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2012-05-06 12:04:38 AM

verbaltoxin:
Oh and for the love of the gods, no origin story!!!


Seriously. Which is why I have exactly zero interest in the new Spiderman movie. I already know how he becomes f*cking Spiderman, I don't want to sit through another hour plus of that just to see a new villain or storyline.
 
2012-05-06 12:09:11 AM

ZeroCorpse: Here's the only thing I didn't like about The Avengers: They didn't change the scene where Black Widow knocks out a guy by whipping her hair in his face.

I'd have thought they would have heard the Internet complaining about it, and found a better angle or fixed it somehow... But they didn't. It's still there. Black Widow whips her hair back, and the guy goes down. Her head is nowhere near his face, and it's glaringly obvious.


Welp, here's the thing: When you have an Oscar-winning movie that had a scene where one character punched another and clearly swung at air but yet no one really says anything because the rest of the movie was fantastic, you really shouldn't have any complaints re: Black Widow.

The movie I'm referring to: "The Godfather." The scene: Where Sonny beats the holy hell out of Carlo on street after Carlo assaulted his wife (Sonny's sister). One of his punches clearly swung and missed but Carlo went down anyway like he got decked. Now, I'm in no way shape or form comparing "The Avengers" to "The Godfather," but if something as glaringly obvious as a missed punch happens and everyone goes "meh" about it in "The Godfather," then...we really shouldn't complain about something as minute as that in "The Avengers."
 
2012-05-06 12:19:48 AM

chewielouie: DamnYankees: Just saw the Avengers - can't believe there's no thread today on point, so I guess this comes closest.

It was good. IMO, it's the third best of this series of movies, behind the first Iron Man and Captain America. Some very good moments in the film, some very nice laughs, and the Hulk absolutely steals the show. But it's not really 'great' - I can't really see myself seeing it again. It was just...pleasant.

Solid 8/10.

Your opinion sucks. As good as IM and CA were, The Avengers is far and away better. I had my doubts, but the movie struck a perfect balance among all the the characters. It has been YEARS since I've been in a theatre where the audience howled in laughter and roared with thunderous applause . . . several times. Ok, I silently groaned at the flying aircraft carrier with a cloaking device, but that was the only real strike against it. All in all, The Avengers far exceeded my expectations.

An argument could be made that this is the best superhero movie ever. I can't wait to get it on Blu-ray, I'm gonna crack some walls in my house.


I agree 100 percent good sir!

Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, All good films, but Avengers is even better than those! The Audience was reacting and responding in a way I haven't seen in a very very long time. It was an incredible experience, and an incredible movie. You'd have to be a very cynical jackass to dislike the film, and if you liked ANY of those other super hero flicks you will LOVE this film.

Now opinions will always very, but for anyone who hasn't seen it, there is a damn reason its being spoken of so highly.


/1 showing already, 1 more scheduled with friends tuesday, probably watch it another time tomorrow.
 
2012-05-06 12:25:11 AM
I just got home from the movies. I loved it! It had the perfect mix of action/comedy/drama and none of the origion stories. It was super heros being awesome.
 
2012-05-06 12:34:57 AM
Also, I'd like to go on record: History of Violence and Road to Perdition are NOT comic book movies. They are movies based off of GRAPHIC NOVELS (serialized graphic novels.)
 
2012-05-06 12:47:14 AM

Trocadero: Also, I'd like to go on record: History of Violence and Road to Perdition are NOT comic book movies. They are movies based off of GRAPHIC NOVELS (serialized graphic novels.)


WELL LA DEE DA
 
2012-05-06 12:49:06 AM

Apos: And for those who are complaining about Scarlett's acting,just know that she's a veritable thespian compared to the likes of January Jones and Kristen Stewart. Not to mention more luscious.



There. I said it.


