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(Courier Mail)   Shoppers are being paid more than $100 million a year in personal injury lawsuits after they slipped on grapes at the grocery store. Still cheaper than covering the world in bubble wrap   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 10
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2012-05-06 11:20:36 AM
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Personal Injury lawsuits do have some silly effects around the edges but overall they keep the vast majority of consumer products safe. Can you imagine the size of the government beurocracy that would be required to accomplish the same industry supervision? Plus, like any regulatory agency they would eventually become corrupted by the industry they are supposed to watch.

Lawsuits turns attorneys into freelance bounty hunters that are, for example, far more effective at preventing food poisoning than the FDA.
2012-05-06 10:09:18 AM
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Mr. Coffee Nerves: You'd think they'd just put security cameras in the produce section to help determine who really had an accident and who didn't.


They probably do. But consider:
The cases include a 30-year-old woman who was awarded more than $300,000 last year after requiring a knee replacement when she became stuck under a trolley following a fall.

The 30 year old with the mangled knee probably isn't faking.
2012-05-07 12:48:06 AM
1 votes:
My mother worked at a sub-contractor doing inventory for Disney. She was about one and a half stories high on a ladder when the ladder collapsed in half under her and she fell to the ground causing bad injury. She was told to get up because if they called 911 she would lose her job and disney would cancel the contract.

She was pulled to her feet then into an office chair and wheeled away. She later sued and was awarded $5,000. The ladder was trashed and thrown away and was not available for view during the trial. Her lawyer, a big ambulance chaser, Jacobs and Goodman (who no longer exists) refused to sue Disney, and didnt even get her a settlement to cover her future medical expenses.

She is currently unable to walk because of her injuries many years later.. that 5 grand did her a crapload of good. My mother may not have deserved a huge settlement but all medical costs due to her injury for life should have been covered.
2012-05-06 07:05:12 PM
1 votes:
I used to work as a personal injury firm about 15 years ago. While there, the majority of slip & fall claims we handled were a direct result of mis-aimed misting units spraying a light coating of water on the floor, instead of exclusively on the produce. So the store created the hazardous condition and an unsuspecting shopper would miss the small amount of water on the floor and slip on it and injury themselves.

About four or five years ago, most supermarkets (at least around here) started using floor mats in the produce section as a cheap means to protect shoppers from this commonly occurring issue, and shoppers are safer for it. Had the supermarkets been immune from these claims there would have been little motivation for them to make the produce section safer. It is just sad that it took them so long to start using the mats.
2012-05-06 01:27:31 PM
1 votes:
My dad is obviously doing it wrong.

40+ years ago he was hit by a drunk driver driving a work truck but because the guy didnt have insurance (it wasn't required by law until the year after) he got nothing from the guy except a month long coma, heptatitis C from the blood transfusion, and a mangled up left leg. Today had this happened he would have gotten a few million from the drunk guys business and another few million from the blood bank.

Fast forward about 30 years and he is in a grocery store that has this oily substance on the floor and he slips and falls and does some bruising to his back. The manager of the grocery store is very nice to him, calls an ambulance, tells him to get checked out and does what one would consider the "right" thing....just being a decent human. This manager files the report and then corporate gets involved. Two lawyers show up at our house basically outlining their defense of the situation, him falling because of his disability, they provide him the names of three witnesses claiming it was his carelessness that caused the accident and just being generally threatening. Dad had no intent to sue but wanted the ambulance bill and whatever imaging they did to his back paid for. Of course they wouldn't pay and we didnt pursue because my dad wasn't hurt but its just another friendly reminder of how dickish people are. He bumped into the manager of the store and even she started accusing him of fraud even after witnessing the entire thing.

My dad is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet and would do anything for anyone but for whatever reason the universe has chosen him to crap on...I kid with him that he must have killed puppies and kittens for fun in another life and is getting paid back for it.
2012-05-06 12:05:36 PM
1 votes:
not to mention the cost of people "testing" the grapes and then not buying them.
2012-05-06 11:45:42 AM
1 votes:
I understand that everyone loves reading stories about frivolous lawsuits, but this story is crap. First, it is about Australia. Second, it offers no citations nor direct figures. Third, it makes unsubstantiated conclusions. In other words, this seems to be an article for the tort reform industry.

Remember, every time there is a "frivolous" jury verdict, there were 8, 10, or 12 jurors who went along with the verdict. Would you rather an elected judge make the call? The jury system is the last major check on big business we have in this country.

Lets talk about the one personal injury lawsuit that everyone hangs their hat on - the McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit. "She got allllllllllll that money for spilling coffee on herself, we've got to change this." The real facts of that case are that McDonalds was nuking the coffee far beyond a safe temperature. Coffee this hot would then make the cup flexible and easy to spill. There was no way to drink this coffee at this temperature without seriously burning yourself.

Everyone hates personal injury lawyers until they (or their family) is seriously injured due to someone else's negligence.
2012-05-06 11:09:10 AM
1 votes:
Watch a move called Hot Coffee and see what really goes on in the world of "fraudulent' law suits.

No jury is going to award millions to someone with just a booboo that they faked.
2012-05-06 10:47:58 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Slaxl: Theaetetus: Mr. Coffee Nerves: You'd think they'd just put security cameras in the produce section to help determine who really had an accident and who didn't.

They probably do. But consider:
The cases include a 30-year-old woman who was awarded more than $300,000 last year after requiring a knee replacement when she became stuck under a trolley following a fall.

The 30 year old with the mangled knee probably isn't faking.

Or they're the most dedicated fakers out there!

Well, consider... an award of $300k means her lawyer takes $100k and her insurance company takes $100k. She only gets $100k to take home.
But gosh, that's a lot, right? Until you realize that knee replacements only last 10 years, and so, if she lives past 70, she's going to need four more full knee replacements. Which her insurance may cover, unless she ever changes jobs and then has a "pre-existing condition". So, there's a strong chance she'll need that money to pay for the future operations.
Additionally, she was likely out of work for a while, and those lost wages are also part of the $100k. And she may have lost seniority or opportunity to advance, and her career will suffer.

In short, she's got a lifetime of painful operations to look forward to and is probably not even adequately compensated. It's a terrible way to make money.


Did you read my comment and really think I was serious? I suppose there are people on Fark who post such silly things in seriousness.
2012-05-06 10:34:09 AM
1 votes:

Slaxl: Theaetetus: Mr. Coffee Nerves: You'd think they'd just put security cameras in the produce section to help determine who really had an accident and who didn't.

They probably do. But consider:
The cases include a 30-year-old woman who was awarded more than $300,000 last year after requiring a knee replacement when she became stuck under a trolley following a fall.

The 30 year old with the mangled knee probably isn't faking.

Or they're the most dedicated fakers out there!


Well, consider... an award of $300k means her lawyer takes $100k and her insurance company takes $100k. She only gets $100k to take home.
But gosh, that's a lot, right? Until you realize that knee replacements only last 10 years, and so, if she lives past 70, she's going to need four more full knee replacements. Which her insurance may cover, unless she ever changes jobs and then has a "pre-existing condition". So, there's a strong chance she'll need that money to pay for the future operations.
Additionally, she was likely out of work for a while, and those lost wages are also part of the $100k. And she may have lost seniority or opportunity to advance, and her career will suffer.

In short, she's got a lifetime of painful operations to look forward to and is probably not even adequately compensated. It's a terrible way to make money.
 
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