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(Washington Examiner)   US government now considers global warming a national security threat, which I guess means we'll start bombing the shiat out of the Arctic soon   (campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ) divider line
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2012-05-05 05:53:30 PM  

chuckufarlie: butg what I am repeating is data gathered by the CRU. Do you think that the CRU would make things up


How about you cite it, then?
 
2012-05-05 05:55:40 PM  
One of the oddly funny things about USA is that the military has a frankly sober view of reality and our politicians are drunk as shiat. A General will say "that's such an astonishingly bad idea that the entire Army will oppose it" and then the Republican will say "do it anyway, I have a mandate from heaven."

The military soberly compartmentalizes issues that we know we will face very soon, and then our politicians completely ignore them.

It's like asking the best expert on national security to formulate a five-year plan and then completely ignoring all of the recommendations. The GOP is so flagrantly out of touch with national security that I believe they are actively attempting to destroy our nation. The GOP is the biggest threat to the national security we now face.

GOP = Terrorism

/used to vote GOP
//never again
 
2012-05-05 05:56:09 PM  
Well, this thread is screwed. It will be 30 users proving that one lying user is a liar.
 
2012-05-05 05:57:58 PM  

chuckufarlie: The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, I am pretty sure that I am in no danger of getting the tops of my feet wet.


No, that's true. But since chuck doesn't understand the difference between means and power-law variation, his point is misleading.

The mean temperature deviation for Europe in 2003 was also 1C. But that year saw record heat waves that killed 70,000 people, because small changes from the historic mean aren't the same as changes to the variation.
 
2012-05-05 05:58:44 PM  
Aw, not this shiat again. Oh well, I'll just do what I always do in these threads.

a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-05-05 06:00:13 PM  
There's "security" like having someone watch guard and then there's "Linus security". I really thought DHS was using the former definition.

Opportunistic power-grubbing bureaucrats. Each and every one of them.
 
2012-05-05 06:00:13 PM  

quatchi: chuckufarlie: Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Planning for every available contingency != "getting scared shiatless"

Just as a gauge as to your derp level are you also a heliocentrist and a 6,000 yo earther or possibly even a flat earther as well as an AGW denier?

Got any thoughts on the holocaust you wanna share with the room?

 
2012-05-05 06:02:34 PM  

chuckufarlie: quatchi: chuckufarlie: Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Planning for every available contingency != "getting scared shiatless"

Just as a gauge as to your derp level are you also a heliocentrist and a 6,000 yo earther or possibly even a flat earther as well as an AGW denier?

Got any thoughts on the holocaust you wanna share with the room?


Ah yes, the last bastion of the imbecile - accuse me of other completely separate ideas. Is that the best that you can do? If you had an ounce of intelligence or integrity you would actually post something directed at the facts that I pointed out.
 
2012-05-05 06:02:53 PM  

chuckufarlie: quatchi: chuckufarlie: Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Planning for every available contingency != "getting scared shiatless"

Just as a gauge as to your derp level are you also a heliocentrist and a 6,000 yo earther or possibly even a flat earther as well as an AGW denier?

Got any thoughts on the holocaust you wanna share with the room?


So that's a "no comment"? Fair enough.
 
2012-05-05 06:04:17 PM  
CISPA forces ISPs, social networks, etc to hand over user data when national security is involved.
ISPs, social networks, etc use electricity.
electricity comes from burning coal.
burning coal causes global warming.

It all makes sense now!
 
2012-05-05 06:05:02 PM  

T-Servo: chuckufarlie: The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, I am pretty sure that I am in no danger of getting the tops of my feet wet.

No, that's true. But since chuck doesn't understand the difference between means and power-law variation, his point is misleading.

The mean temperature deviation for Europe in 2003 was also 1C. But that year saw record heat waves that killed 70,000 people, because small changes from the historic mean aren't the same as changes to the variation.


As even the most die hard warmer will tell you, one year of data is worthless.

I provided you with data in the exact manner that the CRU presents it and you seem to have a problem with it.
 
2012-05-05 06:05:51 PM  

quatchi: chuckufarlie: quatchi: chuckufarlie: Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Planning for every available contingency != "getting scared shiatless"

Just as a gauge as to your derp level are you also a heliocentrist and a 6,000 yo earther or possibly even a flat earther as well as an AGW denier?

Got any thoughts on the holocaust you wanna share with the room?

So that's a "no comment"? Fair enough.


Ah yes, the last bastion of the imbecile - accuse me of other completely separate ideas. Is that the best that you can do? If you had an ounce of intelligence or integrity you would actually post something directed at the facts that I pointed out.
 
2012-05-05 06:09:14 PM  

fusillade762: Aw, not this shiat again. Oh well, I'll just do what I always do in these threads.

