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2012-05-05 11:44:27 PM  

lennavan: machoprogrammer: So part of probation for DUI is not to be drunk at all? That is kind of shiatty.

LazarusLong42: Maybe It's crazy of me to say this, but last time I checked it wasn't illegal to drink. In fact, I believe it's legal to drink even if you've been convicted of DUI. Can someone explain how the hell this can even be vaguely interpreted as legal?

They also have the choice of going to jail. They were punished to a jail sentence but offered terms of probation if they choose.

kroonermanblack: Granted, it means you don't have to be in jail, so there's a benefit.

I think you didnt focus on this part enough. I get everything you're saying and the blowing in it while at work thing is pretty shiatty but again, you lost sight of this part of your post. All of that inconvenience and annoyance means they don't have to be in jail. Alternatively, they can select jail.


Really, I didn't. That's why I kept mentioning it. Because while that's a really really good thing, it's also an extremely heavy chain to bear. It comes with a huge personal monetary cost, and a huge risk, and while it obstensibly keeps you out of jail, the responsabilities for caring for it can be stringent enough that you're just locked down at home instead of the pen, which can be just as mentally 'in prison', especially since it creates a really bad mental vibe. Dunno. I guess I just wanted to say it's not all fun and games. I'm fine with it legally and all, since you have the option to accept it as a term of probation or just go to (in most cases) federal jail. Keep in mind, the guys I know on this are three time losers. So they're GUILTY guilty. I'm not making excuses.

And really fluffy, fark off while the adults are having a conversation. We've heard the MADD shiat. If we wanted rhetoric we'd gargle shotgun shells. People die. It sucks a lot. Demonizing people isn't going to help your obvious need for counselling and therapy to transition past the anger stage. Yes. Drinking and driving is bad. But the system is abused, for money making and for personal vendettas (Oh Hai MADD). You coming in and farking shiatting on everything and demonizing people isn't doing anything for anyone. It's not addressing the issue, it's not participating in a conversation.

It's just you farking shiatting on the wall because oh my dear god you have an owwie and a place to vent it.
 
2012-05-05 11:50:46 PM  
You're just upset you don't have a coherent argument for any of my points.

All anyone can say is "Well I can drive just fine drunk." and "I can drive just fine drunk but I got caught and accepted it."

Perhaps I'm not the one who needs to examine themselves.
 
2012-05-05 11:57:25 PM  

fluffy2097: Piizzadude: but I just had one or two

Oh! So now you've had TWO instead of just one.

Maybe it was 2 or 3... It's hard to remember isn't it.

It was definitely less then a 6 pack though. You're pretty sure of that. I think.


I don't think you read my statement correctly. i was saying that is a typical excuse., not my situation. Wow you are not perfect after all...Wait you made a mistake, I think because of that you lose your internet posting privileges for life.

Is that fair? You live in a black and white world where a mistake is intolerable.....

fluffy2097: You're just upset you don't have a coherent argument for any of my points.

All anyone can say is "Well I can drive just fine drunk." and "I can drive just fine drunk but I got caught and accepted it."

Perhaps I'm not the one who needs to examine themselves.


i still yet to see you make any points other than you do it, your off the road for life
 
2012-05-06 12:13:44 AM  
So You Just Got A DWI Dumbass: What to (and what not to do)

This is my own personal experience with the fine state of New Jersey. I am not an attorney and might be partially talking out of my ass. Still, I have to advice to give that I hope some heed.

0. Don't drink and drive. It's seriously a bad idea kids.

1. TAKE THE GODDAMN BREATH TEST: Slurring, "I GOT MY RIGHTS" and thinking that the 4th amendment really means a damn anymore to law enforcement agencies will not fly. You'll get slapped with a refusal charge and ratfarked at sentencing. If you're one of the farkers who also enjoys popping downers/opiates or blowing lines of coke...the cops WILL get your blood if they want it. That goes for the stoners as well. If your ride reeks like weed and you get into an accident, you might get your blood taken by the police. Literally and figuratively.

