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2012-05-07 10:51:33 AM  
Damn, Obama can't even do socialism right. So vote Republican.
 
2012-05-07 10:59:04 AM  
It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.
 
2012-05-07 11:32:57 AM  
But he's still a muslim, right?
 
2012-05-07 11:39:46 AM  

Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.


People can try and spin in but basically, Obama certainly did not grow Government.
 
2012-05-07 11:54:35 AM  

DamnYankees: But he's still a muslim, right?


except when he's following radical black christian jeremiah wright.
 
2012-05-07 12:15:43 PM  

Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.


where does it state that? the article i read states that federal military spending is down mainly because of the wind-down of the wars and a lower government spending acceleration than is normal in a down economy.
 
2012-05-07 12:35:36 PM  
FTA:In the first quarter of this year, the real gross domestic product for the government - including state and local governments as well as federal - was 2 percent lower than it was three years earlier, when Barack Obama took office in early 2009.

This is not federal government alone. Scott Walker alone can probably take credit for this 2%.

So subby still had right, Obama is a socialist, and he is the worst. ever.
 
2012-05-07 12:50:22 PM  

thomps: Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.

where does it state that? the article i read states that federal military spending is down mainly because of the wind-down of the wars and a lower government spending acceleration than is normal in a down economy.


FTA: Spending by the federal government, adjusted for inflation, has risen at a slow rate under President Obama. But that increase has been more than offset by a fall in spending by state and local governments, which have been squeezed by weak tax receipts.
 
2012-05-07 12:54:11 PM  

Wife-B-Gone: thomps: Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.

where does it state that? the article i read states that federal military spending is down mainly because of the wind-down of the wars and a lower government spending acceleration than is normal in a down economy.

FTA: Spending by the federal government, adjusted for inflation, has risen at a slow rate under President Obama. But that increase has been more than offset by a fall in spending by state and local governments, which have been squeezed by weak tax receipts.


ah, completely glossed over the state/local bits.
 
2012-05-07 01:03:48 PM  
See, this is what irks me. When the words "Big Government" get thrown around, it's not the farking teachers, EMTs, and firefighters that's the problem.

But what do I know?
 
2012-05-07 02:02:36 PM  
thinkprogress.org
 
2012-05-07 02:03:13 PM  
Hmmm from the NY Times?

That paper still has readers??
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-07 02:04:51 PM  
Nonmilitary spending has risen at about the same pace as it did during George W. Bush's second administration, and much more slowly than during his first.

Sounds pretty clear to me.
 
2012-05-07 02:05:39 PM  
I keep saying; Fartbongo is the best Republican running...
 
2012-05-07 02:07:43 PM  

Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.


HUH?!?! Wow you really have to go through the looking glass to try to spin that. What you said makes no sense. Often when people are poor the government actually SPENDS more. So you comments makes no sense.
 
2012-05-07 02:08:52 PM  
But I was assured that Obama was the fastest government growing guy EVAH!!!!

*begins to suspect Fox News of being something less than perfectly honest*
 
2012-05-07 02:09:00 PM  
stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.
 
2012-05-07 02:10:18 PM  
If we were having more spending in the public sector now the economy would be doing a lot better. Look at the jobs reports public sector jobs is one of the main ones that is still having lay offs.

It's ironic the same people who complain that Obama is not cutting enough public sector jobs also complain Obama is destroying the economy when those loss of public sector jobs cause unemployment.
 
2012-05-07 02:10:54 PM  
monoski


I keep saying; Fartbongo is the best Republican running...


That is very clever.....mind if I use it?
 
2012-05-07 02:11:26 PM  

quatchi: But I was assured that Obama was the fastest government growing guy EVAH!!!!

*begins to suspect Fox News of being something less than perfectly honest*


We are also told he is raising taxes when he has actually been president during the biggest tax cuts ever seen.
 
2012-05-07 02:12:21 PM  

skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.


It's the typical Taxbongo rope-a-dope. He spent his whole first term not taking our guns, just so he can take all of our guns in the second term. Likewise, he spent his whole first term not being socialist, which can only mean that he's going full-bore in his second term.
 
2012-05-07 02:13:51 PM  

qorkfiend: skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.

