:45:56 AM  

FarkedOver: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


That's the man I want to be president. When confronted with something out of the ordinary I want him to not know what the fark to do. That's my president.


If he can be ambushed and rendered speechless by some lunatic at his own rally rally, how's he going to deal with the likes of Putin or the Chinese?
 
2012-05-08 09:46:03 AM  
So, today we aren't upset that there are free speech zones? Or we only get upset when they are set up during the Democratic National Convention.
 
2012-05-08 09:46:18 AM  
I didn't really see anything in the video to be upset about, but I did see this story last night. The woman began asking a question and some other moran near her made a comment about treason and the woman, interrupted, 'joked' that she agreed he (Obama) should be tried for treason... at that point, they cut the video and the commentator said that she went on a long spiel about executive orders, etc. Then they showed video of Romney response where he did not address the comment about treason.

Frankly, I think this is a bit of a manufactured outrage here. The issue of treason was clearly not the focus of the woman's comment/question and Romney addressed what she was focused on. I'm ok with this.
 
2012-05-08 09:47:02 AM  

hinten: So, today we aren't upset that there are free speech zones? Or we only get upset when they are set up during the Democratic National Convention.


Huh?
 
2012-05-08 09:48:08 AM  
That wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. Romney could have handled it better, but the lady in this video wasn't quite as crazy/decrepit as the woman who called Obama an Arab. Also, in McCain's situation (I just re-watched the video), he was standing right in front of her and was able to take the mic away as soon as she said "Arab." Romney just let the mic wander around unsupervised....that may have been the biggest mistake. Never give the rabble an open mic without either the candidate or a campaign worker of some sort standing by to say "Thank you for your comments" and take it out of their hands.
 
2012-05-08 09:48:26 AM  

Forgot_my_password_again: cman: How would you have handled it?

I would have shown I want to be the leader of my party by putting the crazies in their place instead of pandering to them.

The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.


There are a LOT of crazies in this country.

Some people simply can't handle the fact that a black Democrat is president.
 
2012-05-08 09:49:21 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.




sorta points to the heart of the problem doesn't it?

The GOP has to rely on the nuts they've actively cultivated for years. They let the crazy spin out of control because they were going on the idea that anything negative about their opponent must be good for them. No matter how absolutely insane the crazies got, no one of any weight in the GOP would speak up because they couldn't see how this would be bad for their side.

Romney can't just say what should be the obvious answer, "uh, no that's crazy talk...next"

This is a major issue for the GOP, the nuts are taking over the asylum, and it's their own short sighted nasty politics that brought it about.

hold on, it'll get worse before it gets better.
 
2012-05-08 09:49:26 AM  
Good lord, cman, this is weak even for you. I'm worried about you, buddy. You doing ok?
 
2012-05-08 09:49:37 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Wow, the Republicans found someone with even less as much honor and personal integrity then John McCain Sarah Palin to be their candidate this cycle.


Yep. They dumped McCain to go Man-Sarah!
 
2012-05-08 09:51:32 AM  
Meanwhile, waterboarding is not torture, warrantless wiretaps are constitutional and invading a broke-dick third world quagmire of a country while simultaneously cutting revenue to finance it did not hurt the US economy in any way.
 
2012-05-08 09:51:48 AM  

BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this


That was pretty awesome.

There's also the line about playing chess with a pigeon. They're just going to knock over the pieces, take a shiat on the board and then fly away back to their friends to brag about their victory.
 
2012-05-08 09:51:49 AM  

Forgot_my_password_again: The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.


No, there are still craizes on the Left, but they're not the sort of people the SS would allow into a rally with a presidential candidate. Think odd clothing choices and too much patchoulli.
 
2012-05-08 09:52:23 AM  
Congratulations, America. You're f*cking retarded.
 
2012-05-08 09:52:54 AM  
TREASON MUST ALWAYS BE PUNISHED.

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-05-08 09:53:55 AM  
I can't wait until Mitt secures Zion for us and the rest of you burn in hell.
 
2012-05-08 09:54:09 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Forgot_my_password_again: The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.

No, there are still craizes on the Left, but they're not the sort of people the SS would allow into a rally with a presidential candidate. Think odd clothing choices and too much patchoulli.


I think you misunderstood him. He said that the only people remaining firmly on the right are crazy, not that there are no crazies on the left.
 
