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2012-05-05 04:39:11 AM  

libranoelrose: wild9: without just jumping right off the side of a mountain.

Isn't that what is normally done?


Yes. That guy just wasn't thinking.
 
2012-05-05 04:46:28 AM  
So the guy swallowed a piece of evidence and his lawyer has the nerve to say that his client is cooperating?
 
2012-05-05 04:48:07 AM  

GungFu: Sorry, I'm not a Spentmiles groupie like yourself.


You could always fix that instead being a total farking idiot. Just sayin'
 
2012-05-05 04:55:51 AM  
ktybear : If you have kids

I don't

// And don't intend to either.

// so if I ever get to a point in life where I have both the money ($35 million as of 2009) and the opportunity, you better believe my ass is going to fly into space.
 
2012-05-05 05:03:14 AM  
How much do you have now?
 
2012-05-05 05:06:48 AM  

unyon: Triumph: I don't even want to think about the police procedure manual for this one.

Pretty sure it involves a healthy handful of ziplock bags.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-05 05:14:00 AM  
Shiat mittens.
 
2012-05-05 05:15:52 AM  

Oznog: If she just let go on takeoff and let the glider leave, nothing would happen but falling on her face. It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened.


always a bummer when it's so easy to avoid death. a fat weak biatch would have lived for sure. I would be interested in the conversation between her and the pilot from the time of takeoff till she fell taking his shoe, and wonder how many seconds she hung on. I wish the video off the ass memory card would become public domain so we could see it, but I doubt we ever will get to. I'm surprised there hasn't been a leak from someone videoing from the launch point yet though.

How does tandem usually work? From the picts I found it looks like the noob goes on top of the pilot who holds the bar, so couldn't she have just rode his back? maybe didn't realize until she slid too far back, only catching the legs? Must have been a scary few seconds of slide and leg grab before 8 seconds of freefall followed by a rude landing. I wonder what she thought about during the fall... you can have a lot of thoughts in 8 seconds.

Maybe she went though the 5 stages of grief... first denial "omg, no way this just happened", followed by anger "that stupid motherfarker didn't hook me up, god damn boyfriend had to pick this", followed by bargaining "if only we did something else for our anniversary. If only I had a parachute on", then depression "fark i'm dead, this sucks", then acceptance "Oh well, I've had a good life" followed by a relaxing exhale.....

Or maybe it was an ever building panic till the end...
 
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2012-05-05 05:25:24 AM  

ZAZ: Memory dump complete.


I thought this thread was over then these gems were posted....

markie_farkie: Just think, a few short years ago, they would have been waiting for a full-size VHS tape to emerge.

OUCH, CORNERS!


MaudlinMutantMollusk: USB hell, it nearly killed 'im


good work, farkers.
 
2012-05-05 05:29:44 AM  
Was this the pilot?

content.internetvideoarchive.com

/obscure?
 
2012-05-05 05:34:54 AM  

libranoelrose: GungFu: Sorry, I'm not a Spentmiles groupie like yourself.

You could always fix that instead being a total farking idiot. Just sayin'



Oh dear, some asshole is getting irate on Fark.
 
2012-05-05 05:58:16 AM  

lordargent: ktybear : If you have kids

I don't

// And don't intend to either.

// so if I ever get to a point in life where I have both the money ($35 million as of 2009) and the opportunity, you better believe my ass is going to fly into space.


If I had the money that is one thing kids wouldn't stop, nothing would. I'd die trying
 
2012-05-05 06:17:06 AM  

libranoelrose: Who wins in this situation?


Gravity
 
2012-05-05 06:23:27 AM  

libranoelrose: Shiat mittens.


Thats the cutesy name my wife has for me!



/she's sugar-tits, now.
//which is better than her first name, Stinky-Pinky.
 
2012-05-05 06:31:48 AM  

libranoelrose: Shiat mittens.


boredomblows.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-05 06:53:01 AM  
I rode in a hot air balloon race. I guess those things can have accidents. They look (and are) clumsy and slow, so you don't think of them as "extreme"--but they're way up high, and flimsy, and not real controlled about where they're going. So I guess there was a risk. But it was fun and I'd do it again.