It's the typical Taxbongo rope-a-dope. He spent his whole first term not taking our guns, just so he can take all of our guns in the second term. Likewise, he spent his whole first term not being socialist, which can only mean that he's going full-bore in his second term.


Like I said, the President is a ninja
 
2012-05-07 02:19:20 PM  

skullkrusher: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.

It's the typical Taxbongo rope-a-dope. He spent his whole first term not taking our guns, just so he can take all of our guns in the second term. Likewise, he spent his whole first term not being socialist, which can only mean that he's going full-bore in his second term.

Like I said, the President is a ninja


And all of the faceless bureaucrats working in his grandma-murdering death panels are ninjas too.
 
2012-05-07 02:20:26 PM  

Corvus: quatchi: But I was assured that Obama was the fastest government growing guy EVAH!!!!

*begins to suspect Fox News of being something less than perfectly honest*

We are also told he is raising taxes when he has actually been president during the biggest tax cuts ever seen.


Confusing data is confusing. But it seems pretty clear who people here prefer.

www.myqwip.com
(Click to vote in new window)
 
2012-05-07 02:21:05 PM  

Serious Black: skullkrusher: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.

It's the typical Taxbongo rope-a-dope. He spent his whole first term not taking our guns, just so he can take all of our guns in the second term. Likewise, he spent his whole first term not being socialist, which can only mean that he's going full-bore in his second term.

Like I said, the President is a ninja

And all of the faceless bureaucrats working in his grandma-murdering death panels are ninjas too.


the conspiracy runs deep
 
2012-05-07 02:24:08 PM  

AntiNerd: Corvus: quatchi: But I was assured that Obama was the fastest government growing guy EVAH!!!!

*begins to suspect Fox News of being something less than perfectly honest*

We are also told he is raising taxes when he has actually been president during the biggest tax cuts ever seen.

Confusing data is confusing. But it seems pretty clear who people here prefer.

[www.myqwip.com image 210x290]
(Click to vote in new window)


I'm honestly surprised the votes for "most positive" and "some positive" are as high as they are. I expected more people to go "little positive". Are people grading him on that big of a curve?

That said, on your other quiz for opinion of the GOP, I am not at all surprised at the overwhelming majority of the votes being placed for "most negative".
 
2012-05-07 02:24:35 PM  
This would be interesting and enlightening IF OBAMA WERE ON MY TOWN COUNCIL.

Gee, government spending went up during the boom years of the real estate bubble, when money was flowing freely into local coffers with the increase in the tax base? And it's dropped off now that property taxes can't be propped up due to laws prohibiting exorbidant year-over-year increases in millage?

Color me shocked.
 
2012-05-07 02:24:48 PM  

mrshowrules: Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.

People can try and spin in but basically, Obama certainly did not grow Government.


From TFA, they said that *governmental* GDP is down 2%. OBAMA IS TANKING OUR ECONOMY AND TEKIN ER JERBS!
 
2012-05-07 02:25:17 PM  

Corvus: quatchi: But I was assured that Obama was the fastest government growing guy EVAH!!!!

*begins to suspect Fox News of being something less than perfectly honest*

We are also told he is raising taxes when he has actually been president during the biggest tax cuts ever seen.


Damn, dude, you shoulda waited till I was sitting down for that!

/They really are terrible aren't they?
 
2012-05-07 02:25:30 PM  

skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines. Ninja socialism.


Damm it! I don't want to work in a ninja tongue mine. Ninjas are really hard to find and object with sharp pointy things when you try to mine their tongues. So, I'm voting Cthulhu.
 
MFL
2012-05-07 02:31:00 PM  
Obama the fiscal conservative....LOL

What a joke.
 
2012-05-07 02:31:24 PM  
FTA:

George W. Bush entered the White House just as a recession was getting under way

lolwut?
 
2012-05-07 02:32:03 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Hmmm from the NY Times?

That paper still has readers??


How's that handwaving working out for you?
 
2012-05-07 02:32:24 PM  

skullkrusher: stealth socialism is the worst kind. Oh look, the government is shrinking isn't that great? Private sector spending is increasing as a percentage of GDP. Spending is down.. then BAM! we're all forced work in the government tungsten mines bootstrap factory. Ninja socialism.



Fixed.
 
2012-05-07 02:32:46 PM  
Well states aren't able to print money so they have to cut their budgets.