2012-05-08 09:54:25 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


He handled it decently considering the situation, but watch the clip of when McCain had that crazy lady tell him Obama was an Arab. He was standing right in front of her and took the mic back when she got goofy. What Romney needs to learn for the future from this incident is this:

Don't let the mic travel around the room unsupervised. Either keep the candidate or a campaign worker carrying the mic around. Heck, the campaign worker could even hold the mic up to the person's face. That way you can just take the mic away from them at the first sign of crazy. Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Again, I don't think this incident reveals anything about Romney that we didn't already know. He's a socially awkward dude who sometimes doesn't handle the unexpected that well. This incident reveals more about his campaign, in that they aren't taking enough precautions and possibly overlooking some details.
 
2012-05-08 09:54:36 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Forgot_my_password_again: The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.

No, there are still craizes on the Left, but they're not the sort of people the SS would allow into a rally with a presidential candidate. Think odd clothing choices and too much patchoulli.


Ironically, today the lefty crazies are going on trial in Cleveland for wanting to blow up a bridge. Lefties can be nuts too.
 
2012-05-08 09:55:51 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.



Solid presidential timber.
 
2012-05-08 09:56:19 AM  
scrapetv.com

what the GOP's voice of reason might look like
 
2012-05-08 09:56:56 AM  
I'm pretty sure there were people asking for members of the Bush Admin to be investigated for treason, what with the Iraq War, WMD, etc. Being president is a special club....once you're in the club you can't taddle on anyone else in the club until they are dead.
 
2012-05-08 09:57:11 AM  

quatchi: That man has no moral center.


Nope. Just nougat.
 
MFK
2012-05-08 09:57:25 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


I dunno? Maybe showing a little integrity might have been a good idea?
 
2012-05-08 09:57:33 AM  

LarryDan43: I can't wait until Mitt secures Zion for us and the rest of you burn in hell.


Um, I don't know what religion you think Mitt Romney practices, but I'm pretty sure that Mormons believe in a form of universal salvation.
 
2012-05-08 09:57:34 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.


Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.
 
2012-05-08 09:57:45 AM  
Want to see this come up in the debates.

"So, did you get a chance to look into whether or not I've committed treason, Mitt? How'd that go for you?"
 
2012-05-08 09:58:15 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Forgot_my_password_again: The problem is, the right only has the crazies left.

No, there are still craizes on the Left, but they're not the sort of people the SS would allow into a rally with a presidential candidate. Think odd clothing choices and too much patchoulli.


As has been said before, both sides have their crazies, but on the Right, the crazies are part of their base. Also, it's telling that when the left-wing candidate meets a crazy, it's usually a right-wing crazy.
 
2012-05-08 09:59:05 AM  

Serious Black: LarryDan43: I can't wait until Mitt secures Zion for us and the rest of you burn in hell.

Um, I don't know what religion you think Mitt Romney practices, but I'm pretty sure that Mormons believe in a form of universal salvation.


Oh you think that grain tower is for you?
 
2012-05-08 09:59:54 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."


He can't campaign on the issues. The issues he promotes were already tried under GWB and they were abject failures. The only way he can win is by being a shiat slinging moron and he knows it.
 
2012-05-08 10:00:47 AM  

Serious Black: I think you misunderstood him. He said that the only people remaining firmly on the right are crazy, not that there are no crazies on the left.


this.
 
2012-05-08 10:00:56 AM  

Serious Black: I think you misunderstood him. He said that the only people remaining firmly on the right are crazy, not that there are no crazies on the left.


Ah. It's early and I need coffee.

That I definitely agree with.

/Lefty
//Grew up around the sort of people you wouldn't let near a candidate
 
2012-05-08 10:01:01 AM  

hinten: So, today we aren't upset that there are free speech zones? Or we only get upset when they are set up during the Democratic National Convention.


Do you whine like a c*nt in the rest of your life or just here on Fark?
 
2012-05-08 10:01:12 AM  

BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this


www.codinghorror.com
 
2012-05-08 10:01:24 AM  
Mitt Romney is a pandering, lying piece of sh*t.
 
2012-05-08 10:01:32 AM  

fosborb: Want to see this come up in the debates.

"So, did you get a chance to look into whether or not I've committed treason, Mitt? How'd that go for you?"


Although I love this idea with all my heart, there's no way the Mitt campaign will agree to any debate where the President gets to question him directly. It would be embarrassing, especially if Mitt reflexively agrees with everything the President says.
 
2012-05-08 10:01:49 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


The way Obama handled Joe the Plumber?
 
2012-05-08 10:01:58 AM  
Watching those teahadists cheer her on made me cringe...I'm just gonna park this here....


