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2012-05-05 01:49:50 PM
I think they just want women to be more 'bootstrappy'.
 
2012-05-05 01:49:59 PM
Pfft.

It's not like they called it the Prevention of Violence Against Women Act.
 
2012-05-05 01:50:09 PM
bugontherug: The Republican War on Women continues.

Now that's not true.

I've been told by the good people at Fox News that it's really the Democrats who have declared a War on Women because socialism or something...
 
2012-05-05 01:51:23 PM
Lenny_da_Hog: Pfft.

It's not like they called it the Prevention of Violence Against Women Act.


They really should have been more specific there, in hindsight.
 
2012-05-05 01:52:19 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: I'm actually getting kind of sick of this macro... That guy in that picture is probably an okay dude and doesn't deserve being associated with someone like SkinnyHead.

I love that guy (tard guy not Skinnyballs). He's just fascinating. Snappy dresser, tidy, pensive, apparently hates eyebrows. Dude has a story to tell and I want to hear it. He should be in those beer commercials with that suave motherfarker, who fences and has a tiger in his kitchen. I want to see one of those where the most interesting man in the world kills a pirate or wrestles a shark or something. Then he just looks up and there's tard guy, quietly nodding in approval, and then that suave cat gives him a fist bump and tells us to go get some Dos Equis. I would buy that beer.
 
2012-05-05 01:52:31 PM
Weaver95: DarwiOdrade: Forty-Two: Fark It: House Republicans say that some women have taken advantage of the confidentiality by fraudulently claiming abuse to acquire residency status. Victims who are not committing fraud, however, will now be exposed to retaliatory violence.

Wow. People are going to die because of this if the GOP gets their way.

But some people might abuse the system, therefore no one should have it! See also: welfare.

Yeah - never mind all the rich people and corporations that actually do abuse the tax system.

this has nothing to do with taxes or corporations...this is purely about manufactured outrage and spite towards vulnerable women.

I don't understand why the GOP is doing this. it makes no sense. it gains them nothing. but here we are just the same.


And yet the Democrats barely lead the Republicans on the generic ballot.

Link
 
2012-05-05 01:52:58 PM
hubiestubert: SkinnyHead: Weaver95: SkinnyHead: I'd say Senate democrats are the ones playing political games. They're the ones who inserted this new illegal alien provision into the VAWA in order to make the VAWA a political football.

let me ask you this question - what mistakes, if any, have the Republicans made over the past year? has the GOP ever, in your opinion, done ANYTHING wrong?

Is that your answer to the charge that this whole controversy has been manufactured by Senate democrats who added illegal alien provisions to the VAWA in order to draw fire.

Actually, I think that we are all interested if you just answered the question. Straight up. Consider it an opportunity to show the folks how free thinking and well considered you are.


But that would be off topic. I'm not the subject of this thread. The topic is how Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire, instead of crafting a bill that everyone can support.
 
2012-05-05 01:54:07 PM
GOP: focused on job creation.
 
2012-05-05 01:54:14 PM
SkinnyHead: I'm not the subject of this thread.

*cough*
 
2012-05-05 01:55:26 PM
Doctor Funkenstein: A Dark Evil Omen: I'm actually getting kind of sick of this macro... That guy in that picture is probably an okay dude and doesn't deserve being associated with someone like SkinnyHead.

I love that guy (tard guy not Skinnyballs). He's just fascinating. Snappy dresser, tidy, pensive, apparently hates eyebrows. Dude has a story to tell and I want to hear it. He should be in those beer commercials with that suave motherfarker, who fences and has a tiger in his kitchen. I want to see one of those where the most interesting man in the world kills a pirate or wrestles a shark or something. Then he just looks up and there's tard guy, quietly nodding in approval, and then that suave cat gives him a fist bump and tells us to go get some Dos Equis. I would buy that beer.


i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com

Guy gets around for sure
 
2012-05-05 01:56:18 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: [deus-ex-machinima.net image 396x303]

I'm actually getting kind of sick of this macro... That guy in that picture is probably an okay dude and doesn't deserve being associated with someone like SkinnyHead.


Yes, it is really unfair to the guy to be grouped with SkinnyHead.
 
2012-05-05 01:56:24 PM
Every time the GOP does something stupid, it adds another year to the wait before I think about voting for them.

