logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

A man taking an honest look at his own political party to help correct it should be listened to. He was the Governor of one of the most populated states. He knows a lot about politics, marrying into the Kennedy family and all. And, if people were to ask Republicans to listen to him, maybe some of the bullshiat may be cut down.

well put.

We need to remind the Republicans who want to enforce ideological purity that if they succeed, they will undo Reagan's work to create an inclusive party that could fit many different views.



this right there means that the Governator can no longer be a Republican. he's weak, he's moderate...he's LIBERAL! and Real Republicans don't compromise, they terminate the weak.

logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?

They won't listen because he isn't a "natural born citizen".

logistic: Weaver95: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?

You began your previous comment with "this right there". I wouldn't question the intellect of others, Weavey. It doesn't suit you.

... ok this should be good.

*grabs popcorn*

logistic: Weaver95: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?

You began your previous comment with "this right there". I wouldn't question the intellect of others, Weavey. It doesn't suit you.

I'm sorry but you come across as someone not in control of their emotions. it must be very difficult for you to deal with people in person.

logistic: Weaver95: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?

You began your previous comment with "this right there". I wouldn't question the intellect of others, Weavey. It doesn't suit you.

Yes, please do not bring in questioning one's intelligence in this. Its only gonna turn into a flamefest

Oy vey.

When a political thread updates this fast, you know it's going to be a mess.

SilentStrider: logistic: Weaver95: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

you aren't very bright, are you?

You began your previous comment with "this right there". I wouldn't question the intellect of others, Weavey. It doesn't suit you.

... ok this should be good.

*grabs popcorn*

nah. almost time for me to pack it in and head home. just waiting on third shift to get here so I can leave!

Worth reading just for Arnie saying "Then I will be an imbecile Republican".

I love that you just demonstrated your total inabilty to contribute anything of worth. You proved me right without me having to say a thing.

Weaver95: logistic: I'm sorry but you come across as someone not in control of their emotions. it must be very difficult for you to deal with people in person.

Hahaha, when logistic said, "I'm not giving you this Snickers bar. Not yours. Now go back to your TV dinner and your Wal-Mart scooter adventures, rollerpig." I wondered what would happen if anybody ever said that to somebody in person.

Weaver95: nah. almost time for me to pack it in and head home. just waiting on third shift to get here so I can leave!

*checks watch* dang. This exchange had great promise.

Weaver95: We need to remind the Republicans who want to enforce ideological purity that if they succeed, they will undo Reagan's work to create an inclusive party that could fit many different views.



this right there means that the Governator can no longer be a Republican. he's weak, he's moderate...he's LIBERAL! and Real Republicans don't compromise, they terminate the weak.

Pretty much. The current leadership is driving folks from the party trying to get some sort of comprehensive "Conservative" policy that is actually a fairly radical vision and regressive in nature.

I still consider myself Conservative, but given what the party has as policy, I can't call myself Republican any longer. We need sane policy, not pandering to folks who would like to rewrite the Constitution...

Rincewind53: Oy vey.

When a political thread updates this fast, you know it's going to be a mess.

Not to mention that the drinking lamp has been lit for several hours now. I'll come back in a bit and figure out which inebriated, Cheetos-encrusted political scholar will (A) cry, or (B) have a total meltdown.

logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

Stallone fan?

logistic: You began your previous comment with "this right there". I wouldn't question the intellect of others, Weavey. It doesn't suit you.

*Slow clap*

I'll cut tax.

Ahnuld reminded my dad of Eisenhower Republicans who were willing to sit down and work things out to find a solution to America's problems rather than whine and threaten to shut down the government or tax the poor to support the rich. He was able to work things out so well he was married to a Kennedy until he was caught acting like one. The republitards in the state legislature were his undoing. That and the term limits.

logistic: He has more skeletons in his closet

I'm sure his wife has her own closet, unless you are saying she picks out his clothes.

logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

When a David Frum, a John Huntsman or an Arnold speaks out against Teabaggery, it needs to be encouraged. After all, descent is the highest form of patriotic.

Mentat: logistic: Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks? He has more skeletons in his closet than Sarah Palin has tards in her cooze.

When a David Frum, a John Huntsman or an Arnold speaks out against Teabaggery, it needs to be encouraged. After all, descent is the highest form of patriotic.

not to some members of the GOP. you are either with them or you are the Enemy. Even among the Democrats there's the view that changing your viewpoint is wrong. In their view, once a Republican always a Republican. that said,...the GOP are the ones these days with the ideological purity fixation.

GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Arnold has always been pro-choice.

GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

GOP Policy summed up:Government in the bedroom and out of the boardroom

Weaver95: GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right? I'm not saying both sides are bad so blah blah. I just think both sides really need to study their conscience before they cast a vote against the other guys, but not necessarily for themselves. I know this go around we don't have much for alternatives, but I think in the future we can force an alternative.

violentsalvation: Weaver95: GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right? I'm not saying both sides are bad so blah blah. I just think both sides really need to study their conscience before they cast a vote against the other guys, but not necessarily for themselves. I know this go around we don't have much for alternatives, but I think in the future we can force an alternative.

I second this.

GAT_00: violentsalvation: You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right?

Democrats don't go around pretending they're going to shrink government.

This is true. They are far more transparent about their plans to grow it.

violentsalvation: Weaver95: GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right? I'm not saying both sides are bad so blah blah. I just think both sides really need to study their conscience before they cast a vote against the other guys, but not necessarily for themselves. I know this go around we don't have much for alternatives, but I think in the future we can force an alternative.

I know the Democrats are just as authoritarian...but the GOP specifically goes out of their way to SAY that they stand for freedom...then signs us all up for TSA gaterape sessions, 'free speech zones' and mandatory FBI backdoors into everyone's websites and twitter accounts. that's what I don't understand...how can someone say 'i'm for smaller government' and then not 5 min later turn around and cheer for expanding government to watch US citizens who haven't committed any crimes...?

GAT_00: cman: GAT_00: violentsalvation: You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right?

Democrats don't go around pretending they're going to shrink government.

This is true. They are far more transparent about their plans to grow it.

I know! They want to let government help people again, and give something besides bombs and handouts to businesses for taxes! The farking NERVE of these people!

If it makes you feel better I am all for slashing the military budget. I have always and forever shall never be happy with any sort of handout to businesses.

Weaver95: GAT_00: What's important is our shared belief in the broad Republican principles of free enterprise and small government.

Small enough to be shoved into your vagina, should you happen to be a woman, but shouldn't be shoved in between you and a company, because THAT would be intrusive.

I just don't get it. how can the GOP be for 'smaller government' and at the same time keep voting to expand useless agencies like the TSA or funding the failed war on drugs...?

"Small government" has been narrowed to mean little more than lower taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations. The GOP is perfectly OK with massive, intrusive government in pretty much every other area.

cman: I have always and forever shall never be happy with any sort of handout to businesses.

that makes you a liberal you know. if you aren't in favor of massive public bailouts of private industry, that makes you a socialist!

don't think about that too hard...it'll hurt your brain.

GAT_00: cman: GAT_00: cman: GAT_00: violentsalvation: You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right?

Democrats don't go around pretending they're going to shrink government.

This is true. They are far more transparent about their plans to grow it.

I know! They want to let government help people again, and give something besides bombs and handouts to businesses for taxes! The farking NERVE of these people!

If it makes you feel better I am all for slashing the military budget. I have always and forever shall never be happy with any sort of handout to businesses.

Let me ask you this then: do you think states should be allowed to give selective tax benefits to companies?

Nope. That is showing favoritism. The government of any state should not do that.

/But alas, they do.
//fark Wal-Mart

GAT_00: cman: Nope. That is showing favoritism. The government of any state should not do that.

Then you really ought to be a liberal.

He's liberal by default. Remember - to the GOP purists, there is ONLY 'liberal' and 'conservative'. if you aren't 'conservative' then you are 'liberal' and thus the Enemy. And the purists get to decide what constitutes a True Conservative. No dissent is possible, and you do not question their judgement ever, or you are declared unmutual.

to be quite honest, i've actually found strict marxists to be more accepting of dissident political views than the modern day GOP. kinda scary if you ask me.

Weaver95: to be quite honest, i've actually found strict marxists to be more accepting of dissident political views than the modern day GOP. kinda scary if you ask me.

I prefer socialists over Republicans (Especially Libertarian Socialists. I have few issues with them.)

GAT_00: violentsalvation: You know those things are getting worse and expanding under a democratic administration too, right?

Democrats don't go around pretending they're going to shrink government.

I know and that bothers me, and it has caused me to distance myself from the political party I used to find myself kinda aligned with. Arnold here is trying to bring it back from the fundies and the social conservatives. I wish him luck but I think this November will have more luck Gibbs head slapping some sense into people than this article.

But also, I don't think the left quite got the candidate(s) they were voting for either. Which is mostly my point. We were sold on stuff we didn't really get.

violentsalvation:

But also, I don't think the left quite got the candidate(s) they were voting for either. Which is mostly my point. We were sold on stuff we didn't really get.

this year our choice is going be be 1. an extreme right wing wacko with dominionist theocrat leanings and deep ties to corrupt corporations or 2. a mildly right of center democrat who gives invasive/authoritarian law enforcement agencies whatever they ask for....

I'd rather not have either one...but given a choice between the mild right of center Democrat or the wacko fundie christian theocrat....i'll take the Democrat and just keep encrypting my beef stew crock pot recipe and emailing it to Al Jazzeria.com.