Link
 
2012-05-08 10:02:02 AM  
Perhaps I need to see more context, but all I heard was a woman babbling without actually making any specific accusations or making a real point. There was nothing to refute. How else should Romney have replied? I suppose "Ma'am, I don't understand what you're getting at" would have been a bit better.

The "arab" question to McCain was at least specific enough that he could give a firm answer.
 
2012-05-08 10:02:37 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


And that's exactly what I look for in the commander-in-chief and leader of the free world.
 
2012-05-08 10:02:39 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.


My point was that running over to yank the mic out of her hands wouldn't have been a great way to handle that either. Prepare for the crazy, and get ready to either physically take the mic out of someone's hand, or have the sound guy ready to kill it at a moment's notice.
 
2012-05-08 10:02:51 AM  
And when Romney back peddled he only said Obama shouldn't be "tried" for treason. Not that Obama hasn't committed it.

What an ass.
 
2012-05-08 10:03:27 AM  
Welcome to the next presidential term. Regardless who wins. If Rmoney wins, the GOP's first order of business will be to put ()bama on trial for treason. If ()bama wins, the GOP's first order of business will be to impeach him, and then put him on trial for treason.
 
2012-05-08 10:04:14 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.

My point was that running over to yank the mic out of her hands wouldn't have been a great way to handle that either. Prepare for the crazy, and get ready to either physically take the mic out of someone's hand, or have the sound guy ready to kill it at a moment's notice.


I guess integrity wasn't an option, huh?
 
2012-05-08 10:04:24 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.

My point was that running over to yank the mic out of her hands wouldn't have been a great way to handle that either. Prepare for the crazy, and get ready to either physically take the mic out of someone's hand, or have the sound guy ready to kill it at a moment's notice.


Or he could of just said "no I don't think he should be tried for treason". That seems pretty easy.
 
2012-05-08 10:05:11 AM  

threedingers: Perhaps I need to see more context, but all I heard was a woman babbling without actually making any specific accusations or making a real point. There was nothing to refute. How else should Romney have replied? I suppose "Ma'am, I don't understand what you're getting at" would have been a bit better.

The "arab" question to McCain was at least specific enough that he could give a firm answer.


In the more complete video, the lady says "I agree he should be charged with treason." But it sounds like it's kind of an aside to someone nearby her. It's stupid and lying rhetoric, BUT it isn't 100% analogous to the McCain/Arab incident.
 
2012-05-08 10:05:32 AM  
That question was Mitt's form of confirmation bias. Why would he call out someone for being wrong on a view he'd support?
 
2012-05-08 10:06:10 AM  
Christ, it's May and we're already into "Palin' around with terrorist" territory. Get control of your farking crowd, Mitt.
 
2012-05-08 10:07:31 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.

My point was that running over to yank the mic out of her hands wouldn't have been a great way to handle that either. Prepare for the crazy, and get ready to either physically take the mic out of someone's hand, or have the sound guy ready to kill it at a moment's notice.

I guess integrity wasn't an option, huh?


He's a Republican. Why do you think integrity would be on the table? I am taking the POV of the Romney campaign, which means figuring out how to win the election without alienating the kind of retard who says these things. Taking the "integrity" route isn't really a winner in the GOP/Fox news world.
 
2012-05-08 10:09:15 AM  

Corvus: HMS_Blinkin: Philip Francis Queeg: HMS_Blinkin: Romney couldn't have done much better in the situation, but he/his campaign could have prepared better for an eventuality like this.

Bullshiat.

All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

The asshole was either too cowardly to say that, or is happy benefit from that type of rhetoric.

My point was that running over to yank the mic out of her hands wouldn't have been a great way to handle that either. Prepare for the crazy, and get ready to either physically take the mic out of someone's hand, or have the sound guy ready to kill it at a moment's notice.

Or he could of just said "no I don't think he should be tried for treason". That seems pretty easy.


See my response to PFQ. He's a modern Republican. So no, it wouldn't be pretty easy. From his perspective, the best bet is to manage the crazy and try to sweep it under the rug.
 
2012-05-08 10:11:27 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: Christ, it's May and we're already into "Palin' around with terrorist" territory. Get control of your farking crowd, Mitt.


Listen, and understand. That derp-crowd is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until Liberalism is dead.
 
2012-05-08 10:12:19 AM  

quatchi: That man has no moral center.


