chuggernaught: arrr_matey1978: One of the many great things about the movie was the pacing. There was always something interesting happening or about to happen. And then we finally got a big, long action scene with the New York stuff at the end.

And what else was great... finally, NO LOVE STORY! If nothing else, I hope studio execs realize a movie can be successful with both genders without having to shoehorn in some lame-ass romance plot.


There were love stories, they just were not shoved into your face.

Starks and Pepper, and of course two heroes were shown to have feelings for one another.

Agreed. IMO, the most emotional scene in the whole movie was JARVIS asking Tony if he should call Pepper. Even though you could barely see Downey's face in that sequence, he acted the fark out of it. Great, great job.

Next two weeks sre meh and then MIB3. Okay then.

eddievercetti: Next two weeks sre meh and then MIB3. Okay then.

So the next three weeks are meh, then?

DamnYankees: eddievercetti: Next two weeks sre meh and then MIB3. Okay then.

So the next three weeks are meh, then?

The Dictator looks ok...for Netflix
Battleshiat - It's Transformers without the Transformers
Chernobyl Diaries still gets a maybe.
MIB3 looks intriguing to me and hopefully it won't suck like 2 did

DamnYankees: kronicfeld: DamnYankees: Carth: kronicfeld: Marvel should wake up every day thanking the universe for the existence of Robert Downey Jr.

Avengers is going to do way broader business than TDKR even without Imax and 3D. The theater today was loaded to the gills with kids as young as six or seven. You're not going to see parents taking young kids to the way darker TDKR.

Not sure I buy this - Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out within weeks of each other, a TDK had a much bigger box office than IM. I don't see why we can't apply the same logic here.

Because Iron Man and TDK were two totally different movies from the two we're comparing now?

They are? I can't even imagine a more perfect movie analogy. The only better parallel possible would have been if it was Iron Man 2 against TDKR.

Here's a pretty good article about the difference between the two:

Why "The Avengers" is the anti-"Dark Knight" (and that's a good thing)


Lernaeus: JosephFinn: We're seeing it again on Wednesday. Partially just to see Hulk respond to Loki in just the right way.

+1

Alone, worth the price of admission.

/plus, y'know, the WHOLE REST OF THE MOVIE

Agreed, just saw it about an hour ago. good stuff. But that one scene made the whole theater totally erupt to the point where I missed Hulk's line afterwards. And people clapped at the end, which I haven't seen in a while.

And I think the crew that cleans the theaters between showings must HATE the double post-credit scenes.

fusillade762: Here's a pretty good article about the difference between the two:

Why "The Avengers" is the anti-"Dark Knight" (and that's a good thing)

The blogger Alyssa Rosenberg had a great post about this, and its interesting:

Christopher Nolan's Batman's movies have always had an element of monkish sacrifice to them: to be an impactful superhero, Bruce Wayne's had to surrender his true public image (in the first film, he acts the playboy to disguise his intentions), the love of his life and of the populace, and now, it's implied, either his life or his physical health. Bane's declaration that "your punishment must be more severe" is a looking-glass version of how Nolan's understood the only way for superheroes to make a difference, to self-abnegate, to foreswear their own happiness, to separate themselves from the people they are sacrificing themselves for.

The Marvel franchise, and The Avengers in particular (without spoiling anything), take the opposite tack. Its superheroes become better individuals more closely drawn to their communities for their experiences as superheroes. Tony Stark stops cackling over his power to kill and begins craving the approval of those around him, a selfish motivation that ultimately teaches him to engage with their needs. Thor falls in love with Jane Foster, and with Earth, a process of attachment that turns him from self-involved Asgardian prince into an admirable man. Captain America, in life and in death, gives the American people something to rally around, not to unify in their disgust at his perceived actions. The great tragedy of the Hulk has been that he's cut off from reason and attachment precisely at the moment that he could provide the greatest amount of strength to protect people or causes. These two movies are going to make serious bank for their studios. But taken together, they're also a vigorous argument about superheroism. That's an exciting debate to have, and I'm looking forward to it.

i can't talk about it without spoiler alerting all over the place except to say i nerdgasmed over and over and over and i want to be inside of loki. *bows*

WienerButt: I noticed all the media in the movie was either CNN or MSNBC. No sign of Fox News.


/cue 'Hollywood Libruls!!!!!!1!!1"
//good movie

Bill O'Reilly and Fox News had a cameo in IM2.

blackminded: OK fine, fark it, I'm going to see it again. I hope you people are happy.

this should be a given.
i'm going again on tuesday. ghetto movie theater, five bucks.

JosephFinn: We're seeing it again on Wednesday. Partially just to see Hulk respond to Loki in just the right way.

Only one problem I had with that scene. The theater lauged so loud I missed Hulk's followup line.



Mentat: That was the most Joss Whedon scene ever.

That, and the second post credits scene.

Laughed, even.

I wonder if Ed Norton is on suicide watch right now?

Loved it, will see it again. Now, bring on TDKR.

Wayne 985: I really love the theme of sacrifice in Nolan's Batman movies. It feels good to see Spider-Man or Iron Man find a way to have everything, but The Dark Knight was the first time I remember a superhero movie really saying, "You know what? You WILL have to surrender the people and the things you love most to do the right thing."

IF you and I wanted to become heroes, we would be Batman. Vigilante types with technology, endless supply of income, and feared by people because of it. You have tons of excuses to why you are rarely seen, or you don't have bills to pay or anything like that.

If you and I suddenly became heroes, we would be Spider-Man. Normal people with normal problems, trying to come to grips with this great power we suddenly are given. For the most part, we won't have millions of dollars, we won't have access to the latest gadgets, we would just be people with powers. We have to juggle real life with our alter ego and somehow have a way to do it both.

sure haven't: Forget just super heroes, this movie is how you do an action-adventure movie well. Intelligently written, "believable" action, etc. Just utterly fantastic.

Maybe I'm truly insane, but I can think of movies from each of the past five years which have been better action-adventure movies than the Avengers.

2011 - Captain America
2010 - Kick Ass
2009 - Star Trek
2008 - Iron Man

Yes, I genuinely think those were all better than The Avengers. Flame away.