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(Investors Business Daily)   Right-wing blogodome outrage du jour for Monday, May 7: Obama congratulated newly elected French President Francois Hollande after his victory yesterday instead of nuking Paris and killing Jerry Lewis   (news.investors.com) divider line 285
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2012-05-07 11:00:36 AM
Does this mean I have to wear a beret now?
 
2012-05-07 11:05:33 AM
No, but it means you can now get a date with Melissa Theuriau.
 
2012-05-07 11:08:51 AM
Well to be fair I blame every modern president for failing to kill Jerry Lee Lewis.
 
2012-05-07 11:18:26 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well to be fair I blame every modern president for failing to kill Jerry Lee Lewis.


Jerry Lee Lewis??
 
2012-05-07 11:32:32 AM
More like Fartcois Hollande am I right
 
2012-05-07 11:34:54 AM

Jackson Herring: More like Fartcois Hollande am I right


Comrade Fartcois al-Hollande
 
2012-05-07 11:43:53 AM

Lionel Mandrake: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well to be fair I blame every modern president for failing to kill Jerry Lee Lewis.

Jerry Lee Lewis??


i.imgur.com

Yes, Jerry Lee Lewis. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
2012-05-07 11:44:49 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Jackson Herring: More like Fartcois Hollande am I right

Comrade Fartcois al-Hollande


==

More like ChairMao Fartcois al-Hollendaise
 
2012-05-07 11:48:20 AM

Somacandra: Lionel Mandrake: Jackson Herring: More like Fartcois Hollande am I right

Comrade Fartcois al-Hollande

==

More like ChairMao Fartcois al-Hollendaise


Don't get saucy with us, Bearnaise.
 
2012-05-07 11:49:59 AM
I didn't come up with Fartcois Hollande, I just appropriated it through government-mandated humor socialism
 
2012-05-07 11:51:26 AM
Freedom Fries again, it is!
 
2012-05-07 12:11:38 PM
Hourra! Pas plus la liberté frites!
 
2012-05-07 12:30:01 PM
I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.
 
2012-05-07 12:33:31 PM

Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.


What libertarian/capitalist sanctuary are they going to where they will be better off?
 
2012-05-07 12:38:16 PM

mrshowrules: What libertarian/capitalist sanctuary are they going to where they will be better off?


Almost everywhere else will be better than France. France is dying, and the French just elected the worst man that they could possibly elect.

/Because, well, Marine is a woman.
 
2012-05-07 12:41:05 PM
the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark
 
2012-05-07 12:46:07 PM

Jackson Herring: the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark


It's obvious. In electing a socialist, the French are directly opposing the desires of their German neighbors. You know what happened the last time France disobeyed Germany, right? And who fears the Germans more than anyone? You have to follow the *signs*, man, if you are going to get to the right conclusion!
 
2012-05-07 12:48:07 PM

Jackson Herring: the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark


He's talking about this
 
2012-05-07 12:50:58 PM

Tatsuma: mrshowrules: What libertarian/capitalist sanctuary are they going to where they will be better off?

Almost everywhere else will be better than France. France is dying, and the French just elected the worst man that they could possibly elect.

/Because, well, Marine is a woman fascist in a dress.


You need to see the emails I was getting from her campaign prior to her defeat. Jesus.
 
2012-05-07 12:53:04 PM

Lucky LaRue: It's obvious. In electing a socialist, the French are directly opposing the desires of their German neighbors. You know what happened the last time France disobeyed Germany, right? And who fears the Germans more than anyone? You have to follow the *signs*, man, if you are going to get to the right conclusion!


What does Germany have to do with this?

According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country.
There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.
 
2012-05-07 12:53:04 PM

Tatsuma: mrshowrules: What libertarian/capitalist sanctuary are they going to where they will be better off?

Almost everywhere else will be better than France. France is dying, and the French just elected the worst man that they could possibly elect.

/Because, well, Marine is a woman.


Humour me. Where for example?
 
2012-05-07 12:53:27 PM

Tatsuma: /Because, well, Marine is a woman.


A National Front supporter. Shocking.
 
2012-05-07 12:53:58 PM
How dare the French not listen to Republicans in America when it comes to running their country?!
 
2012-05-07 12:56:04 PM

Diogenes: Freedom Fries again, it is!


Freedom toast at IHOP!
 
2012-05-07 12:57:05 PM

Tatsuma: Lucky LaRue: It's obvious. In electing a socialist, the French are directly opposing the desires of their German neighbors. You know what happened the last time France disobeyed Germany, right? And who fears the Germans more than anyone? You have to follow the *signs*, man, if you are going to get to the right conclusion!

What does Germany have to do with this?

According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country. There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.


api.ning.com
 
2012-05-07 12:57:23 PM

give me doughnuts: He's talking about this


Yep. And that 25% of Jews wanting to leave France before Hollande's victory was even a sure thing.

I wouldn't be surprised to see an immediate 5-10% bump right away.

gilgigamesh: You need to see the emails I was getting from her campaign prior to her defeat. Jesus.


Oh I know. I read some of that stuff. That woman is vile. Her father in a dress.
 
2012-05-07 01:00:35 PM

Cagey B: A National Front supporter. Shocking.


I said that he was the worst man possible for the job.. because Marine is a woman. Meaning that Marine is worse, but not a man.

You not understanding something simple and coming to retarded conclusion? Shocking.
 
2012-05-07 01:04:12 PM

Tatsuma: Cagey B: A National Front supporter. Shocking.

I said that he was the worst man possible for the job.. because Marine is a woman. Meaning that Marine is worse, but not a man.

You not understanding something simple and coming to retarded conclusion? Shocking.


Oh! I didn't get it either. I thought you were saying people wouldn't vote for her because she is a woman.

It was a little vague.
 
2012-05-07 01:07:27 PM
Oh, fark Marine Le Pen and the fascist scumbag of a man she calls 'Papa'

I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.

Or well they might just start with us first, since there are less of us and well, hatred of Muslims might be their new thing, but good old anti-semitism is a classic there to stay.
 
2012-05-07 01:07:44 PM
Your blog should surrender and spare itself further humiliation
 
2012-05-07 01:10:20 PM
Just another example of how Obama is destroying America.
 
2012-05-07 01:24:36 PM

make me some tea: Just another example of how Obama is destroying America.


Clearly this means that Sarah Palin is now president and 0bama has to move to a chateau in the south of France & drink wine and eat cheese all day.

OK, aside from the Sarah Palin thing, that doesn't actually sound too bad.
 
2012-05-07 01:27:52 PM

gilgigamesh: It was a little vague.


Don't worry. His unclear writing is somehow everyone else's fault.

Also, Likud and the National Front share a love of xenophobia and scapegoating, so it didn't seem that unbelievable that our favorite apologist would be a Le Pen supporter.
 
2012-05-07 01:28:43 PM

Tatsuma: I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.


This is a new level for you, Tats.

Pre-persecution!
 
2012-05-07 01:40:39 PM
Surprise, surprise. 25% of the population are alarmists. Funny how that happens.
 
2012-05-07 01:42:51 PM

make me some tea: Surprise, surprise. 25% of the population are alarmists. Funny how that happens.


Surprise surprise, quelqu'un qui ne parle pas Francais, qui ne connait pas de Juifs Francais, qui a tres probablement jamais visite la France, ou meme parler avec un Juif Francais, se croit capable d'evaluer ce que pense cette communite, et d'expliquer les raisons derrieres leurs opinions, et meme les ridiculiser!

Ce n'est pas stupide, c'est FARK.
 
2012-05-07 01:43:38 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Jerry Lee Lewis??


Yeah, who else could we be talking about? Dude was all about the underage incest.
 
2012-05-07 01:45:35 PM

Tatsuma: Surprise surprise, quelqu'un qui ne parle pas Francais, qui ne connait pas de Juifs Francais, qui a tres probablement jamais visite la France, ou meme parler avec un Juif Francais, se croit capable d'evaluer ce que pense cette communite, et d'expliquer les raisons derrieres leurs opinions, et meme les ridiculiser!


So, you're now a French, American Jew, living in Israel, who doesn't support but does support Likud.
 
2012-05-07 01:50:34 PM
My favorite part of this thread is that a Jew living in Israel apparently knows better for the French people than 52% of French voters.
 
2012-05-07 02:00:19 PM

Tatsuma: Except that I was active for years with ARA and literally fought facists and far-rightists bloody with my fists.


We've now reached the "Internet Tough Guy" stage.
 
2012-05-07 02:01:57 PM

Tatsuma: Surprise surprise, quelqu'un qui ne parle pas Francais, qui ne connait pas de Juifs Francais, qui a tres probablement jamais visite la France, ou meme parler avec un Juif Francais, se croit capable d'evaluer ce que pense cette communite, et d'expliquer les raisons derrieres leurs opinions, et meme les ridiculiser!

Ce n'est pas stupide, c'est FARK.


Je viens de faire une declaration generale...mange ma bite.
 
2012-05-07 02:05:20 PM

cameroncrazy1984: adamgreeney: I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Especially since he basically agrees with everything Likud has been doing.


Exactly. It sounds like he's saying both sides are bad, which is fine, but he's also saying both are the worst options ever. So what could they have done? Even from Tats' view, it seems like France got the best option.
 
2012-05-07 02:05:59 PM
I really do hope that Hollande makes smart decisions and does go away from the austerity that is killing other European countries.
 
2012-05-07 02:07:04 PM

make me some tea: Je viens de faire une declaration generale...mange ma bite.


Wah, tu peux utilise Google Translate? Impressionant!
 
2012-05-07 02:07:44 PM

adamgreeney: cameroncrazy1984: adamgreeney: I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Especially since he basically agrees with everything Likud has been doing.

Exactly. It sounds like he's saying both sides are bad, which is fine, but he's also saying both are the worst options ever. So what could they have done? Even from Tats' view, it seems like France got the best option.


The only thing I can see in this thread where he says it'll be bad for France is that weird-ass statement that 25% of French Jews will be leaving. Which sounds a hell of a lot like what happened in 2004 when all the Dems left. Right? We all went to Canada, didn't we?
 
2012-05-07 02:08:29 PM

Tatsuma: make me some tea: Je viens de faire une declaration generale...mange ma bite.

Wah, tu peux utilise Google Translate? Impressionant!


So can you, apparently.
 
2012-05-07 02:08:44 PM

adamgreeney: And I will say, while I disagree with you on everything (other than the Whedon love and Fallout love), I really don't doubt that you oppose the fascist parties. That makes sense. I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.


Well, all choices were bad, but I guess the default Sarkozy was the 'best of the worst'.

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.
 
2012-05-07 02:09:13 PM

Speaker2Animals: No, but it means you can now get a date with Melissa Theuriau.


cdn2.damnfunnypictures.com

Tongue punch fartbox line seems to fit in well here
 
2012-05-07 02:09:30 PM

Tatsuma: I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.


Which is...what, exactly? More social services? THE HORROR
 
2012-05-07 02:10:21 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: And I will say, while I disagree with you on everything (other than the Whedon love and Fallout love), I really don't doubt that you oppose the fascist parties. That makes sense. I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Well, all choices were bad, but I guess the default Sarkozy was the 'best of the worst'.

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.


Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.
 
2012-05-07 02:11:17 PM
This isn't a Jewish question.

This was about how austerity caused a double-dip recession, and the French got sick of it. Remains to be seen if they can work their way out of it, but I wish them luck.
 
2012-05-07 02:12:03 PM

Tatsuma: make me some tea: Je viens de faire une declaration generale...mange ma bite.

Wah, tu peux utilise Google Translate? Impressionant!


I had 3 years of French class in high school and I have been there as well and would like to see more of France because it's a fascinating country to me. I'm not conversational in French, but I speak enough to get by.

No, I don't know specifics about what it's like to be a Jew in France, nor is that really something that concerns me atm, but I am very familiar with people being reactionary about perceived dangers that may or may not exist. Example: Liberals asserting that they were going to move to Canada or Europe when Bush was reelected in 2004.
 
2012-05-07 02:12:33 PM

Jackson Herring: the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark


Indeed I was part of this French Jewish exodus. I left in June 2005 after a lovely two week vacation.
 