True. And it's especially relevant when Romney belongs to a faith that places so much emphasis on personal morality.
I actually admire the Mormons -- and the Amish -- for living the life and being true to their faith, even though it's not for me.
That Romney would pander to paranoid crazies to get some votes leads me to question what he won't dump overboard to get elected.
 
2012-05-08 10:12:52 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: Christ, it's May and we're already into "Palin' around with terrorist" territory. Get control of your farking crowd, Mitt.


Mitt (the lying, pandering piece of sh*t) Romney's crowd has always been in that territory. He's just desperately trying to claw his way out of that territory and into centerville for the general.
 
2012-05-08 10:13:20 AM  

Cinaed: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.

The way Obama handled Joe the Plumber?


You mean by answering "Joe's" the original question instead of being led off on a tangent by a flat-tax change of subject? Or by providing Faux New footage that they could air with the sound cut so they could talk about him as if he were saying the things they want you to think he said?

Difficult to avoid the latter.
 
2012-05-08 10:13:21 AM  

Glenford: BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this

That was pretty awesome.

There's also the line about playing chess with a pigeon. They're just going to knock over the pieces, take a shiat on the board and then fly away back to their friends to brag about their victory.


I like the one, "Son, never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and you'll just end up annoying the pig."
 
2012-05-08 10:14:24 AM  
Treason = passing laws and stuff I don't like.
 
2012-05-08 10:15:18 AM  

hinten: So, today we aren't upset that there are free speech zones? Or we only get upset when they are set up during the Democratic National Convention.



So today we're complaining about something that, when initiated under a Republican president, we heard crickets from the Right?
 
2012-05-08 10:15:43 AM  
the Repugs are getting more desperate for tax cuts for their wealthy Owners.
 
2012-05-08 10:19:19 AM  
And just think, he was the least crazy of the potential GOP candidates this year.
 
2012-05-08 10:19:30 AM  

Citrate1007: I'm pretty sure there were people asking for members of the Bush Admin to be investigated for treason, what with the Iraq War, WMD, etc. Being president is a special club....once you're in the club you can't taddle on anyone else in the club until they are dead.


Lying to the public to start a trillion dollar war is different than trying to get people health coverage and possibly overstepping the constitution.

Maybe that's just my opinion. I wasn't calling for a treason trial for bush mind you, but this should be obvious.
 
2012-05-08 10:20:02 AM  
 
2012-05-08 10:20:26 AM  

JAYoung: quatchi: That man has no moral center.

True. And it's especially relevant when Romney belongs to a faith that places so much emphasis on personal morality.
I actually admire the Mormons -- and the Amish -- for living the life and being true to their faith, even though it's not for me.
That Romney would pander to paranoid crazies to get some votes leads me to question what he won't dump overboard to get elected.


You may want to look a little deeper into the Mormon faith and the correlation to their real life behaviors. Starters: Utah leads the US in downloading of porn and sexual assaults on children.
 
2012-05-08 10:20:59 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


You call it being confronted with a looney. They call it rallying the base.
 
2012-05-08 10:21:57 AM  
The clip is actually less gassbaggy and conspiratorial than I thought, given the headline. On a derp scale it barely clears a 4/10.

I love Mitten's response though - "I'm not familiar with those particular executive orders..." aka "What the farking fark are you talking about?"

This is your base, it are does belong to you.
 
2012-05-08 10:22:18 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


Just like when in one of the debates when he was asked what what was the biggest misconception about him and he answered with something completely unrelated and then was just rude to the moderator.

If you can hit him with a strong enough question outside his programming you can force a compiling error which will cause him to recite the Pledge of Allegiance while he reboots in safemode. If you interrupt him during that he will chew your face off.
 
2012-05-08 10:23:43 AM  

monoski: tah leads the US in downloading of porn and sexual assaults on children.


It's not sexual assault if you marry the child.
 
2012-05-08 10:24:38 AM  

BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this


To be honest, Barney was just saying what we are all thinking. I love it.
 
2012-05-08 10:32:51 AM  
Two things are a given for any GOP nominee now. He needs to pander to the absolute craziest nutjobs in the Tea Party to get the nomination. Then he needs to desperately drag himself back toward the center for the second half of the campaign. It's inevitable that he will get the exact kinds of questions you'd expect from the base he had to pander to. It's the one certainty for which he should be totally prepared. There's no excuse not to be. Either he's running a terrible, flat-footed campaign, or he simply has no moral center and "contentedly saying nothing in the face of evil crazy" is his authentic response. Or both.
 
