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(Denver Post)   Lawyer spends 11 years proving inmate's innocence. He offers to pay for her gender-reassignment surgery. "It was a very sweet gesture on his part," she said. "But he really needs to focus on taking care of himself first"   (denverpost.com ) divider line
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2012-05-06 04:26:19 PM  
That was a nice story
 
2012-05-06 08:07:33 PM  

reverendstrife: That was a nice story


Indeed.

It is amazing how nice this guy is to others after being in a hellhole for a crime he did not commit for many years.
 
2012-05-06 08:27:56 PM  
Huzzah!
 
2012-05-06 08:28:43 PM  
She? Thats a dude.
 
2012-05-06 08:29:05 PM  

cman: reverendstrife: That was a nice story

Indeed.

It is amazing how nice this guy is to others after being in a hellhole for a crime he did not commit for many years.


This.

Also,

"It was a very sweet gesture on his part," Joffe said. "But he really needs to focus on taking care of himself first. ... Let Mr. Dewey get himself a Harley and tour America to his heart's content first."

Goddamn they're both awesome.

I'm also surprised in a good way that it wasn't BS we're-sure-we-have-our-suspect-so-let's-fabricate-or-ignore-evidence wrongful conviction but rudimentary DNA technology... of course, how the court was convinced that was enough in the first place, another story.

This is also surprising in a good way, which is sad:

The case that drove Joffe for so long was unusual because rudimentary DNA evidence had helped convict Dewey in 1996 and now newer and much more accurate DNA testing eliminated him as the perpetrator and matched up to someone who previously had not been identified as a suspect.

The case would also become a landmark because it eventually pulled prosecutors, defense attorneys and law officers into a team all working on the same goal
- to free Dewey and identify the real murderer.


You'd hope the goal would always be to get the right person, but c'est la vie.

/nice link, subby
 
2012-05-06 08:29:23 PM  
The pronoun revelation of the article compared to the ambiguity of the headline does not change the fact that's this is a nice story. Good job Mr. Ma'am.
 
2012-05-06 08:30:08 PM  
I am certain Mr. Dewey is no longer a meth addict and once let loose on society that he will have a good attitude and remain peaceful and law abiding. I guess justice was done. However may we ask that question of his next victum?

From the comments
 
2012-05-06 08:30:17 PM  
i cant imagine spending time in jail for something I didn't do, all the time protesting that "im innocent" like everyone else, but you REALLY are. But nobody listens. Except this one lady. Hats off to her for keeping up the good fight. Now...watch them try to fark him a second time by not giving him any cash, or charging him for his wrongful incarceration.
 
2012-05-06 08:30:20 PM  

orclover: She? Thats a dude.


And always will be.
 
2012-05-06 08:31:22 PM  
Good stuff. Thanks subby.
 
2012-05-06 08:31:38 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: You'd hope the goal would always be to get the right person, but c'est la vie.


Well, it seems like it *was*, actually, it's just that in this case, previous DNA technology screwed it up. =(
 
2012-05-06 08:31:49 PM  
His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.
 
2012-05-06 08:33:30 PM  
What an amazing link. I needed it.

Thank you Subby, and thanks to the woman and her lawyer for being wonderful.
 
2012-05-06 08:34:40 PM  
www.jennqpublic.com
 
2012-05-06 08:35:09 PM  
No one made mention of the fact that the lawyer is a crazy cat lady?

For shame, Fark. For shame.
 
2012-05-06 08:35:34 PM  
"But he really needs to focus on taking care of himself first"

Preaching to the choir there, sister.
 
2012-05-06 08:36:21 PM  

bluehubcap: No one made mention of the fact that the lawyer is a crazy cat lady?

For shame, Fark. For shame.


bigger penis to fry here.

i mean fish.

penis.
 
2012-05-06 08:40:57 PM  

Biness: bluehubcap: No one made mention of the fact that the lawyer is a crazy cat lady?

For shame, Fark. For shame.

bigger penis to fry here.

i mean fish.

penis.


pro-boner
 
2012-05-06 08:42:00 PM  
Officially, Dewey officially doesn't owe Joffe.

So, it's official then?
 
