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(Gizmodo)   Obama plans to veto CISPA. That's good. He's supporting an alternative with similar language proposed by Joe Liebermann. That's bad. Everyone gets a Frogurt with their lost online privacy. That's good   (gizmodo.com) divider line 47
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2012-05-04 11:08:36 PM
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The bill contains Potassium Benzoate.
 
2012-05-04 11:12:51 PM

FirstNationalBastard: [i6.photobucket.com image 400x291]

The bill contains Potassium Benzoate.

:quizzical look:

 
2012-05-04 11:15:55 PM
I AM AMBIVALENT!
 
2012-05-04 11:22:10 PM

CavalierEternal: FirstNationalBastard: [i6.photobucket.com image 400x291]

The bill contains Potassium Benzoate.

:quizzical look:


THAT'S BAD!
 
2012-05-04 11:25:04 PM

FirstNationalBastard: CavalierEternal: FirstNationalBastard: [i6.photobucket.com image 400x291]

The bill contains Potassium Benzoate.

:quizzical look:

THAT'S BAD!


...Can I go now?
 
2012-05-04 11:31:32 PM
I guess we were going to get farked no matter what. They're just competing for who gets the honor of doing it.
 
2012-05-04 11:47:49 PM
This isn't good for my Pony memes. o_o'
 
2012-05-04 11:50:48 PM
Well, it's over then

/Obama vetoes CISPA, then endorses an alternative
//you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses
 
2012-05-05 12:01:21 AM
Corporate America owns us all. They will get what they want. Nice job with the black pages and stuff, though. At least you guys tried.
 
2012-05-05 12:04:34 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: //you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses


Ha, this is a good point.
 
2012-05-05 12:31:37 AM

cameroncrazy1984: MaudlinMutantMollusk: //you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses

Ha, this is a good point.


He propose the exact same legislation except for a single comma changed to a semi-colon, and suddenly the Republicans would be up in arms about how the bill is a Muslim attempt to make American communist.
 
2012-05-05 12:42:16 AM

Sid_6.7: cameroncrazy1984: MaudlinMutantMollusk: //you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses

Ha, this is a good point.

He propose the exact same legislation except for a single comma changed to a semi-colon, and suddenly the Republicans would be up in arms about how the bill is a Muslim attempt to make American communist.


commanist? semi-colonial?

/it will only punctuate their argument
 
2012-05-05 12:43:07 AM

Sid_6.7: cameroncrazy1984: MaudlinMutantMollusk: //you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses

Ha, this is a good point.

He propose the exact same legislation except for a single comma changed to a semi-colon, and suddenly the Republicans would be up in arms about how the bill is a Muslim attempt to make American communist.


Isn't that exactly what happened in Russia? Lenin just inserted a semi-colon somewhere and boom The Soviet Union was born!
 
2012-05-05 01:18:13 AM
This is gonna be a fun thread to watch.
 
2012-05-05 02:38:38 AM
Jews ruin everything.
 
2012-05-05 02:46:11 AM
We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.
 
2012-05-05 02:58:33 AM

vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.


This is true.

And the reverse is true; there are people who are sooooo good at keeping their privacy it is impossible to find them online. I've been looking for a former communications officer who was a Captain in the US Army. This guy was the definition of nerd. He loved WoW and other MMOPG. He's so good I cannot find a single thing of him on the Internet at all. Its like he doesnt exist.
 
2012-05-05 03:27:43 AM
I feel sorry for the NSA agents who have to read all the You Tube comments.
 
2012-05-05 03:43:33 AM
Done in five.
 
2012-05-05 03:48:52 AM

vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.


They won't be if the FBI (Pops) get their way.
 
2012-05-05 04:00:11 AM
I don't even know what CISPA is, does it mean that Joe Lieberman is following my Pinterest pins?
 
2012-05-05 04:03:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protectio n _Act

Hey Vern, look it up, man.
 
