MBK: flamingboar: I loved the movie but the Bruce Banner/hulk transformation confused me at one point.

/being vague to avoid spoilers.

Semi-SPOILERSSSSSSSS

The first transformation was due to pain. When Hulk senses that Banner is in pain, he comes out to not only protect Bruce, but to protect himself (no Banner, no Hulk). When this happens, Banner can't control the transformation. Hulk is in control.

Second transformation? Bruce reveals that he HAS control over the Hulk under normal circumstances. He can turn to Hulk at will. He's "always angry", meaning he can turn it on (but not so much turning it off).

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ADDITIONAL SPOILERS*****

my take, the first transformation is slow due to two things. 1) for the movie aspect it builds drama as black widow realizes the danger and it gets the crowd into the scene. 2) for the story aspect banner is fighting the transformation so it just takes longer. during the second transformation he wants the hulk in charge so it happens much faster, he let's go so to speak.

END SPOILERS



So many funny and quotable lines.


/if it's all the same to you, I'll take that drink now.

blackminded: arrr_matey1978: finally, NO LOVE STORY!

I can't big and bold this enough.


AND NO ORIGIN STORY

chuggernaught: if it's all the same to you, I'll take that drink now.

Tom Hiddleston farking OWNED the role of Loki. THAT is what I want to see in a supervillain with enough badassery to necessitate the formation of a supergroup.

"You MEWLING QUIM!"

/I said "Daaaaaamn!" aloud at that part
//possibly because I know what "quim" means

Just saw Thor and Captain America for the first time yesterday, so I'll be seeing The Avengers either tonight or tomorrow. Is 3D worth it or should I just stick with the standard version?

MBK: You also see that Banner doesn't have full control over himself when he is under stress, he doesn't know what he is doing. He grabs the staff and doesn't realize it.

The way that scene was shot, I took it as the staff was exerting some influence over the attitudes of everyone in the room. This caused them all to argue with each other and subtly controlled Banner to take the staff.

blackminded: I can't big and bold this enough.

wait for it? ("just like Budapest")

/fair disclosure - I have no idea if this makes sense in terms of the comic book source material.

Zombie DJ: When you can make a movie where two of the weakest team members still seemed to stand tall and actually be interesting, you deserve to be there.
A guy who shoots arrows is in league with Iron Man?
"They can't bank for crap."
Oh, ya I can see that now.


This! Totally appreciated that Hawkeye and Black Widow were on equal footing and played big roles.

blackminded: //possibly because I know what "quim" means

I loved that line on its face, but I had to look up "quim" when I got back. heh.

/'moistened bint' was already used.

Wayne 985: Just saw Thor and Captain America for the first time yesterday, so I'll be seeing The Avengers either tonight or tomorrow. Is 3D worth it or should I just stick with the standard version?

Stick to standard. You won't be missing much and saving a couple of bucks.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: TheManofPA: One thing that got me though was the cards. Knowing they were a lie and knowing Nick Fury's love of just being an a-hole to get the job done, I thought that would mean that the individual involved would have some more scenes later on

very much THIS. I was convinced that we'd see that character again.

You will be, in Iron Man 3.

Wayne 985: Is 3D worth it or should I just stick with the standard version?

Scroll up for my opinion: wjllope: kronicfeld: Anyone know if the 3D was worth it?

DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: MBK: You also see that Banner doesn't have full control over himself when he is under stress, he doesn't know what he is doing. He grabs the staff and doesn't realize it.

The way that scene was shot, I took it as the staff was exerting some influence over the attitudes of everyone in the room. This caused them all to argue with each other and subtly controlled Banner to take the staff.

Yeah, same. I didn't see it having anything to do with Banner specifically.

Loki's staff (well the Infinity Gem) emits a form of radiation which banner is especially susceptible to.

Yes, it was awsome, but how will there be time to see it again in the coming weeks with Dark Shadows, Battleship, MIB III, Prometheus, Rock of Ages, Brave, Spider Man, Ted, Batman, and The Watch coming out this summer. Don't you all want to see those amazing movies too?

NeoCortex42: The way that scene was shot, I took it as the staff was exerting some influence over the attitudes of everyone in the room. This caused them all to argue with each other and subtly controlled Banner to take the staff.

I basically interpreted the staff as being like the slime from Ghostbusters 2, altering peoples moods, making them pissy, turning people into drones.

/Mind gem.

DamnYankees: I couldn't believe they got that line in the movie. I thought I must have misheard it.

EXACTLY! Clearly there were no Brits on the MPAA review board for that one. Though you gotta figure the same guy who had Spike throwing out "bint" on a network show would know how to dance around the MPAA.

DamnYankees: blackminded: chuggernaught: if it's all the same to you, I'll take that drink now.