I let my kid climb trees when she was growing up. We were about the only parents in the neighborhood that let our kid climb trees--which we thought was a damn shame for a whole generation of kids.

There's a difference between avoiding unnecessary risk and being a wuss to the point that you won't get out there and experience life.

Deciding where to draw the line between the two is a very personal choice.
 
2012-05-05 07:06:36 AM  
That would be USB 2.0
 
2012-05-05 07:11:17 AM  
I would have chewed on it.
 
2012-05-05 07:13:14 AM  

ladyfortuna: Triumph: I don't even want to think about the police procedure manual for this one.

Hodgins has a method for retrieving all items, down to particulates...


To begin with, they had to follow his movements closely.

The second one involves a glass toilet and castor oil.

And there must be at least one cop in any police station with a poop fetish.
 
2012-05-05 07:38:57 AM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
mjg
2012-05-05 07:52:56 AM  

Rumplebluntskin: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x281]


WIN
 
2012-05-05 07:55:32 AM  

lordargent: namatad : And in the end, everything is a risk/reward trade-off, even if you dont know the risks.

Don't forget cost, cost is a factor too.

reward > risk + cost :P

Wingsuit == high reward, high risk, high cost (you have to make a shiatload of skydiivng jumps first).


I would like to try skydiving someday before I'm too old to enjoy it, but man, those wingsuits take a special kind of crazy/suicidal.
 
2012-05-05 07:59:33 AM  

Rumplebluntskin: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x281]


*golfclap*

You magnificent bastard.
 
2012-05-05 08:05:21 AM  

starsrift: SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?

It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.


This. Invented, and short for spentmiles. However if someone can CGI this scene, I would watch.
 
2012-05-05 08:12:15 AM  

wild9: Oznog: It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened

She must of held on for a loooong time. TFA said she fell nearly 1000ft. Not sure what the normal altitude gain per minute is on a hang glider in a nice thermal but it must take a few minutes to get up to that height without just jumping right off the side of a mountain.


Also ...according to TFA ... she, uh, jumped off a mountain. How did you miss that? And how do you think people hang glide? Just start off at ground elevation and wait for wind? Like a kite?
 
2012-05-05 08:26:23 AM  
AN USb port?
 
2012-05-05 08:35:57 AM  
Hang glider pilot here. The glider doesn't have a memory chip, rather it has a small camera mount attached to the wing. It can take either video or use a infrared remote to snap still pics. Someone asked about a how fast a glider gains altitude. It's usually around 300-500 feet per minute (YMMV). I've been in as little as 50 or as much as 1000 (yowsa). The woman didn't have to hang on long at all for the 1000 feet as it wasn't the glider climbing so much as the ground falling off below. I saw a picture of the area and it could have happened quite quickly.

If she wasn't hooked in, it's the most basic error a tandem pilot can make, and is inexcusable. Once when practicing on a small hill, the wind was coming and going and I was having to hook/unhook more than once. I lost track and started to run. I immediately sensed something was wrong and only ran a few steps, that and coupling it with someone yelling "STOP!", I did stop. It wouldn't have been serious and there were no injuries but a lesson learned. But there is a big difference between doing that while still in training and a tandem pilot doing that with a passenger.

As to suggesting that she wouldn't have been hurt if she had just let go, it's not reasonable to say that. I have been trained how to handle that situation, she has not. I have been around hundreds of tandems and they do not go over the scenario of taking off unhooked. It's not the passenger's responsibility as it can be their first time on a glider. You might as well say, "Well, if they had just swerved a moment earlier, they wouldn't been killed by that drunk driver who suddenly crossed the yellow line." It's not something she should be expected to know anymore than I should know how to fly that Cessna plane I was in a few years ago had the pilot croaked.

The procedure for a takeoff, tandem or single, is to have someone assist at takeoff and go through a checklist (and the first or second thing you check is the carabiners being connected and locked). However, ultimately, it is the pilot's responsibility to verify everything. I made a minor mistake that was corrected before I got in the air and wrote it up on our club's forum and said, "We missed..." Several pilots said, "You missed not 'we'" and they were correct.