2012-05-08 10:33:16 AM  
Both sides have their loons but only one embraces them. Stay classy (and clueless), Romney.

/I'll curse McCain 'til the day he dies for the Palin debacle, but at least he showed some class.
 
2012-05-08 10:33:43 AM  
"The woman said she was concerned about executive orders supposedly limiting the ability to protest in the vicinity of the Secret Service."

Truly History's GREATEST monster.

points and laughs at all the so-called "Liberals" in the thread.

/Daily Kos, go figure.
 
2012-05-08 10:33:48 AM  
Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

themoderatevoice.com
 
2012-05-08 10:33:58 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Taking the "integrity" route isn't really a winner in the GOP/Fox news world.


Except in accusing Demon-rats of lacking integrity.
 
2012-05-08 10:34:12 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


McCain specialized in the Town Hall Meeting format, and has been dealing with these types of crazies his whole life. I remember him dealing with these types even back in the 2000 primaries. Romney has no experience with this situation because of the relatively tame, moderate Massachusetts crowds.
 
2012-05-08 10:35:14 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?


I would have said in no uncertain terms that this kind of rhetoric has no place in the public discourse, and will accomplish nothing to help with the problems that face the country. What would YOU have said?

cman: I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


Gee, ya think? Apparently the man has no core convictions whatsoever. He's been pandering to crazy right wing loons for the past 5 years. He should know how to deal with them by now. The above response should be a farking ganglion response to crap like this for anyone who fancies himself worthy to be President of the United States.
 
2012-05-08 10:36:44 AM  

mrshowrules: If you can hit him with a strong enough question outside his programming you can force a compiling error which will cause him to recite the Pledge of Allegiance while he reboots in safemode. If you interrupt him during that he will chew your face off.


hookedonhouses.net

"How could you do a thing like that ... when I was just going to give you coffee."
 
Heb
2012-05-08 10:38:25 AM  
Romney is utterly devoid of integrity.
 
2012-05-08 10:38:53 AM  

keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]


That poster's ridiculous.

I mean, everyone knows MOMA is in Midtown, not Chelsea.
 
2012-05-08 10:40:02 AM  
I know it's been said, but there really is no there, there, is there?

I mean, Romney'll say anything, any time, to anyone if he thinks it'll slightly improve his chances of winning. There's no core, there's no central being, there's nothing of substance you can grab ahold of and say, "THIS is Romney". There's just smoke and sound. Amazing.
 
2012-05-08 10:41:04 AM  

monoski: JAYoung: quatchi: That man has no moral center.

True. And it's especially relevant when Romney belongs to a faith that places so much emphasis on personal morality.
I actually admire the Mormons -- and the Amish -- for living the life and being true to their faith, even though it's not for me.
That Romney would pander to paranoid crazies to get some votes leads me to question what he won't dump overboard to get elected.

You may want to look a little deeper into the Mormon faith and the correlation to their real life behaviors. Starters: Utah leads the US in downloading of porn and sexual assaults on children.


In my experience, the most religious and fundamentalist people tend to be the ones with the highest preoccupation and lowest development with sex. It's damn near impossible to go from thinking "sex is awful and you should never have it" to "sex is beautiful and you should have it all the time" once you get married.
 
2012-05-08 10:43:17 AM  

rcantley: keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]

That poster's ridiculous.

I mean, everyone knows MOMA is in Midtown, not Chelsea.


Well, since it was probably some teabagger who made it, we can only assume she was trying to spell, "Liberty" or "Dissent" or "Patriotic" or "Mobility Scooter", but who knows?
 
2012-05-08 10:45:46 AM  

Beaver1224: As Subby pointed out in the headline, McCain had a similar moment 4 years ago and handled it just fine


HMS_Blinkin: He handled it decently considering the situation, but watch the clip of when McCain had that crazy lady tell him Obama was an Arab. He was standing right in front of her and took the mic back when she got goofy.




Have we gone so far around the bend that McCain's response is now considered a good example?

I believe that comment was actually that Obama was a Muslim, and McCain's response was "No, he's a good man." Not "What if he was?" Not even "I don't think that's accurate."

No, instead the response was that if he were Muslim/Arab, he couldn't be a good man.
 
2012-05-08 10:46:30 AM  

FarkedOver: Philip Francis Queeg: All Romney had to farking say was "I don't think that making claims like that are helpful. Let's keep this campaign respectful to our opponent and focus on the issues."

He can't campaign on the issues. The issues he promotes were already tried under GWB and they were abject failures. The only way he can win is by being a shiat slinging moron and he knows it.



