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(Mother Nature Network)   Five ways the movie 'The Avengers' bends the rules of physics, according to one author who hasn't yet realized it's based on a series of comic books and not a documentary   (mnn.com) divider line 84
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2012-05-05 01:12:33 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.


Actually Thor doesnt have the power of flight exactly... he throws his hammer and hangs on.
 
2012-05-05 01:21:19 PM

Farking Canuck: cirby: I have to see it again. Apparently, Iron Man crash-lands in front of the shawarma restaurant early in the big fight, which explains some of the dialogue later.

There's supposedly a lot of that sort of thing buried in the film.

I am seeing it again next weekend ... I will check for that as well.

It would be very Whedon-like to do stuff like that. He wrote and directed so he could sneak as much of that in as he wanted.


The film is VERY Whedony.

INeedAName:

Also: Is he going to have the gauntlet?
Also: the final, final, final scene was excellent.


Yes, we saw the Gauntlet in the Asgardian armory in Thor.

cdnl.complex.com
 
2012-05-05 01:31:55 PM

ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.


Whoa.
 
2012-05-05 01:32:51 PM

Ghost Roach: Jesus Burnt My Hotdog: And coming next week, how to remain a virgin past the age of 30. Also in the the news, grown adults still watch cartoons. Here's Tom with the weather.

If eternal virginity is the price I will pay for getting more awesome movies like Avengers, I'll pay it gladly


Wow, no. No... NO! That is honestly the stupidest thing I've ever read on Fark.
 
2012-05-05 01:42:54 PM
Norse gods? DNRTFA
 
2012-05-05 01:50:51 PM

Cyno01: The sound of one hand clapping: Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.

Actually Thor doesnt have the power of flight exactly... he throws his hammer and hangs on.


So, this is really what should be the focus of a physics bending article.
 
2012-05-05 01:52:49 PM

MoronLessOff: Cyno01: The sound of one hand clapping: Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.

Actually Thor doesnt have the power of flight exactly... he throws his hammer and hangs on.

So, this is really what should be the focus of a physics bending article.


The article wasn't about bending physics (contrary to the 100% wrong Fark headline). It was about current technologies that are similar to the 'super' technologies in the movie.
 
2012-05-05 02:04:16 PM

fatkidinabeenie: calbert: //also, and while the Galaga scene elicited some laughs, it seemed unnecessary and they should have just left it at Stark's comment

also felt this way.


I disagree
 
2012-05-05 02:20:46 PM
What about Ant Man? Did he have a big scene?
 
2012-05-05 02:27:05 PM

kroonermanblack: Seems more like 'a few ways we can kind of replicate what we see in the movie' instead of 'a few ways the movie bends physics'.


Exactly, not sure what the complaints are about... unless people didn't read the article.
 
2012-05-05 02:31:36 PM

Cerebral Knievel: What about Ant Man? Did he have a big scene?


naw, he got the boot.

ant. boot.
 
2012-05-05 02:53:59 PM

Cerebral Knievel: What about Ant Man? Did he have a big scene?


This should answer your question...
 
2012-05-05 02:59:46 PM

Cerebral Knievel: What about Ant Man? Did he have a big scene?


That's actually an Easter Egg : he's in every shot.
 
2012-05-05 03:41:22 PM

Cerebral Knievel: What about Ant Man? Did he have a big scene?


They are apparently making an Ant Man origin movie. He was referred to in Thor but the scene was cut.
 
2012-05-05 04:02:53 PM

Ghost Roach: likefunbutnot: He forgot the one about the movie being so awesome that it melts peoples' faces off.

Also: Where does all the Hulk's extra mass come from?

Ditto


Double ditto.

Also, Iron Man's armour would generate a crap-load of heat. It needs the radiator from a Mack truck.

/Props to Haldeman's Forever War.
 
2012-05-05 04:24:06 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: Well, that was a stupid article. I think subby nailed it in the headline. I mean, if they are gonna debate how Thor controls lightning, why not complain about him being able to fly too?