[a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 600x800]


Honestly, if climate change was all a conspiracy, they are GOOD at it. Purposely melting the ice? Good one. All those concepts of greenhouse gases not being real? Genius. They're as good as the paleontologist who made all those fake dinosaur bones and wrote libraries of history about them. That's dedication, my friend.
 
2012-05-05 06:09:32 PM  

fusillade762: Aw, not this shiat again. Oh well, I'll just do what I always do in these threads.

[a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 600x800]



The problem with that wonderful little chart of your is that your focus is wrong. AGW is not being driven by local or regional environmental groups, it is driven by international environmental groups. Let's see what they have to say.


Climate policy has almost nothing to do with environmental protection anymore, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated.


A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources. - Emma Brindal, Friends of the Earth, 2007
 
2012-05-05 06:11:35 PM  

chuckufarlie: As even the most die hard warmer will tell you, one year of data is worthless.

I provided you with data in the exact manner that the CRU presents it and you seem to have a problem with it


So where is this mysterious data? You've stated it several times in this thread, but no links, no citations.

Yet you ask everyone else for cites. Interesting.
 
2012-05-05 06:12:23 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-05 06:13:44 PM  

WizardofToast: fusillade762: Aw, not this shiat again. Oh well, I'll just do what I always do in these threads.

[a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 600x800]

Honestly, if climate change was all a conspiracy, they are GOOD at it. Purposely melting the ice? Good one. All those concepts of greenhouse gases not being real? Genius. They're as good as the paleontologist who made all those fake dinosaur bones and wrote libraries of history about them. That's dedication, my friend.


Do you have any proof that the ice melts are anything but natural? Greenhouse gases are real but that is only a very small part of what goes into changing the climate. And speaking of greenhouse gases, CO2 is only a very minor contributor to greenhouse gases and man's contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions.
 
2012-05-05 06:13:56 PM  

WizardofToast: Honestly, if climate change was all a conspiracy, they are GOOD at it. Purposely melting the ice? Good one. All those concepts of greenhouse gases not being real? Genius. They're as good as the paleontologist who made all those fake dinosaur bones and wrote libraries of history about them. That's dedication, my friend.


What impresses me is how they even thought to alter the data from atmospheric conditions on Mars and Venus, trying to 'prove' that greenhouse gases explain the temperatures there. That was genius.
 
2012-05-05 06:14:34 PM  

chuckufarlie: Greenhouse gases are real but that is only a very small part of what goes into changing the climate


[citation needed]

chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor contributor to greenhouse gases and man's contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions


[citation needed]
 
2012-05-05 06:19:48 PM  
It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late. After you ignored it all that time, you can then get outraged and blame the people who warned you to change, claiming that it was their fault they didn't educate you on something you constantly rejected to learn from.
 
2012-05-05 06:20:02 PM  
This is why I bought a refrigerator with an ice cube maker.

I'm set biatches.
 
2012-05-05 06:20:47 PM  

WizardofToast: Honestly, if climate change was all a conspiracy, they are GOOD at it. Purposely melting the ice? Good one.


As much as I think global warming deniers are stupid, it always saddens me to see people who think ice is incapable of melting without human intervention. It's freaking ice. It melts. That's what it does.

All those concepts of greenhouse gases not being real? Genius. They're as good as the paleontologist who made all those fake dinosaur bones and wrote libraries of history about them. That's dedication, my friend.

No, the paleontologists were just fooled by Satan's elaborate hoax. I guess he probably had demons or something working as plants within the paleontological community, to steer them in the right direction.
 
2012-05-05 06:25:20 PM  

NeverDrunk23: It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late. After you ignored it all that time, you can then get outraged and blame the people who warned you to change, claiming that it was their fault they didn't educate you on something you constantly rejected to learn from.


I do not disagree with you in principle, but are you aware of the proposals on the table for dealing with AGW?
 
2012-05-05 06:26:48 PM  

chuckufarlie: NeverDrunk23: It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late. After you ignored it all that time, you can then get outraged and blame the people who warned you to change, claiming that it was their fault they didn't educate you on something you constantly rejected to learn from.

I do not disagree with you in principle, but are you aware of the proposals on the table for dealing with AGW?


Where is the CRU data and why haven't you linked to it in 10 posts that you've made since you referenced it?
 
2012-05-05 06:30:35 PM  

NeverDrunk23: It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late.


You've never watched a John Wayne move in your whole life, have you. That's EXACTLY when the calvary rides to teh rescue, duh! Not having a plan is exactly like the same as knowing Batman, Superman, Spiderman, the Lone Ranger and and the Aquabatswill swoop in and save your lame ass from doom! Step off, boy!