No kidding. They could have cast a wooden block as Emma Frost in First Class and you would have seen a better performance. I think people are just looking for something to biatch about. I thought Widow got enough screen time, she played a key role, they established her and Hawkeye's characters and SJ did a good job with the role. My only complaint was that I couldn't focus on the flying ships in 3D.
 
2012-05-06 12:55:16 AM

Mentat: Apos: And for those who are complaining about Scarlett's acting,just know that she's a veritable thespian compared to the likes of January Jones and Kristen Stewart. Not to mention more luscious.



There. I said it.

No kidding. They could have cast a wooden block as Emma Frost in First Class and you would have seen a better performance. I think people are just looking for something to biatch about. I thought Widow got enough screen time, she played a key role, they established her and Hawkeye's characters and SJ did a good job with the role. My only complaint was that I couldn't focus on the flying ships in 3D.


I'd vowed that the only movie I'd see in 3D this year was Prometheus. This flick is just as enjoyable in 2D.
 
2012-05-06 12:58:56 AM
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"Too Jewish."
 
2012-05-06 01:01:14 AM

Mr. Chainsaw: verbaltoxin:
Oh and for the love of the gods, no origin story!!!

Seriously. Which is why I have exactly zero interest in the new Spiderman movie. I already know how he becomes f*cking Spiderman, I don't want to sit through another hour plus of that just to see a new villain or storyline.


I especially little interest in yet another Spiderman origin story when Andrew Garfield's attempt at an American accent is as all over the map as it was in the trailer. If his accent slippage is that noticeable in the trailer, I can't imagine it as anything but worse in the actual movie. An origin story with a British Spiderman who can't even keep his accent doesn't seem like a fun couple of hours, and even more so if the movie 3D is as gimmicky as it was in the trailer.
 
2012-05-06 01:07:18 AM

Trocadero: Also, I'd like to go on record: History of Violence and Road to Perdition are NOT comic book movies. They are movies based off of GRAPHIC NOVELS (serialized graphic novels.)


Only people insecure about their hobby get persnickety about the whole graphic novel thing. Theyre comic books, and theres nothing wrong with that.


Mentat: My only complaint was that I couldn't focus on the flying ships in 3D.


It wasnt just the 3d, they were kind of a blurry mess in the 2d also, i probably couldnt sketch one if you paid me.
 
2012-05-06 01:45:41 AM

Mentat: I thought Widow got enough screen time, she played a key role, they established her and Hawkeye's characters and SJ did a good job with the role


Agreed, she did fine. I'm not entirely sure there's enough there to carry a solo movie, but if they get a decent writer/director, I'll go see it.
 
2012-05-06 01:59:32 AM
I just have to feel bad for Emily Blunt. If it wasn't for that horrible Gulliver's Travels movie, she would be starring in The Avengers instead of being in a comedy that is being trounced by it. That has to go down in history as one of the worst times an actor has ever gotten screwed by a role.
 
2012-05-06 02:05:06 AM
Not even her T&A factor inspired any particular need to delve into the character of Black Widow.

Honestly, marketing the Avengers as a buddy movie with Stark and Ruffalo's Banner would be way more accurate. And far more valid than exploring Johannson's role as a spy for any country, She's simply too dumb to pull off any of her lines without a rainman to bail her our.
 
2012-05-06 02:08:31 AM

chewielouie: DjangoStonereaver: chewielouie: Ok, I silently groaned at the flying aircraft carrier with a cloaking device, but that was the only real strike against it. All in all, The Avengers far exceeded my expectations.

Considering that the invisible cloaked Helicarrier is straight out of the Marvel
Silver age, and one of my personal favorite bits of OTT Marvel silliness of all,
that was one of the points in the movie where I was in danger of drenching the
seat with my nerdgasm.

"Someone get these motherfarkin' Hyrda agents off my motherfarkin' helicarrier!"

It was a silent groan, but OK, you convinced me with your nerdgasm. I had a few myself starting with Cap. confronting Loki. Some would call it cheese, cliche or predictable, but it was simply awesome.


