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2012-05-06 09:14:30 AM  

monty666: Oh yeah, this is why I quit going to the politics tab.
Thanks for reminding me folks.


I don't why everyone always says stuff like this. I don't find the politics tab any more retarded than the rest of Fark. And I'm not even as interested in politics as I am in most of the stuff posted on the other tabs.

Maybe that's why--I don't really care about politics. 99% of it is just people running their mouths. And if you sift through it all, you MIGHT get a vague idea of what is really going on, but still no idea of what is actually going to happen in the future. I just don't have the patience.
 
2012-05-06 09:21:56 AM  
Nixon also brought in the dixiecrats and now they run the republican party with bagmen behind them to pay the bills. Yet another reason to loathe nixon.
 
2012-05-06 09:23:48 AM  
The tent is fine. The barker needs to be fired.
 
2012-05-06 09:24:14 AM  

cryinoutloud: monty666: Oh yeah, this is why I quit going to the politics tab.
Thanks for reminding me folks.

I don't why everyone always says stuff like this. I don't find the politics tab any more retarded than the rest of Fark. And I'm not even as interested in politics as I am in most of the stuff posted on the other tabs.

Maybe that's why--I don't really care about politics. 99% of it is just people running their mouths. And if you sift through it all, you MIGHT get a vague idea of what is really going on, but still no idea of what is actually going to happen in the future. I just don't have the patience.


If you really want to see idiocy in America go check out the Youtube comments for anything remotely political.

It makes Fark seem like the Meet the Press in comparison.
 
2012-05-06 09:30:57 AM  

violentsalvation: Weaver95: GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right? I'm not saying both sides are bad so blah blah. I just think both sides really need to study their conscience before they cast a vote against the other guys, but not necessarily for themselves. I know this go around we don't have much for alternatives, but I think in the future we can force an alternative.


Really, it's not either party's at fault. It's the system we have that allows us to pretend we solved a "problem" by hiring some more people to "work" on it. And this is a system that is almost completely run by corporate interests and lobbyists.
 
2012-05-06 09:31:28 AM  
Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.
 
2012-05-06 09:34:11 AM  

cryinoutloud: I don't why everyone always says stuff like this. I don't find the politics tab any more retarded than the rest of Fark. And I'm not even as interested in politics as I am in most of the stuff posted on the other tabs.


It's utter BS. The politics tab is actually the LEAST retarded tab on Fark. For example, check out, oh I don't know, any link on the main page ever.
 
2012-05-06 09:36:48 AM  

Jackson Herring: cryinoutloud: I don't why everyone always says stuff like this. I don't find the politics tab any more retarded than the rest of Fark. And I'm not even as interested in politics as I am in most of the stuff posted on the other tabs.

It's utter BS. The politics tab is actually the LEAST retarded tab on Fark. For example, check out, oh I don't know, any link on the main page ever.


I think you see some of the most profound contrasts in intellect on display, which highlights the mouth breathers to a higher degree than in your average Entertainment tab derp-fest.
 
2012-05-06 09:38:27 AM  
Poor guy doesn't realize that these days, party membership is incidental. This is a fight for the country's soul and the warring factions are WHAAARGARBL and WTF.
 
2012-05-06 09:41:24 AM  
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.

Love the Goldwater Quote, especially how prophetic is was.

Unfortunately in this day and age the far right and its TV station would have boiled that quote down to a Single Message: "Barry Goldwater is frightened and people who get frightened are unfit to lead."
 
2012-05-06 09:41:41 AM  
the European socialist mentality wasn't big enough for my dreams.

Lifting weights, getting high and harassing women was a bridge too far?

It's time for the Republicans who are so bent on enforcing conformity to ask themselves a question: What would Ronald Reagan have done?

Raise taxes? Ignore the AIDS epidemic? Hold a séance? Tell us, Arnold! Tell us!
 
2012-05-06 09:43:43 AM  
Isn't Arnie the guy who said the California Legislature were "a bunch of girlymen" instead of negotiating with them?

