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2012-05-06 11:52:15 PM  

Carth: e more I think about it, I'm not sure that The Dark Knight Rises doesn't have a shot at topping this, even without the advantage of 3D ticket prices. The Dark Knight made 158.4 million when it opened in 2008. Given that ticket prices have gone up and that TDKR is certainly going to be even bigger than the last film, I think it has a shot at topping 200 million.

It needs to be in more theaters to beat 200 million. TDK opened in 4,366 screen Avengers was in 4,349 but because of 3d beat its per screen average. The most theaters ever was 4,468 (Twilight Eclipse) I think if TDKR is going to beat Avengers it needs a really strong midnight sales and at least 4400 screens.


Keep in mind that Nolan hates digital, and that cuts a number of digital IMAX screens from the equation. He's a film purist, and unless the studio twists his arm to the breaking point, it will only be in film IMAX theatres. That's why the prologue that was attached to Ghost Protocol in IMAX was only in non-digital IMAX screens.

steve_lou: Sarcastica75: i want to be inside of loki.

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Technically, Loki was inhabiting Sif's body at the time, so...
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...yes, please.

ParagonComplex: DamnYankees: Carth: DamnYankees: ZeroCorpse: No, it's not "made up" and there is no flaw in this logic. As I said the last time this was brought up, the very last scene in The Incredible Hulk makes it very clear that Banner has learned to transform at will. The Avengers movie also makes it clear that pain/danger/stress will trigger the transformation against his will (he even says he ate a bullet and the "other guy" spat it out, to spell it out for the audience).

The only thing that didn't make sense was that he'd turn back to Banner after falling out of the sky and crashing through a building. If anything, that should have kept him hulked up.

None of this explains why if the Hulk comes out against his will he isn't able to control his rage. It's not explained at all and doesn't make sense.

I'm guessing we'll get that explanation in the 30 minutes that were cut. They talk about it in the comic and I'd be surprised if Joss wasn't aware of the reasons marvel uses. It isn't really important to the film so it makes sense to get rid of a 5 minutes scene just to explain that point.

It's not a fatal flaw or anything, but its something I certainly thought about while watching.

You people really don't get it, do you? Banner is always angry. He is always in control. He changed on the helicraft because of Loki's magic. You really didn't notice the look Loki gave him when he was escorted into the interrogation room? The headache he got afterwards?


I think that headache was a result of concentrating so hard on keeping the Hulk in check while Loki was manipulating the others. Banner has to focus on not only tracking the Cube, but his mind is getting a constant bombardment from the scepter as he's multitasking and maintaining the wall that prevents him from Hulking out.
 
2012-05-06 11:53:40 PM  

DamnYankees: Mentalpatient87: Did Hulk really say "puny god?" I thought he said "demigod." As in, "you're not quite a real god, prick, so I know you felt that."

Yes. It's a joke on the Eric Bana movie, where the Hulk's only line in that film is "Puny Human".


Nope, Hulk screamed "Take it! Take it all!" at his father absorbing all the gamma radiation.
 
2012-05-06 11:55:12 PM  

Neums: DamnYankees: Mentalpatient87: Did Hulk really say "puny god?" I thought he said "demigod." As in, "you're not quite a real god, prick, so I know you felt that."

Yes. It's a joke on the Eric Bana movie, where the Hulk's only line in that film is "Puny Human".

Nope, Hulk screamed "Take it! Take it all!" at his father absorbing all the gamma radiation.


Hm, i guess i read some misinformation.
 
2012-05-07 12:01:30 AM  
How does DC do what Marvel has?

Superman relaunch - At some point, Superman is stymied by something, and brings in Green Lantern to help him solve a problem using constructs.

Green Lantern 2 - with the bullshiat origin out of the way, we get a real super hero story. At some point, GL crashes from space back to earth, he lands on an all Greek island, and he flies off... only to reveal who was watching him - Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman - She returns in New York. This is the origin story: Metropolis and Gotham are both mentioned, and eventually, goes to Gotham to track a criminal. She meets up with Bruce Wayne, who offers help.

Batman relaunch - Post Nolan, redone much like Hulk to fit into the integrated universe. Less dark then Nolan, not Schumocker. No Origin story here - we know it. In the Batcave we see a green stone- Kryptonite.

