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2012-05-06 08:27:17 PM  
I thought it was Iron Man that told him to smash, not Captain America?
 
2012-05-06 08:29:56 PM  

DamnYankees: sure haven't: Forget just super heroes, this movie is how you do an action-adventure movie well. Intelligently written, "believable" action, etc. Just utterly fantastic.

Maybe I'm truly insane, but I can think of movies from each of the past five years which have been better action-adventure movies than the Avengers.

2011 - Captain America
2010 - Kick Ass
2009 - Star Trek
2008 - Iron Man

Yes, I genuinely think those were all better than The Avengers. Flame away.


Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

Honestly, that middle 45 minutes or so in Iron Man is my favorite thing about any superhero movie ever. How could you not root for Tony after he was all charismatic when working on his suit? Plus him watching the reports about the Ten Rings on television while angrily hammering his armor flat is just awesome.
 
2012-05-06 08:31:35 PM  

Arachnophobe: Serial: PepperFreak: Wasn't surprised to see Pepper Potts barefoot.
We're talking Whedon, here, folks, and that man has a serious foot fetish.

Are you kidding? Other than her walking around in her apartment barefoot (with no foot close-ups) gives you the impression he's a foot fetishist?

There's only one major director with a serious foot fetish in Hollywood.. and that's Tarantino.

Well, there was the closeup on Black Widow's feet after her interrogation scene. In those slightly torn stockings.

/not a foot fetishist, but still, yowza.


I really wish she had the acting chops to go with her looks. She was okay in the movie but only because her character is a fairly emotionless assassin.
 
2012-05-06 08:31:35 PM  

Wolfman Johnny: I thought it was Iron Man that told him to smash, not Captain America?


I can confirm: it was Cap.
 
2012-05-06 08:37:04 PM  

wjllope: Bhasayate: Galaga?

As someone that went to a video game arcade a few times per week during my lunch break in high school in the early 80's, I loved that bit (the reference, and the game).

It must've been a 'WTH?!?' moment for most of the audience: "What's that? Why isn't he playing skyrim?"


I played it, too, and I liked that scene. And still it was WTF!
 
2012-05-06 08:38:21 PM  

Shaunn: Wayne 985: Just saw Thor and Captain America for the first time yesterday, so I'll be seeing The Avengers either tonight or tomorrow. Is 3D worth it or should I just stick with the standard version?

Stick to standard. You won't be missing much and saving a couple of bucks.


Seconded. (Although in my case, I get a headache from watching 3D. Maybe I'm the one with a problem here...)
 
2012-05-06 08:38:50 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: BroVinny: Keizer_Ghidorah: Should also have a Marvel / DC crossover movie at some point.

That would require DC getting their act together, filmmaking-wise. Trotting out a new Batman movie every three years or so, no matter how brilliant, isn't going to cut it.

Also I'd want Marvel to bring all their licenses back in-house before such cross-pollenation were attempted.

Once all that's taken care of, bring on Lobo the Duck!!!

[www.marvunapp.com image 460x366]

You know who I want to see make a comeback?

[www.samruby.com image 250x366]

Yeah, his first movie was a dud (but I find it a guilty pleasure), but I always liked the idea and story behind him. Plus he's somewhat of an asshole while being a hero, we can all get behind that.

/was pissed that Howard wasn't in Marvel vs Capcom 3, Rocket Raccoon is cool and all, but Howard would have been so much better.


I can get behind this, provided the director understands that Howard the Duck (the comic) was intended to satirize the genre. Now that we've had this new age of great (and some not-so-great) comic book movie-making, there's plenty out there to satirize. I'm not sure what the director of 1986's movie version intended; I'm not even sure he knew.

(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)
 
2012-05-06 08:39:54 PM  

flamingboar: Out of curiosity, what made them better to you?


Well it's obviously going to be different for each one, but I think what they share is better pacing, character development and narrative arc.
 
2012-05-06 08:40:14 PM  
I really loved this movie. One of the things that I noticed was the visual pacing. I could almost see this movie being a multi-issue story arc. There were times that the editing seemed very much like the last panel of a book, then picked back up as the next book would. All credit goes to Whedon for this movie
 
2012-05-06 08:41:28 PM  

Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

Honestly, that middle 45 minutes or so in Iron Man is my favorite thing about any superhero movie ever. How could you not root for Tony after he was all charismatic when working on his suit? Plus him watching the reports about the Ten Rings on television while angrily hammering his armor flat is just awesome.


Absolutely. What I also love about it is that compared to almost every other origin story, it's so 'active'. Our character is CHOOSING to do these things, to make himself into this thing, completely aware of what he is doing. The only other character who does that is Bruce Wayne, and he's not as funny.
 
