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(The New York Times)   NYT debuts their new interactive electoral map, complete with paths to victory for both candidates. Unfortunately for Mitt Romney, most of his paths are akin to Indiana Jones on the rope bridge in "Temple of Doom"   (elections.nytimes.com) divider line 194
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2012-05-06 04:12:34 PM
And the ropes on Rmoney's bridge are coated with a nice sheen of santorum.
 
2012-05-06 04:15:15 PM
The only way Romney's gonna win is if Obama throws the election.
 
2012-05-06 04:18:05 PM
Oh, so if Romney wins the rust belt AND the populated East Coast, he'll get to be President. Well, why don't we order the decorations now? It's not like President Obama won those areas in big margins before.
 
2012-05-06 04:40:01 PM
*Temple of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
 
2012-05-06 04:40:28 PM
Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.
 
2012-05-06 04:45:12 PM

Mrtraveler01: Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.


"The Mormons must be treated as enemies," Boggs declared on Oct. 27, 1838, "and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace; their outrages are beyond all description."

Missouri Governor Lilburn Boggs
 
2012-05-06 04:48:50 PM
My fellow Floridians: Let's not fark this one up, mmkay?
 
2012-05-06 04:50:03 PM
Iowa as a toss-up is really laughable. There hasn't been a poll there since February, which is why it's even on the brink of toss-up status.
 
2012-05-06 04:50:07 PM
It is odd that a major newspaper would predict that this election will be a very close contest.

/And by "odd" I mean "boolsheet."
//It's a good thing that Mitt is the champion of the working class, otherwise he could lose by a landslide.
 
2012-05-06 04:50:18 PM

LarryDan43: Mrtraveler01: Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.

"The Mormons must be treated as enemies," Boggs declared on Oct. 27, 1838, "and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace; their outrages are beyond all description."

Missouri Governor Lilburn Boggs


The fact we had laws that made it legal to shoot Mormons until the 70's really depresses me about this state.
 
2012-05-06 04:51:22 PM
Wow, that map actually didn't suck.

Kudos to the NYT for that.

So, 2012's swing states are the usual suspects with FLA and PA being the top two prizes one again in terms of game winning Electoral Votes with 29 and 20 EVs respectively.

Still find it weird that AZ is considered in play here.
 
2012-05-06 04:51:44 PM
I have a strange feeling that the map will look almost identical to 2008, with the exception of Indiana, which Romney will win.
 
2012-05-06 04:52:22 PM

LarryDan43: Mrtraveler01: Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.

"The Mormons must be treated as enemies," Boggs declared on Oct. 27, 1838, "and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace; their outrages are beyond all description."

Missouri Governor Lilburn Boggs


Bad idea. Mormon bashing will backfire spectacularly
 
2012-05-06 04:55:03 PM
closer than I thought.

For Romney to be tied with 0bama in florida, ohio, and PA is good from Romney.
 
2012-05-06 04:55:03 PM
I don't want Mitt to lose because he's Mormon. I want him to lose because he is a human wind sock who can't take a moral or ideological stand. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism and everything to do with his lack of real character.
 
2012-05-06 04:55:10 PM

Mrtraveler01: Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.


He came close enough that they had a recount. Granted, it would not have made a difference one way or another in 2008, but him winning MO this time around is slightly more likely than you think.
 
2012-05-06 04:55:38 PM
I'm pretty surprised that they consider VA and PA as tossups.
 
2012-05-06 04:55:54 PM

DeaH: I don't want Mitt to lose because he's Mormon. I want him to lose because he is a human wind sock who can't take a moral or ideological stand. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism and everything to do with his lack of real character.


we get it, he's WHITE.
we know the code words, just say it.
 
2012-05-06 04:56:38 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: It is odd that a major newspaper would predict that this election will be a very close contest.

/And by "odd" I mean "boolsheet."
//It's a good thing that Mitt is the champion of the working class, otherwise he could lose by a landslide.