The Justice League - Introduced to the Martian Manhunter, he gathers the others.
 
2012-05-07 12:07:17 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: RJames: Uchiha_Cycliste: Smelly McUgly: I'm burned out on superhero movies, but I definitely will Netflix this baby. I'm using my free Epix trial to get caught up on Thor and Captain America.

I haven't seen a superhero movie that I loved since Iron Man, which is my favorite of the genre by far, but this has RDJ in it, so it will be at least partially awesome.

Captain America is great, Thor sucked. It sucked bad... really badly. skip it.

I strongly disagree.

Can you explain to me what you liked about it?
To me it felt... lame. the origin story was ok, but the writing, the acting and the action were all lame. It could have been so much more and fell short by almost being a cliched, watered down version of its potential.


What does everyone else think?


Thor is my favorite Marvel movie. It easily stands up in quality to the others, save some questionable CGI in the opening intro. And its the one that gives me the biggest grins, Though I adore all of these movies.

Though Avengers is, of course, my new favorite.
 
2012-05-07 12:10:25 AM  

flamingboar: I loved the movie but the Bruce Banner/hulk transformation confused me at one point.

/being vague to avoid spoilers.


The ability to turn it on. =/= The ability to turn it off.
 
2012-05-07 12:11:36 AM  

Neums: Technically, Loki was inhabiting Sif's body at the time, so...

...yes, please.


Who is she, pray tell?
 
2012-05-07 12:11:36 AM  

blackminded: DamnYankees: ZeroCorpse: No, it's not "made up" and there is no flaw in this logic. As I said the last time this was brought up, the very last scene in The Incredible Hulk makes it very clear that Banner has learned to transform at will. The Avengers movie also makes it clear that pain/danger/stress will trigger the transformation against his will (he even says he ate a bullet and the "other guy" spat it out, to spell it out for the audience).

The only thing that didn't make sense was that he'd turn back to Banner after falling out of the sky and crashing through a building. If anything, that should have kept him hulked up.

None of this explains why if the Hulk comes out against his will he isn't able to control his rage. It's not explained at all and doesn't make sense.

It's not rage that triggers the uncontrolled transformations, it's pain. Which explains both the "ate a bullet and the other guy spit it out" lines and the almost apologetic look Hulk shoots to Widow after the first transformation. If Banner is caught off guard or in danger, the Jolly Green Giant steps in to run the show.

/full disclosure: I collected Hulk comics for years
//through the Grey Hulk "Mr. Fixit" era
///old


Keizer_Ghidorah: karl2025: Perfect super hero movie. Lots of humor, lots of energy, lots of SFX without being overwhelmed or sickened by it (Looking at you, Transformers!). The characters were played by actors who could really understand their characters and (Better yet) portray their characters in ways that people who didn't grow up with these characters could feel like they understood them.

How else did you expect them to make convincing transforming robots? Guys in suits and stop-motion don't really work for Transformers, especially when they're major characters with lots of screen time.


I think this is the major operator here, and I agree. He's not saying that it shoudl be done without effects, but rather that the frenetic pace of the battles looks like so much metal flying about that you can't make out the actual action, and if you try to focus on it it's literally nauseating.
 
2012-05-07 12:12:35 AM  

meanmutton: So, I'm the only one left who hasn't seen it?


In this thread you're likely in the minority. I wouldn't have come in here for fear of spoilers otherwise.


Mr. Holmes: SharkTrager: Mr. Holmes: jmr61: Still disgusted that more people don't have the brains to see Cabin in the Woods.

Excellent movie.

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90% on RT, with 81% audience approval.

Yeah, that's one obvious troll.

Dunno if you noticed, but everybody in here is talking about Avengers, and how awesome it is. You wanna talk about your H.P. Lovecraft crapfest, don't do it by belittling something I like. Troll is troll.


"Cabin" is tangentially relevant because it's also a Joss Whedon flick. Though I will agree his wording seems needlessly provocative.
 
