Coelacanth: Spoiler!

Question: After Thor and the Hulk take down that flying transport together and Hulk punches Thor off camera, what did the Hulk say?

/Kids in the audience were screaming their lungs out. We couldn't hear.

The Hulk doesn't say anything, he just punches Thor and sneers for a second.

DemonEater: silverflask: Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?

Let me hint a little further.

One meaning of the word "Jossed" is "beloved character killed horribly out of the blue"
See: Buffy's mother, Wash, Paul Ballard

Jenny Callender, Tara, Anya, Reverend Book

thanos! farking thanos!

Fury Pilot: Coelacanth: Spoiler!

Question: After Thor and the Hulk take down that flying transport together and Hulk punches Thor off camera, what did the Hulk say?

/Kids in the audience were screaming their lungs out. We couldn't hear.

The Hulk doesn't say anything, he just punches Thor and sneers for a second.

I think he did make a noise like a grunt or snuffle, don't think he said anything

Exception Collection: Coelacanth: Question: After Thor and the Hulk take down that flying transport together and Hulk punches Thor off camera, what did the Hulk say?

/Kids in the audience were screaming their lungs out. We couldn't hear.

I haven't seen the movie (I don't mind spoilers), but I've heard it's "Puny God" or something close to that.

That is with Loki, not Thor.

Exception Collection: Coelacanth: Question: After Thor and the Hulk take down that flying transport together and Hulk punches Thor off camera, what did the Hulk say?

/Kids in the audience were screaming their lungs out. We couldn't hear.

I haven't seen the movie (I don't mind spoilers), but I've heard it's "Puny God" or something close to that.

Different scene

Raktastic: championgoober: chuggernaught: WienerButt: I noticed all the media in the movie was either CNN or MSNBC. No sign of Fox News.


/cue 'Hollywood Libruls!!!!!!1!!1"
//good movie



Did anyone else noticed the jab to the Bush administration with Fury's line about the some other things that were screwed up recently. Least I am fairly certain that was leveled at Bush Co.


fusillade762: DamnYankees:
Agreed, just saw it about an hour ago. good stuff. But that one scene made the whole theater totally erupt to the point where I missed Hulk's line afterwards. And people clapped at the end, which I haven't seen in a while.



Yup. Hell, I even clapped, felt dumb, but I clapped.

I was the only one who clapped.

My son said 'you are so awkward mom'

Here's the problem I have with clapping at a movie theater, the reason that people should be clapping at the end of a movie is to show your appreciation of the movie to anyone and everyone involved in the making of the film. It makes sense at a play or some form of live performance. So when everyone is clapping I always ask myself "Who are you clapping for?!? Is Josh Whedon going to jump out from behind the screen and give a bow? No!" Just a small pet peeve of mine.

/I showed my appreciation by seeing it a second time

DamnYankees: PsyLord: FTA: That raised the film's worldwide haul to $641.8 million in barely a week and a half

Over half a billion dollars?!?! HOLY....

/doubt Batman nor Spidey will pull these numbers...

TDK made over a billion lost money. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

FTFY

/Studio accounting

imontheinternet: [www.marvunapp.com image 256x400]

A crossover project made money. Looks like movie marketing has finally caught up with comic book marketing from the early 90s.

hey! nick fury is white on that cover!

imontheinternet: [www.marvunapp.com image 256x400]

A crossover project made money. Looks like movie marketing has finally caught up with comic book marketing from the early 90s.

the Jetsons meet the Flintstones was the best crossover project of all time.

Carth: imontheinternet: [www.marvunapp.com image 256x400]

A crossover project made money. Looks like movie marketing has finally caught up with comic book marketing from the early 90s.

the Jetsons meet the Flintstones was the best crossover project of all time.

i dunno. i thought it was kinda cool when the fonz was on laverne and shirley.

Uchiha_Cycliste:
Incidentally, who owns Blade?
Is he Marvel?

I believe Marvel Studios got Blade back not too long ago (and they had a fair amount of involvement- as Marvel- in the previous series, even though they didn't own the film rights then).

Unfortunately, they don't seem to have any plans for him because the trilogy was done well, and they haven't figured out how Blade fits into the Marvel Movie Universe. In order to add Blade, they have to add vampires, and currently that seems a poor fit with the movie universe occupied by Iron Man, Thor, etc. ... Like it's too much.