2012-05-07 02:14:49 PM

sweetmelissa31: Jackson Herring: the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark

Indeed I was part of this French Jewish exodus. I left in June 2005 after a lovely two week vacation.


la diaspora
 
2012-05-07 02:15:15 PM
Seriously though, why didn't France elect Benjamin Netanyahu president?
 
2012-05-07 02:16:39 PM

sweetmelissa31: Seriously though, why didn't France elect Benjamin Netanyahu president?


I think they should. France has nukes.
 
2012-05-07 02:16:46 PM

Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.


So more Democratic Jews to US then......
 
2012-05-07 02:18:33 PM
wow
 
2012-05-07 02:18:47 PM

Pharque-it: T-a: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

So more Democratic Jews to US then......


Woww....
 
2012-05-07 02:19:12 PM

make me some tea: sweetmelissa31: Seriously though, why didn't France elect Benjamin Netanyahu president?

I think they should. France has nukes.


It would be in their best interest, which I know all about, having been to the Eiffel Tower.
 
2012-05-07 02:19:37 PM

Tatsuma: According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country. There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.


Can't they all stay at your place?
 
2012-05-07 02:19:39 PM

sweetmelissa31: Seriously though, why didn't France elect Benjamin Netanyahu president?


Keep that smug, sneering sarcasm to yourself, Adolfina Hitlerette.
 
2012-05-07 02:20:01 PM

adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.


There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.

make me some tea: I had 3 years of French class in high school and I have been there as well and would like to see more of France because it's a fascinating country to me. I'm not conversational in French, but I speak enough to get by.


Definitely not conversational, because that was awkwardly worded.

make me some tea: No, I don't know specifics about what it's like to be a Jew in France, nor is that really something that concerns me atm


Then I would suggest you do not discuss this without informing yourself first.
 
2012-05-07 02:20:28 PM

Tatsuma: Lucky LaRue: It's obvious. In electing a socialist, the French are directly opposing the desires of their German neighbors. You know what happened the last time France disobeyed Germany, right? And who fears the Germans more than anyone? You have to follow the *signs*, man, if you are going to get to the right conclusion!

What does Germany have to do with this?

According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country. There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.


I'm sure that has nothing to do at all with France's strict laws against public displays of non-christian religious symbology
 
2012-05-07 02:20:54 PM
Sarkozy's campaign talked of banning Kosher food practices.

and yet the Jews wanted him over Hollande.

because Israel.

the mind boggles.
 
2012-05-07 02:20:56 PM
It's kind of funny how much hair-wringing is going on about Hollande's victory. Look, he has to stick with fiscally responsible policies. He has no choice or he'll wreck France's economy and by extension, the Euro Zone. I mean, it's just crazy - it would be like the Republicans willfully trying to force the US to default on our debts in the face of all rational pleas against it.

Oh wait - that's a terrible, terrible example.
 
2012-05-07 02:21:42 PM

I Said: How dare the French not listen to Republicans in America when it comes to running their country?!


How dare the French not listen to Republicans in America when it comes to ruining their country?!
 
2012-05-07 02:21:48 PM

sweetmelissa31: It would be in their best interest, which I know all about, having been to the Eiffel Tower.


I know you are joking around, but this is literally how many Farkers think. Except they have not even been to the Eiffel Tower, but saw pictures and watched Amelie
 
2012-05-07 02:22:16 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: This isn't a Jewish question.


No, can't you see this is all about jewish people? Some guy on the internet said a bunch of French jews want to leave the country, and that's the real news.
 
2012-05-07 02:22:32 PM

Tatsuma: he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%


He wants to raise the top marginal rate on income over 1 million euros TO 75%

Jesus, at least do some research before you look like an idiot.
 
2012-05-07 02:22:47 PM

dumbobruni: Sarkozy's campaign talked of banning Kosher food practices.

and yet the Jews wanted him over Hollande.

because Israel.

the mind boggles.


Prime example of people who have no idea what they are talking about in my last post.
 
2012-05-07 02:23:10 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.


Yeah, France has a long history of social unrest when the wealthy are taxed too much.
 
2012-05-07 02:23:26 PM
getting back to TFA:

Last week after 11 months of silence on the nation's longest war ever

wat
 
2012-05-07 02:24:57 PM
Paris, France: 2014

themodulator.org
 
2012-05-07 02:25:15 PM

Tatsuma: sweetmelissa31: It would be in their best interest, which I know all about, having been to the Eiffel Tower.

I know you are joking around, but this is literally how many Farkers think. Except they have not even been to the Eiffel Tower, but saw pictures and watched Amelie


I doubt you've seen all of Amelie.
 
2012-05-07 02:25:37 PM

Jackson Herring: Pharque-it: T-a: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

So more Democratic Jews to US then......

Woww....


True that...
 
2012-05-07 02:25:50 PM

Tatsuma: dumbobruni: Sarkozy's campaign talked of banning Kosher food practices.

and yet the Jews wanted him over Hollande.

because Israel.

the mind boggles.

Prime example of people who have no idea what they are talking about in my last post.


says the guy who doesn't understand Hollande's tax plans
 
2012-05-07 02:25:57 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Tatsuma: adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.

Yeah, France has a long history of social unrest when the wealthy are taxed too much.


Oh that's good. I like that one.
 
2012-05-07 02:27:14 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.

make me some tea: I had 3 years of French class in high school and I have been there as well and would like to see more of France because it's a fascinating country to me. I'm not conversational in French, but I speak enough to get by.

Definitely not conversational, because that was awkwardly worded.

make me some tea: No, I don't know specifics about what it's like to be a Jew in France, nor is that really something that concerns me atm

Then I would suggest you do not discuss this without informing yourself first.


Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.
 
2012-05-07 02:27:29 PM

Tatsuma: sweetmelissa31: It would be in their best interest, which I know all about, having been to the Eiffel Tower.

I know you are joking around, but this is literally how many Farkers think. Except they have not even been to the Eiffel Tower, but saw pictures and watched Amelie


Well then, thank God the 1% of the French population who are Jews have you to speak for them. Or rather, the Orthodox ones (who I'd wager are more like .2%) who apparently think that Hollande is going to declare jihad on Jews because he has the audacity to admit there are more Muslims in France than Jews.

/Posting from Canada
//Bush gone yet?
 
2012-05-07 02:28:04 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.

make me some tea: I had 3 years of French class in high school and I have been there as well and would like to see more of France because it's a fascinating country to me. I'm not conversational in French, but I speak enough to get by.

Definitely not conversational, because that was awkwardly worded.

make me some tea: No, I don't know specifics about what it's like to be a Jew in France, nor is that really something that concerns me atm

Then I would suggest you do not discuss this without informing yourself first.


sweetmelissa31: Paris, France: 2014

[themodulator.org image 400x267]


Some parts of the US already do look like that....
 
2012-05-07 02:28:35 PM

adamgreeney: Tatsuma: adamgreeney: And I will say, while I disagree with you on everything (other than the Whedon love and Fallout love), I really don't doubt that you oppose the fascist parties. That makes sense. I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Well, all choices were bad, but I guess the default Sarkozy was the 'best of the worst'.

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.

Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.


It's pretty much been proven that the farked chicken in this room is austerity. It's a shiatty economic policy touted by right wing morons, billionaires and the idiots that worship them. I agree with you; I think we'll see some damned interesting developments in France. This is quite the turn-a-round from the global right wing surge of 2010. I hope it spreads.
 
2012-05-07 02:29:26 PM

Tatsuma: Oh, fark Marine Le Pen and the fascist scumbag of a man she calls 'Papa'

I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.

Or well they might just start with us first, since there are less of us and well, hatred of Muslims might be their new thing, but good old anti-semitism is a classic there to stay.


Proejection. How does it work?
 
2012-05-07 02:30:05 PM

Tatsuma: Then I would suggest you do not discuss this without informing yourself first.


I don't really care to, honestly. The article and headline have nothing to do with Jewish people in France to begin with.

.
.
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So, how about that Fartbama selling America out to the commie French, huh? WTF is that guys's problem?
 
2012-05-07 02:31:41 PM

Pharque-it: Some parts of the US already do look like that....


Massachusetts, for example, ever since the devastating effects of Romneycare
 
2012-05-07 02:32:34 PM

Pharque-it: Some parts of the US already do look like that....


Thanks to Presidebt Fartcois Hussein Fartbama
 
2012-05-07 02:33:41 PM

adamgreeney: Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.


It is, but don't expect Tats to ever admit he was wrong about it.
 
2012-05-07 02:34:05 PM

trotsky: adamgreeney: Tatsuma: adamgreeney: And I will say, while I disagree with you on everything (other than the Whedon love and Fallout love), I really don't doubt that you oppose the fascist parties. That makes sense. I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Well, all choices were bad, but I guess the default Sarkozy was the 'best of the worst'.

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.

Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

It's pretty much been proven that the farked chicken in this room is austerity. It's a shiatty economic policy touted by right wing morons, billionaires and the idiots that worship them. I agree with you; I think we'll see some damned interesting developments in France. This is quite the turn-a-round from the global right wing surge of 2010. I hope it spreads.


That's what I expect to see. It will be rough since the rich will spend more money opposing it than they would just paying the new proposed taxes, but I bet we see France improve far ahead of England, Greece, et all.
 
2012-05-07 02:36:16 PM

cameroncrazy1984: adamgreeney: Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.

It is, but don't expect Tats to ever admit he was wrong about it.


And regardless, a tax hike that high will NEVER pass. Not yet anyway. It'll be 40-50% and after the initial biatching, things will improve and everyone in Europe will follow suit.
 
2012-05-07 02:36:31 PM
In defense of the right wing, Jerry Lewis is a drunk.
 
2012-05-07 02:37:30 PM
I now hear James Brown singing in my head, but the lyrics aren't quite right. He's singing "Get on the Left foot."

Sing it James.
 
2012-05-07 02:37:39 PM

sweetmelissa31: Pharque-it: Some parts of the US already do look like that....

Thanks to Presidebt Fartcois Hussein Fartbama


The president so nice you farted him twice
 
2012-05-07 02:38:17 PM
Seriously, think back on all the paranoid political ramblings that this guy has posted...has any of it been correct? Ever?

Does any thinking person truly believe that France is now doomed? This is warmed over bullshiat from an ass-chapped right winger.
 
2012-05-07 02:39:15 PM

Lunchlady: Well then, thank God the 1% of the French population who are Jews have you to speak for them. Or rather, the Orthodox ones (who I'd wager are more like .2%) who apparently think that Hollande is going to declare jihad on Jews because he has the audacity to admit there are more Muslims in France than Jews.


Except that's not in any way what I said?

adamgreeney: And regardless, a tax hike that high will NEVER pass.


Well, considering the results of this election, yeah it will.
 
2012-05-07 02:39:58 PM

dumbobruni: says the guy who doesn't understand Hollande's tax plans


Yeah, except he said he would raise the income tax of the rich to 75%


Plus, that doesn't change the fact that you're still completely clueless regarding French Jews.

adamgreeney: Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.


Look, 40-50% is perfectly acceptable to me, even if it would have a negative impact on the economy, but 75% is just absolutely and completely ridiculous.

Anyone who wants to start a business and succeed will simply pack up his bags and go somewhere else.
 
2012-05-07 02:40:38 PM

sweetmelissa31: Pharque-it: Some parts of the US already do look like that....

Thanks to Presidebt Fartcois Hussein Fartbama


Thanks for the chuckle!
 
2012-05-07 02:44:29 PM
C'est un bon fromage.
 
2012-05-07 02:46:23 PM
Ok Subby Let's have a look see.

Right Wing Americans - Check
France - Check
Obama - Check
Hollande - Check
Jews -


Huh, that's weird.
 
2012-05-07 02:48:23 PM

Tatsuma: Yeah, except he said he would raise the income tax of the rich to 75%


You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.
 
2012-05-07 02:49:17 PM

JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.


Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?
 
2012-05-07 02:49:57 PM

Tatsuma: dumbobruni: says the guy who doesn't understand Hollande's tax plans

Yeah, except he said he would raise the income tax of the rich to 75%


Plus, that doesn't change the fact that you're still completely clueless regarding French Jews.

adamgreeney: Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.

