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(ESPN)   Once again Warren Buffett is a lone voice of reason in the wilderness, standing apart from the small but powerful group of which he is a member. But why the hell is this in the Sports tab?   (espn.go.com) divider line 57
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2012-05-06 04:47:22 PM
It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.
 
2012-05-06 05:44:00 PM
You let 'em in and they'll just go around menstruating everywhere.
 
2012-05-06 06:26:31 PM
 
2012-05-06 07:08:36 PM
Sure, if they can tee off from the same place...why not?
 
2012-05-06 07:27:17 PM
The club does not deny access to women, who can play the course as guests.

Problem solved. Now shut up about it.
 
2012-05-06 07:27:34 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.


So?
 
2012-05-06 07:39:21 PM
how is this news? a private club has rules for membership.

they will eventually allow women, but will stubbornly deny it if it appears someone is trying to pressure them to do so. they are wealthy men who dont want to show weakness.

seriously do we need to worry about the multi millionare women who might be denied access to this club?
 
2012-05-06 07:40:30 PM
No M'am
 
2012-05-06 07:44:22 PM
i272.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-06 07:55:03 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?


That damn Constitution.
 
2012-05-06 07:59:41 PM
they must be all gay or something.
 
2012-05-06 08:00:04 PM

SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.


That damn constitution says we can't pressure them about it?
 
2012-05-06 08:01:22 PM

SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.


They may have a legal right to, but that doesn't mean they aren't assholes for doing it

There is a difference sometimes between what is legal (or constitutional) and what is the moral thing to do.

Not allowing women to be members of one of the most prominent golf clubs in the country, if not the world, for no apparent reason other than "we say so", is being a jackass.
 
2012-05-06 08:12:04 PM
So can I join Curves for Women? Why not?
 
2012-05-06 08:17:07 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.


Warren Buffet IS a private citizen. He is free to make statements about it.
 
2012-05-06 08:37:30 PM

SharkTrager: That damn Constitution.


What about it?
 
2012-05-06 08:46:52 PM

ToddMU03: So can I join Curves for Women? Why not?


Duh, it's only sexist if men do it.
 
2012-05-06 09:30:13 PM

Hydra: The club does not deny access to women, who can play the course as guests.

Problem solved. Now shut up about it.


Nu uh, its white boys keeping women's down, us far left need to shut them downs!!!!!

He's a troll who biatches about everything politically correct to get attention, it will be better once he dies.
 
2012-05-06 09:30:19 PM

SkittlesAreYum: SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.

That damn constitution says we can't pressure them about it?


No, it says that "They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be."

You can pressure all you want, but for some reason a lot of Farkers seem to remember the constitution when it comes to the protesting part but forget about the "freedom of association" part.
 
2012-05-06 10:05:22 PM
So he wants to pay more taxes but won't suffer his cash-rich company to pay a taxable dividend and he wants to belong to nondiscriminatory golf clubs but keeps writing checks to Augusta.

You know, for a guy smart enough to get as rich as he is, he sure seems to have a problem seeing obvious solutions to his problems.
 
2012-05-06 10:16:29 PM
When Women allow men to compete on the LPGA, go ahead and make this an issue.
 
2012-05-06 10:17:03 PM

RogermcAllen: ToddMU03: So can I join Curves for Women? Why not?

Duh, it's only sexist if men do it.


At least according to Wikipedia "Curves fitness and weight loss facilities are designed specifically for and focused on women, although in some states, men are allowed to join.".

I am guessing, Georgia is probably not one of them ;)
 
2012-05-06 10:17:54 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: So he wants to pay more taxes but won't suffer his cash-rich company to pay a taxable dividend and he wants to belong to nondiscriminatory golf clubs but keeps writing checks to Augusta.

You know, for a guy smart enough to get as rich as he is, he sure seems to have a problem seeing obvious solutions to his problems.


No matter how rich someone is they can't afford to pay for everyone who wants the advantages of western civilization without making reasonable contributions.
Civilization requires a fair contribution from everyone but especially from those of us who have the most and thus benefit the most from the fruits of that civilization.

In short: even Warren can't pick up the tab for all you greed crazed self deluding morons, nor should he need to.
 
2012-05-06 10:18:00 PM
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing what Warren Buffet thinks.
 
2012-05-06 10:22:21 PM
If women become members, I as a man want to join an all women's gym....

/giggity
 
2012-05-06 10:32:36 PM

VvonderJesus: Frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing what Warren Buffet thinks.


Agreed.
 
2012-05-06 10:37:52 PM

AnEvilGuest: Manfred J. Hattan: So he wants to pay more taxes but won't suffer his cash-rich company to pay a taxable dividend and he wants to belong to nondiscriminatory golf clubs but keeps writing checks to Augusta.