Tom Hiddleston farking OWNED the role of Loki. THAT is what I want to see in a supervillain with enough badassery to necessitate the formation of a supergroup.

"You MEWLING QUIM!"

/I said "Daaaaaamn!" aloud at that part
//possibly because I know what "quim" means

I couldn't believe they got that line in the movie. I thought I must have misheard it.

THIS. Also wholeheartedly agree about the romance subplots. THANK GOD.

I did enjoy Cobie Smulders' panty lines quite a bit...

DamnYankees: darkedgefan: Yes, it was awsome, but how will there be time to see it again in the coming weeks with Dark Shadows, Battleship, MIB III, Prometheus, Rock of Ages, Brave, Spider Man, Ted, Batman, and The Watch coming out this summer. Don't you all want to see those amazing movies too?

I want to see about three of them - Prometheis, Brave and TDKR. But I also want to see:

Moonrise Kingdom
Snow White and the Huntsman
Safety Not Guaranteed
People Like Us...maybe
The Bourne Legacy
Lawless

If you don't already, you really need to do a movie critic style blog. Even though I disagree with you about this movie you always tend to have interesting thoughts on most movies I see or want to see.

There was a teensy bit of romance going between Stark and Potts, and I loved the chemistry there and it didn't feel at all out of place. Hope it continues in Iron Man 3.

darkedgefan: Yes, it was awsome, but how will there be time to see it again in the coming weeks with Dark Shadows, Battleship, MIB III, Prometheus, Rock of Ages, Brave, Spider Man, Ted, Batman, and The Watch coming out this summer. Don't you all want to see those amazing movies too?

Dark Shadows: I've seen Depp acting pale and weird in enough Burton movies. unless it gets great reviews I'll wait for video.
Battleship: looks terrible
MIB III: Will Smith's first movie in like 4 years? Nothing else really comes out between now and then so I'll see it
prometheus: really needs to be rated R
Rock of Ages: I like it when Tom Cruise makes fun of himself so it should be good
Spiderman: Fark fox for Spiderman III. I hope it fails so marvel can buy back the rights cheaper
Batman: Can't Wait
Brave: Can't wait

Also looking forward to: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, Moonrise Kingdom, The Campaign and Lawless

cicdle: If you don't already, you really need to do a movie critic style blog.

If DamnYankees and Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener did a Siskel & Ebert style podcast I would pay top dollar to subscribe.

/facts

blackminded: cicdle: If you don't already, you really need to do a movie critic style blog.

If DamnYankees and Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener did a Siskel & Ebert style podcast I would pay top dollar to subscribe.

/facts

I'd upgrade back to total fark if that was a feature every week.

BroVinny: There was a teensy bit of romance going between Stark and Potts, and I loved the chemistry there and it didn't feel at all out of place. Hope it continues in Iron Man 3.

and they hinted at a romantic past between Hawkeye and Black Widow but they didn't keep stopping the movie to advance a romantic subplot anywhere

Carth: prometheus: really needs to be rated R

The trailer ought to have been. It played before Avengers, scared the shiat out of my nine-year-old daughter.

/who loved Avengers along with the rest of us

DamnYankees: Carth: prometheus: really needs to be rated R

I thought it already was. Was this not decided? I can't imagine it won't be.

Last I heard they were trying to tone it down for a PG-13. Link The fact the movie comes out in a month and the rating isn't announced says they are doing something.

NeoCortex42: MBK: You also see that Banner doesn't have full control over himself when he is under stress, he doesn't know what he is doing. He grabs the staff and doesn't realize it.

The way that scene was shot, I took it as the staff was exerting some influence over the attitudes of everyone in the room. This caused them all to argue with each other and subtly controlled Banner to take the staff.

This fits! Read below.

SEMI-CONJECTURAL SPOILERS

The next major enemy is Thanos. He's the big guy who went around trying to get the Cosmic Cube, so he could become omnipotent (before being defeated by the Cube being destroyed) and then being the guy who went around to collect the Infinity Gems and put them into the Infinity Gauntlet to become God, and who lost because he judged himself unworthy of Godship. (This is a layman's explanation, so there's no need to nerd-rage on me)

It's been confirmed that the Tesseract in the films is the Cosmic Cube in the comics; it was confirmed that the post-credit scene guy is Thanos. Thanos' two biggest roles (at least in my opinion) were stealing and subsequently rampaging around with the Cosmic Cube/Tesseract, and using the Infinity Gems. We already know the Tesseract is there to be taken again (this time in Asgard, where Loki is already allied with Thanos); we also know that Loki's staff was powered by a blue entity that has power of people's minds. The Mind gem in the comics is also Blue, and was once owned by both Thanos and Loki.

