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2012-05-06 08:26:38 PM  

foxbrook78: farbekrieg: penthesilea: thursdaypostal: First of all, I was primarily talking about all the sharpie/pregnant/fat mexican comments

Please don't forget that we're also in gangs, lazy, and steal -all- the jobs.

filling up their low riders with free healthcare and..... snow

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 201x275]

Wait... is that an Archer reference to loading up a car with snow in Big Bear/Baldy and driving back to LA that I missed?


the bolded segment reminded me of mallory from training day

Mallory : Immigrants! That's how they do, you know. Just drive around listening to raps and shooting all the jobs.

Swiss Miss
Mallory : Immigrants! Cramming their lowriders full of free health care and ...snow.

Training Day
Mallory:
 
2012-05-06 08:26:49 PM  

lordargent:

// Just stay away from the steampunk/deppism stuff


What's wrong with Steampunk?

Here's my Steampunk outfit.
a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
I've made some tweaks and improvements to it since.

Here I am on stage with Thomas Dolby in my Steampunk kit.
a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

And here was my Frank N. Furter costume from a Steampunk reworking of the Rocky Horror Show I starred in recently.
a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

It's all good fun.

Another Steampunk themed show I peformed in.
a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Here's a recording of our rendition of Sweet Dreams from the Steampunk Titanic show.
 
2012-05-06 08:30:36 PM  

Funk Brothers: Yeah I dress up in lolita fashion from time to time and I'm a guy.
[farm3.staticflickr.com image 373x500]
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 333x500]


Let your freak flag fly, baby! b^_^d
 
2012-05-06 08:31:10 PM  

Ghastly: lordargent:

// Just stay away from the steampunk/deppism stuff


What's wrong with Steampunk?

Here's my Steampunk outfit.

I've made some tweaks and improvements to it since.

Here I am on stage with Thomas Dolby in my Steampunk kit.


And here was my Frank N. Furter costume from a Steampunk reworking of the Rocky Horror Show I starred in recently.


It's all good fun.

Another Steampunk themed show I peformed in.

Here's a recording of our rendition of Sweet Dreams from the Steampunk Titanic show.


If I were 20 years younger and single I would love to be ignored by you in my hopeless infatuation.

I was verra shy.
 
2012-05-06 08:40:28 PM  

Miss.UnderstoodRedhead: Funk Brothers: Yes, that is me.

I also wanted to point out, that lolita fashion is not an Anime subculture. Lolita fashion is from Japan derived from victorian and rococo fashions. Basically it's a street fashion in Japan. It gets clumped a lot at Anime Cons. Also the dresses are expensive to upwards of $300 to a $1000.

Wow. You do better at being a woman, than I do. And that's saying a lot, considering I was born with boobs and eyelashes.

:(


That's funny, I'm a guy, and I have boobs and eyelashes. Does that make me some sort of mutant?

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.
 
2012-05-06 08:45:58 PM  

Kali-Yuga: cookiefleck: You know that the Sharpie wielding latibas are just a small subset of Latinas, right?

Sure, there are plenty of good looking mexican girls, until they hit their early 20's and have had their 6th kid. Then they slowly get fatter and fatter, until they get old enough to start shrinking in stature and become oompa loompas.


fark YOU you racist punetero piece of shiat!
 
2012-05-06 08:49:27 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: That's funny, I'm a guy, and I have boobs and eyelashes. Does that make me some sort of mutant?


If you have boobs and you're a guy, then yes, that does make you kind of a mutant. Hence the term.

I personally don't care how anyone identifies themselves. It doesn't matter to me one whit. I just wish that I was one half of a percent, as much woman, as some men on this site.

Dammitallanyway.

:(
 
2012-05-06 09:02:00 PM  
The Jami Turman Fan Club:

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.

More accurately, most of the pictures are Gothic Lolita fashion. The Lolita part comes from the Victorian-era little girl / doll clothing style (frills, ribbons, lace, petticoats, bonnets). Think Alice from Through the Looking Glass taken to an extreme. The Gothic part comes in when you combine this style with make-up (dark lipstick and nail colors, pale foundation, excessive eyeliner, etc) and additional fashion elements like leather knee-high platform leather boots, metal rings or chains, corsets, piercings, etc.
 