2012-05-05 04:04:38 AM

cman: vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.

This is true.

And the reverse is true; there are people who are sooooo good at keeping their privacy it is impossible to find them online. I've been looking for a former communications officer who was a Captain in the US Army. This guy was the definition of nerd. He loved WoW and other MMOPG. He's so good I cannot find a single thing of him on the Internet at all. Its like he doesnt exist.


Call the bastard out in /2.
 
2012-05-05 04:09:48 AM
It was a good run Internet. Goodbye and thanks for all the porn.
 
2012-05-05 04:18:18 AM
I think the FBI is going to be looking a LOT of pictures of cats with funny captions.
 
2012-05-05 04:56:06 AM

vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.


Every single day there is at least one story of some crime involving a FB post, Why do people feel the need to post every detail of their lives and be the first to like or join in? How did Zuckerburg get so wealthy offering a free site?
Best scam ever.
 
2012-05-05 05:08:53 AM

cman: vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.

This is true.

And the reverse is true; there are people who are sooooo good at keeping their privacy it is impossible to find them online. I've been looking for a former communications officer who was a Captain in the US Army. This guy was the definition of nerd. He loved WoW and other MMOPG. He's so good I cannot find a single thing of him on the Internet at all. Its like he doesnt exist.


Well... when I opened my Facebook account the only people who could see any of my info were other people from my university that I had explicitly allowed.

*Now* I know better, but cat's out of the bag. And I remember holding off for a week before breaking down and opening an account with my .edu address... first time I had ever used my real name signing up for anything online. Should've listened to stupid nagging voice of doubt, oh well.
 
2012-05-05 06:18:57 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, it's over then

/Obama vetoes CISPA, then endorses an alternative
//you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses


Well, they might.

Not if it's a bill endorsed by Droopy Dog and Susan Collins, though. Both parties loathe these two.

What Obama may look like right about now:

img841.imageshack.us
 
2012-05-05 06:27:37 AM
You can only enforce online privacy if you allow the same tools that would block copyright infringement. That's because any data can be copied and transmitted freely - whether it is a TV show or medical records. Arguments against giving authorities the tools to take down sites that redistribute copyrighted materials without authorization also work against giving authorities the tools to take down sites that redistribute private data. Unless there is an enforcement mechanism to restrict the publication of private data, data privacy is a bit of a joke (and saying "but private data can be encrypted" is the same as claiming that DRM can protect data from being copied - DRM uses encryption as well, DRM is broken not by breaking the encryption, but by getting access to the encryption keys)
 
2012-05-05 07:11:18 AM

AbbeySomeone: vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.

Every single day there is at least one story of some crime involving a FB post, Why do people feel the need to post every detail of their lives and be the first to like or join in? How did Zuckerburg get so wealthy offering a free site?
Best scam ever.


The same way Google did. Ads.
 
2012-05-05 08:34:15 AM
I feel sad for you all.

This is why I spoof through 3 ip's behind 8 proxies on a commodore 128.
 
2012-05-05 08:42:44 AM

narkor: You can only enforce online privacy if


Enforcing or attacking privacy is not the focus. CISPA is about companies sharing information with each other and government agencies as part of "cybersecurity" operations. They already can of course, but if they happen to reveal personal information about their customers in the process, they could be liable for damages. CISPA would immunize them from that liability - so they would stop caring & stop trying to protect our privacy. Data going into Stellar Wind could be all of everyone's unfiltered emails, chat logs, browsing history, etc.
 
2012-05-05 09:30:57 AM

cman: vernonFL: We need to accept the fact that we don't have online privacy. Someone, somewhere has a record of every IP address that everyone has ever visited.

I don't understand how anyone would think that things like Facebook or Twitter would be private.

This is true.

And the reverse is true; there are people who are sooooo good at keeping their privacy it is impossible to find them online. I've been looking for a former communications officer who was a Captain in the US Army. This guy was the definition of nerd. He loved WoW and other MMOPG. He's so good I cannot find a single thing of him on the Internet at all. Its like he doesnt exist.


