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2012-05-06 01:36:35 AM
Was he on Law and Order?
 
2012-05-06 01:50:02 AM
9,000 viewers, huh? National broadcast that can't outdraw a Ron Paul rally.
 
2012-05-06 07:39:02 AM
That's hard to swallow.
 
2012-05-06 09:58:51 AM
Their business model is wrong and does not match what their audience expects.

Rather than hiring someone for millions of dollars, they should give that person a normal wage and spread the rest of the money to the workers (camera crew, support staff, writers, etc).

Just giving more money to these 1%ers makes no sense.
 
2012-05-06 09:59:48 AM

feckingmorons: Was he on Law and Order?


No, I think he's a swimmer or something.
 
2012-05-06 10:00:45 AM
Friendly tip: don't click to watch the "Newsbusted" video on the side. Its like The Soup but every joke is "liberals are stupid".
 
2012-05-06 10:03:19 AM
Cant he just hire some girls to watch him?
 
2012-05-06 10:06:17 AM

bdMurray: Cant he just hire some girls to watch him?


He did. That's 2,000 of the viewers right there.

And his cousin in San Diego leaves the TV on while he's out mowing the lawn, so that's something.
 
2012-05-06 10:06:27 AM

bdMurray: Cant he just hire some girls to watch him?


Paying those kind of girls would take all of Current TV's advertising revenue.
 
2012-05-06 10:06:35 AM
Eliot is still Spritzen!
 
2012-05-06 10:08:05 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-06 10:12:21 AM

Young Rory Calhoun: Friendly tip: don't click to watch the "Newsbusted" video on the side. Its like The Soup but every joke is "liberals are stupid".


Eh...it could have been worse. Liked the California joke though.
 
2012-05-06 10:12:39 AM
You want ratings? Make her his co-host

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-05-06 10:12:52 AM
There are more people that watch My Little Pony than there are people that watch Fox News.

/most of them are also smarter than ponies, unlike the people that watch Fox News
 
2012-05-06 10:18:43 AM
I've always loved the right's cognitive dissonance on left-leaning media: It's dangerous to our country and must be shut down...but no one watches it anyway.
 
2012-05-06 10:20:06 AM

Mildot: You want ratings? Make her his co-host

[i.cdn.turner.com image 625x475]


You know, that wouldn't be a bad idea. One thing about Spitzer, he never really denied the charges once he got caught red-handed, and he's okay with making jokes about it.

Why not really and truly OWN it by making her his co-host?

/unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?
 
2012-05-06 10:23:47 AM

ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?


She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!
 
2012-05-06 10:25:53 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Their business model is wrong and does not match what their audience expects.

Rather than hiring someone for millions of dollars, they should give that person a normal wage and spread the rest of the money to the workers (camera crew, support staff, writers, etc).

Just giving more money to these 1%ers makes no sense.


Air America's business model fails again. Quel surprise.

Your idea would work a hell of a lot better.

Broadcasting management is filled with empty suits who think "big name + gives good speeches = ratings". So they keep hiring Spitzers instead of somebody hungrier at a tenth of the price. Same thing happened back in the day when Mario Cuomo got a radio show on WABC. Management figured that since the ex-governor was a gifted public speaker he'd be a natural for radio. Nope. Later, some other group of NYC morons gave Bill O'Reilly a radio show. There were bus dispatchers with more listeners. Rush Limbaugh on radio? A money machine. Rush on TV? Failerrific.

Being a great public speaker is not the same as being somebody who can get viewers or listeners to stick around through commercial breaks, and being good on radio is not even the same as being good on TV (and vice versa).
 
2012-05-06 10:27:28 AM

Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!


I'm sure she is. But we're trying to get poor Mr. Spitzer some ratings here.
 
2012-05-06 10:29:17 AM
Different audience. Olbermann appealed to an audience that enjoyed fiery rhetoric. Spitzer appeals to an audience that enjoys calm, level, fact-based dialogue.
 
2012-05-06 10:29:36 AM

ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!

I'm sure she is. But we're trying to get poor Mr. Spitzer some ratings here.


I know, but I had to comment on the obvious attempts by Fox News to put beauty over brains when it comes to their female contributors.

And some of these women are political strategists?

Link

If she was butt ugly, i don't think they'd let her own with crazy crap like that.
 
2012-05-06 10:31:04 AM

Notabunny: Different audience. Olbermann appealed to an audience that enjoyed fiery rhetoric. Spitzer appeals to an audience that enjoys calm, level, fact-based dialogue.