Way to go forward, Arnie.
 
2012-05-06 09:47:15 AM  

Boxcutta: the European socialist mentality wasn't big enough for my dreams.

Lifting weights, getting high and harassing women was a bridge too far?

It's time for the Republicans who are so bent on enforcing conformity to ask themselves a question: What would Ronald Reagan have done?

Raise taxes? Ignore the AIDS epidemic? Hold a séance? Tell us, Arnold! Tell us!


You left out sell weapons to Iran, condone the rape of nuns, and support the Taliban. I probably missed a few to.
 
2012-05-06 09:48:44 AM  

Snatch Bandergrip: wademh: Alphax: wademh: Out of curiosity, could somebody list some of these ideas that brought the country forward?

Eisenhower: The national highway system. Rural electrification?
Nixon: The EPA.
Teddy Roosevelt: Trust busting, telling Europe to stop colonizing the western hemiphere.

Excellent. I'm looking forward to a return to the a support of the first three.


Seriously. All of those ideas are great ones, but they run counter to the current GOP's goals. Supporting national infrastructure is teh soshulisms; the EPA is a weapon of job-killing regulations; anti-colonialism is downright treasonous and prevents the spread of American democracy.


That's kind of his point, dude.
 
2012-05-06 09:52:04 AM  

Lackofname: Isn't Arnie the guy who said the California Legislature were "a bunch of girlymen" instead of negotiating with them?

Way to go forward, Arnie.


arnie was a disaster for california.
not surprising since he is a RINO.
 
2012-05-06 09:52:20 AM  
TFA: I'm sure they would have preferred to remain Republicans, but in the current climate, the extreme right wing of the party is targeting anyone who doesn't meet its strict criteria. Its new and narrow litmus test for party membership doesn't allow compromise.

Okay, just checksumming my memory here... This is the same Schwarzenegger who decried California state democrats as being "economic girlie men," right? Where was the spirit of compromise that day, out nursing a pulled hamstring or something? Or is he talking only of compromise between Republicans?
 
2012-05-06 09:52:38 AM  
Phhhbbbt. You think you're going to sway these people with a thoughtful and reasoned article, Arnie? I'd think by now you know how to deal with large groups of creeps.

screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-05-06 09:54:22 AM  
*shakes tiny fist at Lackofname, but happy he wasn't the only one who remembered*
 
2012-05-06 10:06:59 AM  

Weaver95: Real Republicans don't compromise, they terminate the weak.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2012-05-06 10:09:24 AM  

Hetfield: wademh: Out of curiosity, could somebody list some of these ideas that brought the country forward?

Slavery.
Indian massacre.


More seriously, the Interstate Highway System.
 
2012-05-06 10:10:27 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.


I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.
 
2012-05-06 10:12:35 AM  

ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.


Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).
 
2012-05-06 10:12:49 AM  

Weaver95: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?


So, two then?
 
2012-05-06 10:14:19 AM  

themindiswatching: They won't listen because he isn't a "natural born citizen".


Wasn't Arnie the one that they were fawning all over trying to figure out how to change the laws about this, so that he could run for President?
 
2012-05-06 10:17:07 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Hetfield: wademh: Out of curiosity, could somebody list some of these ideas that brought the country forward?

Slavery.
Indian massacre.

More seriously, the Interstate Highway System.


The Interstate highway system was such a novel concept that today we take for granted. One of the worst parts about Marx and other Socialist writers was that they treated transportation as a necessary evil, which neither added to the value or subtracted from cost of any article, regardless of how much or how little it must be shipped from the point of production.

The Interstate system made it comparatively cheap to ship products everywhere; it was a VERY socialist idea that allowed capitalism to flourish.

Why are most "good" Republican ideas like the Interstate System really socialism when you break them down?
 
2012-05-06 10:17:14 AM  

ifarkthereforiam: Cry me a river Arnold. This small tent shiat started under Reagan.