2012-05-07 12:14:02 AM  

DamnYankees: Also, this might sound especially dumb, but since I'm not a comic book guy, here's one other thing which really started to bother me in the movie - these people were invincible. It was almost impossible for any of them to be injured. Thor, Loki and the Hulk are almost literally invulnerable - they can fall from an airplane or get literally battered around like a ragdoll with no armour at all and nothing bad happens to them. Iron Man is almost as safe when he's in the suit. Captain America can basically only get hurt by being shot.

It sort of hurt the action for me, since the stakes weren't there - nothing could hurt any of them.


Loki and Thor and very tough, very durable, but they aren't invincible (perhaps by human standards) And they can be injured by beings of similar power as we saw. Iron Man's armor is pretty damn tough but Thor was able to crush it in his bare hands. These people certainly can be killed and injured.

The Hulk might come the closest.
 
2012-05-07 12:19:04 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: DamnYankees: vrax: If I were to rank the intro films it would be:

Ironman (best origin story)
Captain America (2nd best origin story)
The Incredible Hulk
Ironman 2
Thor

Oh come on, Thor was better than Ironman 2.

No, i'm with him on this one.


You know, beyond just rating Thor as possibly the least good of the series, it's also the least important compared with the others. As long as you are of at least a certain pretty young age you should know the actual Norse mythology surrounding Thor, Loki and the rest from grade school. Sure, it's fun to see the superhero and related comic book stuff brought to life on the big screen--I enjoyed it--, but if you had never seen the movie you could still see The Avengers and go, "Oh, Thor! Loki! I kind of know how this goes." It's much harder to do that with the rest unless you have followed them elsewhere.
 
2012-05-07 12:20:35 AM  

ronin7: Thor is my favorite Marvel movie. It easily stands up in quality to the others, save some questionable CGI in the opening intro. And its the one that gives me the biggest grins, Though I adore all of these movies.

Though Avengers is, of course, my new favorite.


Thor is my favorite Avenger, and I really liked his movie. But, they should have left in all the deleted Asgard scenes. My wife who had never really read any of the comics didn't really like the movie until she saw them. after each one she was like "oh, well now that makes more sense". I really wish there was a directors cut of Thor a la Daredevil.
 
2012-05-07 12:21:53 AM  

meanmutton: So, I'm the only one left who hasn't seen it?


Nopw, I'm waiting for tomorrow or Wednesday when another member of the family has the day off and we can all go as a group.
 
2012-05-07 12:23:32 AM  

vrax: Uchiha_Cycliste: DamnYankees: vrax: If I were to rank the intro films it would be:

Ironman (best origin story)
Captain America (2nd best origin story)
The Incredible Hulk
Ironman 2
Thor

Oh come on, Thor was better than Ironman 2.

No, i'm with him on this one.

You know, beyond just rating Thor as possibly the least good of the series, it's also the least important compared with the others. As long as you are of at least a certain pretty young age you should know the actual Norse mythology surrounding Thor, Loki and the rest from grade school. Sure, it's fun to see the superhero and related comic book stuff brought to life on the big screen--I enjoyed it--, but if you had never seen the movie you could still see The Avengers and go, "Oh, Thor! Loki! I kind of know how this goes." It's much harder to do that with the rest unless you have followed them elsewhere.


It seems to help explain the Tesseract though. The Thor movie explained that they weren't gods, but closer to an advanced alien civilization with amazing tech, which put the struggle in Captain America into perspective.
 
2012-05-07 12:28:38 AM  

DamnYankees: This is true, but it still has to be consistent with the story. Everyone was TERRIFIED of Banner because he was not able to control the Hulk. And we're supposed to believe that when that actually comes true, he actually was able to control it the whole time and the fact that he wasn't was merely because this particular time he was being manipulated?

Sorry, that's bad writing.


We get it, he's green.
 
2012-05-07 12:33:19 AM  

meanmutton: So, I'm the only one left who hasn't seen it?


I haven't either. I planned all along to see it Monday afternoon.
 
2012-05-07 12:34:35 AM  

unyon: blackminded: DamnYankees: ZeroCorpse: No, it's not "made up" and there is no flaw in this logic. As I said the last time this was brought up, the very last scene in The Incredible Hulk makes it very clear that Banner has learned to transform at will. The Avengers movie also makes it clear that pain/danger/stress will trigger the transformation against his will (he even says he ate a bullet and the "other guy" spat it out, to spell it out for the audience).

