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2012-05-07 12:28:00 AM  
I don't care what you call it goth, punk, steampunk or lolita. All I know is it makes me think of deviant sex.
 
2012-05-07 12:31:36 AM  

foxbrook78: Ghastly: vudukungfu: Ghastly:
Subby here. Do the goggle actually do anything?


They fall over my eyes when I'm performing a lot. They're a little on the heavy side. I've been slowly adding bits and pieces too them. I added some magnifying loops and a bit of bronze decoration recently.

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Next thing I'm going to make will be a sidearm.

I have the chopped down stock (almost handgun size), trigger and firing pin half of an old 12 gauge shotgun (from the barrel hinge back) I found years ago in some junk my grandfather had. It would make an awesome base for a steampunk weapon partly because of a little rust patina on the steel and partly because it can be cocked and fired still, but I don't know how to sell it or possess it in public legally, even though whatever crazy brass barrel added to it will not make it into a functional weapon.... Anybody have any ideas?


I don't know what the laws are like where you live, but here in Ontario it would be illegal even though it wasn't functional. I have a friend who works at a museum and the paperwork on the firearms for display is incredibly burdensome, even if the firearm is completely non functional and incomplete it still counts. Un-rifled black powder firearms don't require any license though.
 
2012-05-07 12:32:13 AM  

sleeper2995: I don't care what you call it goth, punk, steampunk or lolita. All I know is it makes me think of deviant sex.


Everything makes you think of deviant sex, you deviant, you.
 
2012-05-07 12:36:27 AM  

lordargent: Isildur: The hell you say.

The hell I do



You probably got it, but just to be certain -- I was just jokingly expressing my approval of "EEEAGLLLE".
 
2012-05-07 12:41:31 AM  
Now that we are on the subject of Steampunk, are there any Iron Kingdoms novels or comics? I love the story, and the miniature game, and the fluff is really good (Khador FTW), or at the very least a steampunk comic?.

/Novels, I know there are a few
//The only one I know well is Iron Duke, from Vaginal Fantasy
///It's an hour long, but it's worth it.
 
2012-05-07 12:49:41 AM  

foxbrook78: I have the chopped down stock (almost handgun size), trigger and firing pin half of an old 12 gauge shotgun (from the barrel hinge back) I found years ago in some junk my grandfather had. It would make an awesome base for a steampunk weapon partly because of a little rust patina on the steel and partly because it can be cocked and fired still, but I don't know how to sell it or possess it in public legally, even though whatever crazy brass barrel added to it will not make it into a functional weapon.... Anybody have any ideas?


Yeah, get rid of it you have created a firearm (not technically a shotgun any longer) by making the entire weapon less than 26 inches in length. See 26USC§5845

You owe a $200 tax for making what is termed an AOW (any other weapon). The making of an AOW requires registration with the ATF NFA branch. There are significant penalties for making an AOW whilst not registered. There are severe penalties for posessing an AOW.

The process for licensure for the manufacture of NFA firearms (which yours is) is straight forward. You must complete the required forms, provide your fingerprints for a background check, have your local chief law enforcement officer sign off on your application, pay the required two hundred dollar fee. It is usually turned around in about 45 days.

To transfer the firearm to someone licensed to posses it a five dollar transfer tax must be paid.

If you don't wish to do that, and bear in mind this is not legal advice, I would part it out by removing the stock completely and take it to a gunsmith who can remove the firing mechanism thus rendering it no longer a firearm.

If you take the firearm to a licensee as it is now they will probably report you to the ATF.

You might wish to talk to a local attorney. It is perfectly legal to own a firearm as you describe, but there are a number of hoops to be jumped through. I suspect you are not concerned about having it functional as a firearm but more for its asthetic value. That should be a five minute fix at any gunsmith, but remember don't bring the whole shebang.

/sheBANG
 
2012-05-07 12:53:47 AM  
Also, here's the firearm I was shot with in our steampunk Rocky Horror Show production.

It actually fired a laser too.

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2012-05-07 12:55:55 AM  
Oh, that all sounded a bit severe.

Just have the firing pin removed and then put your nifty new barrel on it.

If you want to be safe you can send it to the ATF and get an opinion letter from the technical branch saying "No this is a steampunk prop not a firearm so don't bug the guy." They may call you up and ask you about it, but they are really nice people and will send it back to you quickly (you have to include postage and you can't actually mail it to them you have to use FedEx or UPS).