So at this point, I may look at the GOP possibilities in the 8320 election.
 
2012-05-05 01:56:38 PM
These are the same people who say the United States is a Christian nation.

When the Samaritan came across an injured foreigner on the road, he said "Sorry, can't help ya"
 
2012-05-05 01:56:59 PM
Somebody we don't like got something? Shut down everything!
 
2012-05-05 01:57:11 PM
Doctor Funkenstein: A Dark Evil Omen: I'm actually getting kind of sick of this macro... That guy in that picture is probably an okay dude and doesn't deserve being associated with someone like SkinnyHead.

I love that guy (tard guy not Skinnyballs). He's just fascinating. Snappy dresser, tidy, pensive, apparently hates eyebrows. Dude has a story to tell and I want to hear it. He should be in those beer commercials with that suave motherfarker, who fences and has a tiger in his kitchen. I want to see one of those where the most interesting man in the world kills a pirate or wrestles a shark or something. Then he just looks up and there's tard guy, quietly nodding in approval, and then that suave cat gives him a fist bump and tells us to go get some Dos Equis. I would buy that beer.


YES. I want that ad. I would buy the shiat out of that beer.
 
2012-05-05 01:57:20 PM
SkinnyHead: hubiestubert: SkinnyHead: Weaver95: SkinnyHead: I'd say Senate democrats are the ones playing political games. They're the ones who inserted this new illegal alien provision into the VAWA in order to make the VAWA a political football.

let me ask you this question - what mistakes, if any, have the Republicans made over the past year? has the GOP ever, in your opinion, done ANYTHING wrong?

Is that your answer to the charge that this whole controversy has been manufactured by Senate democrats who added illegal alien provisions to the VAWA in order to draw fire.

Actually, I think that we are all interested if you just answered the question. Straight up. Consider it an opportunity to show the folks how free thinking and well considered you are.

But that would be off topic. I'm not the subject of this thread. The topic is how Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire, instead of crafting a bill that everyone can support.


You know it was the GOP that added these provisions in right
 
2012-05-05 01:57:28 PM
Don't worry. It's not theocracy, it's laser-like focus on job creation, just like the teabaggies said it would be.
 
2012-05-05 01:57:40 PM
SkinnyHead: hubiestubert: SkinnyHead: Weaver95: SkinnyHead: I'd say Senate democrats are the ones playing political games. They're the ones who inserted this new illegal alien provision into the VAWA in order to make the VAWA a political football.

let me ask you this question - what mistakes, if any, have the Republicans made over the past year? has the GOP ever, in your opinion, done ANYTHING wrong?

Is that your answer to the charge that this whole controversy has been manufactured by Senate democrats who added illegal alien provisions to the VAWA in order to draw fire.

Actually, I think that we are all interested if you just answered the question. Straight up. Consider it an opportunity to show the folks how free thinking and well considered you are.

But that would be off topic. I'm not the subject of this thread. The topic is how Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire, instead of crafting a bill that everyone can support.


The immigrant provisions were already in previous versions of the law. If it weren't, it wouldn't be possible for the Republicans to claim they've been exploited by immigrant women fraudulently claiming abuse.
 
2012-05-05 01:58:10 PM
Is there any data that supports the removal of these provisions? Can someone testify why it's bad to remove these protections? If not, add them back and pass this.

The GOP is seriously full of mouthbreathing idiots.
 
2012-05-05 01:59:45 PM
Weaver95: I'm just wondering if your entire philosophy is 'the GOP is always right no matter what'. I don't think i've ever seen you voice any disagreement with any Republican anywhere for any reason.

Just ignore the troll alt. Its not here for rational discussion, its here for the lulz. And you Weaver, of all people, should know better.
 
2012-05-05 01:59:47 PM
SkinnyHead: But that would be off topic. I'm not the subject of this thread. The topic is how Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire, instead of crafting a bill that everyone can support.

so let me ask this again - is there ANYTHING the GOP stands for that you disagree with? anything at all?
 
2012-05-05 01:59:52 PM
Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire,

Those provisions being "helping battered women"
 
2012-05-05 01:59:56 PM
I have to laugh at skinalt claiming to not be the subject of the thread when he always intentionally says stupid bullshiat to get responses which eventually turns him into the subject of the thread.
 