2. LAWYER UP: An attorney can make the difference from between being slapped with the minimum suspension and fines, or getting the max. Do not farking mouth off at the judge, insist that you are deeply sorry for your crime and will considering getting psychological help. You might even get lucky and plead the suspension down. It can depend on the municipality or county you got changed in. Talk to your lawyer if options are available.

3. DO NOT DRIVE: If you are caught on a DWI suspension, that embarrassing motor vehicle charge gets upped to a criminal offense. It's not worth it dude! Learn the mass transit schedules and try to get rides from friends if needed.

4. WHAT TO DO AT THE IRDC CLASS
You will be sentenced to twelve hours of a painfully boring "educational" class designed to discourage you from getting behind of the wheel loaded again. You will enjoy the company of everyone who either blew just over the legal limit, or the true fark-ups who are either two time losers or blew something insane (Over 1.5 is the magic number...I think) on the Breathalyzer. Not to mention the dipshiats already on probation.

You will watch some terrible films, mine were the illustrious film Clean and Sober (hilarious to see Batman's Micheal Keaton playing a coke/booze addled real estate salesman/asshole) and Sandra Bullock's 28 Days. Resist the urge to crack Speed jokes at the inevitable DWI scene and wonder why Dominic West (TV's McNulty!) is always typecast as a drunk. Also marvel at the poor bastard who killed his friend during his DWI episode and is now forced to speak at these stupid classes while only serving a year for a DWI that farking killed someone. He does tend to cry a lot during this process and is a serious buzzkill.

Do not drink or toke up before the classes. The dipshiat bureaucrats don't care for it and can tell immediately. Do not think about sneaking out. They will know and your ass will be back in front of a judge for noncompliance.

Most important; You will get a Scantron questionnaire and a #2 pencil. Try to lie on as many of the questions as humanly possible. Do not admit to ANY other recreational drug use whatsoever. You are not under any legal obligation to be honest! (probation cases might be different, but don't quote me on it) Keep the description of your bust vague or falsify it completely (I did the latter). When you are pulled out of 28 Days or Clean and Sober and interviewed, be polite, respectful and remorseful. A good trick to beating the interview is to visit a shrink before the class a few times and save the receipts. You are deeply sorry and are getting help damnit! The flunkies who run the class can force you to receive "additional evaluation" if you bomb the Scantron class or fit the criteria for it (Prior arrests, your bust requires an Interlock). Motor Vehicle cards from 12-step meetings might also work as well as a substitute from notes from the shrink's office.

5. LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKE
All kidding aside, I made a terrible mistake. I honestly hated myself for a while after I got busted, like a real piece of human garbage. However, I'm picking myself up and trying to lead a normal life like anyone wants to. I'm still going to school while holding down a part-time job and I'm looking to put this unfortunate episode behind me. I will do my damnest not to end up like the two-time losers who can easily end up unemployable because of making a bad choice.

6. IF YOU NEED HELP, REACH OUT
There is no shame in asking for help if you have a legitimate problem with alcohol. See a therapist, talk to your loved ones or seek further treatment if it's become too big to manage. Most people who get busted for DWI are not alcoholics, but there is a percentage that are. This is a time to do a little soul searching.

/four down three to go
//yeah the account name is stupid, made it years ago and fark didn't let me make another one.
 
2012-05-06 12:17:02 AM  

Piizzadude: fluffy2097: Piizzadude: but I just had one or two

Oh! So now you've had TWO instead of just one.

Maybe it was 2 or 3... It's hard to remember isn't it.

It was definitely less then a 6 pack though. You're pretty sure of that. I think.

I don't think you read my statement correctly. i was saying that is a typical excuse., not my situation. Wow you are not perfect after all...Wait you made a mistake, I think because of that you lose your internet posting privileges for life.

Is that fair? You live in a black and white world where a mistake is intolerable.....

fluffy2097: You're just upset you don't have a coherent argument for any of my points.