If you do find yourself taking off unhooked, procedure calls for letting the glider go immediately or in the case of a cliff launch where there is no ground beneath, hang on and try to climb up into the control bar and fly it until it's high enough to utilize the chest-mounted parachute. In the case of a tandem, the pilot has the chute mounted on his chest and is in control of it. The passenger is connected to the glider via a carabiner above and is not linked to the pilot.

Hang gliding is not as dangerous as some portray. Yes, their are risks but there is with anything. It's not a suicidal endeavor and one needs to manage risks and do the basics. Inspect the glider, know the weather, know your abilities, and follow the rule, 'If there are any doubts about flying, there are no doubts that you should not fly." And for goodness sakes, make sure you are hooked in.
 
2012-05-05 08:36:34 AM  

Julie Cochrane: I rode in a hot air balloon race. I guess those things can have accidents. They look (and are) clumsy and slow, so you don't think of them as "extreme"--but they're way up high, and flimsy, and not real controlled about where they're going. So I guess there was a risk. But it was fun and I'd do it again.



encrypted-tbn0.google.com

Approves
 
2012-05-05 08:36:59 AM  

Boatmech: Charlie Freak: Ew.

Yeah, there is no way to safely GIS 'manuel extraction foreign object anal'

It's just turtles all the way down.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-05 08:39:13 AM  
Wow, the levels of fear in some of you farkers is amazing. Taking risks is part of life. I do all the 'crazy' sports, from hang and paragliding, rock and ice climbing, scuba diving, sky diving, kayaking etc. With proper training the 'risks' are pretty low. In most cases the chances of me dieing are higher on the drive to the site.

Sure I may die younger than some of you, but at least I can say I've LIVED. Think twice about living your rediculously safe lifestyle.
 
2012-05-05 08:41:51 AM  

tasteless: And how do you think people hang glide? Just start off at ground elevation and wait for wind?


Actually, it's very common to start off at ground level. Aerotowing is where you are pulled up by an ultralight and allows people in flat areas to fly. There is also winch and truck towing. Typically, I use aerotowing as I don't live near many cliffs or mountains. An example: Link
 
2012-05-05 08:45:18 AM  
This is what you said:

Lord Bear: Wow, the levels of fear in some of you farkers is amazing. Taking risks is part of life. I do all the 'crazy' sports, from hang and paragliding, rock and ice climbing, scuba diving, sky diving, kayaking etc. With proper training the 'risks' are pretty low. In most cases the chances of me dieing are higher on the drive to the site.

Sure I may die younger than some of you, but at least I can say I've LIVED. Think twice about living your rediculously safe lifestyle.


This is what I heard:

Lord Bear: Wow, you guys can actually enjoy life without massive amounts of adrenaline in your system? Gosh, how do you do that? I wish I would be able to do that, then I wouldn't have to go to ridiculous extremes just to have fun!"


That's cool, though. There's room enough in the world for both kinds of people.
 
2012-05-05 08:48:50 AM  

GungFu: libranoelrose: GungFu: You totally had me right up to the bit you mentioned 'tape'.

You mean the first half of the first sentence?

You're a quick one.


Sorry, I'm not a Spentmiles groupie like yourself.


He says tape more than once. I think he likes tape.
 
2012-05-05 08:59:12 AM  

The Kitchen Ninja
2012-05-05 03:26:26 AM

9beers: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape,

How have you seen the tape?

He's a proctologist

I don't having his head up his a-- makes him proctologist.
 
2012-05-05 09:13:42 AM  

starsrift: SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?

It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.


He's a liar.
 
2012-05-05 09:17:14 AM  

bittermang: Bail conditions also include that Mr. Orders turn over passports and secondary citizenship papers.

And now you see why they passed legislation in the US and UK requiring a passport to go to countries that once didn't require it.

It wasn't terrorism.

It was to stop criminals from moving around, at least legally.

But rest assured it only applies to criminals. Well, I mean this guy isn't technically convicted of anything yet, so he's not literally a criminal by the definition of the word. But, you know, they're pretty sure he's a bad guy and he did swallow that memory card. So yeah, just for criminals, you know, for now.

