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(Mother Nature Network)   Five ways the movie 'The Avengers' bends the rules of physics, according to one author who hasn't yet realized it's based on a series of comic books and not a documentary   (mnn.com) divider line 84
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2012-05-05 08:53:56 AM  
He forgot the one about the movie being so awesome that it melts peoples' faces off.

Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?
 
2012-05-05 08:54:36 AM  
Wireless communication sticks out to him? Not a flying aircraft carrier or anything?
 
2012-05-05 08:58:31 AM  

likefunbutnot: He forgot the one about the movie being so awesome that it melts peoples' faces off.

Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?


Ditto
 
2012-05-05 09:14:44 AM  

likefunbutnot: Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?


And where does it go when he's done with it?
 
2012-05-05 09:17:28 AM  
Seems more like 'a few ways we can kind of replicate what we see in the movie' instead of 'a few ways the movie bends physics'.
 
2012-05-05 09:20:57 AM  

Cybernetic: likefunbutnot: Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?

And where does it go when he's done with it?


I remember reading one explanation that the mass is pulled from and sent back to an alternate dimension. Can't remember if that's canon or not.
 
2012-05-05 09:21:30 AM  
Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.
 
2012-05-05 09:27:28 AM  

The sound of one hand clapping: Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces?


He invented whatever the Federation uses to keep occupants from flying against the walls when a starship accelerates to 2^x the speed of light....

obviously.
 
2012-05-05 09:28:50 AM  
Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.
 
2012-05-05 09:30:10 AM  
BTA - BTW
 
2012-05-05 09:33:49 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.


Same here, anyone know?
 
2012-05-05 09:35:43 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.


"Puny God"

And I had to go to IMDB to find that out because my theater was also too busy cheering. That scene, hands down, is one of the best moments in any comic book movie. The Hulk stole the show, and really, he's the Hulk. He can steal whatever he wants.

/Hulk. Smash
 
2012-05-05 09:38:21 AM  

The sound of one hand clapping: Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.


I bet he looks like this afterward.

www.haloandsprocket.com
 
2012-05-05 09:39:19 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.


Same here, so I asked a friend who saw another screening: "Puny god."
 
2012-05-05 09:42:26 AM  
My favorite part of the movie was when I realized the plot was exactly the same as transformers dark of the moon. Even down to both sides fighting over an energon cube.
I lied, my favorite part was SJH's ass lovingly wrapped in tight spandex.
 
2012-05-05 09:45:51 AM  

soporific: fatkidinabeenie: Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.

"Puny God"

And I had to go to IMDB to find that out because my theater was also too busy cheering. That scene, hands down, is one of the best moments in any comic book movie. The Hulk stole the show, and really, he's the Hulk. He can steal whatever he wants.

/Hulk. Smash


I liked the CGI version of the Hulk from the 2008 movie a little better. Seemed more proportioned or something.

But yea Hulk stole the show in The Avengers. The other one I liked was when Captain America is barking out orders to the assembled team and gets to hulk and just says "Hulk? *points upward* Smash". That grin that the Hulk gives before jumping away was so awesomely devious looking.

And the other great scene is when Hulk and Thor have just brought down that worm thing and they are standing next to each other looking in the same direction and Hulk "calmly" punches Thor in the side of the head and sends him flying.
 
2012-05-05 09:49:45 AM  

Wolf892: My favorite part of the movie was when I realized the plot was exactly the same as transformers dark of the moon. Even down to both sides fighting over an energon cube.
I lied, my favorite part was SJH's ass lovingly wrapped in tight spandex.


While that certainly was a fine image ... I think Cobie Smulders' ass actually one-upped her.

Watch the movie again and report back. I think you'll find Cobie's curves quite impressive.
 
2012-05-05 09:49:51 AM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: soporific: fatkidinabeenie: Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.

"Puny God"

And I had to go to IMDB to find that out because my theater was also too busy cheering. That scene, hands down, is one of the best moments in any comic book movie. The Hulk stole the show, and really, he's the Hulk. He can steal whatever he wants.

/Hulk. Smash

I liked the CGI version of the Hulk from the 2008 movie a little better. Seemed more proportioned or something.

But yea Hulk stole the show in The Avengers. The other one I liked was when Captain America is barking out orders to the assembled team and gets to hulk and just says "Hulk? *points upward* Smash". That grin that the Hulk gives before jumping away was so awesomely devious looking.

And the other great scene is when Hulk and Thor have just brought down that worm thing and they are standing next to each other looking in the same direction and Hulk "calmly" punches Thor in the side of the head and sends him flying.


I agree that "Hulk, Smash" works much better in the imperative. It's been too long since I was in a theater that cheered so much at a movie. It was awesome.
 
2012-05-05 09:51:48 AM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: soporific: fatkidinabeenie: Saw Avengers last night, 1st time I ever paid the extra for 3D, TOTALLY worth it.

BTA Hulk handelling Loki was the best scene in the movie. Wish I could have heard what he said but the entire theater was laughing.

"Puny God"

And I had to go to IMDB to find that out because my theater was also too busy cheering. That scene, hands down, is one of the best moments in any comic book movie. The Hulk stole the show, and really, he's the Hulk. He can steal whatever he wants.