2012-05-06 09:22:51 PM  

Turbo Cojones: fark YOU you racist punetero piece of shiat!


Right back at ya, chuntaro.
 
2012-05-06 09:26:55 PM  

ElLoco: Clicked on this expecting some hot latina bootay.
I'm sorely disappointed in Fark today. :(

[www.strangesports.com image 540x376]

/hot, on multiple levels


Yah, yah, yah.

Fast forward ten years, and dat ass looks like a lumpy ottoman.
 
mjg
2012-05-06 09:29:13 PM  
Funk Brothers: very brave. I'd assume some of the Farkers will take liberties with your posted pics.
 
2012-05-06 09:29:25 PM  
Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?

I've got three cases of Chinese gas masks I'm Steampunking out
for a horror show, btw.
I strip them down at work to just the rubber, and them re-attach what ever goggles, fangs, prosthesis' I can find. Then they're getting painted.
When I get done, I expect to have a nice set of post apocalyptic zombie raider survivalist faces of various freakishness.
I'm toying with setting in little red LEDs for eyeballs on some. Some will be worn by people, some by jack-o-lanterns.
 
2012-05-06 09:37:49 PM  

Ghastly: lordargent:

// Just stay away from the steampunk/deppism stuff


What's wrong with Steampunk?

Here's my Steampunk outfit.
[a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x871]
I've made some tweaks and improvements to it since.

Here I am on stage with Thomas Dolby in my Steampunk kit.
[a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x426]

And here was my Frank N. Furter costume from a Steampunk reworking of the Rocky Horror Show I starred in recently.
[a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 549x960]

It's all good fun.

Another Steampunk themed show I peformed in.
[a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x426]

[a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 519x720]

Here's a recording of our rendition of Sweet Dreams from the Steampunk Titanic show.


These look great. And they don't give me nightmares like that one video you did a couple years back.
 
2012-05-06 09:37:50 PM  

Kali-Yuga: Turbo Cojones: fark YOU you racist punetero piece of shiat!

Right back at ya, chuntaro.


At least you're enough of a little man to admit that you are a racist you piece of shiat. You are the person whom the term "niger" fits perfectly; it has nothing to do with color, everything to do with Mom's basement living sociopaths.

fark you very much, and I hope you die in a fire.
 
2012-05-06 09:41:38 PM  

lordargent: LOLita No

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x675]



cdn.instanttrap.com
 
2012-05-06 09:42:02 PM  

Ghastly: Here I am on stage with Thomas Dolby in my Steampunk kit.


steampunk + thomas dolby + squeeze box = we are not worthy
 
2012-05-06 09:49:52 PM  

Ghastly: What's wrong with Steampunk?


Why do you keep looking at something off in the distance?

/I keed.
 
2012-05-06 09:50:04 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Miss.UnderstoodRedhead: Funk Brothers: Yes, that is me.

I also wanted to point out, that lolita fashion is not an Anime subculture. Lolita fashion is from Japan derived from victorian and rococo fashions. Basically it's a street fashion in Japan. It gets clumped a lot at Anime Cons. Also the dresses are expensive to upwards of $300 to a $1000.

Wow. You do better at being a woman, than I do. And that's saying a lot, considering I was born with boobs and eyelashes.

:(

That's funny, I'm a guy, and I have boobs and eyelashes. Does that make me some sort of mutant?

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.


Nah, not enough glittery blood drinking "vegetarians"
 
2012-05-06 09:52:09 PM  

Ghastly: lordargent:

// Just stay away from the steampunk/deppism stuff


What's wrong with Steampunk?

Here's my Steampunk outfit.
[a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x871]
I've made some tweaks and improvements to it since.

Here I am on stage with Thomas Dolby in my Steampunk kit.
[a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x426]

And here was my Frank N. Furter costume from a Steampunk reworking of the Rocky Horror Show I starred in recently.
[a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 549x960]

It's all good fun.