The only thing that didn't make sense was that he'd turn back to Banner after falling out of the sky and crashing through a building. If anything, that should have kept him hulked up.

None of this explains why if the Hulk comes out against his will he isn't able to control his rage. It's not explained at all and doesn't make sense.

It's not rage that triggers the uncontrolled transformations, it's pain. Which explains both the "ate a bullet and the other guy spit it out" lines and the almost apologetic look Hulk shoots to Widow after the first transformation. If Banner is caught off guard or in danger, the Jolly Green Giant steps in to run the show.

/full disclosure: I collected Hulk comics for years
//through the Grey Hulk "Mr. Fixit" era
///old

Keizer_Ghidorah: karl2025: Perfect super hero movie. Lots of humor, lots of energy, lots of SFX without being overwhelmed or sickened by it (Looking at you, Transformers!). The characters were played by actors who could really understand their characters and (Better yet) portray their characters in ways that people who didn't grow up with these characters could feel like they understood them.

How else did you expect them to make convincing transforming robots? Guys in suits and stop-motion don't really work for Transformers, especially when they're major characters with lots of screen time.

I think this is the major operator here, and I agree. He's not saying that it shoudl be done without effects, but rather that the frenetic pace of the battles looks like so m ...


Eh, I was able to follow everything fine. I'll admit that the fight scenes got a bit too hand-cam sometimes and the Decepticons needed some color variances, but if Starscream was his gaudy patriotic colors from G1 he'd look goofy instead of threatening.
 
2012-05-07 12:41:56 AM  
The main issue I had with Thor (and it was decent, if nothing else) is that okay, it's a superhero action flick, but you throw in the romance subplot to bring in the stereotypical girlfriends. All well and good, right? Instead, they made the love story the focus of the whole damn movie. This in a movie where the main character is already one long musclebound Nordic shirtless scene. Combine all that with the rather plodding pacing, and the whole feel ended up being more like a bodice-ripper with the occasional fight scene than the supernatural action I signed up for. It was made up for somewhat by the whole "Natalie Portman, of all people, is somehow only the THIRD hottest woman in the movie" thing, but that wasn't anywhere near enough.
 
2012-05-07 12:48:55 AM  

Last Man on Earth: The main issue I had with Thor (and it was decent, if nothing else) is that okay, it's a superhero action flick, but you throw in the romance subplot to bring in the stereotypical girlfriends. All well and good, right? Instead, they made the love story the focus of the whole damn movie. This in a movie where the main character is already one long musclebound Nordic shirtless scene. Combine all that with the rather plodding pacing, and the whole feel ended up being more like a bodice-ripper with the occasional fight scene than the supernatural action I signed up for. It was made up for somewhat by the whole "Natalie Portman, of all people, is somehow only the THIRD hottest woman in the movie" thing, but that wasn't anywhere near enough.


I'm not sure what else they could have done. The point of the movie was to bring Thor literally and figuratively down to earth. That's not going to happen because of his love for puppies. I think that movie was the low point of the Marvel Cinematic Universe though. Too much teeing up for Avengers.
 
2012-05-07 12:52:04 AM  

ronin7: Uchiha_Cycliste: RJames: Uchiha_Cycliste: Smelly McUgly: I'm burned out on superhero movies, but I definitely will Netflix this baby. I'm using my free Epix trial to get caught up on Thor and Captain America.

I haven't seen a superhero movie that I loved since Iron Man, which is my favorite of the genre by far, but this has RDJ in it, so it will be at least partially awesome.

Captain America is great, Thor sucked. It sucked bad... really badly. skip it.

I strongly disagree.

Can you explain to me what you liked about it?
To me it felt... lame. the origin story was ok, but the writing, the acting and the action were all lame. It could have been so much more and fell short by almost being a cliched, watered down version of its potential.


What does everyone else think?

Thor is my favorite Marvel movie. It easily stands up in quality to the others, save some questionable CGI in the opening intro. And its the one that gives me the biggest grins, Though I adore all of these movies.

Though Avengers is, of course, my new favorite.