You know, for a guy smart enough to get as rich as he is, he sure seems to have a problem seeing obvious solutions to his problems.

No matter how rich someone is they can't afford to pay for everyone who wants the advantages of western civilization without making reasonable contributions.
Civilization requires a fair contribution from everyone but especially from those of us who have the most and thus benefit the most from the fruits of that civilization.

In short: even Warren can't pick up the tab for all you greed crazed self deluding morons, nor should he need to.


And I'm completely OK with that, I really am. I'm not one of those people who say, "Hey, donate it to the treasury if you want to pay so much." I just think that maybe he'd look a little less silly saying "his" taxes should be higher if he were proposing increases that actually fell on, you know, him. Approximately 0% of his net worth would be affected by the changes he advocates. It's quite common for companies of BRK's size and maturity to pay a dividend, why doesn't his? I'm not talking about enough to jeopardize the company's credit rating, just a small portion of current earnings. His personal tax rate would actually go down and yet the Treasury would collect hundreds of millions currently locked up. Everyone wins, except for people who object to "double taxation" of dividends, but screw 'em, they can complain when they're in a spot to do something about it.

Likewise, if Buffett really wanted to belong to exclusive golf clubs not in his hometown which admit women, there are plenty to choose from who would be thrilled beyond belief to welcome him as a member. Who knows, if Augusta started noticing its best members watering away to other world-class clubs they might be quicker to reevaluate their stance.
 
2012-05-06 11:06:11 PM

SharkTrager: You can pressure all you want


Thanks! Kind of makes bringing up the Constitution pointless, then, since that's all anyone is doing.
 
2012-05-06 11:26:43 PM

SharkTrager: You can pressure all you want, but for some reason a lot of Farkers seem to remember the constitution when it comes to the protesting part but forget about the "freedom of association" part.


Seeing as absolutely nobody in the thread prior to your post said anything about making it a crime for them to do this or suggesting they loose any constitutional rights, I might have to kind of call bullshiat on the "lot of farkers seem to..." statement.

Its like in threads where you mock someone and some apologist comes up and says "freedom of speech!" as if that means that you aren't allowed to have a negative opinion of someones choice of how to exercise their freedoms.
 
2012-05-06 11:52:05 PM

steamingpile: Hydra: The club does not deny access to women, who can play the course as guests.

Problem solved. Now shut up about it
Nu uh, its white boys keeping women's down, us far left need to shut them downs!!!!!
He's a troll who biatches about everything politically correct to get attention, it will be better once he dies.


I'm not wishing him death...but it's pretty damn easy to say "admit the wimmin folk" when he doesn;t actually have to back it up (although he could probably buy the entire club). And "pay more in taxes" yet his company does the LEGAL thing and try to avoid paying additional taxes.

"No one should ever be patted down at the airport" - I have a private jet
"No one should ever go to jail" - I'm surrounded by a moat and a small army
"Everyone should get a free unicorn" - it's up to them on how they create and pay for unicorn feed

It's pretty easy to say popular things when you don't have to actually back them up or come up with actual solutions.

I'm actually sick of having the argument with my Mom.
Mom-"What is wrong with this country...everyone should be taken care of and not have to worry about anything".
Me-Well who PAYS for it? SOMEONE has to get their ass up and go to a job they hate to pay some sort of tax...even in a barter system.".
Mom-"well at least sick people would be taken care of"
Me-"Even in a barter system, if you're too sick to mow the Doctor's lawn, he's not going to give you free medicine forever. Someone has to do SOMETHING to put it in to the 'system' even if that system is local, state, federal or just on your street."

I'd LOVE a barter system but you would still need to pay in to a system for fire/police/infrastructure etc...

It's one thing wanting a utopia...it's another to think it actually is possible without someone working MORE than someone else who can't (or won't) work.

/convo tonight started over the France election where the "people" elected someone that can hopefully get them more "stuff". But WHERE does the stuff come from. Simple question and a pretty simple answer. SOMEONE ELSE.

/old people are funny because they're old now
 
2012-05-07 12:24:27 AM
I love that the policy bothers him so much that he makes a comment about it in front of some reporters but not enough to, you know, actually, I don't know, resign his membership in a sexist organization.

We shouldn't be surprised. Just more hypocrisy from Mr. Buffet.
 
2012-05-07 12:45:39 AM

Nuno311: I'd LOVE a barter system but you would still need to pay in to a system for fire/police/infrastructure etc...


That wouldnt work because hot women would get everything quicker than the rest of us.

meanmutton: I love that the policy bothers him so much that he makes a comment about it in front of some reporters but not enough to, you know, actually, I don't know, resign his membership in a sexist organization.

We shouldn't be surprised. Just more hypocrisy from Mr. Buffet.