The whole confrontation between Stark and Loki was just sheer genius as far
as I'm concerned, as was Cap standing up (just) to a full on smash from
Thor with the hammer, and a later, more subtle, shot of Thor and Cap as
mirror images of each other holding their respective iconic weapons.
 
2012-05-06 02:10:40 AM

Mad_Radhu: I just have to feel bad for Emily Blunt. If it wasn't for that horrible Gulliver's Travels movie, she would be starring in The Avengers instead of being in a comedy that is being trounced by it. That has to go down in history as one of the worst times an actor has ever gotten screwed by a role.


Do you know who's having it 1000x worse than the delectable Ms. Blunt? None other than Miley Cyrus whose teen drama LOL was also released two days ago as part of a contractual agreement.


So...yeah.


Hey,hey,hey....PartyWailing in the U.S.A.!
 
2012-05-06 02:39:47 AM

Mugato: Ugh the Ang Lee version was horrible


Don't make him Ang Lee. You wouldn't like him when he's Ang Lee.
 
2012-05-06 03:42:49 AM
Forget Scarlett, Cobie Smulders is the one I want to see suit up in her S.H.I.E.L.D. outfit again.
 
2012-05-06 03:45:07 AM
I think for a Black Widow movie, you might have to go the Xena route and have her deal with fallout from her past, when she was less selective about whom she killed.
 
2012-05-06 03:46:10 AM

vrax: Forget Scarlett, Cobie Smulders is the one I want to see suit up in her S.H.I.E.L.D. outfit again.


Yeah, she drew my eye more than any other woman in the movie. Never seen any of her other work, but she looks great in uniform.
 
2012-05-06 03:48:28 AM

Alphax: I think for a Black Widow movie, you might have to go the Xena route and have her deal with fallout from her past, when she was less selective about whom she killed.


On second thought, that might be a bit too close to the IM2 plot, with Ivan going after Stark for his family.
 
2012-05-06 04:02:25 AM

DamnYankees: Just saw the Avengers - can't believe there's no thread today on point, so I guess this comes closest.

It was good. IMO, it's the third best of this series of movies, behind the first Iron Man and Captain America. Some very good moments in the film, some very nice laughs, and the Hulk absolutely steals the show. But it's not really 'great' - I can't really see myself seeing it again. It was just...pleasant.

Solid 8/10.


I saw it today, really enjoyed it. it was Way funnier than I thought it would end up being. Hulk COMPLETELY steals the movie.

I'd say
Iron Man
Avengers
Captain America
Iron Man2
Thor
Incredible Hulk
...
....
rancid milk
....
Ang Lee Hulk.

/8.75 out of 10
 
2012-05-06 04:09:33 AM

Alphax: vrax: Forget Scarlett, Cobie Smulders is the one I want to see suit up in her S.H.I.E.L.D. outfit again.

Yeah, she drew my eye more than any other woman in the movie. Never seen any of her other work, but she looks great in uniform.


She plays Robin in How I Met Your Mother. Since the show stars two other Whedon favorites, Neil Patrick Harris and Alyson Hannigan, I have to wonder if her co-workers put a good word in for her with Whedon when he was casting Maria Hill.
 
2012-05-06 04:13:22 AM

Mad_Radhu: She plays Robin in How I Met Your Mother.


Yeah, her IMDB entry has a ton of pics on her from the show. She dresses a lot more casual for that.
 
2012-05-06 04:16:19 AM

Alphax: I think for a Black Widow movie, you might have to go the Xena route and have her deal with fallout from her past, when she was less selective about whom she killed.


As Elektra painfully demonstrated,this...might not be the best cinematic route(and the former is actually the more compelling of the two assassins in the comics).
 
2012-05-06 04:43:54 AM

DamnYankees: Just saw the Avengers - can't believe there's no thread today on point, so I guess this comes closest.