Marvel Studios also got Punisher back, but after several non-Marvel movies that failed to really make the character shine, they're not in a real hurry to make a new one.

Their most likely plan of action will be to continue with the Hulk (at least one more dedicate movie, plus cameos and Avengers 2), Captain America (guessing 2 more dedicated, plus cameos and Avengers 2), Iron Man (1 more dedicated movie, cameos all over, Avengers 2), Thor (1 more dedicated movie, cameos, and Avengers 2) and the others (possible dedicated Nick Fury film, possible Black Widow/Hawkeye film, etc.)

That will keep them busy for quite a while. That's another four to six years' worth of movies, easily.

Marvel Studios / Disney are trying hard to secure the Fantastic Four from Sony. They want it BAD, and so far they've found no loopholes that would allow them to get it, and Sony's not sure they want to sell them back. I imagine it will be even harder and more expensive now, after the success of the Avengers. Sony execs may well be sitting in a room right now saying "We'll just copy the Avengers' formula for the big Fantastic Four reboot! GENIUS!" and finding no reason whatsoever to give up the FF.

I think Marvel Studios getting the FF and Spider-Man back are essential. However, they will likely NEVER get Spider-Man (Sony fought too hard, paid too much, and makes way too much money to ever let him go, and the contracts grant the rights in perpetuity as long as Sony makes Spider-Man movies).

The FF and Spidey are the center of Marvel. They might get FF back with some legal wrangling, if Sony decides they're just not profitable enough. However, if Marvel wants a Spider-Man in their Marvel Movie Universe, they're going to have to elevate a lesser Marvel character to Spidey's status. They're going to have to tweak a character they DO have the film rights to, and start a new franchise.

I've been saying Speedball would make a decent substitute for Spider-Man/Peter Parker, with a lot of tinkering. It would also be hilarious if Marvel owns Scarlet Spider's rights and could develop him as a film series. Just skip Parker completely, as if he doesn't exist in this universe (which he won't/can't) and go for Ben Reilly as the Peter equivalent. Change some names, pull villains from the corners of the Marvel Universe to replace the Sinister Six, and you're done.

If they could do this, I'd pay to see it.

rickycal78: He says "Puny God"

Which was (IMO) a perfect Whedon touch. It stayed true to the character and was funny as hell.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: MrCheeks: Fun fact, apparently the one theater near me is one of 3 places in the US that has these things.

....you should look at the map on the link you posted

Even more of a fun fact. Thanks for the correction.

/was tired

Watched the mid-credit bit, and the end-of-credit bit... came away quite pleased.

DamnYankees: Carth: kronicfeld: Marvel should wake up every day thanking the universe for the existence of Robert Downey Jr.


Avengers is going to do way broader business than TDKR even without Imax and 3D. The theater today was loaded to the gills with kids as young as six or seven. You're not going to see parents taking young kids to the way darker TDKR.

Not sure I buy this - Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out within weeks of each other, a TDK had a much bigger box office than IM. I don't see why we can't apply the same logic here.

Because TDKR looks plodding, dull, and like more of the same navel-gazing we saw in TDK and BB, and a lot of us who paid to see the first two aren't really jazzed to spend $10 to see what looks like a carbon copy of TDK, but with a much less interesting villain.

See, there's the issue: TDK had The Joker being played by a guy who had just died prior to the film's release. People flocked to see Ledger's last performance as one of DC's most-loved characters.

TDKR has a poor-man's version of Bane, played by someone most people don't go out of their way to see.

TDK had big numbers because of that combination of The Joker and recently-dead Ledger. It won't get anywhere near Avengers, now.

On top of that, I think people have had enough of bleak, dark, gritty heroes. We're bored with Batman growling his lines. We're bored with villains who are more like terrorists than supervillains. We're bored with superheroes that mope.

Which is why Amazing Spider-Man will probably have a good opening weekend, and then word-of-mouth will kill it stone dead. Everyone will say "It's Spider-Man done like The Dark Knight Rises." and that will be enough.

arrr_matey1978: And what else was great... finally, NO LOVE STORY! If nothing else, I hope studio execs realize a movie can be successful with both genders without having to shoehorn in some lame-ass romance plot.

Mewling quim is the new tittysprinkles.

Digitalstrange: DamnYankees: Mad_Radhu: That's not really a valid complaint in a story that features two characters that the people of Scandinavia literally worshipped because of their godlike powers.