Another Steampunk themed show I peformed in.
[a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x426]

[a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 519x720]

Here's a recording of our rendition of Sweet Dreams from the Steampunk Titanic show.


The TD gig, was that the TO show from just a few weeks ago? I only found out about too late to change plans to go... still sorry I missed it...
 
2012-05-06 09:57:55 PM  
I'm a little confused here. I thought Lolita referred to a girl that made me need to have a seat over there. She should be scantily dressed, morally questionable, and clearly too young. I'd rather have a Real Doll than a Betsy Wetsy.
 
2012-05-06 10:06:22 PM  
Ghastly: What's wrong with Steampunk?

Because if you're going for Neo Victorian, then steampunk is too close to the edge

And it's a very thin line before you step off the cliff of ridiculousness.

Which you managed to do, since I don't see a single piece of clockwork in your costumes.

On the flipside

operachic.typepad.com
 
2012-05-06 10:08:10 PM  

Turbo Cojones: At least you're enough of a little man to admit that you are a racist you piece of shiat. You are the person whom the term "niger" fits perfectly; it has nothing to do with color, everything to do with Mom's basement living sociopaths.

fark you very much, and I hope you die in a fire.


Nope, just an elitist. Race has nothing to do with it. I assure you I feel the same disgust for uneducated, lower class people of all ethnicities. Your own countrymen in Mexico feel the same way, why do you think they encourage the absolute dregs of their society to come to America? Why do you think words like naco and chuntaro exist?

My parents do have a basement though, yours probably grew up in a corrugated tin shack with a dirt floor.
How many people in your family have gone to college?
How many generations of your family have had indoor plumbing?

Don't be mad just because you're at most two generations removed from what basically amount to cavemen, while people of Eurasian descent have had the benefit of thousands of years longer of being civilized.
 
2012-05-06 10:11:32 PM  

Gunny Walker: I'm a little confused here. I thought Lolita referred to a girl that made me need to have a seat over there. She should be scantily dressed, morally questionable, and clearly too young. I'd rather have a Real Doll than a Betsy Wetsy.


I think the art which started the fashion trend is exactly that, but the people who cosplay it are of age.

Although i believe the legal age in Japan is 13, so probably not a good idea to investigate the matter to closely.
 
2012-05-06 10:23:08 PM  

foxbrook78: r1chard3: Quincinita

"Quincinita" About 1,040 results (0.11 seconds)

"Quinceanera" About 22,500,000 results (0.13 seconds)

But yeah, I was thinking that this wasn't much of a stretch based on how ridiculous those quinceanera dresses get.


Well that explains why there weren't any good images in my GIS
 
2012-05-06 10:40:14 PM  
That's not anywhere near as sexy as what I get if I type "Mexican Lolita" into google image search.
 
2012-05-06 10:44:25 PM  

Isildur: feckingmorons: sno man: feckingmorons:

About once a year I drive there from Florida through all the towns that you hear such terrible things about. I never had any problems.

Then what happens when you get to Mexico?

I pay less for gasoline, drive on a toll road that includes insurance against damage from the road or road debris in the price of the toll, I can drive as fast as I want on the well maintained road without risking an expensive speeding ticket as the police have more important things to do, and then I visit friend and have a great time in Nuevo Leon.

Mexico is fantastic.


Is ransom insurance included too?


Oddly my employer provides K&R insurance.
 
2012-05-06 10:50:04 PM  
As a Native Mexican, and one that used to be knee-deep in anime, I have to say...

i3.kym-cdn.com

That's a batch of crazy I'ver never wanted before, and now it would be a worse idea.
 
2012-05-06 10:55:09 PM  

lordargent: Ghastly: What's wrong with Steampunk?

Because if you're going for Neo Victorian, then steampunk is too close to the edge

And it's a very thin line before you step off the cliff of ridiculousness.

Which you managed to do, since I don't see a single piece of clockwork in your costumes.