Look, 40-50% is perfectly acceptable to me, even if it would have a negative impact on the economy, but 75% is just absolutely and completely ridiculous.

Anyone who wants to start a business and succeed will simply pack up his bags and go somewhere else.


Like israel

2012 income tax highest bracket 48%
health care tax 10%
VAT 16%

libertarian paradise

yes I know about incentives for returning or new immigrants. Just means the people already there have to pay more to support new comers (leeches).
 
2012-05-07 02:50:04 PM

unlikely: Does this mean I have to wear a beret now?


No, it means you get to.
 
2012-05-07 02:50:41 PM
Heh... Who could have guess that imposing harsh austerity measures to force the poor and middle classes to pay for the excesses and greed of the wealthy elite would result in them electing a Socialist?
 
2012-05-07 02:51:31 PM
Oh, in my Boobies I said 'by' instead of 'to'.

I obviously didn't mean the former. Sorry about the confusion.
 
2012-05-07 02:52:19 PM

Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.

Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?


its 75% of income above €1mm

all income below would be at the existing top rate of 41%

do you not understand how french income tax works?
 
2012-05-07 02:52:28 PM

Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.

Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?


It's only on income above 1 million euros. Go look up "marginal" in the dictionary. One of the definitions probably applies to your intellect.
 
2012-05-07 02:53:00 PM

Tatsuma: dumbobruni: says the guy who doesn't understand Hollande's tax plans

Yeah, except he said he would raise the income tax of the rich to 75%


Plus, that doesn't change the fact that you're still completely clueless regarding French Jews.

adamgreeney: Isn't the raise only on income over a million euros? I think the 75% will end up at 40-50%, which I think will be a good thing. I imagine his rhetoric is much like politics anywhere. He talks big, but will be forced to the center on most things.

Look, 40-50% is perfectly acceptable to me, even if it would have a negative impact on the economy, but 75% is just absolutely and completely ridiculous.

Anyone who wants to start a business and succeed will simply pack up his bags and go somewhere else.


I hate that "take my ball and go home" line, but you're probably right on this. That's why I doubt he'll go that big.

If he goes full on college-commie I think it'll go poorly. If he's sensible and socialist, I have hope.
 
2012-05-07 02:53:23 PM

Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.


You know who else wanted all the Jews out of France?
 
2012-05-07 02:54:44 PM

12349876: Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.

Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?

It's only on income above 1 million euros. Go look up "marginal" in the dictionary. One of the definitions probably applies to your intellect.


i'm guessing Tatsuma's next step is an argument of semantics of what counts as rich in France.
 
2012-05-07 02:55:37 PM

Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.

Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?


You inferred at the beginning of your numerous posts that he would raise taxes BY 75%. Another poster tried to clarify by saying, people who earn 1 Million Euros would be raised TO 75%. You defended what you said by posting a link trying to cement your claim.

Meaning if they were 30% and raised another 75% on top of that vs. 30% to 75%. There is a difference between the two

30% is an example and not intended to be accurate.
 
2012-05-07 02:55:42 PM

dumbobruni: Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You didn't even read your own link. Please read it again.

Tax bracket of 75%

What am I not getting?

its 75% of income above €1mm

all income below would be at the existing top rate of 41%

do you not understand how french income tax works?


And apparently it works pretty much the same as it does in the US:

The wealthiest taxpayers usually manage to cut their overall tax rate substantially. In France, the wealthiest 0.1% of taxpayers have an overall tax rate of 17.5%, according to the 2009 study.
 
2012-05-07 02:56:31 PM
This having to do with the French, I choose to believe that it is all about wine, and cheese.
 
2012-05-07 02:57:35 PM

QU!RK1019: You know who else wanted all the Jews out of France?


The funny thing? If you were to ask around you'd find a lot of rich French, including those covered by the proposed income tax hike having voted for Hollande.
 
2012-05-07 02:58:04 PM

adamgreeney: I hate that "take my ball and go home" line, but you're probably right on this. That's why I doubt he'll go that big.

If he goes full on college-commie I think it'll go poorly. If he's sensible and socialist, I have hope.


Taxation on small business owners in France is already bad as it is, something like that would be absolutely catastrophic.

I understand that it plays really well to the college-commie crowd, but this is absolutely the worst thing that the fragile French economy needs right now.

Then again, Angela Merkel must be celebrating, because soon another European country will be begging for help.
 
2012-05-07 02:58:43 PM
ITT a Jewish guy doesn't understand taxes.
 
2012-05-07 02:59:38 PM

Tatsuma: Then again, Angela Merkel must be celebrating, because soon another European country will be begging for help.


You keep saying this but refusing to provide evidence why, except for that lie that Hollande will raise taxes on rich people by 75%.
 
2012-05-07 03:02:55 PM

JusticeandIndependence: You inferred at the beginning of your numerous posts that he would raise taxes BY 75%.


Already covered that, that was an error, which is why I didn't understand why he was arguing with me

WhyteRaven74: The funny thing? If you were to ask around you'd find a lot of rich French, including those covered by the proposed income tax hike having voted for Hollande.


Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.
 
2012-05-07 03:03:02 PM
Rising nationalism may be a concern, but it is also the logical consequence of the attempts to homogenize Europe under the German Empire, or whatever they're calling it these days.
 
2012-05-07 03:03:57 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Then again, Angela Merkel must be celebrating, because soon another European country will be begging for help.

You keep saying this but refusing to provide evidence why, except for that lie that Hollande will raise taxes on rich people by 75%.


Some guy told him things were going gangbusters at the Israeli immigration office. Evidence.
 
2012-05-07 03:05:39 PM
With any luck Americans will learn something from our French comrades.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-05-07 03:05:41 PM

QU!RK1019: You know who else wanted all the Jews out of France?


Apparently Israel and Tatsuma who think they should all move to Israel and use various scare tactics to encourage them.
 
2012-05-07 03:05:52 PM

Tatsuma: JusticeandIndependence: You inferred at the beginning of your numerous posts that he would raise taxes BY 75%.

Already covered that, that was an error, which is why I didn't understand why he was arguing with me

WhyteRaven74: The funny thing? If you were to ask around you'd find a lot of rich French, including those covered by the proposed income tax hike having voted for Hollande.

Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.


Fair enough. I didn't see the clarification. I apologize.

So Obama is a commie muslin mustard loving socialist then?
 
2012-05-07 03:06:56 PM

HotWingConspiracy: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Then again, Angela Merkel must be celebrating, because soon another European country will be begging for help.

You keep saying this but refusing to provide evidence why, except for that lie that Hollande will raise taxes on rich people by 75%.

Some guy told him things were going gangbusters at the Israeli immigration office. Evidence.


Well, you know, anecdotes are a KIND of data.
 
2012-05-07 03:07:48 PM

Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.


How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.
 
2012-05-07 03:08:23 PM

Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.


I Said: How dare the French not listen to Republicans in America when it comes to running their country?!

 
2012-05-07 03:08:58 PM
Facile de trouver l'opératif politique dans cette discussion...

Je vous donne une indice: C'est celui qui ce pense un expert sur la France et qui pense que le ciel nous tombe sur la tête constament.

/où sont vos accents?!
//Habite Montréal et à habiter la France
///n'est pas surpris qu'on aille élu un cadidat de la gauche
 
2012-05-07 03:10:09 PM

Patterson: Facile de trouver l'opératif politique dans cette discussion...

Je vous donne une indice: C'est celui qui ce pense un expert sur la France et qui pense que le ciel nous tombe sur la tête constament.

/où sont vos accents?!
//Habite Montréal et à habiter la France
///n'est pas surpris qu'on aille élu un cadidat de la gauche


Ouf...ma conjugaison fait dûr un peut...

"et a habité"
 
2012-05-07 03:11:59 PM

Patterson: Facile de trouver l'opératif politique dans cette discussion...


Operatif politique?

Alerte aux anglos.
 
2012-05-07 03:12:00 PM

Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.


Rich people in Europe tend to not be very much like rich people in the US. A few years back a bunch of wealthy Germans got together and wanted a wealth tax to be instated to raise extra revenue for social programs, education and ecological programs. Their thinking was, since they're wealthy they don't care about an extra tax and more to the point it is their responsibility because of their wealth to see to it others are taken care of.
 
2012-05-07 03:13:07 PM
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-07 03:13:16 PM

Patterson: Ouf...ma conjugaison fait dûr un peut...


Operatif polique. 'Facile de'. 'habiter la France'. 'qu'on aille'. 'fait dûr un peut.'


C'est un desastre, pur et simple.
 
2012-05-07 03:13:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.


I hate to do work for trolls, but this interactive voting map may bring some insight as to who voted for who. You could maybe infer richer demographics depending on the region...but it doesn't seem to have detailed demographics info.

Voter map
 
2012-05-07 03:13:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Then again, Angela Merkel must be celebrating, because soon another European country will be begging for help.

You keep saying this but refusing to provide evidence why, except for that lie that Hollande will raise taxes on rich people by 75%.



How disingenuous can you be? He clearly meant purse scents...under Hollande's tyrannical rule, the rich will be deprived of such olfactory delights as "unneutered house cat" and "menopausal sorrow".
 
2012-05-07 03:13:34 PM

WhyteRaven74: Rich people in Europe tend to not be very much like rich people in the US. A few years back a bunch of wealthy Germans got together and wanted a wealth tax to be instated to raise extra revenue for social programs, education and ecological programs. Their thinking was, since they're wealthy they don't care about an extra tax and more to the point it is their responsibility because of their wealth to see to it others are taken care of.


They're more Carnegie than Romney.
 
2012-05-07 03:14:54 PM

WhyteRaven74: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

Rich people in Europe tend to not be very much like rich people in the US. A few years back a bunch of wealthy Germans got together and wanted a wealth tax to be instated to raise extra revenue for social programs, education and ecological programs. Their thinking was, since they're wealthy they don't care about an extra tax and more to the point it is their responsibility because of their wealth to see to it others are taken care of.


wealthy French people already asked for their taxes to go up

Link
 
2012-05-07 03:15:40 PM

dumbobruni: WhyteRaven74: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

Rich people in Europe tend to not be very much like rich people in the US. A few years back a bunch of wealthy Germans got together and wanted a wealth tax to be instated to raise extra revenue for social programs, education and ecological programs. Their thinking was, since they're wealthy they don't care about an extra tax and more to the point it is their responsibility because of their wealth to see to it others are taken care of.

wealthy French people already asked for their taxes to go up

Link


But but a Jew in Israel said they would all leave! Are you saying he doesn't know what the f*ck he's talking about?

SAY IT AIN'T SO!
 
2012-05-07 03:18:26 PM

Patterson: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.

I hate to do work for trolls, but this interactive voting map may bring some insight as to who voted for who. You could maybe infer richer demographics depending on the region...but it doesn't seem to have detailed demographics info.

Voter map


Check out the voter turnout on that map. 75%+ in every region. You could say that the people voted at least.
 
2012-05-07 03:18:49 PM
The French government appears to be incapable of protecting its Jewish citizenry. The election of an avowedly anti-Israeli government does little to increase confidence.Under the circumstances, their desire to move elsewhere seems understandable.

That was a bit of a threadjack, though, Tatsuma.
 
2012-05-07 03:19:26 PM

dumbobruni: wealthy French people already asked for their taxes to go up

Link


Yes, 16 French billionaires who said that its a good idea taxes should be raised by 3% on capital, and increase taxation on cigarettes and alcohol for a limited period of time until the economic crisis passes is really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.
 
2012-05-07 03:20:45 PM

clambam: The French government appears to be incapable of protecting its Jewish citizenry. The election of an avowedly anti-Israeli government does little to increase confidence.Under the circumstances, their desire to move elsewhere seems understandable.

That was a bit of a threadjack, though, Tatsuma.


Well I think the worst thing that will come from that will be the growing resentment of the Arab population, and the resulting clashes, but that's a can of worm I prefer not to open.

Secularists will not be loved by them, even though they overwhelmingly voted for Hollande.
 
2012-05-07 03:21:45 PM

Tatsuma: Patterson: Facile de trouver l'opératif politique dans cette discussion...