This is true, but it still has to be consistent with the story. Everyone was TERRIFIED of Banner because he was not able to control the Hulk. And we're supposed to believe that when that actually comes true, he actually was able to control it the whole time and the fact that he wasn't was merely because this particular time he was being manipulated?

Sorry, that's bad writing.

1 They didn't know he had learned to control it at all. Banner didn't want anyone to know that because they would use it against him

2 He still doesn't have complete control of it anyway.And when it gets out by accident it is mindless destruction.

All of this is still indicative of bad writing (in this instance. the movie was brilliant as a whole). But it was too subtle. I for one suspect there is a deleted scene that covers a bit more of this somewhere.

Saw the movie twice this weekend. First time was brilliant, second time was not so much. Plot holes and weaknesses are on display a bit more. Still loved it, won't see it again.

DemonEater: What got ME about the cards is that Nick Fury went and covered a bunch of perfectly good collectors cards in blood just to get a rise out of his team. WHAT THE fark, MAN, THOSE ARE MINT!

To be fair to Mr Fury, they were near mint, with some slight foxing around the edges.

thought the movie was ok. had alot of good scenes. RDJ and hulk were the whole movie. IMO, capt. america was ok but boring. Black Widow, boring, Thor, Boring. the interaction between capt america and iron man was great, but again RDJ. i will watch it again. but i dont think it was better to replace Star Wars as someone mentioned but to each his own.

Samwise Gamgee: Uchiha_Cycliste: Smelly McUgly: I'm burned out on superhero movies, but I definitely will Netflix this baby. I'm using my free Epix trial to get caught up on Thor and Captain America.

I haven't seen a superhero movie that I loved since Iron Man, which is my favorite of the genre by far, but this has RDJ in it, so it will be at least partially awesome.

Captain America is great, Thor sucked. It sucked bad... really badly. skip it.

It was decent, but Natalie Portman's character shouldn't have been in the film. She dragged the whole thing down. It made no sense that Thor fell in love with her within a day and it somehow changed his entire character.

That, and she was the least believable physicist since Denise Richards in The World Is Not Enough.

It would take more that 24-48 hours for an egotist like Thor to lean humility. They should have written something along the lines that Thor's time on Earth was a lot longer, weeks, months, maybe even years, but for those on Asgard it would appear like he just left. Something like that. I still enjoyed it despite its flaws.

Ditto Captain America. My gripe with that movie was that they should have at least spent sometime showing Cap learning how to be an extraordinary hand to hand combatant. And either he's a born leader and master strategist or he learned that skill quickly be observation in the field and study. Still liked it a lot though.

ZeroCorpse: RoyFokker'sGhost: blackminded: "...flying monkeys."

"I got that! I got that reference!"

/subtly hilarious

For all the awesome action scenes, there was a lot of subtlety in Avengers that changed it from a great film into an excellent film. Every character had subtle yet important changes happen that showed character growth. Even if you hadn't seen any of the other movies, most of the characters (Iron Man, Cap, Hulk, and to some extent Thor) as so much a part of pop culture now that most people have a basis to go off of. And Joss built off that basis and had them grow. Definitely the best comic adaptation movie ever, IMO, and every bit a game changer for cinema as Star Wars was back in '77. For me, Avengers has replaced Star Wars as my favorite movie of all time, and I've been slightly obsessed with Star Wars since I saw it in the theater for it's initial run.

Yes, Joss Whedon is my master now...

Give credit to Zak Penn, too. He co-wrote the story.

And give credit to Jackson, Downey, and company, too. They showed that the right actors can make even the most outrageous idea work. I don't imagine this would have worked half as well if they had cast someone like Megan Fox as Black Widow and Tom Selleck as Tony Stark.

I guess it's just me since no one else in this 400+ thread thinks Jackson was just horribly miscast here. He pulls off the seasoned master spook role about as well as he did with the seasoned master Jedi role. Now he just needs to pull off an appearance as Mance Rayder on GOT and the trifecta would be complete.

Joss does like "interesting" looking women and loves female fight scenes.





















/Who am I forgetting?
//If I was absolute dictator, Joss would be my concubine recruiter.