But yet the left holds him up a voice of reason and shining example of a good CEO, ignoring he had to fark people over to make his billions.
 
2012-05-07 01:07:53 AM
I'm not aware of a single person he treated unfairly in his business or other affairs.
 
2012-05-07 01:52:14 AM

Silverstaff: SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.

They may have a legal right to, but that doesn't mean they aren't assholes for doing it

There is a difference sometimes between what is legal (or constitutional) and what is the moral thing to do.

Not allowing women to be members of one of the most prominent golf clubs in the country, if not the world, for no apparent reason other than "we say so", is being a jackass.


What is the big deal here? I don't see anyone raising huge amounts of shiat over the all fat chick Curves gym that denies men memberships?

Build your own damn golf course if you dont like it.
 
2012-05-07 01:58:23 AM

meanmutton: I love that the policy bothers him so much that he makes a comment about it in front of some reporters but not enough to, you know, actually, I don't know, resign his membership in a sexist organization.

We shouldn't be surprised. Just more hypocrisy from Mr. Buffet.


I love that you're so retarded that you think he called a press conference in order to announce his feelings about the policy, instead of realizing that he doesn't control what the reporters ask him.
 
2012-05-07 01:59:08 AM
It's a private organization. STFU and GBTW.
 
2012-05-07 02:32:17 AM
Are all of Mr. Buffett's musings newsworthy
 
2012-05-07 04:11:42 AM
They won't let me join either... farking discrimination. Just 'cause I can;t afford it... so not fair.

/Been there once.
//It's pretty, but I don't get the big deal about it.
///didn't golf though.
 
2012-05-07 06:20:57 AM

ToddMU03: So can I join Curves for Women? Why not?


I thought the same thing. Why are organizations who only allow men getting looked down on, but the same type thing doesn't happen to women only organizations?
 
2012-05-07 07:19:49 AM
My, this thread is full of tough, independent real men who have worked their ass off for everything they have, and never received any help from anybody, by Gawd!

Too bad they don't exist in real life.
 
2012-05-07 07:50:52 AM

pho75: Silverstaff: SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.

They may have a legal right to, but that doesn't mean they aren't assholes for doing it

There is a difference sometimes between what is legal (or constitutional) and what is the moral thing to do.

Not allowing women to be members of one of the most prominent golf clubs in the country, if not the world, for no apparent reason other than "we say so", is being a jackass.

What is the big deal here? I don't see anyone raising huge amounts of shiat over the all fat chick Curves gym that denies men memberships?

Build your own damn golf course if you dont like it.


People like to point out Curves, like they have no good reason for excluding men (and in some states, they can't, but they clearly don't cater to them).

Many women do not like to work out around men. They are afraid they are going to be ogled, or they are very self-conscious about their body and don't want to be seen by men. Curves was created as a place for women to work out away from the percieved pressures of working out around men. Some normal gyms have separate workout rooms for women that wanted privacy, I've been a member at a couple that did. Sounds reasonable.

Are the men of the Augusta National club afraid women would ogle them? Are they ashamed or anxous about their bodies and are not comfortable playing sports with women around? Or are they just sexist pigs who like to have a boys club just because they can?
 
2012-05-07 08:23:21 AM

Silverstaff: Are the men of the Augusta National club afraid women would ogle them?


No, but women require extra tees, more bathrooms and changing rooms. Plus, I wouldn't want to have my dues go up to keep the place stacked in tampons and have to worry about some PMSing woman coming in and wrecking the clubhouse all because her golf shorts made her legs feel fat.

Silverstaff: Or are they just sexist pigs who like to have a boys club just because they can?


Maybe. What does it matter to you?
 
2012-05-07 08:36:55 AM

babysealclubber: Silverstaff: Are the men of the Augusta National club afraid women would ogle them?

No, but women require extra tees, more bathrooms and changing rooms. Plus, I wouldn't want to have my dues go up to keep the place stacked in tampons and have to worry about some PMSing woman coming in and wrecking the clubhouse all because her golf shorts made her legs feel fat.


Is it extra tees just because there are more members?

I really doubt adding ladies rooms is the reason they wouldn't do that. It's kind of a wealthy club, and that would be a one-time expense easily offset by the membership fees of the added female members.

As for keeping the place "stacked in tampons", I don't know about Augusta National specifically, but most large companies and offices contract with a janitorial services firm for things like toilet paper and cleaning supplies. . .and keeping the ladies room stocked with tampons and pads is something they normally do as part of a standard service contract, there is no incremental cost.

You're really afraid women are destructive and will go on a violent rampage because of PMS and feeling that an outfit makes them look fat? Citations please? Where have there been cases at any of the countless gender-equal golf courses in the country of this happening? Any news stories you can bring up, anything to back up why Augusta National is one of the few men's only clubs and that being afraid of PMSing women being violent being a reason?


