shower_in_my_socks: To those doubting the validity of this claim, do you have any actual evidence that it's bullshiat, or is this just based on a general distrust of intelligence agencies? Not that distrust of the FBI, CIA, etc. isn't warranted, but...

We have the FBI, Homeland Security, and White House all confirming the plot. A Republican rep has also confirmed the plot, so this isn't a partisan Dem election stunt. There were supposedly other countries' intel services involved -- we'll see if we hear from them as this develops.

It sounds to me like we busted an Al Qaida bomb-maker and caught him red-handed with a new device, which appears to be a more sophisticated version of the "underwear" bomb. There was no specific threat in place yet, but it was clear from whatever evidence they have that it would ultimately have been used to bring down an airliner.

Yes. I have evidence. It came from the news. They got it from the government. Therefore it is either completely untrue or so spun up that any truth in it is meaningless.

When the Media does actual reporting instead of just reading a press release; and, the government tells us the complete and un-edited and redacted truth, then and only then can any reasonable person believe anything they spew.

Boxers or briefs?

Or is that info classified?

Glad we don't have to deal with all that ooga-booga-turrrsts fear mongering anymore.

How many CIA, FBI and HSA agents were involved in providing the 'terrorist' with his funds, training, equipment and, most importantly, motivation to carry this out?

You know, when the terrorists realize that sending a bunch or random people on haphazardly planned attacks, as opposed to working out the intricacies/specifics of a singular attack and therefore giving authorities time to catch on, has a much higher probability of success...we are good and proper farked!

/Seriously

"CIA thwarts a new al-Qaida underwear bomb plot to destroy a U.S.-bound airliner. The attack was planned around the one-year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden"

Uh huh.

Let me guess...Obama tries to turn this into a campaign ad too....

^ someone obviously can't take a joke?

shower_in_my_socks: To those doubting the validity of this claim, do you have any actual evidence that it's bullshiat, or is this just based on a general distrust of intelligence agencies? Not that distrust of the FBI, CIA, etc. isn't warranted, but...

We have the FBI, Homeland Security, and White House all confirming the plot. A Republican rep has also confirmed the plot, so this isn't a partisan Dem election stunt. There were supposedly other countries' intel services involved -- we'll see if we hear from them as this develops.

It sounds to me like we busted an Al Qaida bomb-maker and caught him red-handed with a new device, which appears to be a more sophisticated version of the "underwear" bomb. There was no specific threat in place yet, but it was clear from whatever evidence they have that it would ultimately have been used to bring down an airliner.

There are two sure-fire ways to completely pull the wool over the eyes of the American people:

1. Tell them a phony story.
2. Tell them a phony story and lay it on thick.

Usually they choose #1. I mean, why not take the easy route? You don't even have to make an effort and everyone will still believe it. Occasionally, however, one must pull out the big guns and really play the part. Doing so helps distract from the times when they just go with option #1.

Le Grand Inquisitor: ^ someone obviously can't take a joke?

Good thing you did not ask him for a significant difference between Obama and Bush. Cuz there aint one therefore he the may have had to double secret probation ignored you.

Bonkthat_Again: Please note this was the "CIA", and not the "TSA" or "DHS"

And as we all know the CIA is well regarded for its openness and disclosure. They have never mislead anyone.

Weaver95: wait - so...are we supposed to be afraid of terrorists and vote Republican...? or are we supposed to be afraid of terrorists and vote Obama? Or maybe we're supposed to be afraid and not question the TSA gate rape.

*sigh*

look, if you want me to live in fear you have to be unambiguous about just what it is i'm supposed to be terrified of and what sort of asinine policy i'm supposed to authorize in order to pretend i'm safer from terrorist threats.

You know what's annoying? I've searched and I've searched (for, like, an hour) for that speech by George Bush. The one where he says that Americans should be on their guard because the terrorists are coming, and he can't say when or where because informing the public properly will give it all away and the terrorists will somehow win.

It seems like everyone's forgotten that one.

