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(Your Health)   Reasons to be Amish: No asthma and no allergies. Reasons not to be Amish: Electricity and alcohol   (yourhealth.com.sg) divider line 79
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2012-05-05 02:35:22 AM  
My mom and her siblings are of similar genetic stock as the Amish (my ancestors were Mennonites who got chased out of Switzerland rather than Amish who got chased out of Switzerland), and they grew up on a farm in rural Pennsylvania that, apart from having electricity, wouldn't have been all that different than an Amish farm. They almost all have allergies, and several have asthma. And any non-environmental, genetic protection clearly didn't make it to my generation because we're a mess.
 
2012-05-05 02:40:59 AM  
The Amish have a phobia of technology right up until they get snowed in and the dairy trucks are late. Then all of a sudden you hear a whirrr from every farmstead from Gap to Lancaster, from Bird In Hand to Paradise. And over the sound of all these sex toys is the thrum of their diesel generators, pasteurizing the milk and then keeping it cold afterward.

It's just business.
 
2012-05-05 04:51:53 AM  

rynthetyn: My mom and her siblings are of similar genetic stock as the Amish (my ancestors were Mennonites who got chased out of Switzerland rather than Amish who got chased out of Switzerland), and they grew up on a farm in rural Pennsylvania that, apart from having electricity, wouldn't have been all that different than an Amish farm. They almost all have allergies, and several have asthma. And any non-environmental, genetic protection clearly didn't make it to my generation because we're a mess.


Wouldn't it suck to find out that electrickery is what causes all our allergy problems.
 
2012-05-05 05:30:36 AM  
It's simple really; they aren't exposed to a lot of toxins or food preservatives, etc.
 
2012-05-05 05:32:30 AM  
It's possible that the amish just bred out those genetic characteristics.

There are primitive cultures wandering forests in south america that get almost all of their calories from eating honey. They have no diabetes at all.

Why? Anyone in their culture who could get diabetes died several generations ago, that's why.
 
2012-05-05 07:02:38 AM  
Another reason to be Amish? The beards and hats.

www.contactmusic.com
 
2012-05-05 07:09:33 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Another reason to be Amish? The beards and hats.

[www.contactmusic.com image 480x348]


Hats are frequently overlooked as a fashionable yet functional accessory.
 
2012-05-05 07:33:57 AM  
I never understood the Amish. How did they pick the 1800s as the cut off point for lifestyle and farming techniques? I don't think that's in the Bible.
 
2012-05-05 07:57:11 AM  
Oooooooh Jebediah, give it to me you Abe Lincoln lookin motherf*cker
 
2012-05-05 08:07:09 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Oooooooh Jebediah, give it to me you Abe Lincoln lookin motherf*cker


lol
Too early for Amish bodice ripping.
 
2012-05-05 08:37:45 AM  

AbbeySomeone: It's simple really; they aren't exposed to a lot of toxins or food preservatives, etc.


The 'farm effect' seems largely to do with precisely the opposite- early childhood exposure to pathogens. Interestingly, I was reading a Straight Dope classic about this very subject just yesterday. It talks at length about the farm effect.
 
2012-05-05 08:49:33 AM  
amazing what getting your ass outside will do for you
 
2012-05-05 08:49:45 AM  

unyon: AbbeySomeone: It's simple really; they aren't exposed to a lot of toxins or food preservatives, etc.

The 'farm effect' seems largely to do with precisely the opposite- early childhood exposure to pathogens. Interestingly, I was reading a Straight Dope classic about this very subject just yesterday. It talks at length about the farm effect.


The Farm effect is exposure to naturally ocurring 'germs' or pathogens. This is not unhealthy.
The Amish don't spray their houses with febreeze, slather the kids with sanitizer and their farming is primarily organic. They don't eat fast food, etc. Those are the things that trigger allergies and asthma.
 
2012-05-05 08:56:12 AM  

Mugato: I never understood the Amish. How did they pick the 1800s as the cut off point for lifestyle and farming techniques? I don't think that's in the Bible.


Pre-Industrial revolution?
 
2012-05-05 08:57:39 AM  
So what's the medicine situation with the Amish? Do they break down and accept western medicine or if you catch something beyond the ability of 19th century medicine you're farked? That could explain some of it.
 
2012-05-05 08:58:27 AM  
I thought I read here on Fark that the Amish were wicked alcoholics.

Not that I'd wish that on anyone.
 