All anyone can say is "Well I can drive just fine drunk." and "I can drive just fine drunk but I got caught and accepted it."

Perhaps I'm not the one who needs to examine themselves.

i still yet to see you make any points other than you do it, your off the road for life


You need to sober up. I can't understand what you're even saying anymore.

789chan.org
/It's just so EASY with alcoholics...
 
2012-05-06 12:18:26 AM  
One more thing: You do not have to disclose shiat to your employer. If you have to drive a school bus or an 18-wheeler, that's of course completely different.
 
2012-05-06 12:21:42 AM  
To help clarify a few of the seemingly misunderstood situations here...

1) If you are paired up with one of these devices, it ISN'T your first rodeo. Probably not your second either. In the rare circumstance it WAS your first rodeo, it was also your lawyers.

2) If you don't like .08, put some proof together that shows a solid majority of the populous is perfectly capable of operating a motor vehicle safely at that BAL or higher. If you can manage that, you should have no problem getting the laws changed.

3) 1 beer will not push you over .08, unless you weigh 36 pounds or it's a 45 ounce beer.

4) Yes, you CAN get a DUI even being under the legal limit in certain circumstances.


Overall bottom line is just don't do it. Even in situations where you are perfectly capable of driving. Even in situations where you are seemingly doing everything "right", if you get into an accident and/or jebus-forbid kill someone, you are going to get farked-in-the-goat-ass.
 
2012-05-06 12:23:43 AM  
How do you even get pulled over if you're so good at driving while drunk?
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2012-05-06 12:26:05 AM  

fluffy2097:
/It's just so EASY with alcoholics...


Your right, all I am doing is feeding you. You are obviously just a dumbass and someone who cannot have a discussion to save their lives....
 
2012-05-06 01:00:16 AM  

Piizzadude: Your right, all I am doing is feeding you. You are obviously just a dumbass and someone who cannot have a discussion to save their lives....


I am not a dumbass.

I am the fool on the hill.
 
2012-05-06 01:10:27 AM  

fluffy2097: Piizzadude: Your right, all I am doing is feeding you. You are obviously just a dumbass and someone who cannot have a discussion to save their lives....

I am not a dumbass.

I am the fool on the hill.


Wow.....you are a real farking asshole.
 
2012-05-06 01:41:32 AM  

MrTuffPaws: Why the use of the cool tag? This is more scary than anything.


I'm reporting you for Thoughtcrime.

/Scary tag would have been more appropriate.
 
2012-05-06 01:48:12 AM  

fluffy2097: On a serious note Marine1,

They even have taxi services that have guys on minibikes dispatched, who drive you home in your own car.

I stand by my claim. If you drive drunk, you are an alcoholic.


There are huge parts of this country without taxi service. Jesus, get out a little.

/just saying
 
2012-05-06 02:08:28 AM  

Lsherm: fluffy2097: On a serious note Marine1,

They even have taxi services that have guys on minibikes dispatched, who drive you home in your own car.

I stand by my claim. If you drive drunk, you are an alcoholic.

There are huge parts of this country without taxi service. Jesus, get out a little.

/just saying


And if you drive hammered, you only might hit a bale of hay or a cow at worst.
 
2012-05-06 02:22:47 AM  

fluffy2097: Piizzadude: fluffy2097: Piizzadude: but I just had one or two

Oh! So now you've had TWO instead of just one.

Maybe it was 2 or 3... It's hard to remember isn't it.

It was definitely less then a 6 pack though. You're pretty sure of that. I think.

I don't think you read my statement correctly. i was saying that is a typical excuse., not my situation. Wow you are not perfect after all...Wait you made a mistake, I think because of that you lose your internet posting privileges for life.

Is that fair? You live in a black and white world where a mistake is intolerable.....

fluffy2097: You're just upset you don't have a coherent argument for any of my points.

All anyone can say is "Well I can drive just fine drunk." and "I can drive just fine drunk but I got caught and accepted it."