This.
 
2012-05-08 10:52:27 AM  
So based on most of your crazy and disrespectful comments in here, I take it you have been told to sit down and shut up at political rallies?
 
2012-05-08 10:54:02 AM  

BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this


AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Barney Frank 2016!!!
 
2012-05-08 10:54:03 AM  

bikerific: I believe that comment was actually that Obama was a Muslim, and McCain's response was "No, he's a good man." Not "What if he was?" Not even "I don't think that's accurate."

No, instead the response was that if he were Muslim/Arab, he couldn't be a good man.


Despite the ugly campaign he ran, I'll give McCain enough credit to assume he meant "No (and) he's a good man," not "No (because) he's a good man." I would not give crazy-haired lunatic woman anywhere near enough credit to have understood that, however.
 
2012-05-08 10:56:39 AM  

bikerific: I believe that comment was actually that Obama was a Muslim, and McCain's response was "No, he's a good man." Not "What if he was?" Not even "I don't think that's accurate."


Well, it is good thing you got your froth running because you are wrong:

"I can't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's not, he's not uh - he's an Arab. He's not - " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab]."

Man, the level of Derp in this thread is extraordinary even for Fark.
 
2012-05-08 11:02:22 AM  

bikerific: Beaver1224: As Subby pointed out in the headline, McCain had a similar moment 4 years ago and handled it just fine

HMS_Blinkin: He handled it decently considering the situation, but watch the clip of when McCain had that crazy lady tell him Obama was an Arab. He was standing right in front of her and took the mic back when she got goofy.

Have we gone so far around the bend that McCain's response is now considered a good example?

I believe that comment was actually that Obama was a Muslim, and McCain's response was "No, he's a good man." Not "What if he was?" Not even "I don't think that's accurate."

No, instead the response was that if he were Muslim/Arab, he couldn't be a good man.


What the fark are you talking about? McCain outright stated at the end of his response that "He's not." What the hell could that unstated object be if not an Arab?
 
2012-05-08 11:03:16 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it? I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


If he can't handle a random crazy on the campaign trail, he's not up to the task of being President of the United States.
 
Heb
2012-05-08 11:06:59 AM  

bikerific: Beaver1224: As Subby pointed out in the headline, McCain had a similar moment 4 years ago and handled it just fine

HMS_Blinkin: He handled it decently considering the situation, but watch the clip of when McCain had that crazy lady tell him Obama was an Arab. He was standing right in front of her and took the mic back when she got goofy.



Have we gone so far around the bend that McCain's response is now considered a good example?

I believe that comment was actually that Obama was a Muslim, and McCain's response was "No, he's a good man." Not "What if he was?" Not even "I don't think that's accurate."

No, instead the response was that if he were Muslim/Arab, he couldn't be a good man.


That seems unnecessarily unfair on McCain. The "he's an Arab" was being used as a slur. McCain batted the slur away and affirmed that Obama is a good man, and that they merely disagreed politically. I don't think it's fair to infer from that that McCain accepted the basis of the slur (that arab=bad) merely that he wanted to quickly head off the very approach, and to reassert the notion that being politically opposed to someone doesn't make them evil.
 
2012-05-08 11:09:22 AM  
 
2012-05-08 11:11:35 AM  
MoRmoney's guiding principle comes right out of Joseph Smiths secret "Gold" tablets
Link
 
2012-05-08 11:13:06 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: It happens in pretty much every election. It's what happens when you depend on gullible idiots for votes. Both sides do this, but one side does it more, as we can see here.


Not that I'm accusing you of false equivalence, but what exactly has Obama or any current Democrat done to pander to crazy people?
 
2012-05-08 11:15:31 AM  

Hickory-smoked: Not that I'm accusing you of false equivalence, but what exactly has Obama or any current Democrat done to pander to crazy people?


He answered "Joe" the "Plumber's" dishonest question truthfully. If that isn't pandering to crazy people I don't know what is.
 
2012-05-08 11:17:40 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: hinten: So, today we aren't upset that there are free speech zones? Or we only get upset when they are set up during the Democratic National Convention.

Huh?



I expected nothing less from you.
 
2012-05-08 11:19:58 AM  

Headso: More evidence that Romney just says whatever the person he is talking to wants him to say.


I don't see how anyone can understand it any differently. It's pretty obvious at this point, isn't it?

/18 words that mean "this"
 
2012-05-08 11:23:41 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?


