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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-05-04 10:18:25 PM
Memory dump complete.
 
2012-05-04 11:05:14 PM
Ew.
 
2012-05-04 11:12:49 PM
Just think, a few short years ago, they would have been waiting for a full-size VHS tape to emerge.

OUCH, CORNERS!
 
2012-05-04 11:53:51 PM
USB hell, it nearly killed 'im

/data dump
 
2012-05-05 12:14:08 AM
I don't even want to think about the police procedure manual for this one.
 
2012-05-05 01:27:11 AM

Triumph: I don't even want to think about the police procedure manual for this one.


Pretty sure it involves a healthy handful of ziplock bags.
 
2012-05-05 02:15:24 AM
The man already lost a shoe. Hasn't he suffered enough?
 
2012-05-05 02:49:24 AM
Even hang-gliders have a black box...
 
2012-05-05 02:54:12 AM

Triumph: I don't even want to think about the police procedure manual for this one.


Hodgins has a method for retrieving all items, down to particulates...
 
2012-05-05 02:57:36 AM
From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.
 
2012-05-05 03:00:01 AM
i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-05 03:00:59 AM
Why in the holy fark did he swallow it in the first place? Someone done farked up.
 
2012-05-05 03:13:12 AM
I wonder what condition the card is in (aside from being all poopy) ... it sounds like he swallowed it whole. I kinda thought maybe he'd chomp on it to at least try to muck up the contacts.
 
2012-05-05 03:14:03 AM

spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.


Link?
 
2012-05-05 03:18:31 AM
I watched a video off the website, it shows a little girl with her hands on the glider right before they take off. It seems to me that's a sign of a slipshod operation. In an activity that people could get killed doing if a mistake is made, you let kids handle the gear?

On top of that, the homepage of the website has comments about how passengers should double check preparations! The nerve of those people is shocking.
 
2012-05-05 03:19:32 AM

Charlie Freak: Ew.


Yeah, there is no way to safely GIS 'manuel extraction foreign object anal'

It's just turtles all the way down.
 
2012-05-05 03:21:05 AM

SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?


It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.
 
2012-05-05 03:21:09 AM

Boatmech: Yeah, there is no way to safely GIS 'manuel extraction foreign object anal'


I hope Manuel is well-paid.
 
2012-05-05 03:22:10 AM
Bail conditions also include that Mr. Orders turn over passports and secondary citizenship papers.

And now you see why they passed legislation in the US and UK requiring a passport to go to countries that once didn't require it.

It wasn't terrorism.

It was to stop criminals from moving around, at least legally.

But rest assured it only applies to criminals. Well, I mean this guy isn't technically convicted of anything yet, so he's not literally a criminal by the definition of the word. But, you know, they're pretty sure he's a bad guy and he did swallow that memory card. So yeah, just for criminals, you know, for now.

Sleep tight, citizen.
 
2012-05-05 03:22:33 AM

spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape,


How have you seen the tape?
 
mjg
2012-05-05 03:24:32 AM
From CBC:
"[William] Orders was being held while police used daily X-rays to track the progress of the card though his body, but on Friday afternoon his lawyer told reporters the police now have the card."

/yeesh, on a lot of levels
 
2012-05-05 03:26:26 AM

9beers: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape,

How have you seen the tape?


He's a proctologist
 
2012-05-05 03:28:15 AM

evil saltine: Boatmech: Yeah, there is no way to safely GIS 'manuel extraction foreign object anal'

I hope Manuel is well-paid.


Manuel/Manual -
that's a hell of a
homonym/
hom·o·nym
 
2012-05-05 03:31:53 AM
That's thing's not going into my laptop
 
2012-05-05 03:32:05 AM
A canada trifecta? On cinco De drunko?
 
2012-05-05 03:34:50 AM
It is unwise to take unneeded risks solely for a thrill.
 
2012-05-05 03:35:15 AM
i48.tinypic.com

This particular strip was drawn over a quarter of a century ago, yet it has never failed to crack me up. Oh, how I miss Calvin and Hobbes.
 
2012-05-05 03:36:51 AM

spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.


wait this is the boyfriend's video?
link??
 
2012-05-05 03:40:00 AM

GuidoDelConfuso: [i48.tinypic.com image 600x191]

This particular strip was drawn over a quarter of a century ago, yet it has never failed to crack me up. Oh, how I miss Calvin and Hobbes.


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
might be time to reread them.
one of my favs was when he is pounding nails into the coffee table and his mom asks "what are you doing?!"b
priceless
 
2012-05-05 03:43:54 AM

theredsea1: It is unwise to take unneeded risks solely for a thrill.


this this and more this

but does that include something like scuba diving?
driving in traffic?

In the end, there are assumed risks in pretty much everything. I guess in the end it comes down to "chance of death".
Air travel on large jumbo jets? Safest way to travel long distance by far.
Anything the requires jumping our of planes or off of cliffs? well, equipment failure = death.
Rock Climbing?