Perhaps I'm not the one who needs to examine themselves.

i still yet to see you make any points other than you do it, your off the road for life

You need to sober up. I can't understand what you're even saying anymore.

[789chan.org image 640x316]
/It's just so EASY with alcoholics...


I loled
 
2012-05-06 05:56:35 AM  

machoprogrammer: So part of probation for DUI is not to be drunk at all? That is kind of shiatty.


Well being as that a person has proven they can not be responsible when they drink, I would say it is appropriate.
 
2012-05-06 07:26:22 AM  

fluffy2097: LazarusLong42: Maybe It's crazy of me to say this, but last time I checked it wasn't illegal to drink. In fact, I believe it's legal to drink even if you've been convicted of DUI. Can someone explain how the hell this can even be vaguely interpreted as legal?

Because you've been convicted of being an alcoholic fark who drives while completely plastered. At that point, part of your punishment can in fact be that you are forbidden to drink alcohol.

Last time I checked it was illegal to imprison people yet we have prisons for criminals. How can that POSSIBLY be legal. Oh wait! They committed crimes!


lol
 
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2012-05-06 10:21:18 AM  
The exciting thing about this device is we will actually use your personal cell phone

I'm surprised to read this because some equipment maker had to give up the ability to bill for an extra phone. There is big money in DUI probation. Rent the interlock, pay for a class, pay a probation fee, etc.
 
2012-05-06 12:09:46 PM  

marksman: Wow.....you are a real farking asshole.


No I'm not.

I don't drink and drive!

26.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-06 12:50:19 PM  

fluffy2097: kroonermanblack: Opposite of cool.

While I can't defend DUI, I know several people who are on these blow machines. They've had thier licenses irrevocably suspended, but still have to blow several times a day. If you miss a blow, a single blow, for any reason, you go instantly to jail. Depending on your circumstances that may be a week in jail, or the revocation of a sentence, so 5-10 years in. Granted, it means you don't have to be in jail, so there's a benefit.

But it's rough enough trying to work a job while having one of these things with set schedules, if it was dropped to 'any time I want you're going to drop everything you're doing and blow' that's going to basically shiat can anyones chance of maintaining a job. Most of the people I know on them are absolutely scared shiatless and paranoid about missing a blow (and, as an aside, are sober, working a program, and in a sober living facility as well, so they're doing it for realz yo). Even if you've got the type that can be carried around (which is amusing, see: no car), you have to worry about it staying up and running and other issues.

Like I said, it's nice that they don't have to be in jail. But the machines aren't that great, and DUI is a recent invention. I'd honestly like to see any numbers of people killed by sincere DUI drivers, as opposed to MAD manipulated numbers, and cop bullshiat numbers.

As someone who has lost friends to alcoholic farkwits, your friends should have been sentenced to death by the judge. The fact that they are inconvenienced is no farking problem of mine. I don't drive drunk.


Everyone has someone who has died from someone doing "Stupid thing X". Your type seems to be the only who moans about it constantly.
 
2012-05-06 12:55:39 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Everyone has someone who has died from someone doing "Stupid thing X". Your type seems to be the only who moans about it constantly.


I had someone die from someone else doing "Stupid thing X"

And this thread is full of people moaning "I should be allowed to do stupid thing X"

Even though these people have already been CAUGHT doing stupid thing X, they still continue to think they can DO stupid thing X. Why? Because reasoning is the first thing to do when you are drunk.

I'm gonna ask again. All you people with DUI's. If you can drive drunk so well, WHY WERE YOU PULLED OVER?

I'm not moaning about anything. I'm laughing at losers tripping over their own empty beer cans trying to come up for an excuse as to why its racial profiling because the cops were stopping every person driving down that sidewalk.
 
2012-05-06 01:43:30 PM  
This is the dumbest farking thing I've ever heard.
 
2012-05-06 04:27:23 PM  

kroonermanblack: Opposite of cool.

