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(WTKR)   Man who stole Navy SEAL's bio and pulled it off well enough to fool CNN reporters outed as just an empty bucket   (wtkr.com) divider line 102
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2012-05-05 12:07:11 PM
Stolen valor. fark him.
 
2012-05-05 12:09:32 PM
Take him to the gallows pole
 
2012-05-05 12:10:30 PM
Why didn't Obama keep this man in check?
 
2012-05-05 12:12:06 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Stolen valor. fark him.


I feel what you feel, plus I feel a sort of pity for the guy. Why would you lie to so many people? The only thing I can think of is you are missing a massive piece of some sort of fulfillment in your life.

But yes, that's a reason, and NOT an excuse. Fark him.
 
2012-05-05 12:14:45 PM

ultraholland: Why didn't Obama keep this man in check?


-9285097294795209857208749752987345 / 10. Seriously. : )
 
2012-05-05 12:15:09 PM

TimonC346: AverageAmericanGuy: Stolen valor. fark him.

I feel what you feel, plus I feel a sort of pity for the guy. Why would you lie to so many people? The only thing I can think of is you are missing a massive piece of some sort of fulfillment in your life.

But yes, that's a reason, and NOT an excuse. Fark him.


People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.
 
2012-05-05 12:15:18 PM
Well...since he's so badass the military should recruit him specially. Take him over to Afghanistan...say Helmand province and let him clean up things over there. I'm sure he'll have it all settled in a matter of weeks.
 
2012-05-05 12:17:43 PM
FLYNAVY is still up to his old tricks, huh?
 
2012-05-05 12:18:17 PM
That what the call living the dream now days. I'm sure there are a lot of people who make up a whole new past when they meet strangers.
 
2012-05-05 12:18:37 PM
I love that the report gives his name, city, street and email. I kind of feel sorry for what's about to happen to him.
 
2012-05-05 12:19:26 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.

Why is the military so special versus any other field? It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud. As loathsome as this fella is, pieces of shiat are still afforded the basic right to be a piece of shiat.
 
2012-05-05 12:20:01 PM

TimonC346: AverageAmericanGuy: Stolen valor. fark him.

I feel what you feel, plus I feel a sort of pity for the guy. Why would you lie to so many people? The only thing I can think of is you are missing a massive piece of some sort of fulfillment in your life.

But yes, that's a reason, and NOT an excuse. Fark him.


Even more creepy is the effort he put into crafting this lie.
 
2012-05-05 12:20:23 PM
Also, a 6 year trek in the Army to become a PFC? lololololl
 
2012-05-05 12:20:36 PM
Send him to actual SEAL training.
"If you last the course, you get to leave and we won't prosecute. Otherwise..."
 
2012-05-05 12:21:45 PM

Dr. Quasius: I kind of feel sorry for what's about to happen to him.


Like being kidnapped by Seals who make him think they are Al Queda while they torture him for military secrets?
/He won't talk.
 
2012-05-05 12:22:06 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: TimonC346: AverageAmericanGuy: Stolen valor. fark him.

I feel what you feel, plus I feel a sort of pity for the guy. Why would you lie to so many people? The only thing I can think of is you are missing a massive piece of some sort of fulfillment in your life.

But yes, that's a reason, and NOT an excuse. Fark him.

People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.


They should be outed, humiliated, and seen for the mental midgets they are, but they should only be locked up if they try to use it to claim VA benefits.
 
2012-05-05 12:22:55 PM

ultraholland: AverageAmericanGuy: People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.

Why is the military so special versus any other field? It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud. As loathsome as this fella is, pieces of shiat are still afforded the basic right to be a piece of shiat.


The military is the only part of our society that is literally putting their lives on the line every day to protect the freedoms that we have. That's why its so special.
 
2012-05-05 12:23:04 PM
It sounds like a certain "wife-like typist" has moved on from "the core".
 
2012-05-05 12:24:56 PM

ultraholland: AverageAmericanGuy: People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.

It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud.


FTFA : "The woman says when she first questioned Creekmur's claims, he sent her his DD-214. That's a military document detailing a service member's assignments."

Forgery of official federal documents is prosecutable.
 
2012-05-05 12:26:53 PM

ultraholland: Why is the military so special versus any other field? It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud.


Falsifying official records - DD-214
Identity theft
"special treatment" - "routinely corresponds with CNN reporters to offer his opinion and expertise on military stories." If he was just Joe Blow ex-Army dude, he would not get that treatment
 
2012-05-05 12:28:04 PM
I don't see the thrill in having other people think I'm a baby-killer, but that's just me.
 
2012-05-05 12:28:35 PM

ultraholland: AverageAmericanGuy: People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.

Why is the military so special versus any other field? It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud. As loathsome as this fella is, pieces of shiat are still afforded the basic right to be a piece of shiat.


What this man is doing is completely disgusting and makes me sick. However I'm still all for the right to be a lying douchebag. Others can out him as a total loser as a civilian penalty.

BUT, making up a DD-214 is totally crossing the line. That deserves some poundmeintheass.
 