Can't sell papers if they don't. Oh, and PA as a toss up is a joke. Last poll there put Obama up by 9.

Liberal media my ass.
 
2012-05-06 04:58:19 PM
Barack Obama is Mola Ram?
news.doddleme.comupload.wikimedia.org

I guess all brown people look alike to subby.
 
2012-05-06 04:58:22 PM
The chart says the Tossups net 270 votes to win. Go Team Tossup!
 
2012-05-06 04:58:22 PM

King Something: Mrtraveler01: Seems like a pretty accurate map to me.

I'd be surprised if Obama took Missouri this year when he didn't even take it in 2008.

He came close enough that they had a recount. Granted, it would not have made a difference one way or another in 2008, but him winning MO this time around is slightly more likely than you think.


I'm more worried about McCaskill holding her seat.

I don't want 2 Tea Partiers representing MO in the US Senate.
 
2012-05-06 04:58:30 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: DeaH: I don't want Mitt to lose because he's Mormon. I want him to lose because he is a human wind sock who can't take a moral or ideological stand. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism and everything to do with his lack of real character.

we get it, he's WHITE.
we know the code words, just say it.


Wind socks are traditionally orange.
 
2012-05-06 04:58:42 PM
I'm rooting for a 269-269 tie just so people learn how important voting for congress is.
 
2012-05-06 04:59:05 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: we get it, he's WHITE.
we know the code words, just say it.


Figures the only socks you know about are white.
 
2012-05-06 04:59:22 PM

quatchi: Wow, that map actually didn't suck.

Kudos to the NYT for that.

So, 2012's swing states are the usual suspects with FLA and PA being the top two prizes one again in terms of game winning Electoral Votes with 29 and 20 EVs respectively.

Still find it weird that AZ is considered in play here.


It's really not. Southern Arizona is highly liberal, but with the attacks the DoJ has sent towards Az and the cost of defending the attacks, Obama's administration is wearing thin. Holder is 0-1 already, and from the sounds of it will be shortly 0-2. He also made no friends with his 40 day proclamation to install chair lifts into every pool as Arizona is a high tourism state, would cost the state millions in regulation costs. The hope, like every year, is that the hispanics will turn it. It is shocking to hear that not every hispanic is pandered to by claiming sympathy for illegal immigrants. Many are highly religious and highly law following.
 
2012-05-06 04:59:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: we get it, he's WHITE.


You guys REALLY don't get how the politics tab memes work, do you?
 
2012-05-06 05:00:48 PM

IMDWalrus: tenpoundsofcheese: we get it, he's WHITE.

You guys REALLY don't get how the politics tab memes work, do you?


You're just a FarkLiberalTM.
 
2012-05-06 05:02:29 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: closer than I thought.

For Romney to be tied with 0bama in florida, ohio, and PA is good from Romney.


Yeah, it means Romney still has a shot.

Although RCP has Obama ahead in Ohio by 4.

Link

PA by 7.

Link

And Florida by .5:

Link
 
2012-05-06 05:04:45 PM

MyRandomName: quatchi: Wow, that map actually didn't suck.

Kudos to the NYT for that.

So, 2012's swing states are the usual suspects with FLA and PA being the top two prizes one again in terms of game winning Electoral Votes with 29 and 20 EVs respectively.

Still find it weird that AZ is considered in play here.

It's really not. Southern Arizona is highly liberal, but with the attacks the DoJ has sent towards Az and the cost of defending the attacks, Obama's administration is wearing thin. Holder is 0-1 already, and from the sounds of it will be shortly 0-2. He also made no friends with his 40 day proclamation to install chair lifts into every pool as Arizona is a high tourism state, would cost the state millions in regulation costs. The hope, like every year, is that the hispanics will turn it. It is shocking to hear that not every hispanic is pandered to by claiming sympathy for illegal immigrants. Many are highly religious and highly law following.