This has nothing to do with Obama
 
2012-05-07 02:33:32 PM  

davideggy: FTA:

George W. Bush entered the White House just as a recession was getting under way

lolwut?


It started in March 2001 and ended in November 2001. You can't place the blame for it on him. But you can place the blame for it on Alan Greenspan.
 
2012-05-07 02:34:55 PM  

Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.


I am realizing more and more every day that people on FARK post prior to reading the article. You are an example.
 
2012-05-07 02:34:55 PM  

Corvus: Wife-B-Gone: It states government spending is down due to poor tax revenue. Hardly smaller government, just poorer people supporting it.

HUH?!?! Wow you really have to go through the looking glass to try to spin that. What you said makes no sense. Often when people are poor the government actually SPENDS more. So you comments makes no sense.


That and unlike the feds, states and local governments typically must have a balanced budget. So local government spending going down means that there are fewer employees. Unless Wife-B-Gone is going to define "smaller government" to mean something completely arbitrary of course.
 
2012-05-07 02:37:20 PM  

DamnYankees: But he's still a muslim, right?


Muslims believe in the dismantling of America, so of course this fits with their agenda. Expect sharia law next, followed by the replacement of all Pizza Hut/Taco Bells with mosques/Falafel Bells.
 
2012-05-07 02:37:27 PM  

MugzyBrown: Well states aren't able to print money so they have to cut their budgets.

This has nothing to do with Obama


Is the presupposition here that states DON'T get money from the federal government?

Trying to understand you logic.
 
2012-05-07 02:38:21 PM  

MugzyBrown: Well states aren't able to print money so they have to cut their budgets.

This has nothing to do with Obama


How do you explain the lack of federal government growth, given the claim that Obama is growing government more than any other president in history?
 
2012-05-07 02:41:37 PM  

FlashHarry: DamnYankees: But he's still a muslim, right?

except when he's following radical black christian jeremiah wright.


or an atheist devil worshipper
 
2012-05-07 02:42:00 PM  
Obama is doing the correct thing in response to the Bush era.

Serious Black: davideggy: FTA:

George W. Bush entered the White House just as a recession was getting under way

lolwut?

It started in March 2001 and ended in November 2001. You can't place the blame for it on him. But you can place the blame for it on Alan Greenspan.


Bush can't be blamed for that recession. That was the dot com bubble bursting.
 
2012-05-07 02:42:35 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

3 out of 3 Democratic presidencies: Private sector grows faster than public sector.

2 out of 3 Republican Presidencies: Public sector grows faster than private sector.

I'm beginning to agree that these Fox News people may not be telling us the whole story!
 
2012-05-07 02:43:13 PM  

bdub77: Muslims believe in the dismantling of America, so of course this fits with their agenda. Expect sharia law next, followed by the replacement of all Pizza Hut/Taco Bells with mosques/Falafel Bells.


I'd be OK with the Falafel Bells part.
 
2012-05-07 02:43:20 PM  

downpaymentblues: MugzyBrown: Well states aren't able to print money so they have to cut their budgets.

This has nothing to do with Obama

How do you explain the lack of federal government growth, given the claim that Obama is growing government more than any other president in history?


He's obviously keeping those millions of jobs off the books, kind of like how Bush kept the cost of the wars off the books.
 
2012-05-07 02:43:46 PM  

Serious Black: davideggy: FTA:

George W. Bush entered the White House just as a recession was getting under way

lolwut?

It started in March 2001 and ended in November 2001. You can't place the blame for it on him. But you can place the blame for it on Alan Greenspan.


Doh! Read that wrong, thought they were trying to stretch the recession that started in 07/08 all the way back to the beginning of his presidency.
 
2012-05-07 02:45:35 PM  
i.i.com.com
 
2012-05-07 02:45:38 PM  
How do you explain the lack of federal government growth, given the claim that Obama is growing government more than any other president in history?

Federal spending is at its highest level ever and projected to increase. Not that complicated.

downpaymentblues: Is the presupposition here that states DON'T get money from the federal government?


Has Obama proposed reduced spending to states? (factoring out the stimulus money that went to the states?
 
2012-05-07 02:59:43 PM  
Only Obama could grow the deficit at an accelerate rate while shrinking government at the same time. Amazing.
 
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