Whether it's caused by man or not, if the Earth is heating up then it should be treated as a threat to your national security, to pretend otherwise is to fail to understand the potential ramifications such a thing would pose.

Because People in power are Stupid: This article is so derped from it's basic wanna-be "gotcha" misquote to it's assumption because someone in the UN did something wrong once -that it invalidates all global warming.

Global Warming is a Security Threat

Here's a link to a Bush era CIA article that talks about Climate Change in a "Right Wing Politically Correct" way.

www.foia.cia.gov/2020/2020.pdf

In short: Climate Change affects people -and people effectively are a security threat.

And that's the short version. There's a longer version but I figure the Average Fark reader would prefer the short version.

That was quite interesting, is there a more up to date report?

US government now considers global warming a national security threat, which I guess means we'll start bombing freeing the shiat out of the Arctic soon

FTFY

Ice to hear from you. Now you want my help? Let's celebrate, let the champagne floe!

The Iconoclast: Nickster79: Even if global warming weren't real, it's probably a good idea to reduce toxic emission into the air that we breathe.

And if it is real it will eventually become too obvious to deny.

The president: Is he REALLY really reals a US born citizen?

The Iconoclast: Nickster79: Even if global warming weren't real, it's probably a good idea to reduce toxic emission into the air that we breathe.

And if it is real it will eventually become too obvious to deny.

These are people that still claim that more tax cuts for the rich will create jobs, despite 30 years of empirical data that says otherwise. These are people that call our military's top generals liars when they claim that the military does not need as much funding as they currently have. These are people that claim "Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that," despite the fact that it is easily explained with a 3rd grade understanding of science. These are people that not only claim a bumper sticker saying "don't re-nig" isn't racist, but claim they don't understand how anyone else can see a racist tone, despite the fact that it is properly spelled "renege" and is next to a picture of a black man's face morphed with a monkey.

If Rush tells them that the sky is green, they will parrot that the sky is green.

Slaxl: That was quite interesting, is there a more up to date report?

There are tons of reports out there now, one of the latest being the Defense Science Board.

Also (first link- USAF view)

And (National Intel Council PDF)

And (links inside to UK Defence Green Paper and US QDR)

Navy Task Force Climate

And finally (CIA programs- though most were housed in DOE)

The United Nations climate change panel "admitted that the melting Himalayas prediction was not based on science but on a 1999 media interview given by one scientist," Charen observed. "They said they regretted the error. Now, a study in nature, based on satellite imagery, has shown that some melting of lower altitude glaciers is taking place but that higher glaciers have been adding ice."


With reference to the story of an apparently-marooned polar bear floating on an ice floe -- puzzling, as polar bears can swim for hundreds of miles -- Charen cited a new Canadian study showing that the polar bear population is on the rise.

Seems like the war is over and we won.

A weak electrical grid is a threat to national security, so by subby's logic, we'll need to start bombing the shiat out of it soon, too.

(Fat, unfit kids are also a threat to military preparedness, which, in turn, threatens national security. I guess we will also have to start bombing subby, too.)

Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

The Iconoclast: Nickster79: Even if global warming weren't real, it's probably a good idea to reduce toxic emission into the air that we breathe.

And if it is real it will eventually become too obvious to deny.

Just in time for the argument to become, "Real, but we can't do anything about it." This process has already begun.

quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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Oh, and then there's the Army Green Warriors program- that deals more with contingency operations, but it's a good read (the ebook is free). The Army finally figured out in Iraq that providing water and electricity contained insurgencies in places like Sadr City faster than anything else. Another program replaced batteries for troops and Marines with folding solar panels, which saved 20lbs on each man's pack. -That was quickly popular.

/not really climate, but still want the SECDEF was referring to

James F. Campbell: Nickster79: Even if global warming weren't real, it's probably a good idea to reduce toxic emission into the air that we breathe.

No, better to deny that global warming exists. I'm sick of stupid people and their ignorance. Let's burn this place to the ground.

I hope all of you live long enough to suffer the consequences of it. Think of global warming as your comeuppance for allowing stupid people to participate in democracy.



Let's see. The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, our great grand children just might suffer the consequences but I doubt it.