2012-05-06 08:42:01 PM  

Felgraf: StreetlightInTheGhetto: You'd hope the goal would always be to get the right person, but c'est la vie.

Well, it seems like it *was*, actually, it's just that in this case, previous DNA technology screwed it up. =(


In this case, it was. In many other wrongful convictions, the innocent person has to fight tooth-and-effing-nail against people who are really sure they're just doth protesting too much.
 
2012-05-06 08:42:37 PM  
Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.
 
2012-05-06 08:42:51 PM  

HotWingAgenda: His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.


Transgender people typically use the pronouns of their identified gender, regardless of whether any surgery has been (or will be) performed. So in this case, "her" is correct.
 
2012-05-06 08:45:23 PM  

patternmatch: HotWingAgenda: His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.

Transgender people typically use the pronouns of their identified gender, regardless of whether any surgery has been (or will be) performed. So in this case, "her" is correct.


So if I'm a single woman, and I decide I want to have sex, get pregnant, and have a baby, you have to refer to me as a mother as soon as I decide to have sex without a contraception? Just because I have decided to, in the future, undergo the process to become a mother?
 
2012-05-06 08:46:39 PM  
His gender reassignment surgery, subby.
 
2012-05-06 08:46:59 PM  

xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.


I don't know about PC, but those of us with empathy generally don't have a problem with it.

Why do you?
 
2012-05-06 08:47:33 PM  

Caelistis: And always will be.


Yeah. Dude does good work though.
 
2012-05-06 08:48:41 PM  

xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"?


Uh oh you've lit the Thaeetus (sp?) signal. Prepare for paragraph upon paragraph of nonsense
 
2012-05-06 08:49:23 PM  

xebeche_tzu: the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"?


you have must have some serious calluses on your knuckles from dragging them on the ground all the time.
 
2012-05-06 08:49:58 PM  
Admins, please clarify headline ("He offers to pay for her" --> "Inmate offers to pay for lawyer's", etc.) -- it's a nice story either way, but the headline should make clear whether the article is about a really dedicated attorney or a really grateful client.
 
2012-05-06 08:50:56 PM  
... so basically, what Staffist said.
 
2012-05-06 08:51:24 PM  

SweetSilverBlues: xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.

I don't know about PC, but those of us with empathy generally don't have a problem with it.

Why do you?


Anything that threatens the binary world view of certain people is bad, and must be attacked at every possible opportunity.
 
2012-05-06 08:51:40 PM  

BigJake: Uh oh you've lit the Thaeetus (sp?) signal. Prepare for paragraph upon paragraph of nonsense


WhyteRaven can be subbed into this sentence
 
2012-05-06 08:51:43 PM  

orclover: She? Thats a dude.


the gender change was from man to, that's a man baby.
 
2012-05-06 08:51:53 PM  

xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.


Really? Disagreable (to you) gender indentification scares you? No wonder social conservatives act so wierd. It's fear.

/Oh, and it's not about being PC in this case. It's politeness. We all know what gender she was born.
 
2012-05-06 08:53:31 PM  

patternmatch: HotWingAgenda: His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.

Transgender people typically use the pronouns of their identified gender, regardless of whether any surgery has been (or will be) performed. So in this case, "her" is correct.


"She" has a schlong. Having a schlong defines her as male. Unless "she" wants to be pancakes. Then "she" can be "pancakes." With a side of schlong.
 
2012-05-06 08:54:16 PM  

xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.


I know you're laying it extra thick on purpose, but I never understood the willful confusion on this matter. If your legal name was Michael, but you preferred being called "Doc", I'd refer to you both in person and in conversation as the latter. If you have a penis, but want to be referred to as a woman, same thing. Done. No hysteria, teeth-gnashing, or further contemplation of any kind. Pretty easy, really.
 
2012-05-06 08:54:26 PM  
I do love me a good gender panic.
 
2012-05-06 08:54:59 PM  

DashFieldpaint: Having a schlong defines her as male.


And another one is with callused knuckles.
 
2012-05-06 08:55:14 PM  
Dude looks like a lawyer.
 