They'll probably think it is a cool idea. You can also use the ATF letter if you are bothered by the police, simply show them the ATF letter and you should be unhassled quite quickly.
 
2012-05-07 12:56:32 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: Iceman208481: What's a lolita?

A Lolita is a Corsican singer

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Why is the guitarist giving everyone the finger?
 
2012-05-07 01:10:41 AM  

Ghastly: Also, here's the firearm I was shot with in our steampunk Rocky Horror Show production.

It actually fired a laser too.

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This is why dieselpunk weaponry is more... Functional.
 
2012-05-07 02:10:44 AM  

Tsu-na-mi: The Jami Turman Fan Club:

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.

More accurately, most of the pictures are Gothic Lolita fashion. The Lolita part comes from the Victorian-era little girl / doll clothing style (frills, ribbons, lace, petticoats, bonnets). Think Alice from Through the Looking Glass taken to an extreme. The Gothic part comes in when you combine this style with make-up (dark lipstick and nail colors, pale foundation, excessive eyeliner, etc) and additional fashion elements like leather knee-high platform leather boots, metal rings or chains, corsets, piercings, etc.


So basically Lolita is like Goth but with less S&M and more pedo fantasy?

Ghastly, you got to perform with Dolby? I'm jealous. He's considered one of the forerunners of dieselpunk music, you know. :)

Since we're splashing our steampunk attire around, I suppose I'll play...

www.jonnybgoode.info
(That's a foam boffer sword made to look like a gentleman's cane, for bartitsu practice.)

What I wear at "official" occasions...
www.jonnybgoode.info
(This particular occasion was the grand opening of a museum exhibit in Anaheim; I was on the marketing committee.)
 
2012-05-07 02:16:52 AM  

JonnyBGoode: Tsu-na-mi: The Jami Turman Fan Club:

I don't get why it's called Lolita. Most of it looks very Edwardian to me.

More accurately, most of the pictures are Gothic Lolita fashion. The Lolita part comes from the Victorian-era little girl / doll clothing style (frills, ribbons, lace, petticoats, bonnets). Think Alice from Through the Looking Glass taken to an extreme. The Gothic part comes in when you combine this style with make-up (dark lipstick and nail colors, pale foundation, excessive eyeliner, etc) and additional fashion elements like leather knee-high platform leather boots, metal rings or chains, corsets, piercings, etc.

So basically Lolita is like Goth but with less S&M and more pedo fantasy?

Ghastly, you got to perform with Dolby? I'm jealous. He's considered one of the forerunners of dieselpunk music, you know. :)

Since we're splashing our steampunk attire around, I suppose I'll play...


(That's a foam boffer sword made to look like a gentleman's cane, for bartitsu practice.)

What I wear at "official" occasions...

(This particular occasion was the grand opening of a museum exhibit in Anaheim; I was on the marketing committee.)


How's business been since Col. Qaddafi left us?
 
2012-05-07 02:18:21 AM  

Miss.UnderstoodRedhead:

Wow. You do better at being a woman, than I do. And that's saying a lot, considering I was born with boobs and eyelashes.

:(


Males are actually kind of born with eyelashes, too. If either gender is born with boobs, however, I think maybe there's some sort of hormonal issue there. Are you trying to say you were born a female? Like, with that whole vagina type of thing?
 
2012-05-07 02:32:31 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: How's business been since Col. Qaddafi left us?


Qaddafi, Hitler, Nazi, Warhammer, I've heard them all. But thanks for playing. :p

I actually started with an emulation of a WWI British naval uniform, then since it was intended as parody I crossed it with Curly Howard's character from "You Nazty Spy", and every time I go someplace the outfit gets a little more gaudy. (I haven't put medals down the back like Curly yet, but it's getting to that point soon.)
 
2012-05-07 02:54:18 AM  

JonnyBGoode: AverageAmericanGuy: How's business been since Col. Qaddafi left us?

Qaddafi, Hitler, Nazi, Warhammer, I've heard them all. But thanks for playing. :p

I actually started with an emulation of a WWI British naval uniform, then since it was intended as parody I crossed it with Curly Howard's character from "You Nazty Spy", and every time I go someplace the outfit gets a little more gaudy. (I haven't put medals down the back like Curly yet, but it's getting to that point soon.)


Jesus christ, you even have a scout troop number.

BTW, cheers for Curly reference. If we all could be as forward thinking as The Stooges were in You Natzy Spy...
 