Operatif politique?

Alerte aux anglos.


Pas de clavier francophone? T'as pas l'option de changer la langue dans les options? J'ai de la misère que l'on m'appelle un anglo sans utiliser les bons accents...Aussi, la phrase "alerte aux anglos" n'est pas vraiment une phrase commune.

Là je sais comment Tats ce sens quand il corrige les erreurs de conjugaison et d'usage en Hébreux. C'est vraiment un sentiment de pouvoir et de supériorité.

/idea for an alt!
 
2012-05-07 03:21:59 PM

clambam: The French government appears to be incapable of protecting its Jewish citizenry. The election of an avowedly anti-Israeli government does little to increase confidence.Under the circumstances, their desire to move elsewhere seems understandable.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-07 03:22:17 PM
Here's what I don't understand: for weeks I have been reading that the extreme right-wing in France had made great strides; the socialist actually wins. Why would this be skewed outside of France? I expect that sort of thing here where a close race means better ratings/more papers sold. But why was the press so wrong about the French election?
 
2012-05-07 03:22:47 PM

Patterson: Voter map


Hollande won Paris by 11.2%, daaaaammmnnnnn.

dumbobruni: wealthy French people already asked for their taxes to go up


Not surprising.
 
2012-05-07 03:23:22 PM
Ah!

Tu ne parles pas Francais, tu parles quebecois!
 
2012-05-07 03:24:14 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Patterson: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.

I hate to do work for trolls, but this interactive voting map may bring some insight as to who voted for who. You could maybe infer richer demographics depending on the region...but it doesn't seem to have detailed demographics info.

Voter map

Check out the voter turnout on that map. 75%+ in every region. You could say that the people voted at least.


Yeah, makes me ashamed as a Canadian. Our voter turnouts tend to be really sad.
 
2012-05-07 03:24:19 PM

Tatsuma: is really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.


I suspect they won't mind the increased income tax. They are in their own eyes loaded, and if it is needed, they can afford it.
 
2012-05-07 03:25:55 PM

WhyteRaven74: I suspect they won't mind the increased income tax. They are in their own eyes loaded, and if it is needed, they can afford it.


I am sure that's how it is in imaginary france, where people eat croissants all day and fight for liberty through poetry


Assez de conneries, je me casse.

/that means, enough with this shiat, I am off
 
2012-05-07 03:26:43 PM

Tatsuma: Secularists will not be loved by them, even though they overwhelmingly voted for Hollande.


Yeah they probably voted for him to as a personal appeal to Arabs. Makes sense.
 
2012-05-07 03:27:13 PM

Patterson: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.

I hate to do work for trolls, but this interactive voting map may bring some insight as to who voted for who. You could maybe infer richer demographics depending on the region...but it doesn't seem to have detailed demographics info.

Voter map


mixed bag really, here's a map of French property prices.

Link

Paris is wealthy but voted for Hollande. same with the suburbs except for one (92-Sarkozy was a mayor in this area)

Yvelines is a UNP stronghold but went for Hollande. That's gotta hurt.

it appears that Toulouse voted Hollande, as did Gironde (Bordeaux wine country)
 
2012-05-07 03:27:15 PM

Patterson: JusticeandIndependence: Patterson: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: Funny thing, that statement is not rooted in facts.

How many wealthy French voted for Hollande, then? Since you know the facts.

I hate to do work for trolls, but this interactive voting map may bring some insight as to who voted for who. You could maybe infer richer demographics depending on the region...but it doesn't seem to have detailed demographics info.

Voter map

Check out the voter turnout on that map. 75%+ in every region. You could say that the people voted at least.

Yeah, makes me ashamed as a Canadian. Our voter turnouts tend to be really sad.


It's too cold to go vote.
 
2012-05-07 03:30:10 PM
When will the right wing in France let their butthurt get the better of them and throw their support behind some Generalissimo Franco type nut?
 
2012-05-07 03:30:31 PM

Speaker2Animals: No, but it means you can now get a date with Melissa Theuriau.


share the wealth, biatches.
 
2012-05-07 03:30:52 PM

Tatsuma: dumbobruni: says the guy who doesn't understand Hollande's tax plans

Yeah, except he said he would raise the income tax of the rich to 75%


i21.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-07 03:31:04 PM
I'm pretty sure Obama was going to congratulate whoever won.
 
2012-05-07 03:31:10 PM

Tatsuma: Ah!

Tu ne parles pas Francais, tu parles quebecois!


Un peut des deux en fait...j'ai vécu la grande majoritée de ma vie au Québec, mais j'ai aussi passé quelque année à Paris (...ben...Le Vézinet) et j'ai une mêre Belge. Le résulat donne un accent bizzarement neutre.

Comme Québecois, j'avoue à 100% que le niveau de notre français n'est pas très élevé. Je dois dire par contre qu'un français soigné du Québec (le français de Radio-Canada, Pierre Houde) est le plus beau français parlé au monde. Le français de France est replis de mots inutiles et d'un usage trop élogieux. Je sais pas comment les gens font pour regarder les émissions en style "panel show" où il y a 4 pseudo-intellectels qui aiment s'entendre parler.
 
2012-05-07 03:33:42 PM

qorkfiend: I'm pretty sure Obama was going to congratulate whoever won.


Now you've done opened a can of worms
 
2012-05-07 03:35:05 PM
Also I wonder those right wing bloggers realize Sarkozy has pretty much nothing in common with him, if they looked at his policies they wouldn't find much to agree with.
 
2012-05-07 03:38:31 PM
Christians have right-wing fundamentalist nutjobs as their self-appointed spokespeople ... all we get is Tatsuma.
 
2012-05-07 03:41:51 PM

Tatsuma: really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.


HOW DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND MARGINAL TAX RATES
 
2012-05-07 03:42:41 PM

JusticeandIndependence: qorkfiend: I'm pretty sure Obama was going to congratulate whoever won.

Now you've done opened a can of worms


You can't prove that! If Sarkozy won his reelection, I can say Obama would slip in a middle finger when he congradulates him.
 
2012-05-07 03:42:56 PM

DeaH: Here's what I don't understand: for weeks I have been reading that the extreme right-wing in France had made great strides; the socialist actually wins. Why would this be skewed outside of France? I expect that sort of thing here where a close race means better ratings/more papers sold. But why was the press so wrong about the French election?


I think that even though the Socialist won, the super crazy far-right party also got more votes than they usually do.
 
2012-05-07 03:43:17 PM
Why do you people allow that attention whore to hijack every farking thread he posts in?
 
2012-05-07 03:46:07 PM

Jackson Herring: DeaH: Here's what I don't understand: for weeks I have been reading that the extreme right-wing in France had made great strides; the socialist actually wins. Why would this be skewed outside of France? I expect that sort of thing here where a close race means better ratings/more papers sold. But why was the press so wrong about the French election?

I think that even though the Socialist won, the super crazy far-right party also got more votes than they usually do.


Same thing happened in Greece. Both of the major parties paid big-time.

What happens when you throw out both major parties? You find out that the minor parties have an amazing capacity to be populated by crazy people.
 
2012-05-07 03:47:46 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.

HOW DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND MARGINAL TAX RATES


I honestly think that Tats has never worked a day in his life. That or he has never made it from the lowest bracket.
 
2012-05-07 03:47:56 PM
Oh, what honor these fabled "rich" people have. Such cowards. Tuck, tail, and run? Where are their loyalties? So I should just assume there is no such thing as patriotism anymore?

Traitors, the lot of them.
 
2012-05-07 03:48:01 PM

eraser8: Why do you people allow that attention whore to hijack every farking thread he posts in?


Sorry. You make a very good point.
 
2012-05-07 03:49:36 PM

pacified: ...Tuck tail and run? ...


// ftfm
// oh the butt hurt.
 
2012-05-07 03:50:01 PM

Gosling: Jackson Herring: DeaH: Here's what I don't understand: for weeks I have been reading that the extreme right-wing in France had made great strides; the socialist actually wins. Why would this be skewed outside of France? I expect that sort of thing here where a close race means better ratings/more papers sold. But why was the press so wrong about the French election?

I think that even though the Socialist won, the super crazy far-right party also got more votes than they usually do.

Same thing happened in Greece. Both of the major parties paid big-time.

What happens when you throw out both major parties? You find out that the minor parties have an amazing capacity to be populated by crazy people.


In light of the other thread on the Greek Nazis I was looking at the election returns for the 1932 German election, and I've decided that the Germans were fubar no matter how the election went. There were 3 options: the aging, reluctant incumbent (Hindenburg), the Nazis, and the Communists. The only one who wasn't crazy was the one who really didn't want to be there.
 
2012-05-07 03:52:13 PM

make me some tea: Liberals asserting that they were going to move to Canada or Europe when Bush was reelected in 2004.


I was just reading about a guy who actually did this.

Pierre Salinger

He was JFK's press secertary and briefly a Senator from California, as well as a reporter.
 
2012-05-07 03:53:00 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: Hmmmm. Interesting. I think, worst case, we will see full on socialist policies take a hold and there will be a good case to be made as to how well they work. Personally, I think they will.

There will be a growing flight of France's best talents.

He said that straight out of the gate, he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%. Its going to eventually kill the economy and France is going to join Greece in terms of social unrest. Give it two to four years at most.

make me some tea: I had 3 years of French class in high school and I have been there as well and would like to see more of France because it's a fascinating country to me. I'm not conversational in French, but I speak enough to get by.

Definitely not conversational, because that was awkwardly worded.

make me some tea: No, I don't know specifics about what it's like to be a Jew in France, nor is that really something that concerns me atm

Then I would suggest you do not discuss this without informing yourself first.


Yes, I too remember the days when the top rate was 75% here in America. what dark days those....wait, you mean they were some of our most properous.

GTFO!!!
 
2012-05-07 03:53:07 PM
Actually, he made the statement and left for France when Bush became President the first time around.
 
2012-05-07 03:59:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.

This is a new level for you, Tats.

Pre-persecution!



Well, wait a minute. :)

I hardly agree with anything Tatsuma says, but that one line happens to be fundamental to the way Jews see the world. "And then they came for me... and there was nobody left to speak up for me" (spoken by a non-Jew during the Holocaust). We read this every Yom Ha'Shoah.

Important lesson. :)
 
2012-05-07 04:01:13 PM
Wasnt there another Republican tard who didnt understand estate tax and brackets?

Do these people go to school? Or does Glenn Beck tell them what to think.
 
2012-05-07 04:03:31 PM
I like that the article went on to point out how many of the US deaths in Afghanistan happened under Obama's watch, ignoring the fact that Bush was focused on Iraq, and Obama got out of Iraq and focused on Afghanistan instead. Of course the casualties are going up. Still not as many per year as under Bush overall.
 
2012-05-07 04:09:55 PM
BTW France is very different from the US in many ways that don't get talked about much, like that their best college, which is one of the grandes ecoles, is basically a school for civil servants. If you happen to be smart enough to get into the École Normale Supérieure then you are expected to spend ten years working for the civil service. Now while you're a student and seen as a civil servant in training you get a stipend, so not only isn't there tuition you in effect are paid to be a student. Now think of what this says about the French attitudes towards what smart people should do, education, civil service and other things.
 
2012-05-07 04:13:26 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW France is very different from the US in many ways that don't get talked about much, like that their best college, which is one of the grandes ecoles, is basically a school for civil servants. If you happen to be smart enough to get into the École Normale Supérieure then you are expected to spend ten years working for the civil service. Now while you're a student and seen as a civil servant in training you get a stipend, so not only isn't there tuition you in effect are paid to be a student. Now think of what this says about the French attitudes towards what smart people should do, education, civil service and other things.


Entice the best and the brightest into public service? What sort of communism is that?
 
2012-05-07 04:16:05 PM
Republicans don't realize that America, like all Western democracies, has always been a partially socialist country.


/why should my tax dollars go to fund the military? I never needed them to keep the Russian Army from invading my 1 1/2 acres.
 
2012-05-07 04:16:57 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.

HOW DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND MARGINAL TAX RATES


A Jewish person that doesn't understand taxes? I call shenanigans. He's faking ignorance or jewiness, one of the two.
 