2012-05-05 09:01:32 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I thought I read here on Fark that the Amish were wicked alcoholics.

Not that I'd wish that on anyone.


Well they do produce a lot of grain. Enough to drown someone in according to the documentary Witness.
 
2012-05-05 09:02:35 AM  
Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophelia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).
 
2012-05-05 09:04:14 AM  

AbbeySomeone: FirstNationalBastard: Another reason to be Amish? The beards and hats.

[www.contactmusic.com image 480x348]

Hats are frequently overlooked as a fashionable yet functional accessory.


Need moar hats.

It is Hatterday, after all.
 
2012-05-05 09:04:37 AM  

Bedstead Polisher: Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophelia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).


Plus, a vast majority of them are cannibals. Trust me on this.
 
2012-05-05 09:06:13 AM  
Researchers could save a shiatload of money if they just paid $5 for total Fark and got the geniuses on Fark to give them the answers they sought.
 
2012-05-05 09:10:41 AM  

Bedstead Polisher: Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophelia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).


NTTAWWT.
 
2012-05-05 09:10:49 AM  

Asa Phelps: It's possible that the amish just bred out those genetic characteristics..


The Amish also have a limited gene pool and they have a higher rate of other physical afflictions and deformities. Most Amish can trace their roots back to the original German-Swiss settlers that fled to the United States. So a small population of several hundred has intermarried and reproduced to create a population of 250,000 as of the 2010 census. The Amish are big on bring new people into the faith.

Great example of the Founder effect.
 
2012-05-05 09:13:09 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

/rumspringa
 
2012-05-05 09:14:01 AM  
Oh and I should mention, having grown up near Amish those kids go nuts during Rumspringa and throw killer parties.
 
2012-05-05 09:14:06 AM  

AbbeySomeone: The Farm effect is exposure to naturally ocurring 'germs' or pathogens. This is not unhealthy.
The Amish don't spray their houses with febreeze, slather the kids with sanitizer and their farming is primarily organic. They don't eat fast food, etc. Those are the things that trigger allergies and asthma.


Oh, I don't disagree that both have an impact. The Amish presumably aren't exposed to a whole range of offgassing petrochemicals at the same level as other North Americans. My sister has acute chemical sensitivity, so I've seen the extreme end of what you're talking about.
 
2012-05-05 09:14:19 AM  
Other reasons not to be Amish: Religious extremism, beatings, etc
 
2012-05-05 09:14:39 AM  
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2012-05-05 09:15:21 AM  

ToddMU03: The Amish are big on bring new people into the faith.


They are or aren't? I'd hate to be the one to make that brochure is all I'm saying.
 
2012-05-05 09:17:14 AM  

unyon: AbbeySomeone: The Farm effect is exposure to naturally ocurring 'germs' or pathogens. This is not unhealthy.
The Amish don't spray their houses with febreeze, slather the kids with sanitizer and their farming is primarily organic. They don't eat fast food, etc. Those are the things that trigger allergies and asthma.

Oh, I don't disagree that both have an impact. The Amish presumably aren't exposed to a whole range of offgassing petrochemicals at the same level as other North Americans. My sister has acute chemical sensitivity, so I've seen the extreme end of what you're talking about.


Chemical sensitivity is something no one should be burdened with.
, except the people that find it amusing to 'test' the affected person. They should know what it's like.
 
2012-05-05 09:18:07 AM  

Mugato: ToddMU03: The Amish are big on bring new people into the faith.

They are or aren't? I'd hate to be the one to make that brochure is all I'm saying.


Aren't.
 
2012-05-05 09:18:11 AM  
Old Order Amish brew (and drink) fantastic beer.

New Order Amish won't touch the stuff (and every time they see you falling they get down on their knees and pray).
 
2012-05-05 09:18:55 AM  

exploding pork: Bedstead Polisher: Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophilia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).

Plus, a vast majority of them are cannibals. Trust me on this.


And they also breathe fire.
 
2012-05-05 09:19:30 AM  
Worms. It's worms. You get some worms by walking around with bare feet in cow flop, drinking raw milk or whatnot, and you will have no allergies.

/It's SCIENCE!
 
2012-05-05 09:20:53 AM  
CSB time:

Wife is from Eastern Europe and we went back to Indiana to visit m family. She had never seen the Amish so we drove out past the settlement. Only person outside was some 5 year old kid peeing off the front porch.
 
