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(Yahoo)   MLB imposes 100-game suspension on SF Giants reliever Guillermo Mota after he tests positive for a "performance enhancing drug," though with a 5.06 ERA I'm not sure it enhanced his performance   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 33
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2012-05-07 07:25:34 PM  
Mota barely made the team this year (everyone assumed he was done with the Giants at the end of last season, and it was a bit of a surprise when the Giants kept him on the roster), and he's not been impressive thus far this year. I'm guessing his career with the Giants--and probably his entire baseball career--is over at this point.
 
2012-05-07 09:52:24 PM  

Cyberluddite: Mota barely made the team this year (everyone assumed he was done with the Giants at the end of last season, and it was a bit of a surprise when the Giants kept him on the roster), and he's not been impressive thus far this year. I'm guessing his career with the Giants--and probably his entire baseball career--is over at this point.


Considering it's his second suspension for the same damned thing, I think his career should be about over. Seems like he's trying to stretch it out with the drugs, but it's not working, anyway
 
2012-05-07 10:33:58 PM  
Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!
 
2012-05-07 10:39:13 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Cyberluddite: Mota barely made the team this year (everyone assumed he was done with the Giants at the end of last season, and it was a bit of a surprise when the Giants kept him on the roster), and he's not been impressive thus far this year. I'm guessing his career with the Giants--and probably his entire baseball career--is over at this point.

Considering it's his second suspension for the same damned thing, I think his career should be about over. Seems like he's trying to stretch it out with the drugs, but it's not working, anyway


Clearly the Giants slipped something in his drink so they don't have to sign his checks anymore.
 
2012-05-07 10:49:06 PM  
With a name like Mota sounds more like weed than PEDs.

DeWayne Mann: Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!


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/don't remember who posted that originally, still think it's funny
 
2012-05-07 10:53:18 PM  

neuroflare: DeWayne Mann: Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!

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/don't remember who posted that originally, still think it's funny


You know, I don't either, but it's pretty great.
 
2012-05-07 10:59:43 PM  

neuroflare: With a name like Mota sounds more like weed than PEDs.


I submitted this along those lines. I don't think admins the espanol.
 
2012-05-07 11:05:06 PM  
So this means Giants fans can no longer boo Ryan Braun, right?

I found it hypocritical when they booed him, considering they had Bonds for so many years. Same with Cardinals fans and McGwire and Cubs fans with Sosa.
 
2012-05-07 11:15:11 PM  
But now who will pinch hit for Pedro Borbon?
 
2012-05-07 11:16:57 PM  

machoprogrammer: So this means Giants fans can no longer boo Ryan Braun, right?

I found it hypocritical when they booed him, considering they had Bonds for so many years. Same with Cardinals fans and McGwire and Cubs fans with Sosa.


Or it could be that they simply booed the opposing team's best hitter.
 
2012-05-07 11:35:54 PM  
Take THAT Ryan Bruan!
 
2012-05-07 11:43:40 PM  

machoprogrammer: So this means Giants fans can no longer boo Ryan BraunNyjer Morgan, right?


That's who they're really booing.
 
2012-05-07 11:48:09 PM  
And Cole Hamels only gets five games (so really, one) for attempting to injure another player.
 
2012-05-08 12:02:35 AM  

John Nash: Take THAT Ryan Bruan!


Advice like that is what got him in trouble this offseason.
 
2012-05-08 12:19:14 AM  
Clenbuterol? Never seen the word in print before. How does one normally get it? Could the player be telling the truth? And does that even matter?
I guess the watchword is Caution: When you're paid lots of money as a grownup to play a schoolyard game, you can afford to look silly and paranoid about every substance on the end of a fork or in the bowl of a spoon.
 
2012-05-08 12:21:02 AM  
I guess he won't be pinch-hitting for Pedro Borbon any time soon.
 
2012-05-08 01:10:20 AM  

Cheesus: I guess he won't be pinch-hitting for Pedro Borbon any time soon.


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2012-05-08 01:30:57 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Clenbuterol? Never seen the word in print before. How does one normally get it? Could the player be telling the truth? And does that even matter?
I guess the watchword is Caution: When you're paid lots of money as a grownup to play a schoolyard game, you can afford to look silly and paranoid about every substance on the end of a fork or in the bowl of a spoon.