2012-05-07 04:18:02 PM
Last week after 11 months of silence on the nation's longest war ever, Obama flew 14,000 miles round trip to spend about four hours signing a phony agreement on future relations with President Hamid Karzai, rousing U.S. troops after midnight for a photo op visit and giving a brief pre-dawn-there-prime-time-back-home speech about his plans to end the war. Pointedly not one of those 1,556 words was the word "victory." (Click here for that coverage.)

Yeah, how dare he fly there! He should have taken a catamaran.
 
2012-05-07 04:22:11 PM

Make More Hinjews: cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.

This is a new level for you, Tats.

Pre-persecution!


Well, wait a minute. :)

I hardly agree with anything Tatsuma says, but that one line happens to be fundamental to the way Jews see the world. "And then they came for me... and there was nobody left to speak up for me" (spoken by a non-Jew during the Holocaust). We read this every Yom Ha'Shoah.

Important lesson. :)


I get that, and don't wholly disagree with you, but (yeah yeah CSB) I've lived in France for 3 out of the last 6 years, and have never once met a French anti-semite (or frankly met a French person who has any opinion of Jews at all). I have, however, met loads and loads of French people who hate Muslims. In France at least, the succession of "minority groups to target as the cause of all of our problems" would almost certainly be Muslims->Roma->Jews. So that particular statement of Tats' is fine, but his other (that they'd skip over the first two and head straight for the Jews) just smacks of persecution complex.

/I feel so warm and fuzzy having just said any of that.
//Can't wait until the "Bulworth Solution" eventually takes care of all of this.
//Procreative racial deconstruction FTW.
 
2012-05-07 04:23:20 PM
So Obama should give the Republicans something new to be outraged at so they'll forget what they were outraged at five minutes ago?

Sounds like a plan.

And I'm pretty sure that Jerry Lewis is a Conservative Republican because he's an asshole and being a Conserative Republican is an asshole thing to do, especially if you are a Hollywood "actor", or "star", or "auteur", or "has-been". In fact, it's totally forbotten to be a Conservative Republican if you are a comedian. Comedy and conservatism do not mix. Satire, that's something conservatives are good at, but comedy, no. If you have too much hate to be anything but serious about yourself, you might be a Conservative Republican.

So Obama sends the Navy Seals after Jerry Lewis (like the Hollywood Studio did in the Animaniacs parody of Apocalpyse Now!). They kill Jerry Lewis, new outrage, old outrage completely shovelled out of the talking points for a week until there's a new outrage de la semaine.

Did you know that outrage is a French word? It's French for having a king crab crawl up your tuckus and raise a brood of baby king crabs.

Obama ought to be able to keep the outrage over the assassination of an American Conservative on American soil going until Election Day if he constantly reminds people of things that he has done during the Election Campaign. Republicans can't stand it when a supposed liberal or Democrat remind the electorate of what they have done for them. This is not fair play by the Republican Rule book, which says, as Conan O'Brien put it on the Simpsons, "Only I may dance."

Besides, be honest. Aren't you sick and tired of the association of Jerry Lewis with France? He got the croix-d'honneur from an attention-whoring Charles de Gaule in 1954 on the airport runway (possibly at the same airport that is now called Charles de Gaule).

IT'S DONE! IT'S ANCIENT HISTORY. GET OVER IT, DAMMIT!

Don't make us send in the force de frappe to frappée your asses.

There's no need to nuke Jerry Lewis. He isn't really that big. His ego is that big, but you'll find that a man's ego dies with him unless he has the foresight to build pyramids.
 
2012-05-07 04:24:49 PM
Obama is the Bulworth Solution in action.
 
2012-05-07 04:25:47 PM
Shorter article:

"Upset" [though Hollande was projected as the winner since the first round], French words, herp, "witty" reference to "left-foot," derp, French word, implicitly blaming Obama for coalition deaths in Afghanistan, herpaderp.
 
2012-05-07 04:26:33 PM

eraser8: Why do you people allow that attention whore to hijack every farking thread he posts in?


Looking at this thread, I wonder that myself.

Sometimes it's interesting, but more often it's just "OMG JOOZ IN TROUBLE" and rules lawyering that the Sanhedrin would find annoying.
 
2012-05-07 04:31:25 PM

qorkfiend: WhyteRaven74: BTW France is very different from the US in many ways that don't get talked about much, like that their best college, which is one of the grandes ecoles, is basically a school for civil servants. If you happen to be smart enough to get into the École Normale Supérieure then you are expected to spend ten years working for the civil service. Now while you're a student and seen as a civil servant in training you get a stipend, so not only isn't there tuition you in effect are paid to be a student. Now think of what this says about the French attitudes towards what smart people should do, education, civil service and other things.

Entice the best and the brightest into public service? What sort of communism is that?


Not unlike the Military Academies in the US?
 
2012-05-07 04:34:52 PM

Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.


Everyone, please brace yourselves for what I'm about to say: Tatsuma may be full of shiat.

Link

According to the poll, 26 percent of those surveyed said they have considered emigrating due to worsening French anti-Semitism.

Of them, 13 percent are "seriously" considering leaving, according to Washington pollster Stan Greenberg, who led the surveys and focus groups.

The mood among French Jews is like a "severe depression," said Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi, a founder of The Israel Project.

However, CRIF, the main umbrella organization for French Jewry, criticized the survey, saying American Jews simply do not understand the French community.

"U.S. Jews have a complex because they didn't help the Jews of Europe during the Second World War," CRIF spokeswoman Edith Lenczner said.

The poll "doesn't anywhere near correspond with CRIF figures which were conducted with a far larger sample group," she said
.
 
2012-05-07 04:36:27 PM

Tatsuma: According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country. There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.


My earlier post should have been in response to this one...
 
2012-05-07 04:38:48 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Tatsuma: According to the latest polls, 25% of Jews in France want to leave the country. There was an 'Immigration to Israel' fair on the same day it was confirmed that Hollande was gonna win, and more than 5,000 Jews showed up. According to the group organizing this, they never had so many people come on a single day, and so many requests by phone and email to start immigration process to Israel.

My earlier post should have been in response to this one...


I wonder how French Muslims who wanted to immigrate would have been welcomed at the 'Immigration to Israel' fair.
 
2012-05-07 04:39:12 PM
How do you get outraged with "Congratulations... sure sucks to be you trying to fulfill your promises of bread and circuses while not being able to convince the germans to finance it"
 
2012-05-07 04:42:42 PM
How DARE he say he wants to work closely with the freely-elected leader of one of our strongest allies?! We should be shunning France for the next 5 years in retaliation for electing a left-winger. That would teach them.
 
2012-05-07 04:46:04 PM

Cagey B: Tatsuma: /Because, well, Marine is a woman.

A National Front supporter. Shocking.


You want I should teach you how to say "Why do liberals hate strong conservative women?" in French?

Here it is: "Pourquoi les communists ont-ils peur d'une conservatrice dure?"

I had to use communist instead of liberal because in France les libéraux are reactionary free-enterprise-loving conservatives and communists are gung-ho on "liberalism" and old school trade-unionism. Socialist would also work, though, because French Liberals are as stupid as American Conservatives.

The French word "dure" means hard (feminine form) or hard-ass or similar things.

That may explain why liberal men don't like bull dykes, er, strong conservative women much.

Besides that fact that any National Front woman who is described as "dure" would be a foaming-at-the-mouth Fascist that makes Nietzche's Nazi sister and her Nazi husband look like Sainte Bernadette and Saint Martin de Tours.

Thank God the Socialist won. Nothing will change.

(Millions of people are saying that in France today, unless they got it out of their systems earlier in the week. You don't have to be French to understand this, although it helps. Even being one tenth French ought to be sufficient if you have la logique française, which is like no other logic in the world.)

As for the FN, they have a natural constituency in the Poujadiste lower middle classes and peasants of France. They amount to about 20% of the population and probably always will. This is the same 20% of the population in any country of the world that are racist, bigoted, xenophobic, illiberal and whinging constantly about how good it would be to have a strong man in power to crush their enemies, which is to say the minorities, which oddly form the other 80% or 85% of the population.

These are the people who think that their little town is 75% foreigners, when the real number is close to 5%. These are the people who really do believe that black people are the source of all their problems despite the fact that 1) they don't know any black people; 2) they are manifestly problems in and of and for themselves and 3) there's plenty of evidence the white majority is the source of all of its own problems--the black people are too busy causing themselves problems to worry about your sorry arse.

In France you don't have to be black to be a nègre and you don't have to be white to be French, although it is pretty much a perquisite for being a member of the FN.

Oddly enough, France is perhaps the one country in the world where being a Protestant is even more devious than being a Jew, although a lot of peasants don't know the difference and don't care. Hence their national hatred of les Anglo-Saxons, which is pretty much French for Jews except when it isn't.

This is where French logic starts to get mind-bendingly quantum mechanical and relativistic. Unless you can picture a five-dimensional object in three kinds of time, you might want to give it a pass. Just shrug your shoulders. Even the French have no idea what they mean.
 
2012-05-07 04:53:09 PM
Huh. Got to admit, wasn't expecting a TATtention whore derailment in this thread.
 
2012-05-07 04:56:46 PM
President Obama calls and greets the newly elected leader of one of the United State's oldest traditional allies. Something which every POTUS before him since the use of the telephone has become common practice has done. Yet now all of a sudden because it is President Obama who did it, it is now a global socialist conspiracy.
 
2012-05-07 05:02:23 PM

mrshowrules: Tatsuma: I personally congratulate France for voting against their best interests, and choosing to further what will be dire economical and social unrest while their best and brightest natives leave for America and other European countries, and the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

What libertarian/capitalist sanctuary are they going to where they will be better off?


Montreal.
 
2012-05-07 05:07:28 PM
My honest question is this:
With France, Greece and Italy about to drop the austerity programs and really dig themselves into a massive debt hole... What does that mean for the Eurozone?

Honestly, I think the Germans are going to end up with a financial hegemony over the Eurozone.
 
2012-05-07 05:09:31 PM

heavymetal: President Obama calls and greets the newly elected leader of one of the United State's oldest traditional allies. Something which every POTUS before him since the use of the telephone has become common practice has done. Yet now all of a sudden because it is President Obama who did it, it is now a global socialist conspiracy.


And if he didn't it'd just be him disrespecting the Office of the President, as well as showing how weak America has become that we are afraid of the French.
 
2012-05-07 05:10:00 PM

IronOcelot: With France, Greece and Italy about to drop the austerity programs and really dig themselves into a massive debt hole... What does that mean for the Eurozone?


Why do you think spending is automatically going to equal debt? I mean, you have Tats here screaming about how the socialist President of France is going to raise taxes. Taxes equal revenue. Revenue equals less borrowing. Less borrowing equals less debt.

Are you following or is this a little bit over your head?
 
2012-05-07 05:10:33 PM
The French in this thread is killing me. I don't care much about their politics, but my girlfriend (who is French) has been visiting me for the past few weeks. She was following the results all day long yesterday, and was totally thrilled when Hollande was declared the winner.

Basically I'm just typing this so that I can brag about how yrs. truly ended up getting some election victory sex yesterday afternoon. :)

/vive la France!
 
2012-05-07 05:10:40 PM

NeverDrunk23: Huh. Got to admit, wasn't expecting a TATtention whore derailment in this thread.


Interesting that he left when we proved he didn't know WTF he was talking about.
 
2012-05-07 05:16:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: really the equivalent of 'wealthy French people' and extremely similar to asking to a 75% income tax.

HOW DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND MARGINAL TAX RATES


Right wingers understand them perfectly well. They just use them as a tool to gin up outrage among people who don't understand them.
 
2012-05-07 05:17:06 PM

DeltaPunch: The French in this thread is killing me. I don't care much about their politics, but my girlfriend (who is French) has been visiting me for the past few weeks. She was following the results all day long yesterday, and was totally thrilled when Hollande was declared the winner.

Basically I'm just typing this so that I can brag about how yrs. truly ended up getting some election victory sex yesterday afternoon. :)

/vive la France!


Only the French would combine something as boring as politics with something as awesome as sex and think it was normal.