NO. Ever hear of the phrase "Reagan Democrats"? Reagan opened the tent. If you're looking for where it all began, look no further than Rush Limbaugh. Period. He has singlehandedly polarized and moved the pole and enforces the poleshift.
 
2012-05-06 10:20:30 AM  

Kevin72: ifarkthereforiam: Cry me a river Arnold. This small tent shiat started under Reagan.

NO. Ever hear of the phrase "Reagan Democrats"? Reagan opened the tent. If you're looking for where it all began, look no further than Rush Limbaugh. Period. He has singlehandedly polarized and moved the pole and enforces the poleshift.


"White voters without college education - economically anxious and culturally conservative - were called "Reagan Democrats" when they were considered only seasonal Republicans because of Ronald Reagan. Today they are called the Republican base."-- George Will
 
2012-05-06 10:23:11 AM  

Doc Daneeka: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).


My Dad is one of those "I don't want to hear it!" type of Republicans. He went off on a tirade about "this is a Christian Nation!" It was founded as a Christian Nation, and it will always be a Christian Nation!" I asked him about the Treaty of Tripoli, and he acted like I was crazy for suggesting it, insisting that I must be "taking it out of context". I read him the first part, word for word, and attempted to explain who John Adams was, and he refused to listen to me any more.

This is my own father. I'm kind of disappointed.
 
2012-05-06 10:24:51 AM  

ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.


funny that the dems have not been able to come up with anything better than what a 12 year old came up with.
 
2012-05-06 10:25:12 AM  

magusdevil: Kevin72: ifarkthereforiam: Cry me a river Arnold. This small tent shiat started under Reagan.

NO. Ever hear of the phrase "Reagan Democrats"? Reagan opened the tent. If you're looking for where it all began, look no further than Rush Limbaugh. Period. He has singlehandedly polarized and moved the pole and enforces the poleshift.

"White voters without college education - economically anxious and culturally conservative - were called "Reagan Democrats" when they were considered only seasonal Republicans because of Ronald Reagan. Today they are called the Republican base."-- George Will


I blame this guy:

images2.fanpop.com
 
2012-05-06 10:26:17 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

funny that the dems have not been able to come up with anything better than what a 12 year old came up with.


28.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-06 10:26:40 AM  

ox45tallboy: Doc Daneeka: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).

My Dad is one of those "I don't want to hear it!" type of Republicans. He went off on a tirade about "this is a Christian Nation!" It was founded as a Christian Nation, and it will always be a Christian Nation!" I asked him about the Treaty of Tripoli, and he acted like I was crazy for suggesting it, insisting that I must be "taking it out of context". I read him the first part, word for word, and attempted to explain who John Adams was, and he refused to listen to me any more.

This is my own father. I'm kind of disappointed.


It's times like this that I'm thankful that my dad doesn't follow politics as heavily as I do.

I think he does know that politics in general is a joke and I always tell him that he's probably better off for it.
 
2012-05-06 10:27:04 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

funny that the dems have not been able to come up with anything better than what a 12 year old came up with.


That is funny. You should continue to use it as the unlikely premise of these comedy bits you keep doing on here.
 
2012-05-06 10:28:06 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: 2nd Try: Can you even attempt to talk about the article and not just regurgitate your same old "dem-o-rats" rants?


I'm going to go with the latter. He is the village idiot of the Politics tab, and he exists solely for people to throw mud at him. Or in his case, bloody handfuls of feathers. Best to ignore him completely.
 
2012-05-06 10:29:19 AM  

abb3w: Worth reading just for Arnie saying "Then I will be an imbecile Republican".


Came for this, leaving happy.

/though it kind of scares me that he sounds more intelligent in this article than anyone the Republicans have fielded for President this year.
 
2012-05-06 10:30:16 AM  

GAT_00: GAT_00: violentsalvation: You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right?

Democrats don't go around pretending they're going to shrink government.

And it should be noted that Obama actually IS shrinking the government, when you count the number of public service jobs lost since the recession.