So it's very possible that Thanos gave the Mind Gem to Loki to put in the staff, who used it to take control of people's minds. It's also very possible that the Gem was subtly influencing everyone in the room: and the main reasons why I think this is true is A: the grabbing of the staff by the most volatile person in the room (a man who is always angry) and B: Black Widow, who was 100% focused on securing Banner from the room, getting caught up in all the fighting while the staff went into overdrive.

DamnYankees: blackminded: cicdle: If you don't already, you really need to do a movie critic style blog.

If DamnYankees and Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener did a Siskel & Ebert style podcast I would pay top dollar to subscribe.

/facts

I wish I could somehow make movies into a career - I really love them. The only thing that's stopping me is my total failure to make any attempt to do that.

You should start a movie blog. If nothing else because you enjoy it and could influence the RT ratings.

Digitalstrange: romantic past between Hawkeye and Black Widow

If we eventually get a S.H.I.E.L.D. movie with a Mr. and Mrs. Smith style sex scene between Ms. Johansson and Mr. Renner I will be COMPLETELY OK with that.

/while Agent Hill watches via surveillance equipment
//giggity

blackminded: "...flying monkeys."

"I got that! I got that reference!"

/subtly hilarious

That and the $10 proved that Chris Evans can do comedy. Well, that and Not Another Teen Movie, an under rated spoof.

Digitalstrange: Lernaeus: ZeroCorpse: ... Tom Selleck as Tony Stark

Honestly, I'd rather see (a younger) Selleck as Stark than Downey. It's not a huge point with me, but ...

Tony Stark was a dark, serious character in the books, whereas Downey plays a flippant playboy. I'm sure there's a good reason why they decided to replace Stark's alcoholism, but to me that was an important characteristic - at one point, he gave up Iron Man completely because he couldn't deal with losing two of his friends, and lived in an alcoholic stupor until he was practically forced back into the armor.

It doesn't take away from my enjoyment of the movies, though. Really, it's that Chris Nolan got Bruce Wayne so right that I want to see some more grown-up and realistic takes on these classic characters.

Did you watch the same Iron Man films I did? Downey was drinking while on a presentation to the US Military, he was drinking and gambling when he was supposed to be accepting a prestigious science award. He had a drink in his hand any time he wasn't in a cave or the suit, and in 2 he got so wasted he was using the suit while drunk and endangering lives. Exactly how do you think they "replaced" Starks alcoholism? Yes at this point he is still functional but he is an alcoholic and they have addressed it even if they dont wallow in it.


Yep, the alcoholism is there. In IM2 you even see that his dad may have had a problem. In the movies they center more on his narcissism, but the alcoholism is there. Just because he isn't shown as wasted 24/7 doesn't mean he isn't an alcoholic.

/alcoholism does not mean you cannot function, it means you cannot function without it.

So what we are saying here is that Batman doesn't always win?

DamnYankees: BroVinny: Carth: prometheus: really needs to be rated R

The trailer ought to have been. It played before Avengers, scared the shiat out of my nine-year-old daughter.

/who loved Avengers along with the rest of us

That trailer for Prometheus is, in my opinion, one of the five greatest trailers ever made. It's a work of art. And I say this as someone who loves trailers and watches a ton of them for their own sake. I have a playlist of trailers on my iPhone and I watch them at the gym.

That's weird. But yes, the Prometheus trailer was absolutely brilliant.

and where was the War Machine?

jmr61: Still disgusted that more people don't have the brains to see Cabin in the Woods.

Excellent movie.

I'm going to see it one of these days.

When I'm working, and can actually afford movies again.

fisker: [Hulk banging a cement mixer 640x480]

You got a funniest vote from me for that one. I laughed hard at that!

First thing that came to mind when I saw that was this?

arrr_matey1978: One of the many great things about the movie was the pacing. There was always something interesting happening or about to happen. And then we finally got a big, long action scene with the New York stuff at the end.

And what else was great... finally, NO LOVE STORY! If nothing else, I hope studio execs realize a movie can be successful with both genders without having to shoehorn in some lame-ass romance plot.


There were love stories, they just were not shoved into your face.

Starks and Pepper, and of course two heroes were shown to have feelings for one another.

Sargun: So it's very possible that Thanos gave the Mind Gem to Loki to put in the staff, who used it to take control of people's minds.

This explanation gives me a nerd boner, so let's so with it. Particularly since we see at the very beginning of the flick the Gem being placed into the staff and handed to Loki. And of course, Big Purple at the end.

chuggernaught: /alcoholism does not mean you cannot function, it means you cannot function without it.

*swigs Jameson* Indeed.

JosephFinn: That and the $10 proved that Chris Evans can do comedy. Well, that and Not Another Teen Movie, an under rated spoof.

And Scott Pilgrim, which is criminally underrated.

/milk and eggs, biatch