2012-05-06 08:44:36 PM  

DamnYankees: JosephFinn: That and the $10 proved that Chris Evans can do comedy. Well, that and Not Another Teen Movie, an under rated spoof.

He was also funny in Scott Pilgrim.


LATTE! Yeah, I forgot that one for some reason.
 
2012-05-06 08:46:09 PM  

wjllope: SilentStrider: Only one problem I had with that scene. The theater lauged so loud I missed Hulk's followup line.

you know it now right?


yes, my wife googled it after we left the theater, and tvtropes confirmed it.
But missing the line gives us a good excuse to go back and see it again.
 
2012-05-06 08:46:13 PM  

chuggernaught: blackminded: chuggernaught: if it's all the same to you, I'll take that drink now.

Tom Hiddleston farking OWNED the role of Loki. THAT is what I want to see in a supervillain with enough badassery to necessitate the formation of a supergroup.

"You MEWLING QUIM!"

/I said "Daaaaaamn!" aloud at that part
//possibly because I know what "quim" means

Same, he said it and I instantly thought, will he say something different in the British release? Doubt many people in the theater was aware they just heard a naughty slang term.


I checked British bloggers and apparently it's in the British release (they consider it pretty archaic so it's not an issue).
 
2012-05-06 08:46:41 PM  
As a true Whedonite it is great to see the Whedon love:)
 
2012-05-06 08:49:24 PM  

BroVinny: Keizer_Ghidorah: BroVinny: Keizer_Ghidorah: Should also have a Marvel / DC crossover movie at some point.

That would require DC getting their act together, filmmaking-wise. Trotting out a new Batman movie every three years or so, no matter how brilliant, isn't going to cut it.

Also I'd want Marvel to bring all their licenses back in-house before such cross-pollenation were attempted.

Once all that's taken care of, bring on Lobo the Duck!!!

[www.marvunapp.com image 460x366]

You know who I want to see make a comeback?

[www.samruby.com image 250x366]

Yeah, his first movie was a dud (but I find it a guilty pleasure), but I always liked the idea and story behind him. Plus he's somewhat of an asshole while being a hero, we can all get behind that.

/was pissed that Howard wasn't in Marvel vs Capcom 3, Rocket Raccoon is cool and all, but Howard would have been so much better.

I can get behind this, provided the director understands that Howard the Duck (the comic) was intended to satirize the genre. Now that we've had this new age of great (and some not-so-great) comic book movie-making, there's plenty out there to satirize. I'm not sure what the director of 1986's movie version intended; I'm not even sure he knew.

(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)


I have no idea, either. It had, like, three different stories that could have all been the main plot of separate movies, Howard hardly ever acted like his snarky comic self, and the Dark Overlord was cool but wasted. Of course, it was the 80's, that wonderfully weird time for movies.

I would pay out my nose for a She-Hulk movie, partly to see a nine-foot green Amazon hottie on the big screen and partly to see how the studios would do her fourth wall-breaking antics.
 
2012-05-06 08:50:31 PM  

alwaysjaded: I wonder if Ed Norton is on suicide watch right now?

Loved it, will see it again. Now, bring on TDKR.


He's not nearly depressed as Emily Blunt, who would have been Black Widow had it not been for a prior commitment to be in the cinematic abortion that was Gulliver's Travels.
 
2012-05-06 08:51:44 PM  
I saw the first showing in morning on Saturday, figuring the theater wouldn't have many people in it. To my surprise it was a third filled. I still caught all the lines, "Puny god." During the pre-credit scene where Loki's making the deal with the aliens, thought to myself. Hmmm..who could possibly be a bigger bad than Loki in the Marvel Universe that's an alien. Discounting the celestials, and the universal gods, I thought well that leaves one character. Was happy to see I was right. I did think to myself, other than a comic book geek who's going to know who he is? I don't want to spoil anything for those who didn't see it so I'll stop here.
 
2012-05-06 08:54:17 PM  

chuggernaught: WienerButt: I noticed all the media in the movie was either CNN or MSNBC. No sign of Fox News.


/cue 'Hollywood Libruls!!!!!!1!!1"
//good movie

Did anyone else noticed the jab to the Bush administration with Fury's line about the some other things that were screwed up recently. Least I am fairly certain that was leveled at Bush Co.


fusillade762: DamnYankees:
Agreed, just saw it about an hour ago. good stuff. But that one scene made the whole theater totally erupt to the point where I missed Hulk's line afterwards. And people clapped at the end, which I haven't seen in a while.

Yup. Hell, I even clapped, felt dumb, but I clapped.