In other words, if you want to vote for a smaller government, vote Democratic.


Not by choice. He delayed an inevitable shrinking with stimulus funds, but they've run out. Obama isn't shrinking the government, the recession is. If he and the Democrats had another trillion to throw at the problem, they would.

Because, as you already said, Democrats don't pretend they want to shrink the government.
 
2012-05-06 10:31:36 AM  

ox45tallboy: I blame this guy:

[images2.fanpop.com image 444x477]


Bit of a shaky foundation to build a voter base from.

/sorry
 
2012-05-06 10:31:58 AM  

Mrtraveler01: If you really want to see idiocy in America go check out the Youtube comments for anything remotely political.


FTFY.
 
2012-05-06 10:32:11 AM  

Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: Doc Daneeka: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).

My Dad is one of those "I don't want to hear it!" type of Republicans. He went off on a tirade about "this is a Christian Nation!" It was founded as a Christian Nation, and it will always be a Christian Nation!" I asked him about the Treaty of Tripoli, and he acted like I was crazy for suggesting it, insisting that I must be "taking it out of context". I read him the first part, word for word, and attempted to explain who John Adams was, and he refused to listen to me any more.

This is my own father. I'm kind of disappointed.

It's times like this that I'm thankful that my dad doesn't follow politics as heavily as I do.

I think he does know that politics in general is a joke and I always tell him that he's probably better off for it.


It just pisses me off when he won't be bothered by any of those pesky "facts"; he'll go off on a rant, and make me listen to it, but if I disagree with him, he'll get very upset and refuse to listen to anything I say.

His favorite expression when I express any dissidence with his ideals is "you've just read that somewhere on the Internet."

Kind of like most Republicans. They've got in their head what they perceive to be "right", and they don't want to have to admit they might be wrong if the facts turn out to be other than what they believe in.
 
2012-05-06 10:35:26 AM  
GOP Will Eat Itself.

\Can U Dig It?
 
2012-05-06 10:38:30 AM  

ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: Doc Daneeka: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).

My Dad is one of those "I don't want to hear it!" type of Republicans. He went off on a tirade about "this is a Christian Nation!" It was founded as a Christian Nation, and it will always be a Christian Nation!" I asked him about the Treaty of Tripoli, and he acted like I was crazy for suggesting it, insisting that I must be "taking it out of context". I read him the first part, word for word, and attempted to explain who John Adams was, and he refused to listen to me any more.

This is my own father. I'm kind of disappointed.

It's times like this that I'm thankful that my dad doesn't follow politics as heavily as I do.

I think he does know that politics in general is a joke and I always tell him that he's probably better off for it.

It just pisses me off when he won't be bothered by any of those pesky "facts"; he'll go off on a rant, and make me listen to it, but if I disagree with him, he'll get very upset and refuse to listen to anything I say.

His favorite expression when I express any dissidence with his ideals is "you've just read that somewhere on the Internet."

Kind of like most Republicans. They've got in their head what they perceive to be "right", and they don't want to have to admit they might be wrong if the facts turn out to be other than what they believe in.


Yeah, it's hard to counter with someone that willfully ignorant. I feel bad for you.
 
2012-05-06 10:41:54 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: ox45tallboy: I blame this guy:

[images2.fanpop.com image 444x477]

Bit of a shaky foundation to build a voter base from.

/sorry


th204.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-06 10:41:56 AM  

Lsherm: Because, as you already said, Democrats don't pretend they want to shrink the government.


I find it interesting that the well of discourse has been so poisoned that nobody argues what a lot of people know: there are some ways in which government really does have to be larger to do a better job. It might also help if government didn't cave in to the plaintive, greed-addled, law-killing whine of America's financial nobility.

/Not necessarily trolling, just putting forth some new ideas.
 
2012-05-06 10:42:13 AM  

ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: ox45tallboy: Doc Daneeka: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

Don't forget, they are also passionate defenders of what they imagine the Constitution and the bible to be (for some of them, these are imagined as one and the same).