It was good. IMO, it's the third best of this series of movies, behind the first Iron Man and Captain America. Some very good moments in the film, some very nice laughs, and the Hulk absolutely steals the show. But it's not really 'great' - I can't really see myself seeing it again. It was just...pleasant.

Solid 8/10.


Captain America sucked. Great troll.
 
2012-05-06 05:03:16 AM

Mad_Radhu: two other Whedon favorites


Alexis Denisof also has a teensy but important role, by the way.
 
2012-05-06 06:34:05 AM

texdent: He's my brother
He has killed 80 people in the last two days
....He's adopted


That was an awesome line!
 
2012-05-06 06:41:41 AM

likefunbutnot: Mad_Radhu: two other Whedon favorites

Alexis Denisof also has a teensy but important role, by the way.


And Enver Gokaj was a cop according to the credits, but I must have missed it.
 
2012-05-06 07:14:14 AM

DamnYankees: ArcadianRefugee: CA and IM2 were both better.

Whoa whoa whoa. I didn't say IM2 was better. That movie stunked.


Typo. IM1.
 
2012-05-06 07:21:29 AM
I like the first Iron Man movie, and have rewatched it about a dozen times, but I wouldn't put it above The Avengers. I think the actors mostly came up with their own dialogue, which didn't always work, and Col. Rhoads didn't have a lot to do.
 
2012-05-06 07:57:53 AM

DamnYankees: Mugato: DamnYankees: That's not remotely true. The best comic book movie ever made is either The Dark Knight or A History of Violence. I think you're overly pigeonholing what a comic book can be.

Road to Perdition is a comic book movie. I think it's reasonable to categorize them a little for the sake of discussion,

I agree, its ok to categorize them, but I think we should at least do so properly.

Frankly, I think Iron Man is better than the Avengers, so I don't think there's really any way to categorize these movies to make The Avengers the best of its category, but maybe someone can.


Not a comic book movie, but if we're talking super hero movies I'd put Incredibles above Iron Man and maybe even Dark Knight.
 
2012-05-06 09:31:31 AM

Carth: Not a comic book movie, but if we're talking super hero movies I'd put Incredibles above Iron Man and maybe even Dark Knight.


I would never compare Incredibles to TDK, but it is by far my favorite pixar movie...

And (not to you necessarily) what is this fascination with ranking movies in general. It's sort-of silly.
My scale is simple
0. no interest in seeing it. not in a boat. not with a goat.
1. did I watch some of it then bailed (generally presumes DVD rental or netflix)
2. did I watch the whole thing
3. did I watch it in the theater
4. did I watch it in the theater, and later rewatch on netflix or add the DVD when it's on sale.
5. did I watch it in the theater, and later add it to my blueray library

Avengers is a 5. TDK is a 5.

But what's the point of saying one movie is better than another? When it comes down to it, you liked them both. Both of them entertained your face off for a few hours, which is all movies are supposed to do.
Of course, it's fine if you feel you must declare movie A is better than movie B, but saying someone else is wrong for thinking differently than you is plain goofy. Clearly you have a different set of metrics for better-ness. We all have our own sets... No movie will be perfect in everyone's eyes. Just be entertained, or not, and then get on with your wonderful life... cheers
 
2012-05-06 09:53:14 AM

Cyno01: Only people insecure about their hobby get persnickety about the whole graphic novel thing. Theyre comic books, and theres nothing wrong with that.


While I see your point, and have no problem with it in general, I think they point that they were, rather inflammatorialy, trying to put across was that certain comics, with a self contained story, can legitimately be called graphic novels. Because they are just that: Novels in graphic form.

Watchmen? Graphic novel. All 12 issues contain a full story, beginning, middle, end. Not necessary to have any information OUTSIDE of what is contained in those issues.

Batman? Comic book. On-going storyline, call backs to previous history, etc. Even self contained Batman stories (Killing Joke, Long Halloween.) which border on graphic novels, are not, themselves, graphic novels. And, no, I can't really put into words why I think that (Mainly because I'm running on about 3 hours of sleep and only one cup of coffee, so far.), but there IS a line demarcating the two.
 