Well, most people get it as a prescription for asthma, except Spanish cyclists who like to claim they get it from tainted meat. Either way, you take it because it increases oxygenation of blood. More oxygen, less fatigue, less lactic acidosis, etc. This one actually is a performance enhancer, unlike HGH.
 
2012-05-08 03:19:04 AM  
Smok-a da mota?
 
2012-05-08 03:34:29 AM  
100 games? What is that, like a week of baseball?
 
2012-05-08 07:48:29 AM  
He better hope a Kinkos/Fedex was open.
 
2012-05-08 09:10:25 AM  
Came for Airplane reference. Leaving satisfied.

/Mota....Mota....Mota....
 
2012-05-08 09:53:15 AM  

JosephFinn: And Cole Hamels only gets five games (so really, one) for attempting to injure another player.


He wasn't attempting to injure him. Guys get hit with pitches all the time and aren't injured. Hamels' only problem was being honest. MLB HATES honesty. Unwritten rules are unwritten for a reason.
 
2012-05-08 10:04:57 AM  
torquemota torqueomoa all they do is talkamotta
 
2012-05-08 10:18:05 AM  
Dude had a 1.594 WHIP, batters had a .941 OPS against him, and he had -2.2 pitching runs in only 10.1 innings. By any measurement the guy wasn't lighting the world on fire.
 
2012-05-08 10:35:30 AM  
So he liked the kiddie version of the purple drank?
 
2012-05-08 11:19:55 AM  

tortilla burger: 100 games? What is that, like a week of baseball?


You are trying to be funny, but in case you are not, that's 2/3 of a season.
 
2012-05-08 11:23:41 AM  

DeWayne Mann: Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!


Ok... what stat do you want to use to prove this dude was anything but shiat for a pitcher?
 
2012-05-08 11:32:33 AM  

downstairs: DeWayne Mann: Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!

Ok... what stat do you want to use to prove this dude was anything but shiat for a pitcher?


Well, there's NO stat from 2012 that would work. He has 10 IP.

But even if he had 100 IP, ERA for relievers makes even less sense than ERA for starters.
 
2012-05-08 11:39:44 AM  

JosephFinn: And Cole Hamels only gets five games (so really, one) for attempting to injure another player.


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Oh my god! What if he had injured the back of the world's greatest 19-year old that the Nationals are hanging their franchise on?

He didn't aim for the head or the legs, so yeah, a one-start suspension. Under the same logic, Zimmermann should get a suspension for retaliating, but he didn't.
 
2012-05-08 03:12:42 PM  

DeWayne Mann: downstairs: DeWayne Mann: Wait, a PED thread AND a "Let's use ERA to evaluate relievers (in May)" thread? Let me get my popcorn!

Ok... what stat do you want to use to prove this dude was anything but shiat for a pitcher?

Well, there's NO stat from 2012 that would work. He has 10 IP.

But even if he had 100 IP, ERA for relievers makes even less sense than ERA for starters.


Well, here's a stat for you. As a Giants fan, I've watched most of his pitching performances this year, and more often then not it's looked like he was throwing batting practice out there. He's lost velocity off his fastball and he's had a really hard time getting ahead of hitters this year, which has resulting in him having to throw too many "just get it over" belt-high fastballs, with predictable results. I've always liked Mota (...Mota...Mota...) because he's always taken the ball whenever they need him to, as often as they need him to, in whatever spot they need him to, and for as many innings as they need him to, without complaining about his role and generally with reliably decent (though not necessarily stellar) results, but over the last year or so he's increasingly looked like his arm is about used up (he started out OK last year, but was pretty damn hittable for much of last season). The dude is 38 and has been pitching forever, and while he's had a long and good career I think it's pretty much over now, even without this latest incident.
 
2012-05-08 03:25:36 PM  

Cyberluddite: Well, here's a stat for you.


That's not a stat.

More importantly, you seem to think I'm saying Guillermo is a good pitcher or something.

It's May. I'm not saying anything about how any player is doing in May. ANY player.

But here, in this thread, I'm saying: ERA is crap. Especially for relievers. Especially for relievers with 10 IP.
 
2012-05-08 05:34:01 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Cyberluddite: Well, here's a stat for you.
That's not a stat.


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