2012-05-05 09:21:24 AM  

Diana Fyer: Bedstead Polisher: Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophelia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).

NTTAWWT.


Yes, they have an insatiable bloodlust.

/spellcheck told me it was wrong, I just couldn't be bothered.
//going to stop posting now.
 
2012-05-05 09:28:17 AM  

Mugato: So what's the medicine situation with the Amish? Do they break down and accept western medicine or if you catch something beyond the ability of 19th century medicine you're farked? That could explain some of it.


They do indeed. A lot of their problems are from inbreeding that rivals the tribal loyalty in reproduction like the Jews have. Both groups have high rates of genetic illness especially rare ones like Gaucher's disease in Ashkenasi jews, and the Amish have inbred to the point the illnesses don't have names yet Link.
 
2012-05-05 09:32:08 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Amish have a phobia of technology right up until they get snowed in and the dairy trucks are late. Then all of a sudden you hear a whirrr from every farmstead from Gap to Lancaster, from Bird In Hand to Paradise. And over the sound of all these sex toys is the thrum of their diesel generators, pasteurizing the milk and then keeping it cold afterward.

It's just business.


If it's needed, it isn't luxury and they have no prohibitions against using it.
 
2012-05-05 09:32:47 AM  

Bomb Mecca: Mugato: So what's the medicine situation with the Amish? Do they break down and accept western medicine or if you catch something beyond the ability of 19th century medicine you're farked? That could explain some of it.

They do indeed. A lot of their problems are from inbreeding that rivals the tribal loyalty in reproduction like the Jews have. Both groups have high rates of genetic illness especially rare ones like Gaucher's disease in Ashkenasi jews, and the Amish have inbred to the point the illnesses don't have names yet Link.


"You idiots."

GodFacepalm.jpg
 
2012-05-05 09:36:11 AM  

desertfool: [www.demotivationalposters.org image 640x517]


Beard's wrong. He isn't in the military is he? Lose the mustache.
 
2012-05-05 09:38:17 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Another reason to be Amish? The beards and hats.

[www.contactmusic.com image 480x348]


Came for the Amish Paradise reference
 
2012-05-05 09:42:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Amish have a phobia of technology right up until they get snowed in and the dairy trucks are late. Then all of a sudden you hear a whirrr from every farmstead from Gap to Lancaster, from Bird In Hand to Paradise. And over the sound of all these sex toys is the thrum of their diesel generators, pasteurizing the milk and then keeping it cold afterward.

It's just business.


Don't forget Intercourse!

/headed there today for Immergut pretzels!
 
2012-05-05 09:43:51 AM  
morningpaper.typepad.com

As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain
I take a look at my wife and realize she's very plain
But that's just perfect for an Amish like me
You know I shun fancy things like electricity

At 4:30 in the mornin' I'm milking cows
Jedediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows, fool
And I've been milking and plowing so long that
Even Ezekial thinks that my mind is gone

I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline
Got a bible in my hand and a beard on my chin
But if I finish all of my chores, and you finish thine
Then tonight we're going to party like it's 1699

We've been spending most our lives living in an Amish paradise
I churn butter once or twice, living in an Amish paradise
It's hard work and sacrifice, living in an Amish paradise
We sell quilts at discount price, living in an Amish paradise

A local boy kicked me in the butt last week
I just smiled at him, and I turned the other cheek
I really don't care, in fact I wish him well
'Cause I'll be laughin' my head off when he's burnin' in hell

But I ain't never punched a tourist even if he deserved it
An Amish with a 'tude, you know that's unheard of
I never wear buttons, but I got a cool hat
And my homies agree I really look good in black, fool

If you come to visit, you'll be bored to tears
We haven't even payed the phone bill in 300 years
But we ain't really quaint, so please don't point and stare
We're just technologically impaired

There's no phone, no lights, no motorcars, not a single luxury
Like Robonson Crusoe, it's as primitive as can be

We've been spending most our lives living in an Amish paradise
We're just plain and simple guys, living in an Amish paradise
There's no time for sin and vice, living in an Amish paradise
We don't fight, we all play nice, living in an Amish paradise

Hitchin' up the buggy, churnin' lots of butter
Raised a barn on Monday, soon I'll raise a nutter
Think you're really righteous? Think you're pure in heart?
Well, I know, I'm a million times as humble as thou art

I'm the pioust guy the little Amletts want to be like
On my knees day and night scoring points for the afterlife
So don't be vain, and don't be whiney
Or else my brother might have to get medieval on your hiney

We've been spending most our lives living in an Amish paradise
We're all crazy Mennonites, living in an Amish paradise
There's no cops or traffic lights, living in an Amish paradise
But you'd probably think it bites, living in an Amish paradise
Yeah
 
2012-05-05 09:43:53 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Chemical sensitivity is something no one should be burdened with.
, except the people that find it amusing to 'test' the affected person. They should know what it's like.