I've given up on all cable news from the US. I only watch BBC World News and CNN International and they seem to do an even better job of covering news here in the US than the stations we have here.

/Yes I know I'm a news hipster
 
2012-05-06 10:31:08 AM
Actually I think this speaks well of Democrats and progressives. We don't need to be told what to think by Rush Limbaugh types. We draw our own conclusions rather than relying on this week's newsletter. We read newspapers, watch CNN and visit Fark for a dose of what the derpsters are shilling this week. I'm still waiting to read a NewsBusters or Amiercan Stinker article here and think "Hey, they've got a point." On the other hand, many's the time I read a left wing editorial (which, unlike Fox News, is rarely disguised as a news article) and think "No, you're wrong." So the need for hero worship which motivates so much right wing "thinking," which might otherwise boost Spitzer's numbers, simply isn't there.
 
2012-05-06 10:32:28 AM
Oh. An argumentum ad Nielsenum. How <sarcasm>novel</sarcasm>.
 
2012-05-06 10:33:29 AM

Gulper Eel: Being a great public speaker is not the same as being somebody who can get viewers or listeners to stick around through commercial breaks, and being good on radio is not even the same as being good on TV (and vice versa).


They pick someone good in one field and they fail miserably in another. It's not because Spitzer does not understand politics, he does. He just can't be interesting on TV or radio.
 
2012-05-06 10:36:50 AM

clambam: Actually I think this speaks well of Democrats and progressives. We don't need to be told what to think by Rush Limbaugh types. We draw our own conclusions rather than relying on this week's newsletter. We read newspapers, watch CNN and visit Fark for a dose of what the derpsters are shilling this week. I'm still waiting to read a NewsBusters or Amiercan Stinker article here and think "Hey, they've got a point." On the other hand, many's the time I read a left wing editorial (which, unlike Fox News, is rarely disguised as a news article) and think "No, you're wrong." So the need for hero worship which motivates so much right wing "thinking," which might otherwise boost Spitzer's numbers, simply isn't there.


True. I think that's why Air America failed (that and it was put on signals that were barely listenable so of course it couldn't compete with the conservative talk on heritage powerhouse stations). That and the fact that since liberals tend to be younger and younger folks aren't listening to the radio as much. The die was cast.
 
2012-05-06 10:37:52 AM
Good. Being a pol at the federal level shouldn't guarantee you a job with millions in payout for the rest of your life. It's one of the things that's completely farking our system.
 
2012-05-06 10:38:50 AM
NewsBusters bathes in schadenfreude like a Japanese teenager in a bukkake video.
 
2012-05-06 10:39:00 AM

Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!

I'm sure she is. But we're trying to get poor Mr. Spitzer some ratings here.

I know, but I had to comment on the obvious attempts by Fox News to put beauty over brains when it comes to their female contributors.

And some of these women are political strategists?

Link

If she was butt ugly, i don't think they'd let her own with crazy crap like that.


They don't always put brains over beauty, but it seems if the woman has brains, that's a minus rather than a plus.
For example, as Jon Stewart pointed out, this lady:

minnesotaindependent.com

was valedictorian of her high school, graduated cum laude from Stanford after studying overseas at Oxford, and won Miss America partly because of her impressive skills at concert violin. She is NOT a dumb person. But she plays one on TV rather well.
 
2012-05-06 10:43:42 AM

Delay: Gulper Eel: Being a great public speaker is not the same as being somebody who can get viewers or listeners to stick around through commercial breaks, and being good on radio is not even the same as being good on TV (and vice versa).

They pick someone good in one field and they fail miserably in another. It's not because Spitzer does not understand politics, he does. He just can't be interesting on TV or radio.


Which is why he needs the hooker on the show with him. I am totally serious, why not do a special report on prostitution in government, and interview her and some of her coworkers? If the audience reaction is positive, and if she carries herself well in the interview, then consider making her a more permanent co-host.
 
2012-05-06 10:44:28 AM
Does anybody watch Current TV? That's a channel that you have to shell out for in addition to paying for cable, right?
 
2012-05-06 10:45:06 AM

Mrtraveler01: True. I think that's why Air America failed (that and it was put on signals that were barely listenable so of course it couldn't compete with the conservative talk on heritage powerhouse stations). That and the fact that since liberals tend to be younger and younger folks aren't listening to the radio as much. The die was cast.


I used to listen some in 2004, via RealPlayer. Wasn't exactly learning new things.
 