2012-05-05 02:01:07 PM
ShawnDoc: Weaver95: I'm just wondering if your entire philosophy is 'the GOP is always right no matter what'. I don't think i've ever seen you voice any disagreement with any Republican anywhere for any reason.

Just ignore the troll alt. Its not here for rational discussion, its here for the lulz. And you Weaver, of all people, should know better.


yes, but I Weaver95 am/are bored...now if the Sun Ops team would get off its ass and finish patching their gotdamn servers, I'd have something to do for the next two hours.
 
2012-05-05 02:01:15 PM
Republicans - farking everybody everywhere all the time.
 
2012-05-05 02:01:16 PM
SkinnyHead: hubiestubert: SkinnyHead: Weaver95: SkinnyHead: I'd say Senate democrats are the ones playing political games. They're the ones who inserted this new illegal alien provision into the VAWA in order to make the VAWA a political football.

let me ask you this question - what mistakes, if any, have the Republicans made over the past year? has the GOP ever, in your opinion, done ANYTHING wrong?

Is that your answer to the charge that this whole controversy has been manufactured by Senate democrats who added illegal alien provisions to the VAWA in order to draw fire.

Actually, I think that we are all interested if you just answered the question. Straight up. Consider it an opportunity to show the folks how free thinking and well considered you are.

But that would be off topic. I'm not the subject of this thread. The topic is how Senate democrats are playing politics with the VAWA by deliberately adding provisions they know will draw fire, instead of crafting a bill that everyone can support.


Since when has topic really mattered? It has some tangential importance. This is an opportunity for you to expand the discussion at hand, and perhaps gain some shred of credibility. Unless, of course, you enjoy being the butt of jokes about knee jerk responses with low thresholds of sense. Considering your history, and some of the odder threadjacks that you've participated in, this is an excellent opportunity to repair such credit, and perhaps even gain a modicum of respect for actual views...
 
2012-05-05 02:03:57 PM
Isn't this the one that added a provision the EFF is also against due to the vague and overreaching language about intentionally causing mental anguish to someone in online forums?

Link
 
2012-05-05 02:03:59 PM
The author of the rollback, Adams, was herself a victim of domestic violence, which House Republicans hope will inoculate it from attacks by groups who work with abused immigrant women.

"I got rid of my abusive husband, fark you!"
 
2012-05-05 02:04:40 PM
NeverDrunk23: I have to laugh at skinalt claiming to not be the subject of the thread when he always intentionally says stupid bullshiat to get responses which eventually turns him into the subject of the thread.

What an asshole.
 
2012-05-05 02:05:56 PM
Republicans must love Kanye West, 'cause their shiate is heartless.
 
2012-05-05 02:07:01 PM
propasaurus: Fark It: That process is managed by a specific branch of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services based in Vermont, where officials are highly trained in secrecy and in dealing with domestic violence situations. Extreme precautions are taken to assure that the victim's identity or action is not revealed to the abuser, for obvious reasons.

The Republican bill would eliminate that confidentiality and require women to go to the closest immigration office. It would allow the officer, not specifically trained in domestic violence response, to reach out to and inform the abusive partner that the alleged victim is applying for immigration status.

House Republicans say that some women have taken advantage of the confidentiality by fraudulently claiming abuse to acquire residency status. Victims who are not committing fraud, however, will now be exposed to retaliatory violence.

Wow. People are going to die because of this if the GOP gets their way.

Not people, illegals. Doesn't count.


Except it is primarily affecting legal migrants who are in the immigration process. Illegals are primarily affected by removing protections for witnesses.

Weaver95: But if the GOP tanks this bill, the backlash will not benefit the GOP. it will, in fact, hurt them considerably with a key voting block (women voters). weakening this legislation will only hurt Republicans...and women, if this modification goes through.

No, they are trying to get the Democrats to come out against it and try to turn it around against them, "see we want to protect women the evil demoncats are stopping us". The problem is the Democrats have every advantage on this issue.

SkinnyHead: Is that your answer to the charge that this whole controversy has been manufactured by Senate democrats who added illegal alien provisions to the VAWA in order to draw fire.

Then why is the GOP removing provisions that were in the current version of the bill? Instead of just reintroducing the 2005 legislation with updated dates.
 