2012-05-07 03:09:02 AM  

JonnyBGoode: What I wear at "official" occasions...


All through the night
As I wept, I packed my explosives...

/noticed the badge ;-)
 
2012-05-07 03:17:20 AM  

Kerr Avon: JonnyBGoode: What I wear at "official" occasions...

All through the night
As I wept, I packed my explosives...

/noticed the badge ;-)


I had to google. That's pretty farking great. I guess I was left behind somewhere.
 
2012-05-07 03:21:23 AM  

Kerr Avon: JonnyBGoode: What I wear at "official" occasions...

All through the night
As I wept, I packed my explosives...

/noticed the badge ;-)


Reminds me a little of Mc 900 Ft Jesus, City Sleeps. Steam punked.
 
2012-05-07 03:38:12 AM  
At least the style is flattering on the bigger girls. They don't have stuff hanging out over some old sweatpants.
 
2012-05-07 03:40:47 AM  

Funk Brothers: Yeah I dress up in lolita fashion from time to time and I'm a guy.
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You don't look happy doing it.
 
2012-05-07 08:09:32 AM  
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2012-05-07 09:12:32 AM  
Adults playing dress-up...and taking it seriously.

I love how Fark never disappoints.
 
2012-05-07 10:01:06 AM  

craig328: Adults playing dress-up...and taking it seriously.

I love how Fark never disappoints.


What really makes it a true Fark thread, is that there's a flamewar on a completely unrelated topic intertwined with it.
 
2012-05-07 10:29:30 AM  

Flab: craig328: Adults playing dress-up...and taking it seriously.

I love how Fark never disappoints.

What really makes it a true Fark thread, is that there's a flamewar on a completely unrelated topic intertwined with it.


The only thing missing that would make it an epic Fark thread is someone dragging politics into it.
 
2012-05-07 10:56:21 AM  

MeltyKiss: At least the style is flattering on the bigger girls. They don't have stuff hanging out over some old sweatpants.


It's "flattering" for them to look like overgrown six-year-olds? And since when are that and sweatpants the only two choices?
 
2012-05-07 12:34:15 PM  
So, my wife was pretty heavily into EGL for a while (to be specific, "OTT Sweet Lolita" which is like Rainbow Bright throwing up a bag of skittles all over a girl) and I have a few observations:

1) The REALLY attractive girls still only barely socialize with the unattractive girls at their meetups. It's like highschool all over again. (To be fair, some of them are still in highschool)
2) If you call it "cosplay" a diminuitive girl dressed like a cupcake will probably cuss you out.
3) The "Good stuff", e.g. brand name dresses, cost retarded amounts of money, but if a girl wears the cheap stuff she is a DIRTY POSUER WHORE.
4) I still have no concept of how so many fat girls manage to squeeze themselves into little japanese dresses made for little japanese people. Someone needs to get Steven Hawking to investigate this.
5) In the same vein as #4 - If you have boobs, and I mean have boobs then this fashion is not for you. My wife is like a UK size 8 below and a size 14 up top and she has busted a 500 dollar dress before with her funbags.
6) Most of the ones I have met are huge perverts. Which is kind of ironic when you think about it.

It's pretty much what you'd expect - essentially a fashion adopted by nerdy weeaboos.Normally, I can't stand guys who act like this, but since it's chicks I guess I cut them some slack because they're cute? It's also probably less annoying than hipsters, so it's got that going for it.
 
2012-05-07 12:39:02 PM  
Thread is worthless without this...

Link

Also, Ghastley
 
2012-05-07 12:47:32 PM  

feckingmorons: Oh, that all sounded a bit severe.

Just have the firing pin removed and then put your nifty new barrel on it.

If you want to be safe you can send it to the ATF and get an opinion letter from the technical branch saying "No this is a steampunk prop not a firearm so don't bug the guy." They may call you up and ask you about it, but they are really nice people and will send it back to you quickly (you have to include postage and you can't actually mail it to them you have to use FedEx or UPS).

They'll probably think it is a cool idea. You can also use the ATF letter if you are bothered by the police, simply show them the ATF letter and you should be unhassled quite quickly.


What exactly can a gunsmith do that I can't? It seems like drilling the pin out and then putting a spot weld over the hole and then grinding the surface flush would make it obviously inoperable without making it look externally hacked up. Once all signs of a firing pin are gone, does the stock length matter?

I get the reasons for ATF certification afterwards (sort of).
 