/Hulk. Smash

I liked the CGI version of the Hulk from the 2008 movie a little better. Seemed more proportioned or something.

But yea Hulk stole the show in The Avengers. The other one I liked was when Captain America is barking out orders to the assembled team and gets to hulk and just says "Hulk? *points upward* Smash". That grin that the Hulk gives before jumping away was so awesomely devious looking.

And the other great scene is when Hulk and Thor have just brought down that worm thing and they are standing next to each other looking in the same direction and Hulk "calmly" punches Thor in the side of the head and sends him flying.


Also another scene where the entire theater busted up laughing.
 
2012-05-05 09:54:10 AM  
And WTF is up with the headline ... it is, as usual, 100% backwards.

The article was about technologies that we currently have that are along the same lines as the 'super' ones shown in the movie (except much weaker of course). One example being Stark's Iron Man suit being compared to the US military's exoskeleton which gives increased carrying capacity.

/Is there an unwritten rule that only idiotic headlines are green-lit??
 
2012-05-05 09:55:52 AM  
I have to see it again. Apparently, Iron Man crash-lands in front of the shawarma restaurant early in the big fight, which explains some of the dialogue later.

There's supposedly a lot of that sort of thing buried in the film.
 
2012-05-05 09:56:23 AM  
And coming next week, how to remain a virgin past the age of 30. Also in the the news, grown adults still watch cartoons. Here's Tom with the weather.
 
2012-05-05 09:59:28 AM  

cirby: I have to see it again. Apparently, Iron Man crash-lands in front of the shawarma restaurant early in the big fight, which explains some of the dialogue later.

There's supposedly a lot of that sort of thing buried in the film.


I am seeing it again next weekend ... I will check for that as well.

It would be very Whedon-like to do stuff like that. He wrote and directed so he could sneak as much of that in as he wanted.
 
2012-05-05 10:12:46 AM  

likefunbutnot: He forgot the one about the movie being so awesome that it melts peoples' faces off.

Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?


It's all water weight.
 
2012-05-05 10:12:57 AM  
I loved the movie, but there were 2 immersion breakers for me.

1) the aircraft carrier's rear strip launches aircraft directly over one of the lift turbines, either that or the incoming aircraft have a chance of overshooting and crashing into the turbine, but either way, not cool.

2) I share a first name with Hawkeye. It's not a common first name. This may be the first movie I've seen with a character that shares my name. It's weird to hear Scarlett Johansson saying my name while looking into the camera.

PS) this is the first time I watched a movie in 3d. Surprisingly it didn't trigger my motion sickness, but it sure is distracting. I didn't like it.
 
2012-05-05 10:19:58 AM  
So who actually stayed to catch the FINAL scene after ALL the credits?
 
2012-05-05 10:22:01 AM  

Jesus Burnt My Hotdog: And coming next week, how to remain a virgin past the age of 30. Also in the the news, grown adults still watch cartoons. Here's Tom with the weather.


If eternal virginity is the price I will pay for getting more awesome movies like Avengers, I'll pay it gladly
 
2012-05-05 10:23:44 AM  

fatkidinabeenie: So who actually stayed to catch the FINAL scene after ALL the credits?


That struck me as a pure Whedon moment, and I loved it
 
2012-05-05 10:32:27 AM  

cgraves67: I loved the movie, but there were 2 immersion breakers for me.

1) the aircraft carrier's rear strip launches aircraft directly over one of the lift turbines, either that or the incoming aircraft have a chance of overshooting and crashing into the turbine, but either way, not cool.



This was the first thing I noticed and it really irritated me.

Also: Is he going to have the gauntlet?
Also: the final, final, final scene was excellent.
 
2012-05-05 10:35:37 AM  

INeedAName: cgraves67: I loved the movie, but there were 2 immersion breakers for me.

1) the aircraft carrier's rear strip launches aircraft directly over one of the lift turbines, either that or the incoming aircraft have a chance of overshooting and crashing into the turbine, but either way, not cool.



This was the first thing I noticed and it really irritated me.

Also: Is he going to have the gauntlet?
Also: the final, final, final scene was excellent.


So everyone is in agreement that it was Thanos?
 
2012-05-05 10:38:56 AM  

Farking Canuck: INeedAName: cgraves67: I loved the movie, but there were 2 immersion breakers for me.

1) the aircraft carrier's rear strip launches aircraft directly over one of the lift turbines, either that or the incoming aircraft have a chance of overshooting and crashing into the turbine, but either way, not cool.



This was the first thing I noticed and it really irritated me.

Also: Is he going to have the gauntlet?
Also: the final, final, final scene was excellent.

So everyone is in agreement that it was Thanos?


It HAD to be Thanos
 
2012-05-05 10:46:23 AM  
I think what this artcile needs in an in-depth analysis of Hawkeye's archery skills.
 
2012-05-05 10:47:17 AM  
Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.
 
2012-05-05 10:47:34 AM  
*spoilers*

2 things that bothered me:

1. when Hawkeye was attacking the helicarrier and shot the arrow that curved around, yet was still able to puncture the helicarrier.