I was the only one who clapped.

My son said 'you are so awkward mom'
 
2012-05-06 08:55:29 PM  

BroVinny:
(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)


I'm still waiting for a Squirrel Girl movie. Probably not going to happen though, since there's no way to find a villain that would stand a chance against her.
 
2012-05-06 08:57:18 PM  
Though with all the nameless SHIELD personnel, they could have at least given a few names to further tie into the the Marvel verse.
 
2012-05-06 08:58:49 PM  

Smelly McUgly:
Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

Honestly, that middle 45 minutes or so in Iron Man is my favorite thing about any superhero movie ever. How could you not root for Tony after he was all charismatic when working on his suit? Plus him watching the reports about the Ten Rings on television while angrily hammering his armor flat is just awesome.


I'd agree with that. He gets a layer of enjoyment and pleasure out of it that few heroes show. Typically, they range from the boy scout without much more characterization at all to the grim, gritty, brooding "oh why must I do this" type. Spider-man and this incarnation of Iron Man are the only ones who really get to have FUN with using their power, and Spidey is hindered by the fact that his story is never really allowed to leave high school in movies. As such, he's always a kid when we see him. Tony is a fully grown man, runs his own company, highly intelligent, a bit immature, and he's just built himself a suit that lets him fly and shoot lasers out of his hands. He's like a kid with a new toy, and he wants to go play in the sky for a while. Add in the takes-no-crap-from-anyone, compulsive-wiseass factor, and you've got one of the most relatable heroes out there. The fact that he chose to gain his power rather than a freak accident is just the icing.
 
2012-05-06 09:01:43 PM  
I want a Justice League movie, now that would be farking awesome.
 
2012-05-06 09:01:44 PM  

DamnYankees: sure haven't: Forget just super heroes, this movie is how you do an action-adventure movie well. Intelligently written, "believable" action, etc. Just utterly fantastic.

Maybe I'm truly insane, but I can think of movies from each of the past five years which have been better action-adventure movies than the Avengers.

2011 - Captain America
2010 - Kick Ass
2009 - Star Trek
2008 - Iron Man

Yes, I genuinely think those were all better than The Avengers. Flame away.


I liked them all a lot. But, you are wrong. Sorry about that.
 
2012-05-06 09:02:07 PM  

NeoCortex42: BroVinny:
(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)

I'm still waiting for a Squirrel Girl movie. Probably not going to happen though, since there's no way to find a villain that would stand a chance against her.


Wolverine Takes On Iron Fist And...Squirrel Girl?!
 
2012-05-06 09:02:11 PM  
Finally saw it yesterday and think I'll go again next week. It may very well be my favorite superhero film so far.

Yea, Hulk stole the show.
 
2012-05-06 09:02:49 PM  
It was an ok popcorn flick. Ive seen a few better comic movies though.
 
2012-05-06 09:03:00 PM  

9beers: I want a Justice League movie, now that would be farking awesome.


Yes, it would be awesome, but you would have to go with a version of the team that isn't overpowered.
 
2012-05-06 09:05:59 PM  
I went to the movie not a fan of the Hulk. I left as a fan of the Hulk. I want to see anoter Hulk movie!
 
2012-05-06 09:06:58 PM  

Mad_Radhu:

He's not nearly depressed as Emily Blunt, who would have been Black Widow had it not been for a prior commitment to be in the cinematic abortion that was Gulliver's Travels.


Oh yeah, that is much worse. I retract my original snark.

I REALLY hope that this movie smashes all records just so it will convince Disney to unleash it's full might at Sony and Fox so that Marvel can get the rights back. I would so love to see a Marvel Spiderman/X-Men movie and all the crossovers that would happen. Don't think Disney wouldn't unleash the full might of its lawyers if there was serious money to be made.

i881.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-06 09:08:40 PM  

texdent: Yes, it would be awesome, but you would have to go with a version of the team that isn't overpowered.


Superman
Batman
Flash
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
 
2012-05-06 09:10:11 PM  

4seasons85!: I went to the movie not a fan of the Hulk. I left as a fan of the Hulk. I want to see anoter Hulk movie!


I liked this Banner more than the 2008 Banner. The new guy was amazing.
 
2012-05-06 09:16:47 PM  

Sargun: 4seasons85!: I went to the movie not a fan of the Hulk. I left as a fan of the Hulk. I want to see anoter Hulk movie!

I liked this Banner more than the 2008 Banner. The new guy was amazing.


Ruffalo did an awesome job. I thought I'd miss Norton, but I absolutely didn't.
 
2012-05-06 09:19:17 PM  

WienerButt: I noticed all the media in the movie was either CNN or MSNBC. No sign of Fox News.