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-05 06:33:33 PM  
Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?
 
2012-05-05 06:37:16 PM  

Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?


Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?
 
2012-05-05 06:39:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: chuckufarlie: NeverDrunk23: It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late. After you ignored it all that time, you can then get outraged and blame the people who warned you to change, claiming that it was their fault they didn't educate you on something you constantly rejected to learn from.

I do not disagree with you in principle, but are you aware of the proposals on the table for dealing with AGW?

Where is the CRU data and why haven't you linked to it in 10 posts that you've made since you referenced it?


Ooh, ooh! Can I answer that one? Is it because if he actually read a legitimate source on the subject his pathetic, nonsensical denialism would cave in on itself?
 
2012-05-05 06:40:43 PM  

chuckufarlie: IMDWalrus: Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

CITATION REQUIRED

You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

Don't bother. He's an alt that's been trolling the climate change threads for at least two years now.

If by trolling you mean that I have been pointing out the facts to a bunch of children who refuse to believe it.


Okay, you're casting pearls before swine, then. Or trying to teach us pigs to sing, or something.

Doesn't sound like a rewarding hobby to me. You ever considered doing something else? Woodworking's fun. Buy a motorcycle, I know lots of people who love 'em. Kiss a girl. Find a recreational drug to abuse.

Doesn't matter what, really, just choose something. You could be out enjoying yourself instead of trying to enlighten us fools who won't listen to your wisdom.
 
2012-05-05 06:41:31 PM  

chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?


What facts? You have yet to cite the CRU data you've posted.


Please, by all means, show us some facts!
 
2012-05-05 06:44:39 PM  

chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?


You misspelled feces again.
 
2012-05-05 06:45:31 PM  

Baryogenesis: cameroncrazy1984: chuckufarlie: NeverDrunk23: It is always the best plan of action to not bother prepping for anything until its close to too late. After you ignored it all that time, you can then get outraged and blame the people who warned you to change, claiming that it was their fault they didn't educate you on something you constantly rejected to learn from.

I do not disagree with you in principle, but are you aware of the proposals on the table for dealing with AGW?

Where is the CRU data and why haven't you linked to it in 10 posts that you've made since you referenced it?

Ooh, ooh! Can I answer that one? Is it because if he actually read a legitimate source on the subject his pathetic, nonsensical denialism would cave in on itself?


Barry, you are as aware as I that the data is available at the CRU and IPCC websites.
 
2012-05-05 06:46:16 PM  

Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?

You misspelled feces again.


You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of the subject.
 
2012-05-05 06:51:21 PM  

chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?

You misspelled feces again.

You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of the subject.


There's that home schooled mentality raising it's head again, thinking you know everything about a subject mom skimmed over for a half hour with a mixture of fox news quotes and bible verses. Guess she should have taught you to think critically.
 
2012-05-05 06:52:17 PM  

Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?

You misspelled feces again.

You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of the subject.

There's that home schooled mentality raising it's head again, thinking you know everything about a subject mom skimmed over for a half hour with a mixture of fox news quotes and bible verses. Guess she should have taught you to think critically.


go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.
 
2012-05-05 06:57:30 PM  

chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?

You misspelled feces again.

You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of the subject.

There's that home schooled mentality raising it's head again, thinking you know everything about a subject mom skimmed over for a half hour with a mixture of fox news quotes and bible verses. Guess she should have taught you to think critically.

go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.


What data?
 
2012-05-05 06:58:17 PM  
www.skepticalscience.com

www.eoearth.org

www.indybay.org


www.astrobio.net

www.camelclimatechange.org
 
2012-05-05 06:58:47 PM  

chuckufarlie: go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.


Since you haven't provided a single link in any posts above to any data, I guess I can't point out any errors. Hey, you won! Bask in the glow of victory over the sheep and ask mom if she'll take you out for ice cream as a reward. That'll teach those critical thinkers.
 
2012-05-05 07:01:02 PM  

Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.

Since you haven't provided a single link in any posts above to any data, I guess I can't point out any errors. Hey, you won! Bask in the glow of victory over the sheep and ask mom if she'll take you out for ice cream as a reward. That'll teach those critical thinkers.


All of the data that I provided in contained in the data at the CRU website. Since I am sure that you have no idea what the CRU is, it is the scientific body that provides data to the IPCC. Do I need to tell you what the IPCC is?
 
2012-05-05 07:01:44 PM  
chuckufarlie: Greenhouse gases are real but
that is only a very small part of what goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only
a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions
[citation needed]
 
2012-05-05 07:02:24 PM  

Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: Do you deniers get together on Facebook and coordinate? Chuckufarlie, you go threadshiat all over this thread, Chimperror takes his explosive diarrhea to that one?