2012-05-05 12:29:41 PM
Oh and also obviously the little bit o' identity theft of mr Master Chief badass.

There are the tools that pretend they served. Then there is this criminal.
 
2012-05-05 12:31:06 PM
Brian Leonard Creekmur, Internet Tough Guy

News flash Brian:

scrapetv.com
 
2012-05-05 12:33:08 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't see the thrill in having other people think I'm a baby-killer, but that's just me.


Hey, FARK YOU.

That is all.
 
2012-05-05 12:35:09 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't see the thrill in having other people think I'm a baby-killer, but that's just me.


Chicks really dig ear necklaces especially tiny baby ears.

/Chicks are weird like that
 
2012-05-05 12:39:14 PM
To all who would steal valor...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-05 12:39:54 PM
img364.imageshack.us

Empty buckets have feelings too, man.
 
2012-05-05 12:43:40 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-05 12:45:53 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't see the thrill in having other people think I'm a baby-killer, but that's just me.


Whoa! SEALs get to kill babies? Why am I just hearing about this now? They need to get that info on their recruitment materials ASAP.

/until this moment I never had a regret
//could have been killing babies for decades.
///Decades!
 
2012-05-05 12:46:33 PM
He routinely corresponds with CNN reporters to offer his opinion and expertise on military stories. Here he tells Soledad O'Brien about all the death he's seen in combat. She resent his message to her more than 140-thousand followers. CNN would not comment for our story.

So some random lady off the internet does better fact checking than a left wing CNN anchor. What a coont. Nice to see the liebutturds haven't changed their news reporting standards since Jordan Eason, the head of CNN, accused U.S. troops of intentionally targetting journalists.
 
2012-05-05 12:49:56 PM

OscarTamerz: So some random lady off the internet does better fact checking than a left wing CNN anchor. What a coont. Nice to see the liebutturds haven't changed their news reporting standards since Jordan Eason, the head of CNN, accused U.S. troops of intentionally targetting journalists.


This speaks volumes about CNN's actual standards as a news organization.


HHAHAHAHAHAHA shiat I just realized I called CNN a news organization.
 
2012-05-05 12:50:07 PM

ShamWowofDamocles: could have been killing babies for decades.


... does joining the SEALs make it retroactively legal? Because... um... I ah... I need to clean out my basement.
 
2012-05-05 12:50:42 PM
I have a friend who married a retired Seal. Nobody in their right mind would portray themselves as a Seal.
He has great stories, he was their "kidnap guy". He personally did Gadhaffi 2x and kicked him in the balls one of those times. He also had to swim in raw sewage and other things that you couldn't pay me to do as well as lost very close friends in the blackhawk down fiasco.

I'm a regular size guy (5'9" 180lb, ok shape from some MMA training) and I feel like a 5yo shaking his hand (he is 6'5" 300lb and very fit in mid 40s). I would do whatever it takes to avoid a fight with him and am very greatful we have guys like him on our side.

/Seen his scars, ID and enough medals to know it wasn't bs.
//I'm still brave/dumb enough to make fun of his very pregnant wife (AKA: Fatso).
///Hats off to all of you guys with the stones to do that sort of thing with your life.
 
2012-05-05 12:51:14 PM
One Bad Apple: Forgery of official federal documents is prosecutable.

well then charge his ass


AverageAmericanGuy: The military is the only part of our society that is literally putting their lives on the line every day to protect the freedoms that we have. That's why its so special.

the farking DOT road worker puts his life on the line every day, and I'd venture to say that he's helped me more than anyone in our two bullshiat wars*

*this statement in no way diminishes their service; they are simply doing what they have been instructed to do
 
2012-05-05 12:59:18 PM

ultraholland: Why didn't Obama keep this man in check?


He's one convincing savant
 
2012-05-05 01:06:15 PM
Once more, Virginia seeks its own tag . . .
 
2012-05-05 01:06:57 PM
Where it's this guy's picture? Facebook page?
 
2012-05-05 01:11:45 PM
I searched facebook, and apparently this douchebag took his page down. What a lying piece of shiat. Go die somewhere. The real seal he stole the bio from should be able to face off with him. I would pay good money to see that.
 
2012-05-05 01:18:35 PM

VTGremlin: FLYNAVY is still up to his old tricks, huh?


FlyNavy is to busy acting as a rear admiral - or whatever he wants to call himself in prison. (I wish)
 
2012-05-05 01:21:21 PM
Court-martial him! Let him know how military justice really feels.

/couple of years "at hard labor" might do him some good.
 
2012-05-05 01:22:28 PM
As the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy*, I'm appalled. I'm going to round up some of my fellow soldiers and show this guy how we handle liars in the Core. Then I'm going to finally get around to putting Jane Fonda over my knee. (I'd have done it sooner, but until a year ago, I was deep in enemy territory fulfilling the mission Commander-in-Chief Bush gave me on 9/12/2001 to kill Osama. And then "President" Obama had me writing letters of apology to all his wives ever since.)