While I can't defend DUI, I know several people who are on these blow machines. They've had thier licenses irrevocably suspended, but still have to blow several times a day. If you miss a blow, a single blow, for any reason, you go instantly to jail. Depending on your circumstances that may be a week in jail, or the revocation of a sentence, so 5-10 years in. Granted, it means you don't have to be in jail, so there's a benefit.

But it's rough enough trying to work a job while having one of these things with set schedules, if it was dropped to 'any time I want you're going to drop everything you're doing and blow' that's going to basically shiat can anyones chance of maintaining a job. Most of the people I know on them are absolutely scared shiatless and paranoid about missing a blow (and, as an aside, are sober, working a program, and in a sober living facility as well, so they're doing it for realz yo). Even if you've got the type that can be carried around (which is amusing, see: no car), you have to worry about it staying up and running and other issues.

Like I said, it's nice that they don't have to be in jail. But the machines aren't that great, and DUI is a recent invention. I'd honestly like to see any numbers of people killed by sincere DUI drivers, as opposed to MAD manipulated numbers, and cop bullshiat numbers.


The problem with society is that you've made entirely reasonable, realistic, and fact-based arguments. Yet, all of the people who have expressed disagreement with your statements have not provided one useful piece of statistical information in their own favor, and they CERTAINLY aren't bothering to discuss the merits of varying degrees of punishment depending on one's level of inebriation. They've bought the MADD and for-profit police department statements hook, line, and sinker, that somehow a beer after work is exactly the same as the 0.20 BAC man who is driving on the bike path, or that somehow distracted driving is not nearly the issue that DUI has become.
 
2012-05-06 04:30:20 PM  
Not to mention, of course, everyone's body is different. It's time to invest in driving simulators. Standing on one leg and counting to 20 DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ONE'S ABILITY TO DRIVE. If one were to have a device placed in their car that would record their wheel tracks, NEARLY EVERY INDIVIDUAL, AT SOME POINT, DRIVES OVER THE FOG, LANE, OR CENTER LINES OF A ROADWAY.

Oh, and I don't drive under the influence, since that seems to be another logical fallacy used by people who support blanket sentencing.
 
2012-05-06 04:35:19 PM  

fluffy2097: I'm gonna ask again. All you people with DUI's. If you can drive drunk so well, WHY WERE YOU PULLED OVER?


I've been pulled over and accused of DUI multiple times, all by the same officer, and all because of my appearance. Again, never arrested or charged, because I don't drive under the influence. I don't even take cold meds (people take cold/allergy meds every day, are RARELY charged with DUII even if they are the cause of an accident).

But, since we're talking about it, how many times have you driven under the influence of cold medication? Do you play with the radio when you drive? Eat? Carry on a conversation with passengers? What are your beliefs about allowing people 65 and older behind the wheel, or people with high blood pressure, diabetes, or other health issues that, at any time, could impair one's ability to hold steady behind the wheel? I mean, since DUI is so bad, how about the other things that people do every day that result in the injuries or deaths of drivers on our nation's highways?
 
2012-05-06 04:56:03 PM  

puffy999: fluffy2097: I'm gonna ask again. All you people with DUI's. If you can drive drunk so well, WHY WERE YOU PULLED OVER?

I've been pulled over and accused of DUI multiple times, all by the same officer, and all because of my appearance. Again, never arrested or charged, because I don't drive under the influence. I don't even take cold meds (people take cold/allergy meds every day, are RARELY charged with DUII even if they are the cause of an accident).

But, since we're talking about it, how many times have you driven under the influence of cold medication? Do you play with the radio when you drive? Eat? Carry on a conversation with passengers? What are your beliefs about allowing people 65 and older behind the wheel, or people with high blood pressure, diabetes, or other health issues that, at any time, could impair one's ability to hold steady behind the wheel? I mean, since DUI is so bad, how about the other things that people do every day that result in the injuries or deaths of drivers on our nation's highways?


Actually, I'd like to know his (her? whatever) stance on distracted driving as well, since studies have shown that attempting to use a cell phone (regardless of wether you have a bluetooth or not, that was also shown to be entirely irrelevant to the crash test data in the same studies) to be worse than a .08 BAC for impaired reaction and decision making abilities behind the wheel.