Why do you object to somebody posting actual facts?

You misspelled feces again.

You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of the subject.

There's that home schooled mentality raising it's head again, thinking you know everything about a subject mom skimmed over for a half hour with a mixture of fox news quotes and bible verses. Guess she should have taught you to think critically.

go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.

What data?


forget it, I don't have time to address people with special needs.
 
2012-05-05 07:05:20 PM  

Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Greenhouse gases are real but
that is only a very small part of what goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only
a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions
[citation needed]


forget it, I don't have time to address people with special needs. All of this is in the IPCC reports. IF you have not read and understood the IPCC reports, you are a neophyte not worth my time. Get educated and get back to me.
 
2012-05-05 07:05:24 PM  

chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.

Since you haven't provided a single link in any posts above to any data, I guess I can't point out any errors. Hey, you won! Bask in the glow of victory over the sheep and ask mom if she'll take you out for ice cream as a reward. That'll teach those critical thinkers.

All of the data that I provided in contained in the data at the CRU website. Since I am sure that you have no idea what the CRU is, it is the scientific body that provides data to the IPCC. Do I need to tell you what the IPCC is?


All of the data that I provided in
contained in the data at the CRU website.

What data have you provided?
 
2012-05-05 07:05:50 PM  
People like chuckufarlie turn denialism into a very weird religion. He behaves exactly like how I'd expect a Scientologist to behave if you told him his religion was nothing but a get-rich-quick scheme from a penny-a-page (incredibly shiatty) sci-fi writing dimwit.

It goes beyond a troll's need to antagonize others into interacting with him because he has no real-life relationships. He screams bloody murder as loud as he can to keep the constant doubts from creeping into his surface thoughts. What a horrible life that must be.
 
2012-05-05 07:06:38 PM  

Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Farker Soze: chuckufarlie: go ahead, genius, and point out the errors in the data that I provided.

Since you haven't provided a single link in any posts above to any data, I guess I can't point out any errors. Hey, you won! Bask in the glow of victory over the sheep and ask mom if she'll take you out for ice cream as a reward. That'll teach those critical thinkers.

All of the data that I provided in contained in the data at the CRU website. Since I am sure that you have no idea what the CRU is, it is the scientific body that provides data to the IPCC. Do I need to tell you what the IPCC is?

All of the data that I provided in
contained in the data at the CRU website.
What data have you provided?


I can understand why I need to keep repeating this because I am sure your brain does not react very fast - forget it, I don't have time to address people with special needs.
 
2012-05-05 07:08:19 PM  

chuckufarlie: Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Greenhouse gases are real but
that is only a very small part of what goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only
a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions
[citation needed]

forget it, I don't have time to address people with special needs. All of this is in the IPCC reports. IF you have not read and understood the IPCC reports, you are a neophyte not worth my time. Get educated and get back to me.


Greenhouse
gases are real but that is only a very small part of what
goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and
man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere
is only a small percentage of the entire CO2
emissions
[citation needed]
 
2012-05-05 07:08:57 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: People like chuckufarlie turn denialism into a very weird religion. He behaves exactly like how I'd expect a Scientologist to behave if you told him his religion was nothing but a get-rich-quick scheme from a penny-a-page (incredibly shiatty) sci-fi writing dimwit.

It goes beyond a troll's need to antagonize others into interacting with him because he has no real-life relationships. He screams bloody murder as loud as he can to keep the constant doubts from creeping into his surface thoughts. What a horrible life that must be.


And you remind me of the bible thumpers who believe in something just because somebody told you it was true.

You warmers are the religious fanatics, not me. I have actually looked into the data. Might I suggest that you do the same?
 
2012-05-05 07:10:18 PM  
Shut up everybody!

chukufarlie knows this better than anybody, including US Gov (of course, Govs are commies).
Facts are not for people who knows everytyhing.
 
2012-05-05 07:10:26 PM  

Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Boatmech: chuckufarlie: Greenhouse gases are real but
that is only a very small part of what goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere is only
a small percentage of the entire CO2 emissions
[citation needed]

forget it, I don't have time to address people with special needs. All of this is in the IPCC reports. IF you have not read and understood the IPCC reports, you are a neophyte not worth my time. Get educated and get back to me.

Greenhouse
gases are real but that is only a very small part of what
goes into
changing the climate
[citation needed]
chuckufarlie: CO2 is only a very minor
contributor to greenhouse gases and
man's
contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere
is only a small percentage of the entire CO2
emissions
[citation needed]


you have been added to my ignore list.
 
2012-05-05 07:13:20 PM  
chuckufarlie:
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