2012-05-06 08:56:07 PM  
I do enjoy how people love to hold on to wrong opinions far beyond their expiration date. They see the way society is headed, can't accept that they are wrong, so they get even more loud and more insulting much like a poorly tempered child, because damn it, progress is for queers!

Nice article too.
 
2012-05-06 08:57:24 PM  
I was born a woman. I look like a woman. I've never had any surgery to make myself look more like a woman. I've never had a chromosome test, but I'm pretty damned sure that right down to my DNA, I'm a woman.

And if this lawyer is a woman, well, more power to her. Even if her chromosomes say something different. Even if she does look uncannily like Margo Martindale. It's not like she's declared herself a unicorn, a lampshade, or a demon goddess from Valhalla.

Haters gonna hate, but she's not hurting anyone, and she seems like a better human being than most of the trolls judging her on Fark.
 
2012-05-06 08:57:41 PM  

you are a puppet: I am certain Mr. Dewey is no longer a meth addict and once let loose on society that he will have a good attitude and remain peaceful and law abiding. I guess justice was done. However may we ask that question of his next victum?

From the comments


Wouldn't he have had to have a first victim to have a next victim? I mean, I may cook for a living, but I'm pretty sure I have a fairly good handle on basic English. I even know what "exonerated" and "innocent" mean.

I hope someone called that farktard out on that comment. What a dolt.
 
2012-05-06 08:57:55 PM  

Killer Cars: I never understood the willful confusion on this matter.


Same, but for entirely different reasons
 
2012-05-06 09:00:38 PM  

dsriggs: His gender reassignment surgery, subby.


Calm down Mrs. Riggs.
 
2012-05-06 09:02:48 PM  

HotWingAgenda: His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.


If someone identifies as a female, in spite of having male reproductive organs, it's proper to refer to them in the feminine.

It's not about the bits you're born with, it's about how you see yourself within your own mind, which is why transgenders have such a hard time.
 
2012-05-06 09:03:41 PM  

Repo Man: SweetSilverBlues: xebeche_tzu: Let me get this straight. If I have a penis, and I pronounce that I am female, the PC thing to do is begin referring to me as "she" and "her"? No wonder Jethro Bodine goes to so may Fox News Tea Party rallies. You liberals are scary sometimes.

I don't know about PC, but those of us with empathy generally don't have a problem with it.

Why do you?

Anything that threatens the binary world view of certain people is bad, and must be attacked at every possible opportunity.


Oh.

How sad.

Yeah yeah, welcome to Fark.

It's still sad.
 
2012-05-06 09:04:18 PM  

BigJake: Same, but for entirely different reasons


An entirely different kind of not understanding, altogether?
 
2012-05-06 09:04:55 PM  
I'm pretty sure if a man starts identifying herself as a woman, and intends to go through with the surgery, it's just common courtesy to refer to them as 'her.'
 
2012-05-06 09:05:07 PM  

HotWingAgenda: patternmatch: HotWingAgenda: His gender reassignment, or her gender reassignment? It would be "her" gender reassignment if the dude became a woman, and then wanted to go back.

Transgender people typically use the pronouns of their identified gender, regardless of whether any surgery has been (or will be) performed. So in this case, "her" is correct.

So if I'm a single woman, and I decide I want to have sex, get pregnant, and have a baby, you have to refer to me as a mother as soon as I decide to have sex without a contraception? Just because I have decided to, in the future, undergo the process to become a mother?


That is a false equvalency, because pregnancy is not a state of identity. Coming out as trans is in fact part of the "process" of gender transition, so once that has happened, it's considered respectful to use the pronouns of the person's identified gender. Further, in many states, surgery is no longer a requirement for gender marker change on legal documents, so the "process" may not actually be what you think it is.

A closer analogy is if your friend Bob decided he wanted to change his name to Fred. He may start introducing himself as Fred to people before actually going to the courthouse to change his legal name. Would you insist on calling him Bob until he shows you a note from a judge? Or would you just call him Fred, because he gets to decide what his own name is?
 
2012-05-06 09:05:39 PM  

katefolsom: It's not like she's declared herself a unicorn, a lampshade, or a demon goddess from Valhalla.


It is in that they all contain equal measures of truth
 
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