Thank god! So it's still 1 us, over 2000 them? This would've really skewed the numbers.

Jaws_Victim: I guess we can count the total number of plots thwarted by the TSA to 1 now. Complain some more.

CIA != TSA

Still 0

12349876: playing devil's advocate here, but you could argue that the fact these terrorists were looking to get on international-US flights and not getting on planes in the USA like 9-11 might be due to the terrorists perceiving international airports as being easier to get through than American ones and maybe you credit the TSA for that.

If they have that perception, it is not correct. I have accidentally carried knives on planes more than once, and I know I'm not the only one.

But the real reason is that it is much easier to get someone on the international flight, because you don't have to pass through customs until you get here, which removes the need for a visa.

Churchy LaFemme: Why, it's just in time to be frightened for the elections!

Except it is nowhere near November, but keep trying.

Jaws_Victim: I guess we can count the total number of plots thwarted by the TSA to 1 now. Complain some more.

The hell we can. CIA got this one.

But the TSA will use it as an excuse to make you take off your underwear to go through security.

Oh look, another failed plot that DIDN'T originate in the US....AGAIN.

bigsteve3OOO: Bonkthat_Again: Please note this was the "CIA", and not the "TSA" or "DHS"

And as we all know the CIA is well regarded for its openness and disclosure. They have never mislead anyone.

Oh the CIA lies, but the *kind* of lies it tells have a certain flavor and rhythm to them. They wouldn't say, "we arrested someone" and NOT arrest someone. They might grab an innocent and they might fabricate charges but they wouldn't do both at the same time, maybe he didn't do what they said, or maybe he's a scapegoat because the real fish got away, but the CIA doesn't generally make shiat up just to make shiat up.

Among other things? They don't need to, there are enough idiots out there that want to start shiat they don't need to manufacture them, just harvest them.

The WindowLicker: Yes, but remember that the Department of State is not necessarily in the truth telling business any more than any of the other alphabet soup agencies.

I'm "in the know"

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7092338/76718139#c76718139" target="_blank">shower_in_my_socks</a>:</b> <i>To those doubting the validity of this claim, do you have any actual evidence that it's bullshiat, or is this just based on a general distrust of intelligence agencies? Not that distrust of the FBI, CIA, etc. isn't warranted, but...

We have the FBI, Homeland Security, and White House all confirming the plot. A Republican rep has also confirmed the plot, so this isn't a partisan Dem election stunt. There were supposedly other countries' intel services involved -- we'll see if we hear from them as this develops.

It sounds to me like we busted an Al Qaida bomb-maker and caught him red-handed with a new device, which appears to be a more sophisticated version of the "underwear" bomb. There was no specific threat in place yet, but it was clear from whatever evidence they have that it would ultimately have been used to bring down an airliner.</i>



HAHA yeah its easy for a bunch of different agencies to confirm the plot when they had already received the script. its fun to be scared tho, isn't it?

I like trains...

How come there's no train across the Atlantic yet?

shower_in_my_socks:I know people in intelligence and believe it or not they actually are out there kicking the asses of people who are still out to fark with us.

I read this so it must be true...

See, the fact that you know them and know they are in intelligence, tells me they are probably at a low level, not privy to the true knowledge. And because it's operating from the inside, the unknowns are out there creating the situations, always one step ahead. They can operate easily because they always know the situation in advance. They direct things like a movie, man.

And nobody is out to to fark with anybody. There is no "us", man. "Countries" are just pieces in a big boy game of chess... or was it Risk? It was something, but man it was some heavy stuff, man!

Al Qaeda doesn't exist in the form you think it does, man. I read that on the Googles too!

ontariolightning Article says the plane was over Detroit when the underwear bomber tried detonating but it was 10 minutes south of me above Petrolia Ontario

a few short miles from potentially endangering The Bieber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber

then there's Flight 96...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96

LadyBelgara: Jaws_Victim: I guess we can count the total number of plots thwarted by the TSA to 1 now. Complain some more.