2012-05-05 02:07:52 PM
Pharque-it: Yes, it is really unfair to the guy to be grouped with S-d.

He HAS a name, you know. It is Torg.
 
2012-05-05 02:08:20 PM
Democrat: 'we're proposing a resolution that says kicking puppies makes you a bad person and you should feel bad.'

GOP: hey, we agree! [adds amendment banning abortion].

Democrats: 'WTF dude? why did you do that!?'

GOP: 'do what? we said we supported your anti-puppy kicking resolution. lets vote!'

Democrats: 'we can't vote for that. you added in an amendment that you know we oppose.'

GOP: 'no idea what you're talking about dude. you must be high. you look high. i'll bet you're high, you hippie smoking pot head. now we voting on this thing or not?'

Democrats: 'what is this...I don't...NO! We can't vote for this and you know it!'

GOP: [stage whisper] See! I told you the Democrats kick puppies!'

Freepers: 'those bastards! vote them out!'
 
2012-05-05 02:10:10 PM
media.comicvine.com

"No reason. I just like doing things like that."
 
2012-05-05 02:10:23 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Doctor Funkenstein: A Dark Evil Omen: I'm actually getting kind of sick of this macro... That guy in that picture is probably an okay dude and doesn't deserve being associated with someone like SkinnyHead.

I love that guy (tard guy not Skinnyballs). He's just fascinating. Snappy dresser, tidy, pensive, apparently hates eyebrows. Dude has a story to tell and I want to hear it. He should be in those beer commercials with that suave motherfarker, who fences and has a tiger in his kitchen. I want to see one of those where the most interesting man in the world kills a pirate or wrestles a shark or something. Then he just looks up and there's tard guy, quietly nodding in approval, and then that suave cat gives him a fist bump and tells us to go get some Dos Equis. I would buy that beer.

YES. I want that ad. I would buy the shiat out of that beer.


I'm telling you, man. it needs to happen. Everyone can get behind that. It encourages consumer spending. The right can support it because it creates a job. The left can dig it because we're hooking up a retard. I may start a wrte-in campaign for a congressional seat and run on that sole issue.

"Funkenstein, what's your platform?"

"We're getting that retarded cat in a Dos Equis commercial. He's the Rosetta Stone to our economic woes. It's gonna fix everything. That goofy son of a biatch is going to save us all."
 
2012-05-05 02:10:42 PM
Jackson Herring: Pharque-it: Yes, it is really unfair to the guy to be grouped with S-d.

He HAS a name, you know. It is Torg.


www.darleyconsulting.com

the storm has a name....

/obscure
 
2012-05-05 02:11:21 PM
xanadian: It's almost like the Republicans DON'T want to be relevant anymore.

Personally, I'm glad they've decided to remove the facade and just go full-on xenophobic, misogynistic, racist, obstructionist, theocratic insane. This country has been teetering on the brink since I was a little boy, and it's time to decide whether we want to be a Christian version of Iran, or whether we want to kick these assholes to the curb and start playing catch-up with the rest of the developed world. Let's just get this decision out of the way; I need to know whether I'm going to raise kids here or move somewhere else. If the GOP keeps the House and takes control of the Senate, or takes the WH, I'll have a good idea that I need to go.
 
2012-05-05 02:11:58 PM
Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Pharque-it: Yes, it is really unfair to the guy to be grouped with S-d.

He HAS a name, you know. It is Torg.

[www.darleyconsulting.com image 490x131]

the storm has a name....

/obscure


Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"
 
2012-05-05 02:13:35 PM
Jackson Herring: Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Pharque-it: Yes, it is really unfair to the guy to be grouped with S-d.

He HAS a name, you know. It is Torg.

[www.darleyconsulting.com image 490x131]

the storm has a name....

/obscure

Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"


I thought it was a Manos: hands of Fate reference.

Stupid similar names getting me all confused.
 
2012-05-05 02:14:23 PM
Jackson Herring: Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"

you take all the fun out of life...

I have an extensive collection of Torg rpg material. I believe I actually have everything they've ever printed.

I loved the concept of that game. the rules...not so much. it'd be better as a d20 modern conversion.
 
2012-05-05 02:15:45 PM
bugontherug: The Republican War on Women continues.