Serious question though, since I know this thread is gonna quickly fill up with experts. Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces? Cause at times he accelerates and turns at crazy speeds and angles yet he always remains concious. Just wondering if it's ever explained in the comics or if it's kinda just ignored.


Inertial dampeners built into the suit.

Duh.
 
2012-05-05 04:42:44 PM
If you didn't follow the link in TFA, "The Super Materials of the Super Heroes" (PDF) is a much more interesting read than the article itself.
 
2012-05-05 04:57:35 PM

buckler: If you didn't follow the link in TFA, "The Super Materials of the Super Heroes" (PDF) is a much more interesting read than the article itself.


UNSTABLE MOLECULES
 
2012-05-05 04:58:22 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.

I wish they could, I love the Civil War storyline, but they would need both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four back to do it properly (especially Spider-Man), and Sony isn't about to let the rights to those go without a fight.


They can always substitute someone else for Spider-Man. I still say that if handled correctly, they could turn Robby Baldwin / Speedball into a decent Marvel Movie Universe stand-in for Spider-Man.

However, they can't really do Civil War without a lot more superheroes being introduced first, and that would include the New Warriors... That's a long way off.
 
2012-05-05 05:26:29 PM

ZeroCorpse: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.

I wish they could, I love the Civil War storyline, but they would need both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four back to do it properly (especially Spider-Man), and Sony isn't about to let the rights to those go without a fight.

They can always substitute someone else for Spider-Man. I still say that if handled correctly, they could turn Robby Baldwin / Speedball into a decent Marvel Movie Universe stand-in for Spider-Man.

However, they can't really do Civil War without a lot more superheroes being introduced first, and that would include the New Warriors... That's a long way off.


I think in general it would just be too much to handle. Too many characters, too much plot, too complex.
 
2012-05-05 08:45:30 PM
Serious question to all who saw the movie:

Is 3D worth it for this one, or is it terrible like what I hear about that Last Airbender thingie?

/Determines show time we buy tickets for tomorrow.
 
2012-05-05 08:47:46 PM

quoinguy: Serious question to all who saw the movie:

Is 3D worth it for this one, or is it terrible like what I hear about that Last Airbender thingie?

/Determines show time we buy tickets for tomorrow.


get 2d. The 3D isn't important (or that noticeable)
 
2012-05-05 09:15:24 PM

quoinguy: Serious question to all who saw the movie:

Is 3D worth it for this one, or is it terrible like what I hear about that Last Airbender thingie?

/Determines show time we buy tickets for tomorrow.


I saw it in 3D. It was done very well - there weren't any of those cliched 3D effects where something comes way out of the screen just for the 3D effect of it. But it added a bit of depth that made some of the scenes really neat to see...

When I see it again with the rest of the family it'll be in 3D.
 
2012-05-05 09:46:13 PM
IMO, 3D is only worth it if the movie was filmed in 3d (or rendered), and not converted in post, which most movies, including Avengers, are.
 
2012-05-06 01:02:08 AM

quoinguy: Serious question to all who saw the movie:

Is 3D worth it for this one, or is it terrible like what I hear about that Last Airbender thingie?

/Determines show time we buy tickets for tomorrow.


3D fell apart for me during the invasion scenes. For some reason, the pure effects moving fast eliminates my ability to focus.
 
2012-05-06 02:11:49 AM
On the subject of Thanos, who else thinks they'd damned well better get Ron Perlman in that role for the next Avengers movie?
 
2012-05-06 03:03:57 AM

wjllope: The sound of one hand clapping: Is it ever explained how Tony Stark is able to pull such wild manoeuvres in his suit without passing out from the G forces?

He invented whatever the Federation uses to keep occupants from flying against the walls when a starship accelerates to 2^x the speed of light....

obviously.


Trek is actually quite scientific in this particular matter, and follows the theories and conclusions of Einstein. Usage of warp drive entails usage of an alternate dimension. This particular point was used as plot technobabble for a number of episodes across the series, "generating a warp field", so on.