I'm all OVER the internet, but my real life name is a ghost. Googling my fark handle (which is my universal handle) used to turn up some really wierd shiat I'd done, since I've used it for a decade or more. But I just did it and it looks like every entry has been farmed by some type of BBS reader/spam machine/bot thing, and only my posts on gamefaqs come up now. Which I'm mostly ok with.

Or, in short, you probably just need his 'net handle.
 
2012-05-05 09:42:13 AM
This is not so much a battle of privacy or consumer vs. the corporations. This is a fundamental shift if the way the world works. Throughout history, products, services, and information have been supplied through word of mouth, from businesses, the ruling class, the educated etc... Businesses have said there is this need and they fill it and make their money. We want to know what's going on in the government we hear from a spokesperson or a news anchor which is backed by a company that kowtows to such a such a party line. Sure, there were underground sources of info, but those were scarce and disseminated slowly and to a rather small number of people.

Then comes along computers, the internet, and as I see it now, 3D printers. It takes the power from these companies and from governments to control the flow of life. We are gradually moving towards more and more independence, which is something that has never happened in history on the scale that we will see in the near future. Sure, you can argue that we are more dependent for certain things, but even that I see changing soon enough. It's a shifting of the power of production and information control and bills like CISPA will only help push it along more quickly.
 
2012-05-05 10:01:08 AM
I prefer miniature American flags, but thanks for the offer.
 
2012-05-05 10:13:43 AM

Sid_6.7: cameroncrazy1984: MaudlinMutantMollusk: //you know damned well Congress will never pass anything Obama endorses

Ha, this is a good point.

He propose the exact same legislation except for a single comma changed to a semi-colon, and suddenly the Republicans would be up in arms about how the bill is a Muslim attempt to make American communist.


And, in this case, the fact the two sides behave like children is a good thing.
 
2012-05-05 11:10:31 AM
This thread should have been about the best deals on overseas VPNs. Cause its going to happen sooner or later.
 
2012-05-05 01:23:11 PM
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF MY THE CHILDREN??
 
2012-05-05 01:30:21 PM
Can we throw this guy out of office? Please?

Actually, not just Obama, but Congress as well.
 
2012-05-05 01:54:39 PM

Marine1: Can we throw this guy out of office? Please?

Actually, not just Obama, but Congress as well.


If you could only choose to remove five of them, which democrats would you want to see removed?
 
2012-05-05 04:44:47 PM
Waiting for the Obamaniacs to defend this...
 
2012-05-05 05:47:29 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Jews ruin everything.


What about bagels?
 
2012-05-05 06:45:09 PM

NewportBarGuy: Corporate America owns us all. They will get what they want. Nice job with the black pages and stuff, though. At least you guys tried.


This.

*sigh*

Well, at least we still have Anonymous kicking a little ass now and then.
 
2012-05-05 08:04:59 PM

NobleHam: The same way Google did. Ads.


FB has ads? Thank you once again, Adblock Plus devs!
 
2012-05-05 11:21:34 PM

wedun: Marine1: Can we throw this guy out of office? Please?

Actually, not just Obama, but Congress as well.

If you could only choose to remove five of them, which democrats would you want to see removed?


Pelosi, Durbin, Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer.

I'm not sure which Repubs I'd want to see removed off the top of my head. The fact that so many of them would be likely replaced by tea partiers doesn't make me feel good. It'd be nice to see Boehner lose an election...
 
2012-05-06 01:37:17 AM
We're all going to look back at this time as the good old days of the web.
 
2012-05-06 03:45:20 AM

Marine1: I'm not sure which Repubs I'd want to see removed off the top of my head. The fact that so many of them would be likely replaced by tea partiers doesn't make me feel good. It'd be nice to see Boehner lose an election...


How many democrats need to lose thier senate seats before the country is set back on track?
 
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