That's right, using your phone makes you drive worse than someone over the legal limit.

Granted it doesn't make you drive worse than someone who's .50 or whatever, but that's not the legal limit; if you're on your phone, you've just become a DUI driver. Enjoy.
 
2012-05-06 05:05:47 PM  

fluffy2097: machodonkeywrestler: Everyone has someone who has died from someone doing "Stupid thing X". Your type seems to be the only who moans about it constantly.

I had someone die from someone else doing "Stupid thing X"

And this thread is full of people moaning "I should be allowed to do stupid thing X"

Even though these people have already been CAUGHT doing stupid thing X, they still continue to think they can DO stupid thing X. Why? Because reasoning is the first thing to do when you are drunk.

I'm gonna ask again. All you people with DUI's. If you can drive drunk so well, WHY WERE YOU PULLED OVER?

I'm not moaning about anything. I'm laughing at losers tripping over their own empty beer cans trying to come up for an excuse as to why its racial profiling because the cops were stopping every person driving down that sidewalk.



Sorry Charlie, you are.
 
2012-05-06 06:00:13 PM  

kroonermanblack: stance on distracted driving as well,


When you are piloting a ton of metal at speeds that will puree your body in an instant should you hit any of the moving vehicles around you, you drive your farking car, not talk on the phone.

I do not pick up my phone in the car. I don't program my GPS while moving. I don't even talk much to my passengers and when I do I trail off sentences because I'm to busy driving.

The one saving grace to driving while talking on a cell phone vs driving drunk is you have a chance to drop the phone and grab onto the wheel before you are killed by hitting an oncoming semi when you drift out of your lane.

/I've blown into breathalyzers for fun before too.
//There is no way I would ever let myself drive at .08
 
2012-05-06 06:02:54 PM  
Should a bus driver be allowed to drive at .08?
Should a commercial airline pilot be allowed to fly?
Would you feel comfortable knowing the conductor of the subway you are riding just finished off his second or third beer?

Then why is it OK for you to drive like that?
 
2012-05-06 06:28:33 PM  

PiffMan420: So You Just Got A DWI Dumbass: What to (and what not to do)

This is my own personal experience with the fine state of New Jersey. I am not an attorney and might be partially talking out of my ass. Still, I have to advice to give that I hope some heed.

0. Don't drink and drive. It's seriously a bad idea kids.

1. TAKE THE GODDAMN BREATH TEST:

Why? Even if one impliedly consented, what does it truly behoove them to allow BAC measurement of any kind? The per se evidence is prejudiced to the point of its accuracy as a true measure of blood alcohol content.
 
2012-05-06 06:46:22 PM  

no icon tact: Why? Even if one impliedly consented, what does it truly behoove them to allow BAC measurement of any kind? The per se evidence is prejudiced to the point of its accuracy as a true measure of blood alcohol content.


You can argue a breathalyzer is inaccurate.

If you refuse one, you get arrested and they take a blood sample from you. You will not be able to argue that is inaccurate.

Also, the cops let you go if you blow under .08
 
2012-05-06 06:54:00 PM  
Every eighth drunk driver should be summarily executed.
 
2012-05-06 07:09:47 PM  

no icon tact: what does it truly behoove them to allow BAC measurement of any kind?


Well. It behooves you to blow into the meter when you're SOBER.

Maybe you should try that.
 
2012-05-06 10:24:42 PM  

fluffy2097: kroonermanblack: stance on distracted driving as well,

When you are piloting a ton of metal at speeds that will puree your body in an instant should you hit any of the moving vehicles around you, you drive your farking car, not talk on the phone.

I do not pick up my phone in the car. I don't program my GPS while moving. I don't even talk much to my passengers and when I do I trail off sentences because I'm to busy driving.

The one saving grace to driving while talking on a cell phone vs driving drunk is you have a chance to drop the phone and grab onto the wheel before you are killed by hitting an oncoming semi when you drift out of your lane.