How would I personally have handled it? I would hope like McCain handled the Arab incident, but I really don't know. That said, Romney needs to show he can handle these kinds of people because this is a lot more basic issue than, say, disagreeing with more than half of your Cabinet members and taking a different course of action than the one they recommended because you thought it was right.
 
2012-05-08 11:24:12 AM  

1nsanilicious: So based on most of your crazy and disrespectful comments...


Aren't you precious?
 
2012-05-08 11:33:39 AM  

Heb: That seems unnecessarily unfair on McCain. The "he's an Arab" was being used as a slur. McCain batted the slur away and affirmed that Obama is a good man, and that they merely disagreed politically. I don't think it's fair to infer from that that McCain accepted the basis of the slur (that arab=bad) merely that he wanted to quickly head off the very approach, and to reassert the notion that being politically opposed to someone doesn't make them evil.



I'm not even saying McCain believed that.

But his answer was being held up as a good example of a response to crazy. It wasn't. McCain was clearly caught off guard and muddled through as best he could. But if you had time to prepare an answer, it is hardly what you'd want to say.

Whether it was what he intended or not, it absolutely came off as "No, he's not an Arab! He's a good man."
 
2012-05-08 11:39:46 AM  

keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]


MOMA?
 
2012-05-08 11:40:41 AM  

rcantley: keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]

That poster's ridiculous.

I mean, everyone knows MOMA is in Midtown, not Chelsea.


D'OH!
 
2012-05-08 11:46:24 AM  

bikerific: Heb: That seems unnecessarily unfair on McCain. The "he's an Arab" was being used as a slur. McCain batted the slur away and affirmed that Obama is a good man, and that they merely disagreed politically. I don't think it's fair to infer from that that McCain accepted the basis of the slur (that arab=bad) merely that he wanted to quickly head off the very approach, and to reassert the notion that being politically opposed to someone doesn't make them evil.


I'm not even saying McCain believed that.

But his answer was being held up as a good example of a response to crazy. It wasn't. McCain was clearly caught off guard and muddled through as best he could. But if you had time to prepare an answer, it is hardly what you'd want to say.

Whether it was what he intended or not, it absolutely came off as "No, he's not an Arab! He's a good man."


Well, you thought the questioner said muslim, so I am quite sure that your opinion isn't exactly going to be anyone's "go to" source for analysis, sport:

"I can't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's not, he's not uh - he's an Arab. He's not - " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab]."
 
2012-05-08 11:53:11 AM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?


Easy, McCain already did, 4 years ago and came out looking like he still had some integrity. It would be THAT easy.
 
2012-05-08 12:01:16 PM  
i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-08 12:12:53 PM  

bikerific: Heb: That seems unnecessarily unfair on McCain. The "he's an Arab" was being used as a slur. McCain batted the slur away and affirmed that Obama is a good man, and that they merely disagreed politically. I don't think it's fair to infer from that that McCain accepted the basis of the slur (that arab=bad) merely that he wanted to quickly head off the very approach, and to reassert the notion that being politically opposed to someone doesn't make them evil.


I'm not even saying McCain believed that.

But his answer was being held up as a good example of a response to crazy. It wasn't. McCain was clearly caught off guard and muddled through as best he could. But if you had time to prepare an answer, it is hardly what you'd want to say.

Whether it was what he intended or not, it absolutely came off as "No, he's not an Arab! He's a good man."



You're the first person I've ever heard who claims to have felt that way, and it's quite a reach.

It's patently obvious to anyone who sees it that the lady is gearing herself up to implying that Obama is an Arab Muslin Terrist Infiltrator come to pull out a can of whoop-ass on the U.S. from the inside.

The fact that Cain didn't wait for her to really get herself all wound up and simply cut it off at the knees was a laudable act of character and integrity, and I say that as a dyed-in-the-wool card-carrying liberal who would not have voted McCain-Palin for all the money in Mitt Romney's couch cushions.

Trying to infer some hair-splitting pedantic out of context bullshiat meaning from the literal interpretation and extrapolation of a select set of phrases within the exchange is an act of intellectual dishonesty and disingenuous gamesmanship on farking par with Breitbart.
 
2012-05-08 12:32:19 PM  

theknuckler_33: keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]

MOMA?


I was about to ask the same thing.
 
2012-05-08 12:33:34 PM  

jules_siegel: HMS_Blinkin: Taking the "integrity" route isn't really a winner in the GOP/Fox news world.

Except in accusing Demon-rats of lacking integrity.



1/10. Lacks originality or creativity.
 