I agree with you about Avengers =D being my new favorite
 
2012-05-07 12:52:09 AM  

TheManofPA: One thing that got me though was the cards. Knowing they were a lie and knowing Nick Fury's love of just being an a-hole to get the job done, I thought that would mean that the individual involved would have some more scenes later on


What got ME about the cards is that Nick Fury went and covered a bunch of perfectly good collectors cards in blood just to get a rise out of his team. WHAT THE fark, MAN, THOSE ARE MINT!
 
2012-05-07 12:52:25 AM  

fusillade762: DamnYankees: DonkeyDixon: MBK: Semi-SPOILERSSSSSSSS

The first transformation was due to pain. When Hulk senses that Banner is in pain, he comes out to not only protect Bruce, but to protect himself (no Banner, no Hulk). When this happens, Banner can't control the transformation. Hulk is in control.

Second transformation? Bruce reveals that he HAS control over the Hulk under normal circumstances. He can turn to Hulk at will. He's "always angry", meaning he can turn it on (but not so much turning it off).

End Semi-Spoilers

Is the first one canon? I like that explanation better, but after hearing the explanation for the 2nd I'd figured the first was just because he didn't trust anyone and was all pissed off. Figured it would've gone for smash, not kill, if left unchecked.

You're not wrong - it doesn't make sense. MBK's explanation is simply something made up to explain it - its fine to do that, but its a flaw in the film. There's no explanation given.

And that doesn't explain why he's so much more co-operative in his 2nd transformation. Of course not *completely* co-operative, with hilarious results for Thor.

My other minor quibble was the fact that Loki's mind control can be broken by a simple blow to the noggin. And why didn't it work on Tony? I mean that was funny, but I'm not sure I get it.



When pain or danger releases the Hulk it's a mindless beast.When Banner lets him out willingly the Hulk retains some semblance of humanity, IE simple speech and language recognition as well as some temper control but not too much as Thor can tell you.

the spear was a source of cosmic energy that gave Loki the mind control power. Tony's ARC reactor in his chest negates it.
 
2012-05-07 12:53:37 AM  

Wayne 985: vrax: Uchiha_Cycliste: DamnYankees: vrax: If I were to rank the intro films it would be:

Ironman (best origin story)
Captain America (2nd best origin story)
The Incredible Hulk
Ironman 2
Thor

Oh come on, Thor was better than Ironman 2.

No, i'm with him on this one.

You know, beyond just rating Thor as possibly the least good of the series, it's also the least important compared with the others. As long as you are of at least a certain pretty young age you should know the actual Norse mythology surrounding Thor, Loki and the rest from grade school. Sure, it's fun to see the superhero and related comic book stuff brought to life on the big screen--I enjoyed it--, but if you had never seen the movie you could still see The Avengers and go, "Oh, Thor! Loki! I kind of know how this goes." It's much harder to do that with the rest unless you have followed them elsewhere.

It seems to help explain the Tesseract though. The Thor movie explained that they weren't gods, but closer to an advanced alien civilization with amazing tech, which put the struggle in Captain America into perspective.


This is true, but you could have gotten all that (pretty much) from the Captain America movie. Enough, anyways.

Incidentally, who owns Blade?
Is he Marvel?
 
2012-05-07 12:59:22 AM  

blackminded: QUIM


*looks it up*

Damn indeed, so going by all the 'vulgar's and 'taboo's attached to the definitions I'm finding he basically called her a whiny coont? The things you can get away with using somewhat obscure terms.


fusillade762: My other minor quibble was the fact that Loki's mind control can be broken by a simple blow to the noggin. And why didn't it work on Tony? I mean that was funny, but I'm not sure I get it.


The staff's crazy magic works through the heart. Tony's is somewhat inaccessible, what with the miniature reactor sitting in front of it.

/I felt the Whedonisms got a little out of hand every once in a while(One of Coulson's lines, you know the one, comes to mind), but still a pretty damn good movie.
 
2012-05-07 12:59:25 AM  
I liked Blade a lot.
And I'll be honest, besides being badass, it had electronic music in it, which bask in the day I loved but heard so rarely.
 
2012-05-07 01:08:21 AM  

DamnYankees: Mad_Radhu: That's not really a valid complaint in a story that features two characters that the people of Scandinavia literally worshipped because of their godlike powers.