/damn, I'm getting good at this
//* not really, but a cousin I've never met was (srsly)
 
2012-05-05 01:25:28 PM

semiotix: As the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy*, I'm appalled. I'm going to round up some of my fellow soldiers and show this guy how we handle liars in the Core. Then I'm going to finally get around to putting Jane Fonda over my knee. (I'd have done it sooner, but until a year ago, I was deep in enemy territory fulfilling the mission Commander-in-Chief Bush gave me on 9/12/2001 to kill Osama. And then "President" Obama had me writing letters of apology to all his wives ever since.)

/damn, I'm getting good at this
//* not really, but a cousin I've never met was (srsly)


Leave Hanoi Jane out of this.
 
2012-05-05 01:27:37 PM

TimonC346: AverageAmericanGuy: Stolen valor. fark him.

I feel what you feel, plus I feel a sort of pity for the guy. Why would you lie to so many people? The only thing I can think of is you are missing a massive piece of some sort of fulfillment in your life.

But yes, that's a reason, and NOT an excuse. Fark him.


I know a guy who is doing something quite similar to this. He isn't stealing anyone's identity in particular, but he does claim to be military and frequently tells stories of his various exploits. But the more you get to know the guy, the more his stories start to fall apart.

Anyway, you basically hit the nail on the head for his case. He is missing a massive piece of fulfilment in his life. His life just hasn't turned out how he wanted, he hasn't ever really achieved anything and deep down I don't think he believes that people will respect him for who he is. So he lies. He pretends he's something he is not. And it seems that for people like him and the guy in the article, it's often the military they fixate on. I guess because a great many people look up to those in the military so it's easy to use that to gain respect.

It's shameful to lie about this kind of stuff (and disgraceful if done to the extend of the guy in the article) but I do also pity these guys. They want to be anything but what they really are, they don't value themselves at all.
 
2012-05-05 01:30:40 PM
www.pownetwork.org

I actually want to see which medals he claims to have earned. For some reason fakes go way over the top and festoon themselves with every decoration including the one Leia hangs on Luke at the end of "Star Wars".
 
2012-05-05 01:31:23 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: ultraholland: AverageAmericanGuy: People who lie to gain admiration and respect reserved for the military should be locked up.

Why is the military so special versus any other field? It's not illegal to be a lying piece of shiat. If he used those lies to obtain services, items, or special treatment then charge him with fraud. As loathsome as this fella is, pieces of shiat are still afforded the basic right to be a piece of shiat.

The military is the only part of our society that is literally putting their lives on the line every day to protect the freedoms that we have. That's why its so special.


I think police officers, firefighters, and border patrol agents to name a few might take exception to that statement. But beyond that, you can't say that anyone is so special that an offense against that person or group means we forget about basic human rights. That would be the definition of un-American.

Also, I have to wonder why other peoples' opinions are apparently so important to so many military-types. I've seen the phrase "stolen valor" used at least twice in this thread already. Real valor and honor are not things that can be stolen. All that matters is that you know what you did, and that it was right. To act like a lack of admiration or recognition is some kind of insult makes it seem an awful lot like those were the most important things all along. Nothing that anyone else can do or say could every take away from what you did, they can only damage your ego.
 
2012-05-05 01:37:09 PM
FTFA: "If you looked at his tatoos and t-shirts you would believe he was a SEAL."

That's solid background investigating.
 
2012-05-05 01:42:10 PM
The fakes are usually easy to spot. Legitimate combat veterans really don't want to talk about their experiences and certainly don't brag about their service and accomplishments. With only a few exceptions, you won't walk into a veteran's home and see wall-to-wall memorabilia. If you do, it's most likely that 85 year old codger who fought in WW2 but by god, he's earned the right to decorate his home that way.

It's that guy who takes advantage of every opportunity to bring up his "prior service" stories in conversation, wears his grey Army t-shirt more than any other piece of clothing, has more than one Marine Corps sticker on his bumper, still keeps a high-n-tight haircut, and drops the whole "uh, I really don't want to talk about it" line when someone starts asking questions he can't answer.
 
2012-05-05 01:43:13 PM
I'm still laughing at how this pissant was in the Army for six years and didn't get past PFC. My father spent four years in the Air Force and got to staff sergeant without having to bust his ass for it (knowing my father, he didn't).
 
2012-05-05 01:48:49 PM

Gasconne: I'm still laughing at how this pissant was in the Army for six years and didn't get past PFC. My father spent four years in the Air Force and got to staff sergeant without having to bust his ass for it (knowing my father, he didn't).


Promotion systems differ greatly between services. If I recall Staff Sergeant is E-5, equivalent to a buck Sergeant in the Army. It's not terribly uncommon to see someone hit E-5 in the Army either depending on your MOS and cutoff scores. 6 years in and just a PFC (E-3) makes me think he got busted down at some point or something. Most of the time promotion to Specialist (E-4) comes automatically with a certain amount of time in service and time in grade. I want to say that happens around 36 months time in service, but it's been quite a while so I could be wrong.
 
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