The other day I turned on AM radio, as I do sometimes because I like to know what the worthless teabagger at work will say before he says it. The Mark Levin show was on, and he was ranting about how the left is waging a war on women and how they are blaming it on the GOP. He was also talking about how any woman who wants to be empowered and have an equal footing needs to take to the streets and support the GOP. It was sickening, physically sickening, to listen to so I turned it off.
 
2012-05-05 02:15:49 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: xanadian: It's almost like the Republicans DON'T want to be relevant anymore.

Personally, I'm glad they've decided to remove the facade and just go full-on xenophobic, misogynistic, racist, obstructionist, theocratic insane. This country has been teetering on the brink since I was a little boy, and it's time to decide whether we want to be a Christian version of Iran, or whether we want to kick these assholes to the curb and start playing catch-up with the rest of the developed world. Let's just get this decision out of the way; I need to know whether I'm going to raise kids here or move somewhere else. If the GOP keeps the House and takes control of the Senate, or takes the WH, I'll have a good idea that I need to go.


Pack your things. The Democrats barely lead the Republicans on the generic ballot. Not by the minimum 5% margin they need to have a shot at taking back the House, and keeping the Senate.

Link

In fact, I predict if the Democrats have only a 1-2% lead on election day, they'll pick up 5 or fewer House seats, and will lose the Senate.
 
2012-05-05 02:16:46 PM
Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"

you take all the fun out of life...

I have an extensive collection of Torg rpg material. I believe I actually have everything they've ever printed.

I loved the concept of that game. the rules...not so much. it'd be better as a d20 modern conversion.


To be fair, it was genuinely obscure for the second or two it took to google it. And it was interesting to read about.
 
2012-05-05 02:16:57 PM
Jackson Herring: Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"

Thanks-didn't know about that extension. Seems pretty useful.
 
2012-05-05 02:17:51 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: bugontherug: The Republican War on Women continues.

The other day I turned on AM radio, as I do sometimes because I like to know what the worthless teabagger at work will say before he says it. The Mark Levin show was on, and he was ranting about how the left is waging a war on women and how they are blaming it on the GOP. He was also talking about how any woman who wants to be empowered and have an equal footing needs to take to the streets and support the GOP. It was sickening, physically sickening, to listen to so I turned it off.


Limbaugh and Hannity (I believe) were repeating the same lies over the past month. the GOP view is that the GOP legislation against women is all the fault of the Democrats. Because socialisms or something. the reasoning is very Orwellian...but it plays well with the GOP base and that's really all that matters.
 
2012-05-05 02:18:13 PM
90% of you didn't read the article. The Republicans are supporting the traditional version of the VAWA (the one that has always passed in bipartisan fashion). What they're not supporting is the new version by Democrats, which includes an amnesty clause.

Sorry, there's no "war on women." There's only a political food fight, encouraged by both parties so that gullible partisans get riled up and forget about matters of actual importance.
 
2012-05-05 02:18:29 PM
NeverDrunk23: I have to laugh at skinalt claiming to not be the subject of the thread when he always intentionally says stupid bullshiat to get responses which eventually turns him into the subject of the thread.

Dude, you don't have that jackass on ignore? I mean, I typically favorite the trolls in "troll red #2," but that guy isn't even good for a WTF moment every now and then. He's adds no value to anything, at all. He's just a hateful attention whore.
 
2012-05-05 02:20:14 PM
Jackson Herring: To be fair, it was genuinely obscure for the second or two it took to google it. And it was interesting to read about.

If I had an extra $5k lying around, I'd buy up the rights to the game and convert it to open source d20 rules. then rewrite the core rulebook and pick up where the game left off...a world shattered into fracture reality zones and the nexus of all realities corrupted/distorted.
 
2012-05-05 02:22:03 PM
Jackson Herring: Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"

you take all the fun out of life...

I have an extensive collection of Torg rpg material. I believe I actually have everything they've ever printed.

I loved the concept of that game. the rules...not so much. it'd be better as a d20 modern conversion.

To be fair, it was genuinely obscure for the second or two it took to google it. And it was interesting to read about.


Back again after Googling.... Got hooked reading! Thanks
 
2012-05-05 02:22:32 PM
robmilmel: Jackson Herring: Nothing is obscure in the age of "right click, search google using image"

Thanks-didn't know about that extension. Seems pretty useful.


There's a "search wikipedia" one too that is also incredibly useful
 
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