2012-05-06 10:16:11 AM

wjllope: Carth: Not a comic book movie, but if we're talking super hero movies I'd put Incredibles above Iron Man and maybe even Dark Knight.

I would never compare Incredibles to TDK, but it is by far my favorite pixar movie...

And (not to you necessarily) what is this fascination with ranking movies in general. It's sort-of silly.
My scale is simple
0. no interest in seeing it. not in a boat. not with a goat.
1. did I watch some of it then bailed (generally presumes DVD rental or netflix)
2. did I watch the whole thing
3. did I watch it in the theater
4. did I watch it in the theater, and later rewatch on netflix or add the DVD when it's on sale.
5. did I watch it in the theater, and later add it to my blueray library

Avengers is a 5. TDK is a 5.

But what's the point of saying one movie is better than another? When it comes down to it, you liked them both. Both of them entertained your face off for a few hours, which is all movies are supposed to do.
Of course, it's fine if you feel you must declare movie A is better than movie B, but saying someone else is wrong for thinking differently than you is plain goofy. Clearly you have a different set of metrics for better-ness. We all have our own sets... No movie will be perfect in everyone's eyes. Just be entertained, or not, and then get on with your wonderful life... cheers


I don't think ranking movies is Serious Business. It is just something fun to talk and argue about to see what other people think.
 
2012-05-06 10:25:35 AM

flamingboar: I just got home from the movies. I loved it! It had the perfect mix of action/comedy/drama and none of the origion stories. It was super heros being awesome.


It succeeded in one of the two areas where Jackson's Lord of the Rings failed so abysmally - it didn't shoehorn in character development except as it related to the unfolding scenario. Everyone in LotR had matured "off screen" and had no internal conflicts in the books. The quest refined the characters a bit, and they learned, but all of them came in competent and knowing who they were and what they were doing.

Avengers captured that perfectly. The characters developed a bit as they got used to each other, but they had done their maturing elsewhere, and we were seeing a perfect snippet of competent characters teaming up to achieve something, and not artificial emo-boys having to grow up doing something completely out of the artificial character.
 
2012-05-06 11:20:45 AM
I think she is overrated. Sure, she is highly farkable but not to the extent of all this attention she gets.

/ how many posts before someone posts a "Hi, gay called, it is for you" picture in reply?
 
2012-05-06 11:38:11 AM

HaywoodJablonski: DamnYankees: Just saw the Avengers - can't believe there's no thread today on point, so I guess this comes closest.

It was good. IMO, it's the third best of this series of movies, behind the first Iron Man and Captain America. Some very good moments in the film, some very nice laughs, and the Hulk absolutely steals the show. But it's not really 'great' - I can't really see myself seeing it again. It was just...pleasant.

Solid 8/10.

Captain America sucked. Great troll.


No, he actually believes this. You on the other hand are trolling. Captain America didn't suck, YOU SUCK!
 
2012-05-06 11:40:48 AM

MBA Whore: I think she is overrated. Sure, she is highly farkable but not to the extent of all this attention she gets.

/ how many posts before someone posts a "Hi, gay called, it is for you" picture in reply?


gifsforum.com
 
2012-05-06 11:52:19 AM

Carousel Beast: It succeeded in one of the two areas where Jackson's Lord of the Rings failed so abysmally


Yeah, those movies were such failures.
 
2012-05-06 12:02:38 PM

DamnYankees: Carousel Beast: It succeeded in one of the two areas where Jackson's Lord of the Rings failed so abysmally

Yeah, those movies were such failures.


As fantasy movies, they were among the best ever. As Lord of the Rings movies, they sucked balls. Most every key point of the books were chucked in favor of invented crap.