2. Stan Lee's cameo. that was stupid. of course it was expected, but his line about there not being superheroes in NYC? gimme a break, nobody was denying that there are superheroes, hell, the whole fight was caught on various cameras and apparently was broadcast worldwide, I don't think that that is a conspiracy.

I was impressed with how balanced the story was with all the heroes. You could walk away saying that it was a good Hulk movie, or a good Iron Man 3 movie...

and yes, I'm all aboard the SJH ass and the delicious curves of Cobie Smulders. but it was also nice to see Jenny Agutter on the screen (a member of the council). now that brought happy memories back to my penis.

//also, and while the Galaga scene elicited some laughs, it seemed unnecessary and they should have just left it at Stark's comment.
 
2012-05-05 10:52:07 AM  
6. When Hulk beats the stuffing out of Loki and plays his ribs like a xylophone, he hits the same rib twice and makes two different sounds. What does he have, some sort of magical xylophone rib?
 
2012-05-05 10:53:35 AM  
oh, and Iron Man calling Hawkeye 'Legolas' was chuckle-worthy.

yes, it will be nice to get it on dvd to catch all of the lines that were drowned out by the audience.
 
2012-05-05 10:54:28 AM  
HOLY! I thought she looked familiar, but it didn't even strike me till just now that was Robin Scherbatsky Sparkles
 
2012-05-05 11:08:57 AM  

calbert: //also, and while the Galaga scene elicited some laughs, it seemed unnecessary and they should have just left it at Stark's comment


also felt this way.
 
2012-05-05 11:09:29 AM  
Saw a screening in Mainland china, the crowd was really really into it.
 
2012-05-05 11:15:05 AM  

Fano: 6. When Hulk beats the stuffing out of Loki and plays his ribs like a xylophone, he hits the same rib twice and makes two different sounds. What does he have, some sort of magical xylophone rib?


Let me ask you a question. Why would a man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time watching comic book movies?
 
2012-05-05 11:21:49 AM  

Fano: 6. When Hulk beats the stuffing out of Loki and plays his ribs like a xylophone, he hits the same rib twice and makes two different sounds. What does he have, some sort of magical xylophone rib?


The winner is Fano.
 
2012-05-05 11:26:00 AM  

calbert: //also, and while the Galaga scene elicited some laughs, it seemed unnecessary and they should have just left it at Stark's comment.


Or made it much more subtle ... on a screen way in the background.
 
2012-05-05 11:26:22 AM  

Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.


Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.
 
2012-05-05 11:31:48 AM  

ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.


Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.
 
2012-05-05 11:38:55 AM  

calbert: *spoilers*

2 things that bothered me:

1. when Hawkeye was attacking the helicarrier and shot the arrow that curved around, yet was still able to puncture the helicarrier.

2. Stan Lee's cameo. that was stupid. of course it was expected, but his line about there not being superheroes in NYC? gimme a break, nobody was denying that there are superheroes, hell, the whole fight was caught on various cameras and apparently was broadcast worldwide, I don't think that that is a conspiracy.

I was impressed with how balanced the story was with all the heroes. You could walk away saying that it was a good Hulk movie, or a good Iron Man 3 movie...

and yes, I'm all aboard the SJH ass and the delicious curves of Cobie Smulders. but it was also nice to see Jenny Agutter on the screen (a member of the council). now that brought happy memories back to my penis.

//also, and while the Galaga scene elicited some laughs, it seemed unnecessary and they should have just left it at Stark's comment.


I think Stan Lee's commentary was more to parody the whole stereotype of two crotchety old men playing chess in Central Park.
 
2012-05-05 12:21:46 PM  

Farking Canuck: INeedAName: cgraves67: I loved the movie, but there were 2 immersion breakers for me.

1) the aircraft carrier's rear strip launches aircraft directly over one of the lift turbines, either that or the incoming aircraft have a chance of overshooting and crashing into the turbine, but either way, not cool.



This was the first thing I noticed and it really irritated me.

Also: Is he going to have the gauntlet?
Also: the final, final, final scene was excellent.

So everyone is in agreement that it was Thanos?


Pretty sure it's Darkseid.
 
2012-05-05 12:21:56 PM  

INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.


I wish they could, I love the Civil War storyline, but they would need both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four back to do it properly (especially Spider-Man), and Sony isn't about to let the rights to those go without a fight.
 
2012-05-05 12:42:48 PM  

KradDrol: Pretty sure it's Darkseid


Not sure if trolling

Darkseid is DC not Marvel
 
2012-05-05 12:46:35 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.

I wish they could, I love the Civil War storyline, but they would need both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four back to do it properly (especially Spider-Man), and Sony isn't about to let the rights to those go without a fight.


I'd be surprised if they pulled off Civil War in one of the movies. Although, maybe if we're lucky we can get Winter Soldier for the third Cap movie.
 
2012-05-05 01:11:54 PM  

fatkidinabeenie: Not sure if trolling


It's from a funny anecdote someone posted in one of the other avengers threads... cheers
 
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