On the flipside

[operachic.typepad.com image 400x600]


Well, Western Steampunk works rather well...

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-05-06 10:58:48 PM  

Turbo Cojones: You are the person whom the term "niger" fits perfectly; it has nothing to do with color, everything to do with Mom's basement living sociopaths.


Actually Niger is a country in Western Africa south of Algeria.
 
2012-05-06 11:03:10 PM  

feckingmorons: Actually Niger is a country in Western Africa south of Algeria.


please
 
2012-05-06 11:12:52 PM  
Ghastly:

What's wrong with Steampunk?

Hawt. Mrow
 
2012-05-06 11:13:46 PM  

Kali-Yuga: Turbo Cojones: At least you're enough of a little man to admit that you are a racist you piece of shiat. You are the person whom the term "niger" fits perfectly; it has nothing to do with color, everything to do with Mom's basement living sociopaths.

fark you very much, and I hope you die in a fire.

Nope, just a n elitist. Race has nothing to do with it. I assure you I feel the same disgust for uneducated, lower class people of all ethnicities. Your own countrymen in Mexico feel the same way, why do you think they encourage the absolute dregs of their society to come to America? Why do you think words like naco and chuntaro exist?

My parents do have a basement though, yours probably grew up in a corrugated tin shack with a dirt floor.
How many people in your family have gone to college?
How many generations of your family have had indoor plumbing?

Don't be mad just because you're at most two generations removed from what basically amount to cavemen, while people of Eurasian descent have had the benefit of thousands of years longer of being civilized
piece of shiat.


You kind of danced around the point there, so I decided to distill your post to it's truest form.
 
2012-05-06 11:22:01 PM  

feckingmorons: Turbo Cojones: You are the person whom the term "niger" fits perfectly; it has nothing to do with color, everything to do with Mom's basement living sociopaths.

Actually Niger is a country in Western Africa south of Algeria.


www.zuguide.com
But that's not important now.
 
2012-05-06 11:22:37 PM  
This is also what you get mixing Japanese and Faux Mexican culture.

Carlito! Carlito!
 
2012-05-06 11:26:53 PM  
Mexican girls have dressed like this for years... in the red light district, about the same age, too.
 
2012-05-06 11:29:48 PM  

Iceman208481: What's a lolita?


Link
 
2012-05-06 11:37:26 PM  

ElLoco: Clicked on this expecting some hot latina bootay.
I'm sorely disappointed in Fark today. :(

[www.strangesports.com image 540x376]

/hot, on multiple levels


+1
 
2012-05-06 11:45:36 PM  
 
2012-05-06 11:47:23 PM  
Interesting. It was at its peak in Japan in 2007-8, in the US in 2008-9, and now it's starting to peak in Mexico. I've known some people in the anime subculture down there who mentioned that fads were always behind - they got Sailor Moon a couple of years later than us - but I didn't think it would be this far behind with the internet in full swing.
 
2012-05-06 11:57:07 PM  

vudukungfu: Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?

I've got three cases of Chinese gas masks I'm Steampunking out
for a horror show, btw.
I strip them down at work to just the rubber, and them re-attach what ever goggles, fangs, prosthesis' I can find. Then they're getting painted.
When I get done, I expect to have a nice set of post apocalyptic zombie raider survivalist faces of various freakishness.
I'm toying with setting in little red LEDs for eyeballs on some. Some will be worn by people, some by jack-o-lanterns.


I've been trying to sell lots of random brass parts and copper/porcelain enameled gauge faces on ebay, so I'm getting a kick...

/item #300700549956 etc.
 
2012-05-06 11:58:18 PM  
The "lolita" in that article at the supermarket is pretty banging. Her name is Alin Nav. I used python to scrape her website, and provide to you (rehosted) further study:

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com

www.generallystupid.com
 
2012-05-06 11:58:58 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: Iceman208481: What's a lolita?

A Lolita is a Corsican singer

[i53.photobucket.com image 576x800]


...who has had more men salute her than Napoleon.
 
2012-05-07 12:02:55 AM  

Tsu-na-mi: The Jami Turman Fan Club:

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.