Maybe. What does it matter to you?


It doesn't really. I don't play golf, I'm not wealthy enough to afford a membership, and I live hundreds of miles away from Augusta National. My interest in this is purely academic, the idea that a group of sexist men are having their little "no girls allowed" club as grown-ups, which just happens to be one of the more famous golf courses in the world, and do it for no apparent reason other than they want to.

Do they have a legal right? Yeah. Do they have any good reason to? No.
 
2012-05-07 08:45:06 AM
Are the men of the Augusta National club afraid women would ogle them? Are they ashamed or anxous about their bodies and are not comfortable playing sports with women around? Or are they just sexist pigs who like to have a boys club just because they can?

Puh-lease. Other women, not men, are responsible for fatty's low self-esteem. But, as you implicitly recognize, allowing the opposite sex into a social setting changes the dynamic. A lot of my best memories as a child occurred during male-only activities. That does not make me chauvinistic, not even close. I think there is value in excluding girls from boy scouts and boys from girl scouts and some value the experience of a single-sex environment for school. There is nothing inherently wrong with these things. Men might not be afraid of being ogled on the golf course, but maybe they are afraid of being judged by a bunch of women who think that taking a leak on the back 9 is a vile act. If I want to piss in the woods damn't, I will do so without being judged.
 
2012-05-07 09:06:20 AM

Silverstaff: You're really afraid women are destructive and will go on a violent rampage because of PMS and feeling that an outfit makes them look fat? Citations please? Where have there been cases at any of the countless gender-equal golf courses in the country of this happening? Any news stories you can bring up, anything to back up why Augusta National is one of the few men's only clubs and that being afraid of PMSing women being violent being a reason?


About the only serious thing I typed was that ladies require an extra set of tees, but they more than likely already have a set. Women, I believe, can golf there. They just can't be members.
 
2012-05-07 09:08:47 AM

skrame: meanmutton: I love that the policy bothers him so much that he makes a comment about it in front of some reporters but not enough to, you know, actually, I don't know, resign his membership in a sexist organization.

We shouldn't be surprised. Just more hypocrisy from Mr. Buffet.

I love that you're so retarded that you think he called a press conference in order to announce his feelings about the policy, instead of realizing that he doesn't control what the reporters ask him.


I love that you're so stupid that you think I think he called a press conference. Oh, and that you white knight for billionaire hypocrites.
 
2012-05-07 09:36:06 AM

Silverstaff: pho75: Silverstaff: SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.

They may have a legal right to, but that doesn't mean they aren't assholes for doing it

There is a difference sometimes between what is legal (or constitutional) and what is the moral thing to do.

Not allowing women to be members of one of the most prominent golf clubs in the country, if not the world, for no apparent reason other than "we say so", is being a jackass.

What is the big deal here? I don't see anyone raising huge amounts of shiat over the all fat chick Curves gym that denies men memberships?

Build your own damn golf course if you dont like it.

People like to point out Curves, like they have no good reason for excluding men (and in some states, they can't, but they clearly don't cater to them).

Many women do not like to work out around men. They are afraid they are going to be ogled, or they are very self-conscious about their body and don't want to be seen by men. Curves was created as a place for women to work out away from the percieved pressures of working out around men. Some normal gyms have separate workout rooms for women that wanted privacy, I've been a member at a couple that did. Sounds reasonable.

Are the men of the Augusta National club afraid women would ogle them? Are they ashamed or anxous about their bodies and are not comfortable playing sports with women around? Or are they just sexist pigs who like to have a boys club just because they can?


What if the men of Augusta National just want a place to be that doesn't include women? It isn't sexist. It is a refuge. Same way Curves is a refuge for women.
 
2012-05-07 09:47:15 AM

ToddMU03: What if the men of Augusta National just want a place to be that doesn't include women? It isn't sexist. It is a refuge. Same way Curves is a refuge for women.


No no no, men are incapable of wanting a place without women without being either sexist or gay. Women, however, want places away from men because men are terrible, horrible creatures.
 
2012-05-07 11:28:20 AM

SharkTrager: SkittlesAreYum: SharkTrager: tallguywithglasseson: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It IS a private organization. They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be.

So?

That damn Constitution.

That damn constitution says we can't pressure them about it?

No, it says that "They are free to not allow whomever they wish, no matter how stupid or dickish the reason(s) may be."

You can pressure all you want, but for some reason a lot of Farkers seem to remember the constitution when it comes to the protesting part but forget about the "freedom of association" part.


I'm sure you can point out in this thread where someone called for the government to get involved. I'll be here.
 
2012-05-07 12:02:24 PM
WB = Attention Whore

/Go be rich somewhere else.
 
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