Jackson's LotR was the equivalent of the 1998 Godzilla. As a flick called "The Giant Radioactive Lizard that Attacked New York" it was a fun flick. As a Godzilla movie, it failed across the board.
 
2012-05-06 12:11:08 PM

chewielouie: HaywoodJablonski: DamnYankees: Just saw the Avengers - can't believe there's no thread today on point, so I guess this comes closest.

It was good. IMO, it's the third best of this series of movies, behind the first Iron Man and Captain America. Some very good moments in the film, some very nice laughs, and the Hulk absolutely steals the show. But it's not really 'great' - I can't really see myself seeing it again. It was just...pleasant.

Solid 8/10.

Captain America sucked. Great troll.

No, he actually believes this. You on the other hand are trolling. Captain America didn't suck, YOU SUCK!


It did, and I don't.
 
2012-05-06 12:17:10 PM

HaywoodJablonski: No, he actually believes this. You on the other hand are trolling. Captain America didn't suck, YOU SUCK!

It did, and I don't.


It didn't and you did.
Two against one, asshole.
 
2012-05-06 12:25:43 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: HaywoodJablonski: No, he actually believes this. You on the other hand are trolling. Captain America didn't suck, YOU SUCK!

It did, and I don't.

It didn't and you did.
Two against one, asshole.


Terrible dialogue, hokey superhero, lame plot, ridiculous supporting characters. Those are my gripes. Where am I wrong?
 
2012-05-06 12:30:27 PM
I get it. I get it. TDK is the most important film in the history of the universe there will never be a movie that bests the 2hrs of angst and growling intensity... yada yada yada.

Sorry I like to laugh and cheer and have a freaking good time at a comic book movie not saying TDK is bad but please people it isn't the end all be all.

Also the eye candy is way better in the Avengers.... personally I love me some Sherbotsky.
 
2012-05-06 12:32:07 PM
Gotta say that "Thor" was not a good movie. It should have been titled, "Avengers Movie Villain Intro".


The YT vid with what the Hulk says in that scene is gone. Anyone? EIP.
 
2012-05-06 12:33:16 PM

tartie_pants: Sorry I like to laugh and cheer and have a freaking good time at a comic book movie


Yes, because those of us who think The Avengers is merely a very good movie and not a great one simply don't like fun. That's our problem. You got us.
 
2012-05-06 12:34:24 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Rev. Skarekroe: HaywoodJablonski: No, he actually believes this. You on the other hand are trolling. Captain America didn't suck, YOU SUCK!

It did, and I don't.

It didn't and you did.
Two against one, asshole.

Terrible dialogue, hokey superhero, lame plot, ridiculous supporting characters. Those are my gripes. Where am I wrong?


Pretty much across the board.
 
2012-05-06 12:47:21 PM

Carousel Beast: As fantasy movies, they were among the best ever. As Lord of the Rings movies, they sucked balls. Most every key point of the books were chucked in favor of invented crap.


I don't want to threadjack but there are a dozen Avengers threads right now so I can digress a bit and this sort of relates.

The LOTR movies were incredible achievements in many areas. I wish I was the filmmaker Peter Jackson is. But as someone who never read the book(s), there were some plot holes and a lot of plot points that seemed like deus ex machina (pulling things out of your ass with no background) That I would have gotten if I read them but no film should have required reading. And of course he could have used a tighter editor but that's Jackson and another issue.

A lot of comic book movies can be like that but the Avengers wasn't and not just because there were movies preceding it. It's because all the characters were relatable in some way and the script was tight enough so I didn't think, "Hey, why didn't that guy use that power to do that when he should have?". Everything just meshed well. No, I didn't and still don't know who the bad guy was who revealed himself in the post-credit sequence but I get from the audience reaction and from the gravitas of the scene itself that he's important so I get it.

And Godzilla sucked, no matter what it would have been called.
 
2012-05-06 12:49:27 PM
Holy crap they are saying Avengers hit 200 million this weekend.
 
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