/I've blown into breathalyzers for fun before too.
//There is no way I would ever let myself drive at .08


Right. And that's how I know you're a lieing shiatbag. It was a good round though. You def. played it to the hilt, but you played it too much.


no icon tact: PiffMan420: So You Just Got A DWI Dumbass: What to (and what not to do)

This is my own personal experience with the fine state of New Jersey. I am not an attorney and might be partially talking out of my ass. Still, I have to advice to give that I hope some heed.

0. Don't drink and drive. It's seriously a bad idea kids.

1. TAKE THE GODDAMN BREATH TEST:

Why? Even if one impliedly consented, what does it truly behoove them to allow BAC measurement of any kind? The per se evidence is prejudiced to the point of its accuracy as a true measure of blood alcohol content.


If you really want to get into the specific legal stuff, it varies per state. I think the last recomendation I heard for Texas was that you refuse to blow, because the calibration can be off, giving a false positive, and force them to get a warrant for your blood. Unless it's a DUI weekend, they're going to have to wake up a judge for it, and it's basically going to make everyone's life a little pissier, take a lot longer, be much more accurate, and give your body a lot longer to metabolize anything that's in your system (if you are actually concerned about blowing dirty).
 
2012-05-06 10:47:03 PM  

kroonermanblack:
If you really want to get into the specific legal stuff, it varies per state. I think the last recomendation I heard for Texas was that you refuse to blow, because the calibration can be off, giving a false positive, and force them to get a warrant for your blood. Unless it's a DUI weekend, they're going to have to wake up a judge for it, and it's basically going to make everyone's life a little pissier, take a lot longer, be much more accurate, and give your body a lot longer to metabolize anything that's in your system (if you are actually concerned about blowing dirty).


Most states that partake in blood grabbing have judges at the ready 24/7 for just such situations. It's often no trouble at all, and quite a speedy process.
 
2012-05-07 01:58:54 AM  
I am confused here.

Unless we are talking about chronic drunk drivers, driving is driving, drinking is drinking. Don't let the two meet.

Probation is fine, but why should the judge tell a casual DWI parolee that they can't drink.

Seems over the top.
 
2012-05-07 10:44:17 AM  

fluffy2097: lennavan: I just want you to know, I'm pretty sure these people were not the drunk driver that killed your friends. I mean, they might be in which case you are very justified in making posts like these but I'm hedging my bets these are not the same people. So you might relax just a little.

Drunk drivers are all the same people.

"I'M A GREAT DRIVER WHEN I'VE BEEN DRINKING I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN OR WHERE I'M GOING! THE TRICK IS TO PRETEND YOU'RE DRIVING A HOVERCRAFT BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU TRY AND AVOID SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY HIT IT! THE BAC LIMIT IS TO LOW! MADD SUCKS!"

Search your feelings Luke. You know it to be true.


Oh hehe, I didn't know you were just screwin around. I thought you were being serious. My sarcasm detector was apparently broken but I have fixed it now. Thanks =]
 
2012-05-07 11:09:10 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Incoming text from Judge Adams Mathis:

Blow me

 
2012-05-07 11:33:22 AM  

fluffy2097: kroonermanblack: Opposite of cool.

While I can't defend DUI, I know several people who are on these blow machines. They've had thier licenses irrevocably suspended, but still have to blow several times a day. If you miss a blow, a single blow, for any reason, you go instantly to jail. Depending on your circumstances that may be a week in jail, or the revocation of a sentence, so 5-10 years in. Granted, it means you don't have to be in jail, so there's a benefit.

But it's rough enough trying to work a job while having one of these things with set schedules, if it was dropped to 'any time I want you're going to drop everything you're doing and blow' that's going to basically shiat can anyones chance of maintaining a job. Most of the people I know on them are absolutely scared shiatless and paranoid about missing a blow (and, as an aside, are sober, working a program, and in a sober living facility as well, so they're doing it for realz yo). Even if you've got the type that can be carried around (which is amusing, see: no car), you have to worry about it staying up and running and other issues.