More accurately, most of the pictures are Gothic Lolita fashion. The Lolita part comes from the Victorian-era little girl / doll clothing style (frills, ribbons, lace, petticoats, bonnets). Think Alice from Through the Looking Glass taken to an extreme. The Gothic part comes in when you combine this style with make-up (dark lipstick and nail colors, pale foundation, excessive eyeliner, etc) and additional fashion elements like leather knee-high platform leather boots, metal rings or chains, corsets, piercings, etc.


Gothic literally refers to the Gothic period as a proxy for "something deep in the past," with a strong wink and a nod back to goth inspiring the makeup, though the fashion itself is obviously Victorian rather than Gothic.

/80's goths even tend to bristle and take offense when you try to use gothic to describe them - particularly after Gothic Metal showed up and people constantly confused it with Goth Rock.
//80's pop pedantry is probably meaningless today.
 
2012-05-07 12:03:17 AM  

heinekev: The "lolita" in that article at the supermarket is pretty banging. Her name is Alin Nav. I used python to scrape her website, and provide to you (rehosted) further study:


Everything about her is banging but her face...
 
2012-05-07 12:03:27 AM  

vudukungfu: Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?


They fall over my eyes when I'm performing a lot. They're a little on the heavy side. I've been slowly adding bits and pieces too them. I added some magnifying loops and a bit of bronze decoration recently.

a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Next thing I'm going to make will be a sidearm.
 
2012-05-07 12:03:28 AM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-05-07 12:20:33 AM  

sno man:
The TD gig, was that the TO show from just a few weeks ago? I only found out about too late to change plans to go... still sorry I missed it...


Yeah, the gig at the Mod club. It was a hell of a good show. Sold out too. I got to record a message in the Time Capsule too which was fun.

a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
Thomas had a really cool monacle-goggle. I had no idea such a costume piece even existed so I was suitably impressed with it. I was also impressed with the fiddle player's (Aaron Jonah Lewis) magnificent beard.

a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
Just LOOK at that beard! LOOK AT IT!
 
2012-05-07 12:20:50 AM  

Ghastly: vudukungfu: Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?


They fall over my eyes when I'm performing a lot. They're a little on the heavy side. I've been slowly adding bits and pieces too them. I added some magnifying loops and a bit of bronze decoration recently.

[a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x598]

Next thing I'm going to make will be a sidearm.


I have the chopped down stock (almost handgun size), trigger and firing pin half of an old 12 gauge shotgun (from the barrel hinge back) I found years ago in some junk my grandfather had. It would make an awesome base for a steampunk weapon partly because of a little rust patina on the steel and partly because it can be cocked and fired still, but I don't know how to sell it or possess it in public legally, even though whatever crazy brass barrel added to it will not make it into a functional weapon.... Anybody have any ideas?
 
2012-05-07 12:28:00 AM  
I don't care what you call it goth, punk, steampunk or lolita. All I know is it makes me think of deviant sex.
 
2012-05-07 12:31:36 AM  

foxbrook78: Ghastly: vudukungfu: Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?


They fall over my eyes when I'm performing a lot. They're a little on the heavy side. I've been slowly adding bits and pieces too them. I added some magnifying loops and a bit of bronze decoration recently.

[a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 640x598]

Next thing I'm going to make will be a sidearm.

I have the chopped down stock (almost handgun size), trigger and firing pin half of an old 12 gauge shotgun (from the barrel hinge back) I found years ago in some junk my grandfather had. It would make an awesome base for a steampunk weapon partly because of a little rust patina on the steel and partly because it can be cocked and fired still, but I don't know how to sell it or possess it in public legally, even though whatever crazy brass barrel added to it will not make it into a functional weapon.... Anybody have any ideas?


I don't know what the laws are like where you live, but here in Ontario it would be illegal even though it wasn't functional. I have a friend who works at a museum and the paperwork on the firearms for display is incredibly burdensome, even if the firearm is completely non functional and incomplete it still counts. Un-rifled black powder firearms don't require any license though.
 
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