/Only a little bitter
 
2012-05-07 05:19:19 PM
HOW DARE OBAMA WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR ALLIES!!

History's. Greatest. Monster.
 
2012-05-07 05:23:47 PM

rufus-t-firefly: The mood among French Jews is like a "severe depression," said Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi, a founder of The Israel Project.


Ennui....
 
2012-05-07 05:23:51 PM

Tatsuma: Look, 40-50% is perfectly acceptable to me, even if it would have a negative impact on the economy, but 75% is just absolutely and completely ridiculous.


There has never been a single example of a high tax on the wealthy having a negative impact on any economy. The economy goes to hell when the middle-class is taxed. The rich will continue spending money no matter what, given that they don't have all that "losing their homes" and "watching their children starve" stuff to worry about. When the middle class feels the squeeze, they immediately stop spending, and national economies grind to a halt.
 
2012-05-07 05:25:26 PM

brantgoose: SNIP


You are like my favorite poster on politics now.
 
2012-05-07 05:28:23 PM

someonelse: rufus-t-firefly: The mood among French Jews is like a "severe depression," said Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi, a founder of The Israel Project.

Ennui....


Time for le nap?
AND ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!!!
 
2012-05-07 05:37:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: he wants to raise the income tax to 'the rich' by 75%

He wants to raise the top marginal rate on income over 1 million euros TO 75%

Jesus, at least do some research before you look like an idiot.


Bloody fark, i wish we had a candidate who would say that.

/also, look like an idiot?
 
2012-05-07 05:56:44 PM
Well this was not the direction I expected this thread to take when I saw the headline.
 
2012-05-07 05:56:56 PM
President Obama calls and greets the newly elected leader of one of the United State's oldest traditional allies. Something which every POTUS before him since the use of the telephone has become common practice. Yet now all of a sudden because it is President Obama who did it, it is now a global socialist conspiracy.
 
2012-05-07 05:58:30 PM

Tatsuma: adamgreeney: And I will say, while I disagree with you on everything (other than the Whedon love and Fallout love), I really don't doubt that you oppose the fascist parties. That makes sense. I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Well, all choices were bad, but I guess the default Sarkozy was the 'best of the worst'.

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.


You have to be really messed up in the head if you're jewish and you support anti-immigrant politics. I'm glad you don't live in the US.

Please never ever ever come to the US. Sick folks like you need to stay locked up in whatever country caused you to become an immigrant-hating segregationist.
 
2012-05-07 06:10:57 PM

Tatsuma: make me some tea: Surprise, surprise. 25% of the population are alarmists. Funny how that happens.

Surprise surprise, quelqu'un qui ne parle pas Francais, qui ne connait pas de Juifs Francais, qui a tres probablement jamais visite la France, ou meme parler avec un Juif Francais, se croit capable d'evaluer ce que pense cette communite, et d'expliquer les raisons derrieres leurs opinions, et meme les ridiculiser!

Ce n'est pas stupide, c'est FARK.


He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.
 
2012-05-07 06:15:29 PM
 
2012-05-07 06:24:23 PM

rga184: Tatsuma: make me some tea: Surprise, surprise. 25% of the population are alarmists. Funny how that happens.

Surprise surprise, quelqu'un qui ne parle pas Francais, qui ne connait pas de Juifs Francais, qui a tres probablement jamais visite la France, ou meme parler avec un Juif Francais, se croit capable d'evaluer ce que pense cette communite, et d'expliquer les raisons derrieres leurs opinions, et meme les ridiculiser!

Ce n'est pas stupide, c'est FARK.

He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.


Well at least he somewhat knows how to use Google Translate in a fit of anger.
 
2012-05-07 06:35:45 PM

rga184: He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.


Derp.
 
2012-05-07 06:36:50 PM

make me some tea: rga184: He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.

Derp.


Are you saying he's wrong?
 
2012-05-07 06:40:12 PM
Tatsuma, if I recall correctly from HS, France was not exactly European destination #1 for European Jews. Frogs have a...let's say a "healthy disrespect" toward non-Catholics.

// be seeing you in a few weeks?
// Tel Aviv, 5-10 June - perhaps a day in J'lem
 
2012-05-07 06:43:26 PM
Again, every day I see more and more reasons why we should be voting this administration back in office, and continuing to shame the far-right that wants the power back.

It's just a better country that way.
 
2012-05-07 06:44:47 PM

Dr Dreidel: Tatsuma, if I recall correctly from HS, France was not exactly European destination #1 for European Jews. Frogs have a...let's say a "healthy disrespect" toward non-Catholics.

// be seeing you in a few weeks?
// Tel Aviv, 5-10 June - perhaps a day in J'lem


Hey now, you fellas would only last a few seconds in this.
 
2012-05-07 06:52:41 PM

guestguy: "menopausal sorrow"


Band name, etc.
 
2012-05-07 06:56:53 PM

qorkfiend: I'm pretty sure Obama was going to congratulate whoever won.


And yet he says NOTHING about MCA dying.

Yes, that's a real outrage thing
 
2012-05-07 06:57:10 PM

JLEM: Dr Dreidel: Tatsuma, if I recall correctly from HS, France was not exactly European destination #1 for European Jews. Frogs have a...let's say a "healthy disrespect" toward non-Catholics.

// be seeing you in a few weeks?
// Tel Aviv, 5-10 June - perhaps a day in J'lem

Hey now, you fellas would only last a few seconds in this.


LOLZ +100 innernetz OMFGWTFBBQROFLMAOPIMPSLAP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaahahahahah *breath* ahahahahahahaha!

// giggity
// no I am not drunk
 
2012-05-07 07:04:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: make me some tea: Je viens de faire une declaration generale...mange ma bite.

Wah, tu peux utilise Google Translate? Impressionant!

So can you, apparently.


Nah. Tat's is full of mistakes a six year old wouldn't make.
 
2012-05-07 07:20:24 PM

cameroncrazy1984: make me some tea: rga184: He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.

Derp.

Are you saying he's wrong?


No, I'm saying he's pointing out the obvious.
 
2012-05-07 07:24:16 PM

make me some tea: cameroncrazy1984: make me some tea: rga184: He's not ridiculing french jews, he's ridiculing you. We don't need to go to france to do that, we know you well enough.

Derp.

Are you saying he's wrong?

No, I'm saying he's pointing out the obvious.


I don't think you understand the meaning of "derp," then.
 
2012-05-07 07:28:54 PM
Good for the French. They elected the person who will likely do the best for the majority of them.
 
2012-05-07 07:41:24 PM
The best part of Tatsuma's wharrgarbl is this phrase:

Tatsuma: the French just elected the worst man that they could possibly elect.


He just admitted, by virtue of calling the moderately left guy who won the worst, that any of the farther left candidates who would do more for the people he hates and got votes in the election would have been better.

This is why biased rhetoric makes you look stupid.
 
2012-05-07 07:45:08 PM

NeverDrunk23: Huh. Got to admit, wasn't expecting a TATtention whore derailment in this thread.


He's just mad because France elected a guy who won't completely demonize Muslims. So he says things that aren't even internally consistent with his own POV to flame France. It's like a teenager calling his parents "the worst in the world!" because they don't give him everything he wants.
 
2012-05-07 07:49:13 PM

Jensaarai: It's like a teenager calling his parents "the worst in the world!" because they don't give him everything he wants.


And all the while, he has a completely valid reason for calling them that.
 
2012-05-07 07:49:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I don't think you understand the meaning of "derp," then.


well, ok
 
2012-05-07 07:56:13 PM

Jensaarai: This is why biased rhetoric makes you look stupid.


It's also why hyperbole is literally the worst rhetorical device ever.
 
2012-05-07 08:01:02 PM
Hey, what's goin' on in.....oh. Jews as a race of naturally astute business people are an obvious barometer of a nation's economic policies and health. Their overwhelming support for Obama in 2008 gives lie to the Republican rhetoric that he's anti-business. Also, the French are directly responsible for Hitler vis a vis the unfairly punitive Treaty of Versailles.
 
2012-05-07 08:04:07 PM
wonkette.com

/le Best de France
 
2012-05-07 08:26:43 PM

Mavent: Tatsuma: Look, 40-50% is perfectly acceptable to me, even if it would have a negative impact on the economy, but 75% is just absolutely and completely ridiculous.

There has never been a single example of a high tax on the wealthy having a negative impact on any economy. The economy goes to hell when the middle-class is taxed. The rich will continue spending money no matter what, given that they don't have all that "losing their homes" and "watching their children starve" stuff to worry about. When the middle class feels the squeeze, they immediately stop spending, and national economies grind to a halt.


How dare you try to justify such abhorent and heretical notions! Just because Adam Smith explicitly supported higher tax rates for higher income earners, it does not mean that Joe-Blow-Internet can use fact-based data to support that policy-position!!1111!

Come on! It's socialism to forbit the rich from controlling government!!! Don't let the rabbled masses interfere with the dainty desires of the opulent minority!!! And, as we all know, socialism is by its intrinsic nature evil and anti-semitic. Therefore, let pure unfettered markets reign supreme, because that is what the baby Jesus preached when he made a mount with a sermond etched upon it.
 
2012-05-07 08:28:06 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Tatsuma: I have absolutely no love for the FN, and I know that the second they were done with Muslims, they would move on to Jews.

This is a new level for you, Tats.

Pre-persecution!


May as well get it out of the way now. Right, Mein Herr?
 
2012-05-07 08:35:53 PM

Kurland: Good for the French. They elected the person who will likely do the best for the majority of them.


If those people would only work harder, they could aspire to be minorities!
 
2012-05-07 09:05:54 PM
I'm not sure I can take 6 more months of this sh*t. The derp is just so strong.
 
2012-05-07 09:47:54 PM
This thread never had a chance.
 
2012-05-07 10:01:51 PM
Tatsuma,

I find it totally unbelievable that you do not understand margin tax!!! Wow, just Wow!!!

No wonder you are such a right-winger! I would be that to if I was that stupid!
 
2012-05-07 10:03:26 PM
to=too
 
2012-05-07 10:04:45 PM
I bookmarked you as "margin-tats"......
 
2012-05-07 10:34:53 PM
Because Socialism is so much worse than Economic Rape and Warmongering...
 
2012-05-07 10:37:09 PM

Jackson Herring: the exodus of its Jewish community kicks into high gear.

hahahaha what the fark


Nobody expects the French Inquisition!
 
2012-05-07 11:13:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: adamgreeney: cameroncrazy1984: adamgreeney: I just dont get who you would rather have seen elected.

Especially since he basically agrees with everything Likud has been doing.

Exactly. It sounds like he's saying both sides are bad, which is fine, but he's also saying both are the worst options ever. So what could they have done? Even from Tats' view, it seems like France got the best option.

The only thing I can see in this thread where he says it'll be bad for France is that weird-ass statement that 25% of French Jews will be leaving. Which sounds a hell of a lot like what happened in 2004 when all the Dems left. Right? We all went to Canada, didn't we?


We did go to Canada. Turns out that getting drunk, stripping naked and running into churches on Sunday screaming is grounds for deportation, who know. So we all came back and elected Taxbongo to kill off the job creators.
 
2012-05-07 11:20:49 PM
Oh great, another thread hijacked by the great Savior of Iran.

/nevar forget
 
2012-05-08 12:43:12 AM

Tatsuma: Patterson: Ouf...ma conjugaison fait dûr un peut...

Operatif polique. 'Facile de'. 'habiter la France'. 'qu'on aille'. 'fait dûr un peut.'


C'est un desastre, pur et simple.


Tu sais, tu fais beaucoup de fautes toi-même. Si tu veux te vanter de ton français et critiquer la grammaire des autres, achète un Béscherelle et apprends à faire les accents. (Grâce à la loi de Murphy, j'ai probablement fait au moins une faute moi-même, mais ce n'est pas moi qui me présente comme expert en langue et politique française.)