The comments section is gold.

father_moray

Democrats are Terrorists...but Soros now counts the Votes in November...I suspect Civil War. In fact, it may be the only way back to a free America. Arm up for Nov6. Freedom: Pass it on!

chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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A report, scheduled to be published on Monday but distributed to some reporters yesterday, said issues usually associated with the environment - like rising ocean levels, droughts and violent weather caused by global warming - were also national security concerns.

"Unlike the problems that we are used to dealing with, these will come upon us extremely slowly, but come they will, and they will be grinding and inexorable," Richard J. Truly, a retired United States Navy vice admiral and former NASA administrator, said in the report.

The effects of global warming, the study said, could lead to large-scale migrations, increased border tensions, the spread of disease and conflicts over food and water. All could lead to direct involvement by the United States military.

NYT Link (from 2007)

That's the US.

Here's a PDF that goes into greater detail...

Link

Here's a pdf indicating Europe's concerns.

Link

Thanks for asking.

Gyrfalcon: CITATION REQUIRED

Why do you guys keep trying to argue with nicksteel's alt.

So wait... First believing in global warming makes you a terrorist, now its real and in itself a national security threat? I'm so confused!

quatchi: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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A report, scheduled to be published on Monday but distributed to some reporters yesterday, said issues usually associated with the environment - like rising ocean levels, droughts and violent weather caused by global warming - were also national security concerns.

"Unlike the problems that we are used to dealing with, these will come upon us extremely slowly, but come they will, and they will be grinding and inexorable," Richard J. Truly, a retired United States Navy vice admiral and former NASA administrator, said in the report.

The effects of global warming, the study said, could lead to large-scale migrations, increased border tensions, the spread of disease and conflicts over food and water. All could lead to direct involvement by the United States military.

NYT Link (from 2007)

That's the US.

Here's a PDF that goes into greater detail...

Link

Here's a pdf indicating Europe's concerns.

Link

Thanks for asking.

Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, I am pretty sure that I am in no danger of getting the tops of my feet wet.

chuckufarlie: Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, I am pretty sure that I am in no danger of getting the tops of my feet wet.


Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true. I know you want it to be true, but it's just not.

Maybe you can help me with something. I'm marking you as a favorite so that I know you're a troll. I cannot decide if I should mark you with "herp" or with "derp" though. What would you prefer?

Veloram: So wait... First believing in global warming makes you a terrorist, now its real and in itself a national security threat? I'm so confused!

So believing in it makes you a self-terrorist, and boy are you going to hurt yourself if you're not careful.

Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

Don't bother. He's an alt that's been trolling the climate change threads for at least two years now.

MithrandirBooga: chuckufarlie: Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

The data available from the CRU indicates that the average global temperature has increased by less than one degree Celsius since 1850. At that rate, I am pretty sure that I am in no danger of getting the tops of my feet wet.


Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true. I know you want it to be true, but it's just not.

Maybe you can help me with something. I'm marking you as a favorite so that I know you're a troll. I cannot decide if I should mark you with "herp" or with "derp" though. What would you prefer?

butg what I am repeating is data gathered by the CRU. Do you think that the CRU would make things up?

Gyrfalcon: Veloram: So wait... First believing in global warming makes you a terrorist, now its real and in itself a national security threat? I'm so confused!

So believing in it makes you a self-terrorist, and boy are you going to hurt yourself if you're not careful.

Or it makes the US Government a terrorist organization.

/hopes he didn't say that too loud.

IMDWalrus: Gyrfalcon: chuckufarlie: quatchi: Every major nation on earth has been putting together long term strategies against the potential national defense repercussions of AGW. From climate refugees over-running borders to food shortages and water wars the reality of AGW must be considered regardless of whatever line the ignorant, misinformed, disinformed, contrarian AGW deniers are whinging on about at any given moment.

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You're going to be arguing when you're neck-deep in water and dying of exotic tropical diseases, aren't you?

Don't bother. He's an alt that's been trolling the climate change threads for at least two years now.

If by trolling you mean that I have been pointing out the facts to a bunch of children who refuse to believe it.

chuckufarlie: Why is it that some people get scared shiatless when they hear that something "could lead to" something. That is hardly something to chase you under your bed. Grow a pair.

Planning for every available contingency != "getting scared shiatless"

Just as a gauge as to your derp level are you also a heliocentrist and a 6,000 yo earther or possibly even a flat earther as well as an AGW denier?

Got any thoughts on the holocaust you wanna share with the room?