This is true, but it still has to be consistent with the story. Everyone was TERRIFIED of Banner because he was not able to control the Hulk. And we're supposed to believe that when that actually comes true, he actually was able to control it the whole time and the fact that he wasn't was merely because this particular time he was being manipulated?

Sorry, that's bad writing.


1 They didn't know he had learned to control it at all. Banner didn't want anyone to know that because they would use it against him

2 He still doesn't have complete control of it anyway.And when it gets out by accident it is mindless destruction.
 
2012-05-07 01:09:47 AM  
watched it this morning in 3D at AMC at 9:15 for 8 dollars a ticket ... there were only about 20 peeps in the theater ... when I came out the theater was packed and the next showing was sold out!

Loved it!
 
2012-05-07 01:11:03 AM  

alwaysjaded: I REALLY hope that this movie smashes all records just so it will convince Disney to unleash it's full might at Sony and Fox so that Marvel can get the rights back. I would so love to see a Marvel Spiderman/X-Men movie and all the crossovers that would happen. Don't think Disney wouldn't unleash the full might of its lawyers if there was serious money to be made.


I'm hoping that the success of The Avengers at least makes the other studios consider the possibility of cooperating in a huge crossover that is funded and distributed by both studios. There is actually a precedent for this with movies like Titanic which was a team effort between 20th Century Fox and Paramount. They could share production and distribution costs and duties, and if it was a big enough crossover event they could maybe split it up into a multiple movies where one studio releases one part and the other studio handles the conclusion. For example, have the first part of the story released in May and the conclusion released in July. It'd be a huge undertaking to get everyone on the same page, but it could be a good way to tell a HUGE story.
 
2012-05-07 01:19:45 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: Neums


That is Jamie Alexander. She played Sif in Thor. And Jessie on Kyle XY.

And she's hot.
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Like these images

/you're welcome
 
2012-05-07 01:32:23 AM  

TheManofPA: rickycal78: Barricaded Gunman: Mentat: That was the most Joss Whedon scene ever.

Nope. The shwarma restaturant was.

Nah, I'm gonna go with the headcount scene with Loki and Stark.

It was pretty easy to see Joss's influence on the movie, but I'm glad it wasn't over done.

Semi-spoilery:


A) You are missing the most Joss Whedon based scene
B) It wasn't maximum Whedon because it wasn't a girl that it happened to


End semi-spoilery


Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?

Please
 
2012-05-07 01:50:30 AM  

silverflask: Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?


Let me hint a little further.

One meaning of the word "Jossed" is "beloved character killed horribly out of the blue"
See: Buffy's mother, Wash, Paul Ballard
 
2012-05-07 01:52:23 AM  

saintstryfe: Green Lantern 2 - with the bullshiat origin out of the way, we get a real super hero story. At some point, GL crashes from space back to earth, he lands on an all Greek island, and he flies off... only to reveal who was watching him - Wonder Woman.


Wouldn't work.

No man may set foot upon Themyscira. Any man who does is to be killed immediately. And yes, Princess Diana would kill them as well.

If GL flew away before they could kill him, they would chase him and kill him.

Even Superman floats above the land when visiting Themyscira.
 
2012-05-07 01:52:28 AM  

DemonEater: TheManofPA: One thing that got me though was the cards. Knowing they were a lie and knowing Nick Fury's love of just being an a-hole to get the job done, I thought that would mean that the individual involved would have some more scenes later on

What got ME about the cards is that Nick Fury went and covered a bunch of perfectly good collectors cards in blood just to get a rise out of his team. WHAT THE fark, MAN, THOSE ARE MINT!


!!!SPOILERS!!!

If he's not actually dead, as has been speculated (and bolstered by the fact that the actor apparently has a contract for more Marvel movies), Coulson's going to be PISSED.

End spoilers.

And I got a Thor jones last night in anticipation of seeing the movie that made me pick up Sandman SoM again.

www.essexterror.com

Go ahead, rub his hammer. It gets bigger.
 
2012-05-07 01:53:41 AM  

DemonEater: silverflask: Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?

Let me hint a little further.

One meaning of the word "Jossed" is "beloved character killed horribly out of the blue"
See: Buffy's mother, Wash, Paul Ballard


He will be Avenged.
 