You assume the "best and brightest" will leave because you assume they all share your extreme paranoia of all things "socialist" (not to mention your apparent misunderstanding of how marginal tax rates work.) But many people with high incomes are fine living under what passes for socialism these days (which is more properly described as left-liberalism with a relatively strong commitment to the welfare state.) An educated (and well-fed and healthy) populace and well-developed infrastructure are far more important factors in attracting the kinds of businesses that increase national prosperity than are low tax rates. Many people are fine with paying taxes so long as they see the taxes going to health care, educations, pensions, etc. They get grumpy if they think they're being spent the wrong way. And conservative governments are often the most fiscally irresponsible; they're committed to cutting taxes, and often do so before addressing spending. They then find that even with austerity programs, they can't cut spending as much as they want (especially since they often embrace expensive budget items like the military, bein "tough on crime" and imprisoning lots of people, etc.) conservative governments often generate higher deficits than leftist ones Their spending cuts also throw people out of work, deepening recessions. Parties on the left, in contrast, embrace progressive taxation and argue taxes should be spent in ways that help the disadvantaged, stimulate the economy, improve education and health care, etc. They sometimes mess up too, but empirical evidence doesn't support the idea that right-wing governments are fiscally responsible and left-wing ones disastrous.

Personal incomes over €1M are very rare, so this tax is going to affect very few people. Even most "best and brightest" will never be affected, while the tax will raise revenue that properly invested could create more "best and brightest." Will some very highly-paid people leave? Maybe, though I doubt it will be many.

As for the situation of French Jews, it's hard to see how Hollande would be worse than Sarkozy. The increase in reports of anti-Semitism occurred under Sarkozy, and it's not hard to understand the most likely cause. Policies like the Burka ban, bans on praying in the street, and the stupid halal meat controversy have to be portrayed in neutral terms even of motivated by anti-Muslim sentiment: official secularism, concern about animal welfare or health and safety. But, surprise, religious Jews and kosher food get caught up in the same net. And it's Sarkozy who went after LePen's territory and voters by pushing these issues, not Hollande. Hollande has vowed to fight anti-Semitism and has said nothing that suggest he'll be hostile to Israel.
 
2012-05-08 01:12:45 AM
PSA to the GOP: Sometimes being a leader means "working closely even with people who think differently than you."
 
2012-05-08 01:14:58 AM
So Obama did what every prior President has done whenever a new allied foreign leader is elected.

Andrew Malcolm is a twat.
 
2012-05-08 01:26:23 AM

Fart_Machine: So Obama did what every prior President has done whenever a new allied foreign leader is elected.

Andrew Malcolm is a twat.


The Republicans have absolutely NOTHING.

And Andrew Malcolm verifies it.
 
2012-05-08 02:23:19 AM
Calling the winner is pretty routine. Why complain about routine stuff? You know what else is routine? Pissing. Pretty soon they'll be complaining every time Obama visits the men's room.
 
2012-05-08 02:26:09 AM

FarkedOver: With any luck Americans will learn something from our French comrades.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x220]


You mean vote for that socialist Romney?
 
2012-05-08 07:20:32 AM
To all the jews who wants to leave France for Israel : well then get the fark out. We don't need French people who are ready to drop their allegiance to the drop of a hat. If you think Hollande being president is so unbearable that you wish to leave the country, well then, don't let the door hit you on the ass.

And for Tatsuma : fark you for making an other thread about you.

No, not about the jewish people.

About YOU.
 
2012-05-08 07:40:30 AM
i.imgur.com

vive la socialisme!
 
2012-05-08 08:00:41 AM
What's this now? President Obama actually spent time on the telephone talking to an honest to gawd socialist? And the RW blogosphere took this as a sign that his true evil socialist tendencies they've been warning us about are now an indisputable fact?

So... that means Sarah Palin is now President and Obama has to enroll in mime school while Joe Biden eats an entire tray of chocolate eclairs while wearing a strawberry beret?

I am not a big Sarko fan at all, but the last thing France needs is what Hollande is about to unleash on them.

How about non?

The idea that Hollande has the political ability to enact sweeping socialist policies is laughable.

The austerity measures in play in France now are pretty much set in stone, Hollande's mandate to reverse that will not amount to much beyond a few attempts to make the tax system more progressive and that's when things will get hairy.
 
2012-05-08 08:18:32 AM

Bucky Katt: Calling the winner is pretty routine. Why complain about routine stuff? You know what else is routine? Pissing. Pretty soon they'll be complaining every time Obama visits the men's room.


They pretty much are. President Obama renewed a maritime treaty with Russia regarding sea routes through the Aleutian Islands which his predecessors all did also (including Ronald Reagan); and later I see my right wing friends posting right wing blogs accusing President Obama ceding our sovereignty to Russia.

President Obama also signed an updated version of the National Preparedness Act, first created in response to pre WWII tensions in Europe, and every president since has also. Well afterwards my right wing friends start posting blogs claiming it is his first step in enslaving the populace.

They are probably already writing "fabricating" an article at the World Nut Daily stating that President Obama's turds are errily in the shape of the Muslim Crescent Moon symbol.
 
2012-05-08 08:49:29 AM

heavymetal: Bucky Katt: Calling the winner is pretty routine. Why complain about routine stuff? You know what else is routine? Pissing. Pretty soon they'll be complaining every time Obama visits the men's room.

They pretty much are. President Obama renewed a maritime treaty with Russia regarding sea routes through the Aleutian Islands which his predecessors all did also (including Ronald Reagan); and later I see my right wing friends posting right wing blogs accusing President Obama ceding our sovereignty to Russia.

President Obama also signed an updated version of the National Preparedness Act, first created in response to pre WWII tensions in Europe, and every president since has also. Well afterwards my right wing friends start posting blogs claiming it is his first step in enslaving the populace.

They are probably already writing "fabricating" an article at the World Nut Daily stating that President Obama's turds are errily in the shape of the Muslim Crescent Moon symbol.


This. And the biggest problem with this is when Republicans are constantly crying wolf, they are desensitizing both the press and the voting public to the things Obama should be criticized about.

What the Republican party should be doing is presenting feasible ideas on how they can make things better, rather than continuously try to portray Obama as the worst president in history based on outlandish crybaby bullshiat like this. They won't, because they have an enraged, irrational base that pretty much wants to see the dude swinging from a tree, but it's just what they should do.

For example, I think Obama would have a hard time explaining why the Patriot Act and the suspension of Habeas Corpus are still standing when he was adamant that the intel for his greatest success in foreign policy - the OBL kill - was obtained without any of these things. I think this is something that a party that was genuinely pro "small government" could easily dig into.
 
2012-05-08 09:16:49 AM

Zerochance: heavymetal: Bucky Katt: Calling the winner is pretty routine. Why complain about routine stuff? You know what else is routine? Pissing. Pretty soon they'll be complaining every time Obama visits the men's room.

They pretty much are. President Obama renewed a maritime treaty with Russia regarding sea routes through the Aleutian Islands which his predecessors all did also (including Ronald Reagan); and later I see my right wing friends posting right wing blogs accusing President Obama ceding our sovereignty to Russia.

President Obama also signed an updated version of the National Preparedness Act, first created in response to pre WWII tensions in Europe, and every president since has also. Well afterwards my right wing friends start posting blogs claiming it is his first step in enslaving the populace.

They are probably already writing "fabricating" an article at the World Nut Daily stating that President Obama's turds are errily in the shape of the Muslim Crescent Moon symbol.

This. And the biggest problem with this is when Republicans are constantly crying wolf, they are desensitizing both the press and the voting public to the things Obama should be criticized about.

What the Republican party should be doing is presenting feasible ideas on how they can make things better, rather than continuously try to portray Obama as the worst president in history based on outlandish crybaby bullshiat like this. They won't, because they have an enraged, irrational base that pretty much wants to see the dude swinging from a tree, but it's just what they should do.

For example, I think Obama would have a hard time explaining why the Patriot Act and the suspension of Habeas Corpus are still standing when he was adamant that the intel for his greatest success in foreign policy - the OBL kill - was obtained without any of these things. I think this is something that a party that was genuinely pro "small government" could easily dig into.


Probably because despite it being a legitimate criticism, they agree with the policy and want it in place when "their team" takes power. But yes, they make it hard to actually focus on real criticisms with their paranoid derp.
 
2012-05-08 01:56:23 PM

Pharque-it: Tatsuma,

I find it totally unbelievable that you do not understand margin tax!!! Wow, just Wow!!!

No wonder you are such a right-winger! I would be that to if I was that stupid!


This, I thought you guys were supposed to be good with money? Ah well, another racial stereotype debunked.

*themoreyouknow* pic
 
2012-05-08 04:37:13 PM

angrycrank: Tatsuma: Patterson: Ouf...ma conjugaison fait dûr un peut...

Operatif polique. 'Facile de'. 'habiter la France'. 'qu'on aille'. 'fait dûr un peut.'


C'est un desastre, pur et simple.

Tu sais, tu fais beaucoup de fautes toi-même. Si tu veux te vanter de ton français et critiquer la grammaire des autres, achète un Béscherelle et apprends à faire les accents. (Grâce à la loi de Murphy, j'ai probablement fait au moins une faute moi-même, mais ce n'est pas moi qui me présente comme expert en langue et politique française.)


Notice he never wrote more than a sentence or two. He also used phrases and words that are never used in the context he was going for. I'm no expert, but I knew he was a bullshiat french-speaker. Never answered me back.

I was just going for the "correct the guy who always pedantically corrects people" laugh.
 
2012-05-08 05:53:44 PM
Gas is down to $3.85 today. Even the Republican talking points hate Republicans.
 
2012-05-08 06:03:24 PM

Patterson: Notice he never wrote more than a sentence or two. He also used phrases and words that are never used in the context he was going for. I'm no expert, but I knew he was a bullshiat french-speaker. Never answered me back.


Non mais franchement, tu utilises des termes comme 'operatifs politique' et TOI tu m'accuses de ne pas savoir parler Francais?

Avec ta grammaire absolument puerile, la grace linguistique d'un orangoutan et tes expressions quebecoise a la con, tu crois que tu peux critiquer qui que ce soit?

Un petit Montrealais puerile qui croit que parce qu'il parle un creole legerement similaire a la langue Francaise, il comprend ce qui ce passe en France? Des connards comme toi, il y en a plein le Plateau, et putain je ne peux absolument pas vous tolerez.

Vous vous croyez tous superieurs aux Americains, mais tout ce que vous consommez EST American, mais soit traduit dans un language qui fait honte a la langue Francaise, soit un photocopie d'une photocopie. Une vie culture absolutement absente, une vie culinaire absolument affreuse, une scene musicale absolutement merdique a moins qu'elle soit en Anglais (et la, ho la la, il faut ignorer ces groupes la completement! Ce sont des salopards d'anglos, et pas des vrais quebecois!)

Il ne faut pas oublier que, meme si les Francais sont xenophobe, ils n'ont absolument rien pour faire competition avec le racisme et degout des quebecois pour les minorites qui ont la malchance d'habiter cette province maudite.

Alors, un accomodement raisonable? Tu retournes regarder ton hockey, boire ta Molson et manger ta poutine, et j'arrete de te traiter comme le petite con arrogant que tu es.
 
2012-05-08 06:08:37 PM
soi traduit, soi une photocopie

Il est 1:00am et j'ai deja bu plus d'une bouteille de vine.
 
2012-05-08 06:12:36 PM

Tatsuma: Il est 1:00am et j'ai deja bu plus d'une bouteille de vine.


Fine, two bottles, shut the fark up
 
2012-05-08 06:51:47 PM

padraig: To all the jews who wants to leave France for Israel : well then get the fark out. We don't need French people who are ready to drop their allegiance to the drop of a hat. If you think Hollande being president is so unbearable that you wish to leave the country, well then, don't let the door hit you on the ass.


Ah ouais, je ne sais pas du tout pourquoi un Juif voudrais quittez la France, quand des connards comme toi etais deja en train de faire des blagues pendant que le corps des martiyrs de Toulouse n'etais meme pas encore au cimetiere.

angrycrank: Tu sais, tu fais beaucoup de fautes toi-même. Si tu veux te vanter de ton français et critiquer la grammaire des autres, achète un Béscherelle et apprends à faire les accents.


Je fais des fautes, oui (et tu ne peux pas blamer le manque d'accents sur moi, mon clavier est anglophone et francophobe), mais ce que j'ecris EST en francais

'qu'on aille'?! 'operatifs politiques'?!