/cue 'Hollywood Libruls!!!!!!1!!1"
//good movie


I noticed that, too. I remarked to the friend I was sitting with that if Fox had covered the devastation they would have found some way to blame Obama.
 
2012-05-06 09:20:44 PM  
The more I think about it, I'm not sure that The Dark Knight Rises doesn't have a shot at topping this, even without the advantage of 3D ticket prices. The Dark Knight made 158.4 million when it opened in 2008. Given that ticket prices have gone up and that TDKR is certainly going to be even bigger than the last film, I think it has a shot at topping 200 million.
 
2012-05-06 09:21:45 PM  

Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.


I realize that I'm alone in this, but other than this, the thing that I liked was the Maddie-David "Moonlighting" type chemistry and banter that Tony and Pepper had.
 
2012-05-06 09:23:54 PM  

vrax: Sargun: 4seasons85!: I went to the movie not a fan of the Hulk. I left as a fan of the Hulk. I want to see anoter Hulk movie!

I liked this Banner more than the 2008 Banner. The new guy was amazing.

Ruffalo did an awesome job. I thought I'd miss Norton, but I absolutely didn't.


Agreed! Ruffalo did a great job. I thought going in it was a mistake to replace Norton but turns out it was a great decision!
 
2012-05-06 09:25:00 PM  

JosephFinn: We're seeing it again on Wednesday. Partially just to see Hulk respond to Loki in just the right way.


Yes! The theater I was in was cheering, the best moment in a movie chock full of best moments.

The way I felt leaving the theater after The Avengers was how I wanted to feel after The Phantom Menace.

It set a new high water mark for superhero movies. Your move, Mr. Wayne
 
2012-05-06 09:25:48 PM  

Six_By_Nine: Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

I realize that I'm alone in this, but other than this, the thing that I liked was the Maddie-David "Moonlighting" type chemistry and banter that Tony and Pepper had.


Why are you alone on that? I thought everyone liked that.

It also helps that Gwyneth Paltrow has never, NEVER been as attractive as when she's Pepper Potts. For some reason she is absolutely smoking when she's that character, I have no idea why.
 
2012-05-06 09:26:23 PM  

CapnPlaty: The way I felt leaving the theater after The Avengers was how I wanted to feel after The Phantom Menace.


How dare you make me think about TPM.
 
2012-05-06 09:29:48 PM  

9beers: The more I think about it, I'm not sure that The Dark Knight Rises doesn't have a shot at topping this, even without the advantage of 3D ticket prices. The Dark Knight made 158.4 million when it opened in 2008. Given that ticket prices have gone up and that TDKR is certainly going to be even bigger than the last film, I think it has a shot at topping 200 million.


It needs to be in more theaters to beat 200 million. TDK opened in 4,366 screen Avengers was in 4,349 but because of 3d beat its per screen average. The most theaters ever was 4,468 (Twilight Eclipse) I think if TDKR is going to beat Avengers it needs a really strong midnight sales and at least 4400 screens.
 
2012-05-06 09:30:09 PM  

DamnYankees: DonkeyDixon: MBK: Semi-SPOILERSSSSSSSS

The first transformation was due to pain. When Hulk senses that Banner is in pain, he comes out to not only protect Bruce, but to protect himself (no Banner, no Hulk). When this happens, Banner can't control the transformation. Hulk is in control.

Second transformation? Bruce reveals that he HAS control over the Hulk under normal circumstances. He can turn to Hulk at will. He's "always angry", meaning he can turn it on (but not so much turning it off).

End Semi-Spoilers

Is the first one canon? I like that explanation better, but after hearing the explanation for the 2nd I'd figured the first was just because he didn't trust anyone and was all pissed off. Figured it would've gone for smash, not kill, if left unchecked.

You're not wrong - it doesn't make sense. MBK's explanation is simply something made up to explain it - its fine to do that, but its a flaw in the film. There's no explanation given.


And that doesn't explain why he's so much more co-operative in his 2nd transformation. Of course not *completely* co-operative, with hilarious results for Thor.

My other minor quibble was the fact that Loki's mind control can be broken by a simple blow to the noggin. And why didn't it work on Tony? I mean that was funny, but I'm not sure I get it.
 
2012-05-06 09:33:13 PM  

fusillade762:
And why didn't it work on Tony? I mean that was funny, but I'm not sure I get it.


static.flickr.com
 
2012-05-06 09:33:31 PM  

jagabaya: NeoCortex42: BroVinny:
(Actually, it'd be kind of neat to bring together a team of Marvel's oddball characters, like Howard, Rocket Raccoon, Slapstick, She-Hulk (who can see through fourth walls), etc.)