However, the science behind Trek anti-gravity and inertial compensation for the fantastic slower-than-light accelerations they use is not so neatly explained, and left more as a black-box magic-technology thing. "We're not going to explain it, but somehow this attack knocked out the anti-gravity system." (ST6: Undiscovered Country). And that's because modern science simply doesn't know how to address it.

When modern science begins addressing the question of gravity in similar thoroughness and quality as they have recently applied themselves to the question of light and particles (quantum theory), we'll be much, much closer to the elusive Theory of Everything.
 
2012-05-06 08:28:21 AM

quoinguy: Serious question to all who saw the movie:

Is 3D worth it for this one, or is it terrible like what I hear about that Last Airbender thingie?

/Determines show time we buy tickets for tomorrow.


Maybe a little late to reply to this, but Avengers was my first 3D movie since Jaws 3D, and I really enjoyed it. I didn't find the 3-D to be too much, or take away from the movie in anyway, in fact after seeing the trailer for "The Amazing Spider-Man" in 3D I am likely going to drop the extra money to see it in 3D when it comes out.
 
2012-05-06 12:13:31 PM
Thanks everyone. What I'm hearing is the 3D isn't as perfect as Tron, but still decent.

And definitely not a disaster like some movies. We've been to a few without headaches, so I'm not worried about that.
 
2012-05-06 02:10:24 PM

quoinguy: Thanks everyone. What I'm hearing is the 3D isn't as perfect as Tron, but still decent.

And definitely not a disaster like some movies. We've been to a few without headaches, so I'm not worried about that.


The 3D is not painful but it does blur in the action scenes and this is an action movie ...
 
2012-05-06 02:50:20 PM

quoinguy: Thanks everyone. What I'm hearing is the 3D isn't as perfect as Tron, but still decent.

And definitely not a disaster like some movies. We've been to a few without headaches, so I'm not worried about that.


Well yeah, like i said earlier, filmed in 3d vs converted in post. Avatar, Tron, a handful of others were actually filmed in 3d with stereoscopic cameras.
 
2012-05-07 01:05:57 PM

INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.


I freely admit my fanboy-ness needs work, but where did that reference come in? I didn't catch it...
 
2012-05-07 06:20:39 PM

NateAsbestos: INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.

I freely admit my fanboy-ness needs work, but where did that reference come in? I didn't catch it...


When Fury is going on about why they were developing weapons from the cosmic cube, not just to fight aliens, but to fight ridiculously OP people that had been popping up on earth, and he was definitely talking about people besides those in the room. And the bits with the mysterious council of government officials and the newscast at the end with the senator calling for the avengers to be held responsible for the whole thing...
 
2012-05-07 08:42:49 PM

Cyno01: NateAsbestos: INeedAName: ZeroCorpse: Orlandu881: Definitely Thanos. His smirk for the comment about courting Death is such a perfect homage, in addition to a dead giveaway.
Unless they power up Thor and Hulk to some of their comic incarnation's more ridiculous levels, I can't see him having the gauntlet. Maybe in Avengers 2, one of the gems will be on Earth, and that's what they'll fight over.

Someone else pointed out (and I agree) that the gemstone in Loki's staff was the Mind Gem.

Very interesting.

I also felt like they hinted a bit at mutant and super hero registration/civil war. However, I'm not sure they could ever pull that off.

I freely admit my fanboy-ness needs work, but where did that reference come in? I didn't catch it...

When Fury is going on about why they were developing weapons from the cosmic cube, not just to fight aliens, but to fight ridiculously OP people that had been popping up on earth, and he was definitely talking about people besides those in the room. And the bits with the mysterious council of government officials and the newscast at the end with the senator calling for the avengers to be held responsible for the whole thing...


Interesting. I'm seeing it again this weekend so I'll pay more attention to those parts. Thanks!
 
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