That and Maricopa County is populated by idiots

see: Sheriff Joe, and all the AZ legislatiors posting batshiat insane bills. 9 times out of 10 the legislator that proposed it is from Maripcopa County.
 
2012-05-06 05:07:56 PM

Carth: I'm rooting for a 269-269 tie just so people learn how important voting for congress is.


The shenanigans that would ensue would be epic.
 
2012-05-06 05:08:39 PM
Romney should change his campaign slogan to "I love dat ass!"

It would make him seem less stiff.
 
2012-05-06 05:09:39 PM
Wow. That map was so Fox News like it makes me think Murdoch stole something unsavory from the NYT managing editor's voicemail.

I'm not sure why we have to play the game of "this election is so close blah blah blah." This election is Obama's to lose. Romney is weird, he really can't connect with average Americans because he's beyond rich, he got rich by raiding and destroying American companies and driving people out of work, he's northern elite, he's been on both sides of most issues, and he can't stand up to anyone.

Can't we just be honest: Here's the real map- Real Clear Politics and it's not close.
 
2012-05-06 05:10:39 PM
retromedia.ign.com
 
2012-05-06 05:12:12 PM

IMDWalrus: You guys REALLY don't get how the politics tab memes work, do you?


They are too unoriginal to make their own jokes so they steal jokes from others months after they were first used.
 
2012-05-06 05:13:55 PM

IMDWalrus: tenpoundsofcheese: we get it, he's WHITE.

You guys REALLY don't get how the politics tab memes work, do you?


He's been doing this for days now. I think it's just adorable.

But I gotta admit, Romney could be the whitest man in America.

/and thus, the gop nominee.
 
2012-05-06 05:15:25 PM
Hmmmm, that's interesting. I thought the path for Obama would be a pic of Romney that had "Don't be this guy" written on it
 
2012-05-06 05:15:42 PM

RevCarter: I'm pretty surprised that they consider VA and PA as tossups.


PA is certainly a stretch. If Obama loses PA, it's safe to assume the economy has tanked or something and he's losing heavily in a wave election. VA is probably a legit toss-up though.
 
2012-05-06 05:16:17 PM

MyRandomName: quatchi: Wow, that map actually didn't suck.

Kudos to the NYT for that.

So, 2012's swing states are the usual suspects with FLA and PA being the top two prizes one again in terms of game winning Electoral Votes with 29 and 20 EVs respectively.

Still find it weird that AZ is considered in play here.

It's really not. Southern Arizona is highly liberal, but with the attacks the DoJ has sent towards Az and the cost of defending the attacks, Obama's administration is wearing thin. Holder is 0-1 already, and from the sounds of it will be shortly 0-2. He also made no friends with his 40 day proclamation to install chair lifts into every pool as Arizona is a high tourism state, would cost the state millions in regulation costs. The hope, like every year, is that the hispanics will turn it. It is shocking to hear that not every hispanic is pandered to by claiming sympathy for illegal immigrants. Many are highly religious and highly law following.


You mean the proclamation made in September 2010 that gave the nation's estimated 300,000 public pools until March 15th of 2012 to comply with the Americans With Disabilities act and provide wheelchair lifts?

Pretty sure that's longer that 40 days and the DOJ has also said they are not gonna enforce it right away as well.

Somehow I find the notion that AZ will go red 'because Holder' to be weird beyond words but this *is* Arizona we're talking about so anything's possible.
 
2012-05-06 05:17:19 PM

Mrtraveler01: That and Maricopa County is populated by idiots


Blue hairs and mormons.

I honestly think it is a pack mentality at this point. Our state just rammed through a sh*t ton of conservative crap through the legislative anus and Brewer put her wand to many of them. As redistricting is coming, I think this will change. Already some of the tea baggers aren't running for re-election.

Arizona voted Clinton. It could vote Obama. We just need our Governor to provide a massive fail as only she can. Her shutting off funding to PP is, I hope, a huge blast in that direction.
 