Like I said, it's nice that they don't have to be in jail. But the machines aren't that great, and DUI is a recent invention. I'd honestly like to see any numbers of people killed by sincere DUI drivers, as opposed to MAD manipulated numbers, and cop bullshiat numbers.

As someone who has lost friends to alcoholic farkwits, your friends should have been sentenced to death by the judge. The fact that they are inconvenienced is no farking problem of mine. I don't drive drunk.


No part of that is rehab.
 
2012-05-07 11:34:01 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: kroonermanblack: Opposite of cool.

While I can't defend DUI, I know several people who are on these blow machines. They've had thier licenses irrevocably suspended, but still have to blow several times a day. If you miss a blow, a single blow, for any reason, you go instantly to jail. Depending on your circumstances that may be a week in jail, or the revocation of a sentence, so 5-10 years in. Granted, it means you don't have to be in jail, so there's a benefit.

But it's rough enough trying to work a job while having one of these things with set schedules, if it was dropped to 'any time I want you're going to drop everything you're doing and blow' that's going to basically shiat can anyones chance of maintaining a job. Most of the people I know on them are absolutely scared shiatless and paranoid about missing a blow (and, as an aside, are sober, working a program, and in a sober living facility as well, so they're doing it for realz yo). Even if you've got the type that can be carried around (which is amusing, see: no car), you have to worry about it staying up and running and other issues.

Like I said, it's nice that they don't have to be in jail. But the machines aren't that great, and DUI is a recent invention. I'd honestly like to see any numbers of people killed by sincere DUI drivers, as opposed to MAD manipulated numbers, and cop bullshiat numbers.

Gee, sorry for the inconvenience. You can just go to jail for the 5-10 instead, off the top, and we'll skip the attempts at supervised release and rehabilitation.


meant to quote this...
 
2012-05-07 11:40:31 AM  

lennavan: Oh hehe, I didn't know you were just screwin around. I thought you were being serious. My sarcasm detector was apparently broken but I have fixed it now. Thanks =]


I have had more family killed on this website then I have family.

It's awesome how people continually fall for it.
 
2012-05-07 11:47:52 AM  

fluffy2097: lennavan: Oh hehe, I didn't know you were just screwin around. I thought you were being serious. My sarcasm detector was apparently broken but I have fixed it now. Thanks =]

I have had more family killed on this website then I have family.

It's awesome how people continually fall for it.


I had a younger sister and three friends who killed themselves as a direct result of falling for trolling on the internet so I cannot begin to tell you how bad of a person you are right now.
 
2012-05-07 12:00:14 PM  

lennavan: I had a younger sister and three friends who killed themselves as a direct result of falling for trolling on the internet so I cannot begin to tell you how bad of a person you are right now.


Oh shiat! That wasn't my line of dual action cleaning system bleachmonia was it? It's a two part solution you mix together on your floor that gives you the cleaning power of ammonia with the whitening power of bleach!
 
2012-05-08 05:24:12 AM  

Marine1: If only there were some sort of service that could be called when one was too intoxicated to drive... perhaps another individual who drove a vehicle full-time who had the profession of providing others with transportation. In theory, you could exchange a predetermined amount of currency or credit (we'll call it a "fare") in order to compensate this person. In exchange for this fare, they could drive you wherever you wanted to go, thus negating the chance of you being arrested by law enforcement for driving while intoxicated.

Maybe we could even paint the vehicles that these individuals would drive the same color across a fleet of vehicles to make sure that people could recognize what kind of car it was when they needed one. Better yet, give these vehicles a distinctive name... like... "taxi"... or something.

I hope that you guys don't think less of me for sharing this obviously-fevered dream. I just wish it were reality.


Easier to just drink at home....it's cheaper and taxis can be expensive. Plus you don't have to worry about anyone else (besides people who live with you or you invite over) and if you break anything it's your own stuff.
 
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