Both she and I worked in swimming pools for many years. That seems to have been the genesis for her. Not surprising really, there's a pretty broad swath of cleaners, disinfectant, and pool-chemistry-adjusting chemical exposure on a continuous basis. I'm surprised that I don't share the same problems.

/or haven't been rendered stupid by playing with mercury as a kid
 
2012-05-05 09:48:44 AM  

Mugato: I never understood the Amish. How did they pick the 1800s as the cut off point for lifestyle and farming techniques? I don't think that's in the Bible.


It doesn't have to do with the Bible, it has to do with luxury, dependence, and similar concepts.

In the more mainstream groups, the deciding factor is that if something is a demonstration of wealth, or luxury, it is shunned. If something can be done without, then that's how you do it. If you can't do without something, then it may be permitted. The decision of incorporation of a technology is usually left up to the elders.

Having grown up in 'Amish Country' it wasn't uncommon to see a guy pull up to a gas station in a buggy and fill up several containers full of gasoline or diesel to bring back to power the equipment back on the farm.

The Amish don't necessarily sun electricity either, what they really shun is the grid/dependence on others. There are such things as propane powered refrigerators for example. The Amish are one of or the only group that is actually exempted from Social Security because insurance is literally against their belief system (as a form of gambling/dependence)

You will also see them readily employ modern equipment in their businesses if such equipment is necessary. Businesses require phones, and thus there will be phones in the office of an Amish business. Sometimes a group of Amish will share a 'community' phone.

It's not for me, but it's not what people see on TV either.
 
2012-05-05 09:53:42 AM  

Asa Phelps: It's possible that the amish just bred out those genetic characteristics.

There are primitive cultures wandering forests in south america that get almost all of their calories from eating honey. They have no diabetes at all.

Why? Anyone in their culture who could get diabetes died several generations ago, that's why.


That is what I was thinking. You cough too much, go over there and die for you must be evil. It wouldn't surprise me if they just chased all the "sickly" people away to purify the congregation.
 
2012-05-05 09:56:54 AM  
The Amish drink beer. I lived in Lancaster PA while in college and I learned that the majority of DUI stops were drunk amish in buggies. They love beer.

They also smoke crack at barn dances - totally true (for the young ones anyhow).
 
2012-05-05 09:57:32 AM  

Bedstead Polisher: Diana Fyer: Bedstead Polisher: Due to the limited gene pool there's also higher instances of dwarfism and hemophelia in the Amish. (There's probably other things, just don't remember).

NTTAWWT.

Yes, they have an insatiable bloodlust.

/spellcheck told me it was wrong, I just couldn't be bothered.
//going to stop posting now.


I didn't realize it was misspelled. :)
 
2012-05-05 09:57:58 AM  

lack of warmth: Asa Phelps: It's possible that the amish just bred out those genetic characteristics.

There are primitive cultures wandering forests in south america that get almost all of their calories from eating honey. They have no diabetes at all.

Why? Anyone in their culture who could get diabetes died several generations ago, that's why.

That is what I was thinking. You cough too much, go over there and die for you must be evil. It wouldn't surprise me if they just chased all the "sickly" people away to purify the congregation.


Just because they live simply doesn't mean they're superstitious farkwits.

Amish take really good care of their downs syndrome and trisomy 18 kids, and anyone else in their community that is unable to take care of themselves.
 
2012-05-05 10:01:48 AM  
So let's see how this breaks down. Without exposure to mass amounts of petrochemicals in all areas of life, likely shunning vaccines and other dogmas of western medicine, and being physically active and continuously outdoors, they are basically healthier than average Americans who are constantly exposed to plastics and food preservatives, do whatever the guy in the white lab coat tells them to without question, and who think that lifting the remote counts as a form of exercise. Except they are also suffering from inbreeding which is causing serious genetic problems that are starting to compound exponentially.

Solution: start recruiting new people. I'm sure there are all kinds of evangelicals that would at least try it out if seriously offered it, and we aren't short of them in the States.
 
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