Sleep tight, citizen.


so someone who tampers with evidence that may implicate him or raise the possibility of manslaughter, possibly contradicting what he reported to police, isn't a crime on your planet? and who's to say he wouldn't hop on a plane to Mexico or another non-extraditing country?

or would you rather the police just say "welp, he swallowed the video of the dead woman's final moments with which she was alone with him. But hell he gave us his side of the story so there's no need to go any deeper into this. case closed, let'shiat the Tim Horton's and call it a day"

it would be like if I ran over a pedestrian, then immediately re-painted my car before the police showed up, then claimed "the dead person just went into a 50 mph sprint right into my front bumper, honest!" while holding a paint can in one hand and the keys in another
 
2012-05-05 09:29:44 AM  

starsrift: SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?

It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.


Fixed
 
2012-05-05 09:41:35 AM  

Lord Bear: Blleaargh.


Can we please get a third button beside Smart and Funny so we can vote for dumbasses?
 
2012-05-05 10:18:04 AM  

starsrift: : Wow, you guys can actually enjoy life without massive amounts of adrenaline in your system? Gosh, how do you do that? I wish I would be able to do that, then I wouldn't have to go to ridiculous extremes just to have fun!"

That's cool, though. There's room enough in the world for both kinds of people.


Believe what you will, but its not actually about the adrenaline. Its about interesting experiences. Its about getting out of your comfort zone. Its pretty much the same for me jumping out of an airplane as taking a dance lesson or cooking class or seeing a play.
 
2012-05-05 10:28:38 AM  

spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.


You're joking, right?

Where would you have seen the tape??
 
2012-05-05 10:35:59 AM  

OnlyM3:
He's a proctologist
I don't having his head up his a-- makes him proctologist.


You can always tell the people around here who have no sense of humor. Spentmiles is a farking wizard.
 
2012-05-05 10:54:41 AM  
Hehe, that explains this note then...

spentmiles [TotalFark] (favorite: Lies like a hero)
 
2012-05-05 11:20:17 AM  
Gabe Watson Approves
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-05 11:25:28 AM  
"Pilot in B.C. hang gliding death charged with [bowel] obstruction."

Fixed that for TFA.
 
2012-05-05 11:44:50 AM  

Jizbog: Sounds like she panicked and hung onto the bar as he left with the glider and gained some altitude as the hill dropped away beneath then. If she just let go on takeoff and let the glider leave, nothing would happen but falling on her face. It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened.

~
"I just hung on ... I saw the other fellows fall and it didn't make me feel any too good, but there was nothing I could do about it - 'ceptin to hang on tighter." -- Navy Apprentice Seaman, C.M. Cowart, May 12, 1932

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cc3_1245817465

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-05 11:50:45 AM  

Rumplebluntskin: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x281]


Nice, very nice!
 
2012-05-05 12:59:15 PM  

tasteless: wild9: Oznog: It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened

She must of held on for a loooong time. TFA said she fell nearly 1000ft. Not sure what the normal altitude gain per minute is on a hang glider in a nice thermal but it must take a few minutes to get up to that height without just jumping right off the side of a mountain.

Also ...according to TFA ... she, uh, jumped off a mountain. How did you miss that? And how do you think people hang glide? Just start off at ground elevation and wait for wind? Like a kite?


A sheer cliff is a poor choice of launch locations, but it can work. See if you're not above stall speed at the end you're just gonna fall, might strike the tail on the cliff. And the angle of attack at low speeds is really critical too, and you've got to have it "good" before the cliff. Really bad choice for tandems. Cliffs still work great on the coast though, where you've go a strong incoming wind and it's very smooth because there's no obstacles upwind to disturb the air. And they make ridge lift in front of and over the cliff.

Most inland launch hills are just a significant downhill grade.
 
2012-05-05 01:06:43 PM  

starsrift: That's cool, though. There's room enough in the world for both kinds of people.


And yet some people INSIST that drugs, gambling and prostitution be illegal.
Helmet laws? lawn darts? health insurance?

We really have a hodgepodge of laws when it comes to personal freedom and choice.
 
2012-05-05 01:08:31 PM  

Big Ramifications: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cc3_1245817465


OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW
so the ones who let go and dropped 2-10 feet, they were brave or smart?
 
2012-05-05 01:20:06 PM  

evil saltine: Boatmech: Yeah, there is no way to safely GIS 'manuel extraction foreign object anal'

I hope Manuel is well-paid.


Scatmanuel
 
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