I'm still waiting for a Squirrel Girl movie. Probably not going to happen though, since there's no way to find a villain that would stand a chance against her.

Wolverine Takes On Iron Fist And...Squirrel Girl?!


Inspired by this, I went and read that issue on MCDU. She kicks ass!
 
2012-05-06 09:37:24 PM  

Six_By_Nine: Smelly McUgly: Iron Man was great precisely because I think the writers realized that it would be hard to root for a superhero whose facial expressions are hidden by a mask, so they spent a large chunk of the movie developing Tony as a likable, if immature guy with all the suit-building and testing scenes.

I realize that I'm alone in this, but other than this, the thing that I liked was the Maddie-David "Moonlighting" type chemistry and banter that Tony and Pepper had.


Never saw Moonlighting, so you might be alone in the comparison, but I definitely loved the way she could keep up with him without missing a beat. One of the things that's defined every successful relationship I've ever had is that my gf was at least as big a wiseass as me. If a woman doesn't have enough fire to give me shiat when I've got it coming, and enough creativity at it to make me smile/laugh when she does, it won't last. Submissiveness just bores the everloving crap out of me. As a result, she helped Stark's characterization at least as much as establishing her own character. With someone as highly-intelligent, quick-tongued, and easily-bored as Stark is depicted, anything less in his love interest would just ring hollow, and that addition made it one of the most realistic movie sparks I've ever seen.
 
2012-05-06 09:38:22 PM  

4seasons85!: vrax: Sargun: 4seasons85!: I went to the movie not a fan of the Hulk. I left as a fan of the Hulk. I want to see anoter Hulk movie!

I liked this Banner more than the 2008 Banner. The new guy was amazing.

Ruffalo did an awesome job. I thought I'd miss Norton, but I absolutely didn't.

Agreed! Ruffalo did a great job. I thought going in it was a mistake to replace Norton but turns out it was a great decision!


You know, I finally caught The Incredible Hulk this afternoon and I like what Norton was going for. Pretty solid movie, but man the effects for Hulk just look pitiful compared to Avengers.
 
2012-05-06 09:39:33 PM  

DamnYankees: It also helps that Gwyneth Paltrow has never, NEVER been as attractive as when she's Pepper Potts. For some reason she is absolutely smoking when she's that character, I have no idea why.


Pepper Potts is the only thing I've really liked her in. She's just adorable in that part. And her legs looked fantastic in 3D. And Cobie Smolders is more like it, amirite?
 
2012-05-06 09:41:07 PM  

Sarcastica75: i want to be inside of loki.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-06 09:45:17 PM  

DamnYankees: Why are you alone on that? I thought everyone liked that.


I figured I was the only one who thought about it that way. I don't often hear much talk about Tony and Pepper's relationship, or that there were Moonlighting fans who liked Iron Man.

Carth: It needs to be in more theaters to beat 200 million. TDK opened in 4,366 screen Avengers was in 4,349 but because of 3d beat its per screen average. The most theaters ever was 4,468 (Twilight Eclipse) I think if TDKR is going to beat Avengers it needs a really strong midnight sales and at least 4400 screens


The thing I'm not getting is WHY either one has to beat the other? Or either of them breaking any records for that matter. I mean, I get why people root for sports teams. But to root for movies to break records comes off to me like the worst kind of fanboyism ("Yes! My taste has been validated by the masses!", as opposed to, in the case of a flop "Yeah, but people are stupid and wouldn't appreciate it anyway").

There's plenty of room on anyone's shelves for both movies, I'm sure.
 
2012-05-06 09:49:25 PM  

Last Man on Earth: Never saw Moonlighting, so you might be alone in the comparison, but I definitely loved the way she could keep up with him without missing a beat.


If you liked that, you might want to check out Moonlighting (the first three seasons anyway, particularly their riff on Taming of the Shrew). The dynamic you're describing is exactly what the show was like. It's probably where Favreau got it in the first place.
 
2012-05-06 09:50:04 PM  

DamnYankees: sure haven't: Forget just super heroes, this movie is how you do an action-adventure movie well. Intelligently written, "believable" action, etc. Just utterly fantastic.

Maybe I'm truly insane, but I can think of movies from each of the past five years which have been better action-adventure movies than the Avengers.

2011 - Captain America
2010 - Kick Ass
2009 - Star Trek

2008 - Iron Man

Yes, I genuinely think those were all better than The Avengers. Flame away.


Sorry, but those 3 are a definite no. Hell, Captain America was kind of a mess, and the new Star Trek makes no sense.
 
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