The hell we can. CIA got this one.

But the TSA will use it as an excuse to make you take off your underwear to go through security.

Sounds kinky.

Here's a tip, terrorists. You've already done the underwear bomb thing. We're looking for that. Come up with an original idea. Bomb implanted inside a body sounded like it had potential. Work on that for awhile.

Churchy LaFemme: Why, it's just in time to be frightened for the elections!
Hobodeluxe: yeah if by "just in time" you mean 6 months out

Hey, it takes time to catapult the propaganda!

ChrisDe: You've already done the underwear bomb thing. We're looking for that. That's all we're looking for now. We have an army of underwear fetishists working on it. Maybe try a hat.


/ftfy

SweetSilverBlues: CapnBlues: ...

And I don't believe the CIA was behind stopping the attack. Obviously the CIA is stealing credit from those highly trained crack operatives we know as the TSA.

Don't let Mall Ninja hear that. He's been keeping us safe from real terrorists in the homeland unlike those official law enforcement and military/black op sissies.

In other news. . . the CIA is selling off the nations bridges for bargain basement prices!

Your TSA/CIA/ATF guys should detonate the suspect underwear on a tarmac. Just to be safe and to be sure and so there can be more entertaining headlines involving underpants.

SweetSilverBlues: CapnBlues: it turns out that when the government pays attention to terrorism, they can do a pretty good job of fighting it. unlike the Bush administration, which almost completely ignored terrorism until 9/11.

Yes, DAMN Bush! He should TOTALLY have thwarted the terrorists in those nine months he was president before 9/11!!!!

With all the crap he did, you're going with that? Really?

And I don't believe the CIA was behind stopping the attack. Obviously the CIA is stealing credit from those highly trained crack operatives we know as the TSA.

Gots to check ya asshole sir!

Bit'O'Gristle: They asked what happened to the would be bomber. Nobody knows. My guess? He's shark bait right along with Osama.

/Good riddance

If only it were true. This is, of course, the Disney version of National Security, you realize. You think they report ANYTHING that actually happens? As if the CIA is big on disclosing to the public detailed accounts of it's day to day activities. . .

Tigger: Le Grand Inquisitor: Let me guess...Obama tries to turn this into a campaign ad too....

Fastest ignore on record.

Die.

You sound kind of like a terrorist.

I saw something, now it's time for me to say something. Be right back.

How do we know if this true or not? Why would the 'cia' anounce a 'thwart' to the media? Underwear 'thwart'? A 'thwart' regarding underpant retaliation? It sounds like the cia is investigating methane gas emissions. Making them less plausable and more in line with an agenda.

shower_in_my_socks: JonnyG: There are two sure-fire ways to completely pull the wool over the eyes of the American people:

1. Tell them a phony story.
2. Tell them a phony story and lay it on thick.

Usually they choose #1. I mean, why not take the easy route? You don't even have to make an effort and everyone will still believe it. Occasionally, however, one must pull out the big guns and really play the part. Doing so helps distract from the times when they just go with option #1.


Yeah yeah, conspiracies, etc. I get it. But there's no actual proof that this story is bullshiat. I know people in intelligence and believe it or not they actually are out there kicking the asses of people who are still out to fark with us. That doesn't mean we should believe everything we hear, but how about we cautiously applaud their efforts unless and until we see some evidence that it's nonsense?

You do realize that government itself is actually the very definition of a "conspiracy". Two or more people working on a common plan. So, I mean, technically, anything evil the government does is a criminal conspiracy, and anything good the government does is a lawful conspiracy. That term is so distorted these days.

They hate us for our skid marks.

There could be no agenda behind this truthful press release. . . certainly no agenda.

Remember back in the day, when we would hear of an attack being thwarted and spout off about the government making up stories to make us live in fear and justify their stranglehold on civil rights?

good times, good times.

My guess it is another terror plot coordinated by the United States. US agents most likely recruited and supported a so called terrorist and then chose a time and place to thwart the plot.