Il n'avait aucune raison de pretendre etre capable de parler en Francais.

Dr Dreidel: // be seeing you in a few weeks?
// Tel Aviv, 5-10 June - perhaps a day in J'lem


Absolutely!

Write to my email address, and we'll coordinate something

Hopefully our dates will match (and good for you, I am about 5 minutes from Yaffo, so we can go grab a drink there or something)
 
2012-05-09 03:29:30 AM
Wow, Tatsuma is even more hateful and xenophobic in French than in English. I didn't even know it was possible.
 
2012-05-09 04:39:42 AM
Oooh look at me, I'm tatsuma! I speak grade school level french! look at me!
 
2012-05-09 06:40:08 AM

padraig: Wow, Tatsuma is even more hateful and xenophobic in French than in English. I didn't even know it was possible.


As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.
 
2012-05-09 07:14:41 AM

thamike: As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.


How about we make that a tinychat thing on TFD?

I get on there and speak in French, and we watch you literally eat my hat.
 
2012-05-09 07:23:07 AM

Tatsuma: thamike: As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.

How about we make that a tinychat thing on TFD?

I get on there and speak in French, and we watch you literally eat my hat.


Guess you never actually put me on ignore, after all. Funny the Google Translate comment got to you.
 
2012-05-09 07:35:19 AM

thamike: Guess you never actually put me on ignore, after all. Funny the Google Translate comment got to you.


No, I have, but I decided to see what you had written so late in the game

I go on tinychat, you go as well, we invite TFD and if I can speak fluent French without an accent, you will literally eat a hat over the webcam, which will be recorded for all to see.

How about it? Are you gonna chicken out or man up?

BWACK BWACK.
 
2012-05-09 09:23:04 AM

thamike: padraig: Wow, Tatsuma is even more hateful and xenophobic in French than in English. I didn't even know it was possible.

As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.


No no no no.

Let's be honest here, his French is actually quite good, and does not sound like Google Translate to my French ears. There are quite a few mistakes here and there, but apart from that, this is something he does not have to blush about.

And I will not let his name-calling and insults make me agree with you that he's a moron. He's obviously not. I disagree a lot with him, but saying that is not a comment on his intelligence.
 
2012-05-09 09:29:51 AM

Tatsuma: padraig: To all the jews who wants to leave France for Israel : well then get the fark out. We don't need French people who are ready to drop their allegiance to the drop of a hat. If you think Hollande being president is so unbearable that you wish to leave the country, well then, don't let the door hit you on the ass.

Ah ouais, je ne sais pas du tout pourquoi un Juif voudrais quittez la France, quand des connards comme toi etais deja en train de faire des blagues pendant que le corps des martiyrs de Toulouse n'etais meme pas encore au cimetiere.

angrycrank: Tu sais, tu fais beaucoup de fautes toi-même. Si tu veux te vanter de ton français et critiquer la grammaire des autres, achète un Béscherelle et apprends à faire les accents.

Je fais des fautes, oui (et tu ne peux pas blamer le manque d'accents sur moi, mon clavier est anglophone et francophobe), mais ce que j'ecris EST en francais

'qu'on aille'?! 'operatifs politiques'?!

Il n'avait aucune raison de pretendre etre capable de parler en Francais.

Dr Dreidel: // be seeing you in a few weeks?
// Tel Aviv, 5-10 June - perhaps a day in J'lem

Absolutely!

Write to my email address, and we'll coordinate something

Hopefully our dates will match (and good for you, I am about 5 minutes from Yaffo, so we can go grab a drink there or something)


Oh brother. Someone whose French is full of egregious errors and anglicisms and who doesn't even know that you don't need a special keyboard to make accents launches a "funny" bigoted attack on the language and culture of Québec. Cute.

I note with interest your complete failure to engage in any substantive discussion or respond to anyone with anything other than ad hominem attacks. You've demonstrated that you don't have a clue how marginal tax rates work, which rather diminishes the credibility of your allegedly informed prediction respecting the disastrous nature of Hollande's election. And you haven't at all addressed how the politique de laïcité that was used by Sarkozy as dog-whistle to pick up racist, anti-Muslim LePen supporters has been a factor in the escalating anti-Semitism that is contributing to the emigration desires of many French Jews. Incidentally, the "connards" of the Plateau, at least the well-informed ones, know very well what's going on in France particularly in this respect because the Parti Québéquois is cheerfully plagiarising French anti-Muslim "secularist" policy.

So I'm the idiot for allowing myself to be sucked in by your trollish threadjack.
 
2012-05-09 10:17:45 AM

padraig: There are quite a few mistakes here and there


Did I make that many mistakes? If we remove accents, I don't believe I made more than 5-6 errors, most of them my drunken brain somehow writing English versions of words (absolutement, language), but audibly it would not have made a different (its not like I would have pronounced it absolutement, or lanage would sound differently.

I'd say that this is really great, considering the last time I wrote as much in French (versus talking) is probably 10 years ago.

Heck, I probably fare better than your average Frenchman or french-canadian.

As for the name-calling, it goes both ways, but I kind of like you anyway
 
2012-05-09 10:21:41 AM
Wait no shut up say its google translate I want to see him eat a hat


Or are you too chicken, thamike?

BWACK BWACK

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-09 10:59:25 AM

Tatsuma: padraig: There are quite a few mistakes here and there

Did I make that many mistakes? If we remove accents, I don't believe I made more than 5-6 errors, most of them my drunken brain somehow writing English versions of words (absolutement, language), but audibly it would not have made a different (its not like I would have pronounced it absolutement, or lanage would sound differently.

I'd say that this is really great, considering the last time I wrote as much in French (versus talking) is probably 10 years ago.

Heck, I probably fare better than your average Frenchman or french-canadian.

As for the name-calling, it goes both ways, but I kind of like you anyway


***sigh***
If you insist (I'll ignore the accents) :

Ah ouais, je ne sais pas du tout pourquoi un Juif voudrais quittez la France, quand des connards comme toi etais deja en train de faire des blagues pendant que le corps des martiyrs de Toulouse n'etais meme pas encore au cimetiere.
It's "quitter", not "quittez".
"Martyrs", not "martiyrs", but I'll concede this one looks more like a typo
Also, there are several bodies, not just one, so "les corps des martyrs n'étaient même pas encore encore au cimetierre"

...et tu ne peux pas blamer le manque d'accents sur moi...
This is not proper French syntax, it's an English one. You would say : "tu ne peux pas me blamer pour le manque d'accents".

... Une vie culture absolutement absente...
"Une vie cultureLLE ABSOLUMENT absente"
The "participe présent" ABSOLUMENT comes from the adjective ABSOLU. The T is for the English ABSOLUTE

...une scene musicale absolutement merdique a moins qu'elle soit en Anglais...
...à moins qu'elle NE soit en anglais.
Okay, I'll concede that not putting the NE is one of the shortcuts of the English language, but this is a common mistake by English-speaking people forget that adjectives of nationality, in French, does not start with an uppercase letter.

... ils n'ont absolument rien pour faire competition...
I don't even know how to fix that. That really does not parse as French syntax.

...et j'arrete de te traiter comme le petite con arrogant que tu es
PETIT con.
Confusing feminine and masculine forms of the verb is a very common mistake for anglos.

So, I count 9-10.
As I said, your French is pretty good, but it's quite obvious you are not a native speaker. Some of the mistakes you make are pretty common for English speaking people.

And I found your attack on Quebecer French, and on Quebec in general, in pretty bad taste. French has several flavors all over the world, even in Europe (Belgian French is not the same as French French).
 
2012-05-09 12:17:57 PM

padraig: It's "quitter", not "quittez".


fair enough, and martyrs was indeed a typo

padraig: Also, there are several bodies, not just one, so "les corps des martyrs n'étaient même pas encore encore au cimetierre"


again, fair enough

padraig: This is not proper French syntax, it's an English one. You would say : "tu ne peux pas me blamer pour le manque d'accents".


fair enough

padraig: "Une vie cultureLLE ABSOLUMENT absente"


this is the drunken reversal of English thing I was talking about. culture instead of culturelle (I know that) and absolutement again, drunken typing rather than me being wrong

padraig: Okay, I'll concede that not putting the NE is one of the shortcuts of the English language, but this is a common mistake by English-speaking people forget that adjectives of nationality, in French, does not start with an uppercase letter.


I merely forgot the ne, I know it should be there, as for the rest fair enough

padraig: I don't even know how to fix that. That really does not parse as French syntax.


yeah that was two sentences reduced as one, while drinking.

padraig: PETIT con.


that was an actual typo

padraig: So, I count 9-10.


That go back down to 5-6 once you remove the typos, and would probably go down to 2-3 if you remove wine from the equation altogether

I will be the first to admit that my written French is much worse than my spoken French. As I said earlier, I have written more French in this thread than I possibly have during the last 10 years altogether.

If you were to hear me speak, however, you'd swear I am fresh out "du 16eme"
 
2012-05-09 08:18:08 PM
I rest my case. And it's "Bok bok."

/I didn't say you don't speak French, my renewed pal. I said that retarded screed you put down here was probably a product of Translate. I speak some French. I speak a little of other languages too. High school level, really. I use Translate sometimes to try to post a joke or make a reference pertinent to the thread at hand. One thing I don't do is use it for Serious Internet Business, and then lash out at anybody who calls me out on it.

This could have been fun, but you are terrible at working with others for the greater humor.
 
2012-05-09 08:40:34 PM
Tatsuma isn't really speaking french, he's speaking english with french words.

Either apparently knows a very limited amount of french that he supplements with digital dictionaries or translation software. It's nothing impressive. Clearly he hasn't taken French since high school or perhaps college.
 
2012-05-10 03:25:31 AM

thamike: I rest my case. And it's "Bok bok."

/I didn't say you don't speak French, my renewed pal. .


thamike: As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.


Wait, what's that?

thamike: As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.


but I thought you said

thamike: I rest my case. And it's "Bok bok."

/I didn't say you don't speak French, my renewed pal. .


...

thamike:As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.

Oh my.

A coward AND a liar?

You speak some French from High School, while I speak perfectly fluently without an accent, and you still refuse to accept that?

And you made a pretend victory dance and exited the thread?

How sad and pathetic are you.
 
2012-05-10 06:19:42 AM
A coward AND a liar! Huzzah!

It's good to have you back, pal. And yes, I refuse to accept that. You speak as much French as my butt. But before having a stroke, remember where you are.
 
2012-05-10 07:28:16 AM
Oh don't worry after this thread, I am not going to bother reading your posts again

Because, clearly, why would I bother with someone who lies about what he says when they can clearly be read by anyone, and backs out of his own dares when he realizes that, woops, things mihgt not go his way

You are utterly pathetic. You really think I'll waste more of my time?

Have fun lying to yourself to protect your own delusions.
 
2012-05-10 12:21:19 PM

Tatsuma: thamike: As I said, Google Translate is a wonderful thing. If that moron can speak French, I'll eat his hat. If he ever spoke that formally (and anachronistically) to a Frenchman (even a Jewish one) they'd think there was a malfunctioning android in the room.

How about we make that a tinychat thing on TFD?

I get on there and speak in French, and we watch you literally eat my hat.


(facepalm.jpg)
 
2012-05-10 01:21:00 PM

Speaker2Animals: (facepalm.jpg)


Why, it is a proper use of literally. Because that was the point of the dare, he would eat my hat. Well, a hat anyway.
 
2012-05-10 06:15:29 PM

Tatsuma: Oh don't worry after this thread, I am not going to bother reading your posts again

Because, clearly, why would I bother with someone who lies about what he says when they can clearly be read by anyone, and backs out of his own dares when he realizes that, woops, things mihgt not go his way

You are utterly pathetic. You really think I'll waste more of my time?

Have fun lying to yourself to protect your own delusions.


Thanks, man! Glad we could chat.
 
2012-05-10 06:20:37 PM
I am sorry, where are my manners?

Je suis bien heureux que vous et moi pourrions avoir cette fois de communiquer via la technologie étonnante à notre disposition.
 
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