2012-05-07 01:59:47 AM  

nekulor: DemonEater: silverflask: Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?

Let me hint a little further.

One meaning of the word "Jossed" is "beloved character killed horribly out of the blue"
See: Buffy's mother, Wash, Paul Ballard

He will be Avenged.


And hopefully will eventually get his cards signed.
 
2012-05-07 02:03:28 AM  

DamnYankees: Neums: DamnYankees: Mentalpatient87: Did Hulk really say "puny god?" I thought he said "demigod." As in, "you're not quite a real god, prick, so I know you felt that."

Yes. It's a joke on the Eric Bana movie, where the Hulk's only line in that film is "Puny Human".

Nope, Hulk screamed "Take it! Take it all!" at his father absorbing all the gamma radiation.

Hm, i guess i read some misinformation.


Nope. DY you are correct, there is a crazy hallucination scene where Bana is looking through a mirror and the Hulk says "Puny Human" and grabs him through the mirror.

Also, Can You Take Me High Enough?

/It's been stuck in my head ever since I saw your name
 
2012-05-07 02:12:32 AM  

DemonEater: TheManofPA: One thing that got me though was the cards. Knowing they were a lie and knowing Nick Fury's love of just being an a-hole to get the job done, I thought that would mean that the individual involved would have some more scenes later on

What got ME about the cards is that Nick Fury went and covered a bunch of perfectly good collectors cards in blood just to get a rise out of his team. WHAT THE fark, MAN, THOSE ARE MINT!


Hes Fury, they are probably practically worthless 1996 reprints put out by comic book company (The In Universe Marvel no doubt!)
 
2012-05-07 02:14:50 AM  
just found this:
4 min's of hulk vs loki
ROFLMAO
 
2012-05-07 02:16:11 AM  

DamnYankees: Also, this might sound especially dumb, but since I'm not a comic book guy, here's one other thing which really started to bother me in the movie - these people were invincible. It was almost impossible for any of them to be injured. Thor, Loki and the Hulk are almost literally invulnerable - they can fall from an airplane or get literally battered around like a ragdoll with no armour at all and nothing bad happens to them. Iron Man is almost as safe when he's in the suit. Captain America can basically only get hurt by being shot.

It sort of hurt the action for me, since the stakes weren't there - nothing could hurt any of them.


If all of humanity is killed, do you think Thor would count that as a win even if he himself did not get hurt?
 
2012-05-07 02:36:58 AM  

Zombie DJ: Can I also just say:

BLESS YOU JOSS WHEDON FOR NOT HAVING US SIT THROUGH 20 MINUTES OF ORIGIN STORY.


The whole movie was an origin story. The origin of... The Avengers. You know, who the movie was about? All the individual movies that came out were also origin movies. How did you miss this?
 
2012-05-07 03:22:47 AM  

Carth: Mentat: BroVinny: I can get behind this, provided the director understands that Howard the Duck (the comic) was intended to satirize the genre. Now that we've had this new age of great (and some not-so-great) comic book movie-making, there's plenty out there to satirize. I'm not sure what the director of 1986's movie version intended; I'm not even sure he knew.

(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)

If there was ever a time for a Deadpool movie, this is it.

You'll have to wait 2 more years Too bad 20th Century Fox is involved.


I hope IMDB indicating Liefeld as the writer is just falling back on 'who created this character' info.

/chimichanga
 
2012-05-07 03:25:47 AM  

saintstryfe: How does DC do what Marvel has?

Superman relaunch - At some point, Superman is stymied by something, and brings in Green Lantern to help him solve a problem using constructs.

Green Lantern 2 - with the bullshiat origin out of the way, we get a real super hero story. At some point, GL crashes from space back to earth, he lands on an all Greek island, and he flies off... only to reveal who was watching him - Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman - She returns in New York. This is the origin story: Metropolis and Gotham are both mentioned, and eventually, goes to Gotham to track a criminal. She meets up with Bruce Wayne, who offers help.

Batman relaunch - Post Nolan, redone much like Hulk to fit into the integrated universe. Less dark then Nolan, not Schumocker. No Origin story here - we know it. In the Batcave we see a green stone- Kryptonite.