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Hopefully someone is still reading this thread to help answer a few questions that are gnawing at me:
-Near the end when the Scientist got bonked on the head and recovered from being under control to help black widow disable to portal: Did he really say (or imply) that he wasn't fully under Loki's control and put a fail safe trigger in the device?

-Did Loki really think he messed up when Black Widow found out that he was really after the hulk, when he was locked up in the jail? Seems like a silly slip up for a demi-god who's know for trickery.

-WHY DID LOKI WANT BRUCE TO TURN INTO THE HULK??? I understand Loki wanted to be captured, to be taken to the helocraft, because he knew Bruce was on there. But why? I know to release the hulk, but was he going to try to tame him somehow? He must have known he couldn't. To help him escape? He didn't have to get caught in the first place and he had Hawkeye break him out. Had nothing to do with the cube that I can figure out.

texdent: Browncoat: [www.writeups.org image 500x497]

I would jizz nonstop for days if they brought in this guy.

I don't think they could introduce Adam Warlock that easily and when introduced on screen, a majority of viewers, even some comic fans will be wondering 'who?'.

Actually, Adam Warlock is now part of The Guardians of the Galaxy, and Kevin Feige has been talking them up, hinting they be one of the 2014 Marvel movies.

meanmutton: So, I'm the only one left who hasn't seen it?

Yes. And that makes you less of a person.

Go sit in the basement in shame until you have participated in this piece of pop culture.

UKCoolCat: [SPOILER ALERTS!]



Hopefully someone is still reading this thread to help answer a few questions that are gnawing at me:
-Near the end when the Scientist got bonked on the head and recovered from being under control to help black widow disable to portal: Did he really say (or imply) that he wasn't fully under Loki's control and put a fail safe trigger in the device?

-Did Loki really think he messed up when Black Widow found out that he was really after the hulk, when he was locked up in the jail? Seems like a silly slip up for a demi-god who's know for trickery.

-WHY DID LOKI WANT BRUCE TO TURN INTO THE HULK??? I understand Loki wanted to be captured, to be taken to the helocraft, because he knew Bruce was on there. But why? I know to release the hulk, but was he going to try to tame him somehow? He must have known he couldn't. To help him escape? He didn't have to get caught in the first place and he had Hawkeye break him out. Had nothing to do with the cube that I can figure out.

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1) Either he put a back door in, or simply saw that Loki's design had a weakness.

2) Loki was messing with her and thought he was getting in her head. He got over competent and was gloating. It is why he often fails. Every character has a weakness. Loki's is over confidence.

3) The hulk would take out the flying fortress as well as possible kill on or more avengers. Also, Loki wanted the spectacle of being SEEN taking out the Avengers. He's a show-boater. (and a dick)

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I'm looking forward to a sequel cameo from this guy:

Neums: DamnYankees: Mentalpatient87: Did Hulk really say "puny god?" I thought he said "demigod." As in, "you're not quite a real god, prick, so I know you felt that."

Yes. It's a joke on the Eric Bana movie, where the Hulk's only line in that film is "Puny Human".

Nope, Hulk screamed "Take it! Take it all!" at his father absorbing all the gamma radiation.

There was a scene in the first Hulk movie where Bruce Banner was shaving and had a daydream/hallucination in which the Hulk grabbed him and said "Puny Human."

DamnYankees: Six_By_Nine: Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

I realize that I'm alone in this, but other than this, the thing that I liked was the Maddie-David "Moonlighting" type chemistry and banter that Tony and Pepper had.

Why are you alone on that? I thought everyone liked that.

It also helps that Gwyneth Paltrow has never, NEVER been as attractive as when she's Pepper Potts. For some reason she is absolutely smoking when she's that character, I have no idea why.

I agree with that. she's never done much for me, but in that roll I can't explain it. I just want her.

firegoat: DamnYankees: Six_By_Nine: Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

I realize that I'm alone in this, but other than this, the thing that I liked was the Maddie-David "Moonlighting" type chemistry and banter that Tony and Pepper had.

Why are you alone on that? I thought everyone liked that.

It also helps that Gwyneth Paltrow has never, NEVER been as attractive as when she's Pepper Potts. For some reason she is absolutely smoking when she's that character, I have no idea why.

I agree with that. she's never done much for me, but in that roll I can't explain it. I just want her.



she even takes out the trash

Zombie DJ: When you can make a movie where two of the weakest team members still seemed to stand tall and actually be interesting, you deserve to be there.
A guy who shoots arrows is in league with Iron Man?
"They can't bank for crap."
Oh, ya I can see that now.