2012-05-07 01:00:54 PM  
But where are we going to find snow in Mexico for the sad girl pictures?

rayscrap.megatokyo.info/hot
 
2012-05-07 02:31:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [www.blogcdn.com image 600x400]


Daytona Beach-arurrrur
 
2012-05-07 05:43:20 PM  

JonnyBGoode:

Ghastly, you got to perform with Dolby? I'm jealous. He's considered one of the forerunners of dieselpunk music, you know. :)


Known him for jeeze, since the 90s I think. I play accordion on his new album.

Yeah he blends the lines between steam and diesel quite well.
 
2012-05-07 06:04:11 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: But where are we going to find snow in Mexico for the sad girl pictures?

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We don't need no steenking snow.

a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-05-07 06:44:31 PM  
Rule #1: Fat chicks don't look pretty in pink. They look like Petunia Pig.
 
2012-05-07 06:45:26 PM  

dbrunker: Should we tell them that Japan has moved on to Mori [mountain] Girl?


But doesn't "Mori" (presumably 森) mean forest?
 
2012-05-07 07:01:25 PM  

tenton: dbrunker: Should we tell them that Japan has moved on to Mori [mountain] Girl?

But doesn't "Mori" (presumably 森) mean forest?


Like Aokigahara? Not a bad idea.
 
2012-05-07 07:42:17 PM  

foxbrook78: What exactly can a gunsmith do that I can't? It seems like drilling the pin out and then putting a spot weld over the hole and then grinding the surface flush would make it obviously inoperable without making it look externally hacked up.


Oh, sure you could do that. I don't have the mechanical skills or tools necessary, but if you do there is nothing preventing you from doing it. Heck, I'm all for DIY.

Of course if you go to a gunsmith you can talk about guns for half an hour, but oddly some people don't want to do that. Freaks.
 
2012-05-07 07:44:43 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: But where are we going to find snow in Mexico for the sad girl pictures?

[rayscrap.megatokyo.info image 370x511]/hot


It snows in Mexico, not in May, but during the winter it does.
 
2012-05-08 05:51:58 PM  

feckingmorons: Kali-Yuga: Sure, there are plenty of good looking mexican girls, until they hit their early 20's and have had their 6th kid. Then they slowly get fatter and fatter, until they get old enough to start shrinking in stature and become oompa loompas.

I see you've never been to Mexico. I go to Monterrey every few months, and it is full of gorgeous women. It is also full of Museums, universities, hospitals, factories, sports, great restaurants, and a two mile long man made river that I'm not too sure why they made it but you can ride a boat on the Paseo Santa Lucía or dine at any one of the restaurants on it's banks.

About once a year I drive there from Florida through all the towns that you hear such terrible things about. I never had any problems.


I love Mty, but the Zetas have closed down all of the good clubs there. I met my fiance there 5 years ago. Now all of her friends have gone abroad for graduate school (like she did), and it's not the same. However, it's still beautiful, and anyone w/ a college education speaks perfect English (Monterrey Tech teaches in English).
 
2012-05-08 08:49:35 PM  

magicgoo: Miss.UnderstoodRedhead:

Wow. You do better at being a woman, than I do. And that's saying a lot, considering I was born with boobs and eyelashes.

:(

Males are actually kind of born with eyelashes, too. If either gender is born with boobs, however, I think maybe there's some sort of hormonal issue there. Are you trying to say you were born a female? Like, with that whole vagina type of thing?


What I wanted to say was that I was born with tits and eyelashes. I wasn't sure how the Fark filters would treat that. So I phrased as I did.

Did I miss something?
 
2012-05-09 05:52:19 PM  

Miss.UnderstoodRedhead: magicgoo: Miss.UnderstoodRedhead:

Wow. You do better at being a woman, than I do. And that's saying a lot, considering I was born with boobs and eyelashes.

:(

Males are actually kind of born with eyelashes, too. If either gender is born with boobs, however, I think maybe there's some sort of hormonal issue there. Are you trying to say you were born a female? Like, with that whole vagina type of thing?

What I wanted to say was that I was born with tits and eyelashes. I wasn't sure how the Fark filters would treat that. So I phrased as I did.

Did I miss something?


Well, yeah, kind of. I get that you were just creatively saying that you're a chick. But, just a little biological fact: Neither male nor female infants are, "born with boobies/tits." If somebody grows boobs, it typically happens in puberty. Also, eyelashes are also no indication of gender. Guys can have super long lashes, too. That's all.
 
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