2012-05-08 12:47:06 PM  
The man is a paragon of integrity. By that I mean I would wholly expect him to sell the organs of his living mother in the pursuit of power.

But, Obama is no better. He is beholden to the same interests and R-money.
 
2012-05-08 12:50:30 PM  

FarkedOver: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


That's the man I want to be president. When confronted with something out of the ordinary I want him to not know what the fark to do. That's my president.


THIS times a-thousandy-million

Holy crap! It's not like Romney's a fresh-faced 18 year old getting his first taste of reality away from the protective cocoon of his parents' home.
 
2012-05-08 12:52:26 PM  

Corporate Self: The man is a paragon of integrity. By that I mean I would wholly expect him to sell the organs of his living mother in the pursuit of power.

But, Obama is no better. He is beholden to the same interests and R-money.



Who should I vote for, then?
 
2012-05-08 12:57:06 PM  

Corporate Self: The man is a paragon of integrity. By that I mean I would wholly expect him to sell the organs of his living mother in the pursuit of power.

But, Obama is no better. He is beholden to the same interests and R-money.


I think Obama IS uncategorically better than Romney. He has been careful and measured during his first term, probably more than I'd like, but I really do believe he wants to try to leave a positive, lasting impact on the country, whereas Romney just wants it for a feather in his cap. My secret hope is that Obama was treading more carefully in his first term than he will in his second and he'll turn into an aggressive bulldozer, taking out all Republican politicians in his wake following the elections. If he can keep them out of the White House for eight years, this country has a fighting chance of turning things around somewhat before another catastrophic Republican administration takes the presidency in the future.
 
2012-05-08 01:01:37 PM  

RolandGunner: Romney isn't breaking new ground here.


In your obvious haste to come up with an "AHA!" moment, did you even read past the headline?

FTFA

"Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law.""

See any difference to the Romney-bot (any any republican for that matter)?
 
2012-05-08 01:22:59 PM  

John the Magnificent: See any difference to the Romney-bot (any any republican for that matter)?


LULZ!!

Oh man, did your keyboard blow up from the sheer hypocrisy of your last post?
 
2012-05-08 01:45:03 PM  

cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


If he has no idea what to do in a situation like this, he should be kept as far as possible from any position of leadership. If he can't handle this, how is he going to handle the responsibilities of being President?
 
2012-05-08 03:29:54 PM  
Further proof that Mitt Rmoney is too much of a pussy to be trusted with being anywhere near the Oval Office.

America needs a leader, not a pants pisser.
 
2012-05-08 06:17:47 PM  

cman: Not the best answers he could have given

I think that politicians should practice for these kinds of events, meeting crackpot loonies.

/Also, isnt it kinda sad that Romney knows not the definition of Treason under the US Constitution?


All the more reason he is a really half-assed Presidential candidate. I can see having a gaffe here or there but he just seems so unprepared for this, or unprepared for people to actually take him to task on his actions, statements, and qualifications. Well, moreso than any politician under the media lens (the story itself even compared McCain's performance to Mittens' here).
 
2012-05-08 10:52:30 PM  

BunkoSquad: cman: Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

Like this


Man, that never gets old.
 
2012-05-08 11:30:10 PM  

technicolor-misfit: [i180.photobucket.com image 640x475]


You have made me associate Romney (alternately Rmoney or Robmey) with the awesomeness that is Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. For that I shall hate you for the next 18 minutes or so until I go to sleep and forget all about it.
 
2012-05-09 02:59:50 AM  

cman: RexTalionis: cman: Not the best answers he could have given

That's sort of like saying that the Kent State shootings was a bit of a blooper.

Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Some crazy ambushes you and starts spouting off idiocy. How would you have handled it?

I think this was one of those Romney moments where he had no idea what the fark to do.


Romney has been in politicis for years. He should have learned to handle this sort of thing by now. Just pretend you didn't hear the question and move on to something else.
 
2012-05-09 03:07:17 AM  

keylock71: Why would anybody expect anything but mealy-mouthed pandering from this out of touch plutocrat?

[themoderatevoice.com image 495x300]


he's actually holding the sign. hmmm
 
2012-05-09 11:34:28 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Welcome to the next presidential term. Regardless who wins. If Rmoney wins, the GOP's first order of business will be to put ()bama on trial for treason. If ()bama wins, the GOP's first order of business will be to impeach him, and then put him on trial for treason.


I don't think Republicans will be in a position to do much of anything after this election. They are going to lose most of their power this time.
 
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