Yes, and the high tech bow and quiver setup actually made that character something other then a bad Batman knock off.

I'm a Thor fanboy, but dammit, Hulk stole the show. Ruffalo did an amazing job as Banner too. He was smart and capable, but also nervous and a little weasly, and prone to outbursts. In short, a bubbling cauldron of emotions that Norton and Bana both failed to really harness. I'm excited for the next Hulk movie now, to be honest.

And yeah, we are going to see it again next Sunday. Too freakin' awesome.

ZeroCorpse: DamnYankees: Carth: kronicfeld: Marvel should wake up every day thanking the universe for the existence of Robert Downey Jr.


Avengers is going to do way broader business than TDKR even without Imax and 3D. The theater today was loaded to the gills with kids as young as six or seven. You're not going to see parents taking young kids to the way darker TDKR.

Not sure I buy this - Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out within weeks of each other, a TDK had a much bigger box office than IM. I don't see why we can't apply the same logic here.

Because TDKR looks plodding, dull, and like more of the same navel-gazing we saw in TDK and BB, and a lot of us who paid to see the first two aren't really jazzed to spend $10 to see what looks like a carbon copy of TDK, but with a much less interesting villain.

See, there's the issue: TDK had The Joker being played by a guy who had just died prior to the film's release. People flocked to see Ledger's last performance as one of DC's most-loved characters.

TDKR has a poor-man's version of Bane, played by someone most people don't go out of their way to see.

TDK had big numbers because of that combination of The Joker and recently-dead Ledger. It won't get anywhere near Avengers, now.

On top of that, I think people have had enough of bleak, dark, gritty heroes. We're bored with Batman growling his lines. We're bored with villains who are more like terrorists than supervillains. We're bored with superheroes that mope.

What color is the sky in your world?

SpectroBoy: UKCoolCat: [SPOILER ALERTS!]



Hopefully someone is still reading this thread to help answer a few questions that are gnawing at me:
-Near the end when the Scientist got bonked on the head and recovered from being under control to help black widow disable to portal: Did he really say (or imply) that he wasn't fully under Loki's control and put a fail safe trigger in the device?

-Did Loki really think he messed up when Black Widow found out that he was really after the hulk, when he was locked up in the jail? Seems like a silly slip up for a demi-god who's know for trickery.

-WHY DID LOKI WANT BRUCE TO TURN INTO THE HULK??? I understand Loki wanted to be captured, to be taken to the helocraft, because he knew Bruce was on there. But why? I know to release the hulk, but was he going to try to tame him somehow? He must have known he couldn't. To help him escape? He didn't have to get caught in the first place and he had Hawkeye break him out. Had nothing to do with the cube that I can figure out.

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1) Either he put a back door in, or simply saw that Loki's design had a weakness.

2) Loki was messing with her and thought he was getting in her head. He got over competent and was gloating. It is why he often fails. Every character has a weakness. Loki's is over confidence.

3) The hulk would take out the flying fortress as well as possible kill on or more avengers. Also, Loki wanted the spectacle of being SEEN taking out the Avengers. He's a show-boater. (and a dick)

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Thanks!
1) So it seems Loki's power isn't that great after all, if a scientist can still think on his own, while "under control".

3) Kind of thought maybe that was it. Of course, it brings up the question: I thought the Hulk was pretty much uncontrollable. Cap't America didn't have any problems getting him to listen to orders at all. So they probably could have controlled him in the helocraft.

Smelly McUgly: I'm burned out on superhero movies, but I definitely will Netflix this baby. I'm using my free Epix trial to get caught up on Thor and Captain America.

I haven't seen a superhero movie that I loved since Iron Man, which is my favorite of the genre by far, but this has RDJ in it, so it will be at least partially awesome.

I was of the same mind, but my wife HAD to see it yesterday. It was worth it and I would've sat through it again immediately. It was done VERY well. It was a long movie, but thanks to the timing, it didn't drag. The action wasn't a clusterfark of Michael Bay's in-your-face blurfest or Bayspolosions!!!, and it wasn't hard to keep up with what was going on. It was nice to have laughs and explosions that I didn't have to shut my brain off to enjoy. I'm still not a Ruffalo fan, but he did just fine. It made me consider actually watching Thor.