The Justice League - Introduced to the Martian Manhunter, he gathers the others.


Is this going to be filmed using an iPad camera, and that's why Flash isn't on the team?

And no love for Cameron's Aquaman, starring Vincent Chase?!

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-05-07 03:26:36 AM  
Had to decide between The Avengers or The Cabin In The Woods. Went with the second option and was thoroughly blown away.
 
2012-05-07 03:36:55 AM  

Qaiwolf: Carth: Mentat: BroVinny: I can get behind this, provided the director understands that Howard the Duck (the comic) was intended to satirize the genre. Now that we've had this new age of great (and some not-so-great) comic book movie-making, there's plenty out there to satirize. I'm not sure what the director of 1986's movie version intended; I'm not even sure he knew.

(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)

If there was ever a time for a Deadpool movie, this is it.

You'll have to wait 2 more years Too bad 20th Century Fox is involved.

I hope IMDB indicating Liefeld as the writer is just falling back on 'who created this character' info.

/chimichanga


It is. The screenplay was written by Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick (the guys behind Zombieland), and was leaked over a year ago, before legal action managed to erase it from the interwebs.
 
2012-05-07 03:42:33 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: TheManofPA: One thing that got me though was the cards. Knowing they were a lie and knowing Nick Fury's love of just being an a-hole to get the job done, I thought that would mean that the individual involved would have some more scenes later on

very much THIS. I was convinced that we'd see that character again.


That's classic Whedon though, more so than any other scene out there. When that character meets their fate, their death has a purpose, for the audience. It's a character that's been around for a while and it raises the stakes. The audience is made to think that if that character can die, any character can die.

That doesn't work as well in this movie, because everyone and their brother knows that all these characters have sequels to attend to.

It's what Whedon did in Serenity with Book and then Wash. When Wash goes down right towards the end, your first thought is "Oh Shiat! No one is going to make it!"

That was the most Whedon scene in the movie, more than any other, hands down.
 
2012-05-07 04:46:42 AM  

Raktastic: DamnYankees: Neums: DamnYankees: Mentalpatient87: Did Hulk really say "puny god?" I thought he said "demigod." As in, "you're not quite a real god, prick, so I know you felt that."

Yes. It's a joke on the Eric Bana movie, where the Hulk's only line in that film is "Puny Human".

Nope, Hulk screamed "Take it! Take it all!" at his father absorbing all the gamma radiation.

Hm, i guess i read some misinformation.

Nope. DY you are correct, there is a crazy hallucination scene where Bana is looking through a mirror and the Hulk says "Puny Human" and grabs him through the mirror.

Also, Can You Take Me High Enough?

/It's been stuck in my head ever since I saw your name


My bad, yeah, you're right. But that's not his only line, as DY was stating. That's what I was getting at.
 
2012-05-07 04:48:16 AM  

kronicfeld: Marvel should wake up every day thanking the universe for the existence of Robert Downey Jr.


Amen, brother.

He was, I think, the absolute best part of the movie.

I was a fan of IRON MAN from my earliest days, and while Downey's portrayal
of Stark is a bit more flip & jokey than I remember him being in the comics, he
definitely captured the essence of Tony Stark better than anyone could have
ever hoped to.
 
2012-05-07 06:40:20 AM  
Loki seemed like a weak bad guy to me. Didn't necessarily seem like someone it would take an entire team of heroes to take down. It was a good movie, but I'm not going to call it the best comic book movie.
 
2012-05-07 07:03:24 AM  

DemonEater: silverflask: Email me telling me what the scene was, you bastard! I just got home from seeing it and, of course, loved it. But I haven't seen Whedon material beyond this. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?

Let me hint a little further.

One meaning of the word "Jossed" is "beloved character killed horribly out of the blue"
See: Buffy's mother, Wash, Paul Ballard


A perspective death happens in 99.9% of all super hero movies, so I think Joss gets a pass for using a cliche. I was expecting it, but hoped it would be someone else.
 
2012-05-07 07:08:12 AM  
Spoiler!

Question: After Thor and the Hulk take down that flying transport together and Hulk punches Thor off camera, what did the Hulk say?

/Kids in the audience were screaming their lungs out. We couldn't hear.
 
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