2012-05-06 10:45:27 AM
It always amuses me about how conservatives will crow about the low ratings liberals get one day, and the cry about how the Liberal Media Conspiracy™ is oppressing conservative thought in the media the next.
 
2012-05-06 10:45:45 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Does anybody watch Current TV? That's a channel that you have to shell out for in addition to paying for cable, right?


Dunno, I've never seen it.
 
2012-05-06 10:47:50 AM

ox45tallboy: Mildot: You want ratings? Make her his co-host

[i.cdn.turner.com image 625x475]

You know, that wouldn't be a bad idea. One thing about Spitzer, he never really denied the charges once he got caught red-handed, and he's okay with making jokes about it.

Why not really and truly OWN it by making her his co-host?

/unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?


If an anti-prostitution politician that hired prostitutes can come off as intelligent and personable enough for a tv show, why couldn't someone that gets paid to make men feel comfortable about their tiny dicks? Honestly, she may well have chosen that particular line of work because she can make millions of dollars in it, not because she's not capable of doing something more intellectual (and what counts as more intellectual than having sex? If she were an employee at McDonalds would it show more of a depth of character?). Her career choice shouldn't be used to make assumptions about her intelligence. After all, at least she's not a politician.

/sex work is real work
 
2012-05-06 10:48:42 AM

Alphax: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Does anybody watch Current TV? That's a channel that you have to shell out for in addition to paying for cable, right?

Dunno, I've never seen it.


If you have Charter, they don't carry it. I have AT&T U-Verse which does carry it...somewhere on there...but you're not missing much.

I get more from watching CNN International anyways.
 
2012-05-06 10:50:39 AM

Alphax: I used to listen some in 2004, via RealPlayer.


Holy crap that is a long time ago.

I haven't used RealPlayer in ages!
 
2012-05-06 10:51:41 AM
The more popular something is the higher quality it is. That is why Ke$ha is some of the best music in America and American Idol is the greatest television spectacle in history.
 
2012-05-06 10:52:20 AM

Mrtraveler01: Alphax: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Does anybody watch Current TV? That's a channel that you have to shell out for in addition to paying for cable, right?

Dunno, I've never seen it.

If you have Charter, they don't carry it. I have AT&T U-Verse which does carry it...somewhere on there...but you're not missing much.

I get more from watching CNN International anyways.


Yep, Charter. Apparently U-Verse isn't an option here, even though they advertise here.
 
2012-05-06 10:52:37 AM

ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!
...

For example, as Jon Stewart pointed out, this lady:

[minnesotaindependent.com image 364x287]

..... She is NOT a dumb person. But she plays one on TV rather well.




www.opposingviews.com

So does this one- No wait a second he is not playing.
 
2012-05-06 10:55:10 AM

ox45tallboy: For example, as Jon Stewart pointed out, this lady:

[minnesotaindependent.com image 364x287]

was valedictorian of her high school, graduated cum laude from Stanford after studying overseas at Oxford, and won Miss America partly because of her impressive skills at concert violin. She is NOT a dumb person. But she plays one on TV rather well.


If she insists on playing dumb, then she doesn't deserve to be recognized for any intellect. It's really that simple.

Then again, let's consider that it might not be playing. As I said else-thread, I think that Fox News uses a special bleaching process on its women. While it strips away almost all of their reasoning capacity, objectivity, empathy, and self-respect as it's intended to, it has the side-effect of making them blonde.
 
2012-05-06 10:55:21 AM

Shaggy_C: The more popular something is the higher quality it is. That is why Ke$ha is some of the best music in America and American Idol is the greatest television spectacle in history.


I'm just curious why Real American PatriotsTM think China is the best country to be a citizen of.
 
2012-05-06 10:55:59 AM

Alphax: Mrtraveler01: Alphax: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Does anybody watch Current TV? That's a channel that you have to shell out for in addition to paying for cable, right?

Dunno, I've never seen it.

If you have Charter, they don't carry it. I have AT&T U-Verse which does carry it...somewhere on there...but you're not missing much.

I get more from watching CNN International anyways.

Yep, Charter. Apparently U-Verse isn't an option here, even though they advertise here.


That sucks. Although I was surprised we were able to get it out here in St. Charles.

The channel selection is definitely better though. Now I don't have to go through 20 channels of crappy religious and shopping channels.

Although cost wise I don't think there is a difference between the two anymore.
 
2012-05-06 10:57:58 AM

Falcc: ox45tallboy: Mildot: You want ratings? Make her his co-host

[i.cdn.turner.com image 625x475]

You know, that wouldn't be a bad idea. One thing about Spitzer, he never really denied the charges once he got caught red-handed, and he's okay with making jokes about it.