2012-05-06 05:18:50 PM

Joliet_Jake: Iowa as a toss-up is really laughable. There hasn't been a poll there since February, which is why it's even on the brink of toss-up status.


I am not sure how Wisconsin is a toss-up either. Most polls show a double digit or close to it lead for Obama.
 
2012-05-06 05:19:53 PM
Here's a great Interactive Electoral Map. Much better than what the NYTimes posted.
Link
You can then go to each state's poll numbers, and you will see that right now Obama is prevailing where it counts, in places like Va., NC, even SC is favoring Obama. Maybe Arizona isn't all that far off, but today isn't the election.
 
2012-05-06 05:20:06 PM
God damnit media, stop creating electoral drama.

Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are never voting for Romney in a close election. NH is a lean Obama. If the others split down the middle Obama wins.

Christ all mighty, I realize we're 6 months out and you need to create drama but stop ignoring reality.
 
2012-05-06 05:22:42 PM

whitman00: Wow. That map was so Fox News like it makes me think Murdoch stole something unsavory from the NYT managing editor's voicemail.

I'm not sure why we have to play the game of "this election is so close blah blah blah." This election is Obama's to lose. Romney is weird, he really can't connect with average Americans because he's beyond rich, he got rich by raiding and destroying American companies and driving people out of work, he's northern elite, he's been on both sides of most issues, and he can't stand up to anyone.

Can't we just be honest: Here's the real map- Real Clear Politics and it's not close.


Horserace!
 
2012-05-06 05:24:34 PM

Skyrmion: RevCarter: I'm pretty surprised that they consider VA and PA as tossups.

PA is certainly a stretch. If Obama loses PA, it's safe to assume the economy has tanked or something and he's losing heavily in a wave election. VA is probably a legit toss-up though.


Don't be too sure. If the voter ID laws that were recently introduced by our wonderful Republican Governor and his lackeys do what they were meant to, and turnout in Philly and Pittsburgh is low he could easily take the state. I'm sure the RNC will do their best to do whatever they can to make it difficult to vote this time around. I expect the same kind of crap that went down in Ohio in 2004-removing voting machines or just plain closing down polling stations in heavily Democratic areas so people have to wait in line for hours, excluding people who have similar names as felons, etc, etc, etc.

The Dems that oversee elections this year better be on their toes or Pennsyltucky will win the day just as it did in 2010.
 
2012-05-06 05:25:38 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: tenpoundsofcheese: DeaH: I don't want Mitt to lose because he's Mormon. I want him to lose because he is a human wind sock who can't take a moral or ideological stand. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism and everything to do with his lack of real character.

we get it, he's WHITE.
we know the code words, just say it.

Wind socks are traditionally orange.


thewashingtonfancy.com
 
2012-05-06 05:27:13 PM

whitman00: Wow. That map was so Fox News like it makes me think Murdoch stole something unsavory from the NYT managing editor's voicemail.

I'm not sure why we have to play the game of "this election is so close blah blah blah." This election is Obama's to lose. Romney is weird, he really can't connect with average Americans because he's beyond rich, he got rich by raiding and destroying American companies and driving people out of work, he's northern elite, he's been on both sides of most issues, and he can't stand up to anyone.

Can't we just be honest: Here's the real map- Real Clear Politics and it's not close.


Notice how those were almost all how Romney could win too.
 
2012-05-06 05:28:20 PM
I could see Florida and Ohio going Republican. (of course, I could also see them going Dem.)

It really doesn't matter. Obama and Romney are basically the exact same candidate.
 
2012-05-06 05:28:54 PM
My prediction for 2012...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-06 05:30:43 PM

kukukupo: I could see Florida and Ohio going Republican. (of course, I could also see them going Dem.)

It really doesn't matter. Obama and Romney are basically the exact same candidate.


Yep, totally the same. Good thing you've found a way to be lazy and disengaged yet still morally superior.
 
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