My Dad is one of those "I don't want to hear it!" type of Republicans. He went off on a tirade about "this is a Christian Nation!" It was founded as a Christian Nation, and it will always be a Christian Nation!" I asked him about the Treaty of Tripoli, and he acted like I was crazy for suggesting it, insisting that I must be "taking it out of context". I read him the first part, word for word, and attempted to explain who John Adams was, and he refused to listen to me any more.

This is my own father. I'm kind of disappointed.

It's times like this that I'm thankful that my dad doesn't follow politics as heavily as I do.

I think he does know that politics in general is a joke and I always tell him that he's probably better off for it.

It just pisses me off when he won't be bothered by any of those pesky "facts"; he'll go off on a rant, and make me listen to it, but if I disagree with him, he'll get very upset and refuse to listen to anything I say.

His favorite expression when I express any dissidence with his ideals is "you've just read that somewhere on the Internet."

Kind of like most Republicans. They've got in their head what they perceive to be "right", and they don't want to have to admit they might be wrong if the facts turn out to be other than what they believe in.


Sigh - my mom and stepdad are the same way. My dad said that he was sad that after 20 years in the military I hadn't learned better than to vote for a democrat and my mom hung up on me when I said *I* was even more qualified to be commander in chief of the military than Gov Palin.
 
2012-05-06 10:43:01 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: arnie was a disaster for california.
not surprising since he is a RINO.


Interesting statement, since the GOP wanted to remove the condition of natural born citizenship for becoming the POTUS so he could run. Interesting statement, since as a member of the GOP he was the Governor of the most populace state in the U.S. Of course, now that the GOP has gone off the derp end, you call him a RINO when he says anything that shows him using his own free thought to honestly look at an organization he has belonged and contributed to for decades.
 
2012-05-06 10:47:23 AM  

rwhamann:
Sigh - my mom and stepdad are the same way. My dad said that he was sad that after 20 years in the military I hadn't learned better than to vote for a democrat and my mom hung up on me when I said *I* was even more qualified to be commander in chief of the military than Gov Palin.


We should form a support group or something... people whose parents refuse to actually listen to anything that doesn't support their world view.
 
2012-05-06 10:49:49 AM  

magusdevil: tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

funny that the dems have not been able to come up with anything better than what a 12 year old came up with.

That is funny. You should continue to use it as the unlikely premise of these comedy bits you keep doing on here.


BEST PART--12 YEAR OLDS, DUDE
 
2012-05-06 10:50:04 AM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Lsherm: Because, as you already said, Democrats don't pretend they want to shrink the government.

I find it interesting that the well of discourse has been so poisoned that nobody argues what a lot of people know: there are some ways in which government really does have to be larger to do a better job. It might also help if government didn't cave in to the plaintive, greed-addled, law-killing whine of America's financial nobility.

/Not necessarily trolling, just putting forth some new ideas.


THIS. Republicans break records in bloated, runaway budgets creating a new yet completely redundant federal department, then complain about the size of government when Dems want women to be able to get cancer screenings. Dems want the government to work, while Reps just want to win. Only one of those two motivations can reduce the size of government.
 
2012-05-06 10:52:08 AM  

born_yesterday: magusdevil: tenpoundsofcheese: ox45tallboy: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Republican mythology is based on the deification of a mentally handicapped B-movie actor, the root from which their economic, social, and foreign policy platforms spring.

I thought it came from the mind of 12-year old Grover Norquist.

funny that the dems have not been able to come up with anything better than what a 12 year old came up with.

That is funny. You should continue to use it as the unlikely premise of these comedy bits you keep doing on here.

BEST PART--12 YEAR OLDS, DUDE

...FOREVER.
 
2012-05-06 10:53:01 AM  

ox45tallboy: We should form a support group or something... people whose parents refuse to actually listen to anything that doesn't support their world view.


There is one. Here's the meeting place:

i45.tinypic.com
 
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