Why not really and truly OWN it by making her his co-host?

/unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

If an anti-prostitution politician that hired prostitutes can come off as intelligent and personable enough for a tv show, why couldn't someone that gets paid to make men feel comfortable about their tiny dicks? Honestly, she may well have chosen that particular line of work because she can make millions of dollars in it, not because she's not capable of doing something more intellectual (and what counts as more intellectual than having sex? If she were an employee at McDonalds would it show more of a depth of character?). Her career choice shouldn't be used to make assumptions about her intelligence. After all, at least she's not a politician.

/sex work is real work


Look, I'm not trying to demean prostitutes or anything, it's just that many who choose that line of work IN THIS COUNTRY (rather than wind up in it through human trafficking or whatever) are usually not very good at doing other things, or they are willing to assume the risks of that occupation (STD's, assault, not to mention legal trouble - at least in this country) because they don't want to do anything else. It's not a very rewarding occupation.

It would be nice if she were intelligent enough to make a good co-host, (people's heads would EXPLODE) but I don't think it is likely. Not necessarily untrue, just unlikely. I still say give her a chance, I mean if nothing else, ratings would be HUGE.
 
2012-05-06 10:58:35 AM

Mrtraveler01: If you have Charter, they don't carry it. I have AT&T U-Verse which does carry it...somewhere on there...but you're not missing much.


About what I figured. Charter is the only game in town so I couldn't get it even if I wanted to. And if Charter did carry it, I'd first have to enter into a contract with them to get a few dozen channels of reality shows and home shopping infomercials for some insane amount of money, and then pay even more to get Current TV. Fark every single piece of that couch.

You'd think Current TV would have some sort of a la carte online option or something, being Al Gore's channel for a new generation. Get a deal to stream through Netflix or something. Just something other than tying your channel to the media outlet of my parents' generation.
 
2012-05-06 11:02:46 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Mrtraveler01: If you have Charter, they don't carry it. I have AT&T U-Verse which does carry it...somewhere on there...but you're not missing much.

About what I figured. Charter is the only game in town so I couldn't get it even if I wanted to. And if Charter did carry it, I'd first have to enter into a contract with them to get a few dozen channels of reality shows and home shopping infomercials for some insane amount of money, and then pay even more to get Current TV. Fark every single piece of that couch.

You'd think Current TV would have some sort of a la carte online option or something, being Al Gore's channel for a new generation. Get a deal to stream through Netflix or something. Just something other than tying your channel to the media outlet of my parents' generation.


Yeah, even Al Jazeera is more modern about how it distributes its channel than Current.

But like I said before, it's not worth going to all that trouble for. You aren't missing much.

I would gladly trade Current TV for BBC World News if I could.
 
2012-05-06 11:03:04 AM

ox45tallboy: Which is why he needs the hooker on the show with him. I am totally serious, why not do a special report on prostitution in government, and interview her and some of her coworkers? If the audience reaction is positive, and if she carries herself well in the interview, then consider making her a more permanent co-host.


You might be making the same mistake. Ashley (aka Kristen) was or is a good prostitute, but she might not have the skills to be interesting as a guest or host. When the topic is something other than herself she probably would not fit. Similar story with Spitzer, same reason.

So, to continue with your idea of having Ashley and Elliot do a show together, it could work out well. I would have them tell stories of their many "first dates" they have had with hookers and Johns. At least they would be talking about themselves and it might be interesting.
 
2012-05-06 11:04:54 AM

Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: /unfortunately, since she chose that particular line of work, it's not likely she has the intelligence and personality to make a good co-host.
//then again, what if she just wore something low-cut and they cut to her for bouncy "reaction shots"?

She sounds PERFECT for Fox News!


She would have to dye her hair.
And don't most of the Fox girls at least have a Palinesque Degree.
 
2012-05-06 11:07:14 AM

Mrtraveler01: But like I said before, it's not worth going to all that trouble for. You aren't missing much.

I would gladly trade Current TV for BBC World News if I could.


The only thing I'm missing is The Young Turks, which I used to listen to regularly through their free podcast. I can still get a free BBC World News podcast, but I agree that I'd rather have access to BBC World News than Current friggin TV.
 
2012-05-06 11:07:58 AM

Delay: Ashley (aka Kristen) was or is a good prostitute, but she might not have the skills to be interesting as a guest or host.


You say this now, but as time goes by you'll see that the skill-sets between the two professions mirror one another more and more each day.
 
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