The worst part is that we know for a fact that humans are TERRIBLE and worthless at computing odds and assessing risk.
FFS, how many millions of people still smoke cigarettes ???

/bah
 
2012-05-05 03:46:50 AM

starsrift: SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?

It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.


From the TFA description, he failed to connect her harness on the locking carabiner.

This isn't the first time someone did that. Normally this is just comical. The pilot starts running, the glider catches air and lifts, and the pilot expects to be lifted up right after the riser tubes shift. So he tries to transition and nothing holds him and he falls flat on his face in most cases: Kind of exactly like this. Sometimes they use hills that get pretty steep and they can tumble a long way. If you find yourself doing this, I recommend you yell "AAAAAASSSS YOU WIIIIIIISSSHHH!"

A single pilot really couldn't continue to fly by holding on like that. Sounds like she panicked and hung onto the bar as he left with the glider and gained some altitude as the hill dropped away beneath then. If she just let go on takeoff and let the glider leave, nothing would happen but falling on her face. It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened.
 
2012-05-05 03:48:01 AM

namatad: GuidoDelConfuso: [i48.tinypic.com image 600x191]

This particular strip was drawn over a quarter of a century ago, yet it has never failed to crack me up. Oh, how I miss Calvin and Hobbes.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
might be time to reread them.
one of my favs was when he is pounding nails into the coffee table and his mom asks "what are you doing?!"b
priceless


Doesn't he reply with something like, "What, is this a trick question?"
 
2012-05-05 03:49:18 AM

ZAZ: Memory dump complete.


Done in two.
 
2012-05-05 03:52:45 AM
1-I had not idea that hang-gliders had instrument that used memory cards.
2-If he swallowed it...I really don't want to know...the memory cards must be acid resistant.
3-Anyone with the balls to step on the hang glider has to accept their own fate.
 
2012-05-05 03:53:07 AM
namatad: In the end, there are assumed risks in pretty much everything. I

I follow a method derived from Burnout Takedown (TM) method.

Risk = reward.

(In the game's case, they were rewarding you with boost for dangerous driving, ex, driving on the wrong side of the road, so they wanted to cement into your head that taking risks behind the wheel meant rewards in the form of points and boost).

In my case, it's

Risk < reward

Meaning that the reward I get has to be greater than the risk I take. (and my rates are taken from statistical death charts).

The end result is that I'm perfectly fine skydiving (high reward, lower risk than driving), but won't do hang-gliding. (less reward than skydiving with a higher risk).

Continued Reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort
 
2012-05-05 03:53:30 AM
Feel bad for all involved. He did what we all would have done, save our own lives and panic. She was in an impossible situation I'm on the fence.
 
2012-05-05 03:53:48 AM
glad TFA skipped over the part where a local zoo worker orally stimulated the pilots pooter for a day to help pass the card.
 
2012-05-05 03:57:59 AM

sleeps in trees: Feel bad for all involved. He did what we all would have done, save our own lives and panic. She was in an impossible situation I'm on the fence.


...and she is in a tree.
 
2012-05-05 03:59:27 AM

lordargent: namatad: In the end, there are assumed risks in pretty much everything. I

I follow a method derived from Burnout Takedown (TM) method.

Risk = reward.

(In the game's case, they were rewarding you with boost for dangerous driving, ex, driving on the wrong side of the road, so they wanted to cement into your head that taking risks behind the wheel meant rewards in the form of points and boost).

In my case, it's

Risk < reward

Meaning that the reward I get has to be greater than the risk I take. (and my rates are taken from statistical death charts).

The end result is that I'm perfectly fine skydiving (high reward, lower risk than driving), but won't do hang-gliding. (less reward than skydiving with a higher risk).

Continued Reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort


See I drive but it scares the shiat out of me. I'd rather walk. Since I learned to drive I'm an OCD freak. I go the same routes every day, travel the same roads etc.
 
2012-05-05 04:02:22 AM
Who wins in this situation?
 
2012-05-05 04:06:02 AM

lordargent: The end result is that I'm perfectly fine skydiving (high reward, lower risk than driving), but won't do hang-gliding. (less reward than skydiving with a higher risk).

Continued Reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort


1) I HATE you for making me read that!@! :D
2) sky diving and hang-gliding are approx equal micromorts (7 vs 8). But I can see where jumping would be tons more fun than gliding.

And in the end, everything is a risk/reward trade-off, even if you dont know the risks.
 
2012-05-05 04:07:41 AM

spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.



You totally had me right up to the bit you mentioned 'tape'.

*sigh*

Now, try again.
 
2012-05-05 04:10:24 AM

GungFu: You totally had me right up to the bit you mentioned 'tape'.


You mean the first half of the first sentence?

You're a quick one.
 
2012-05-05 04:12:01 AM

Oznog: It's kind shocking that she DID manage to hang on and take off, but it sounds like that's what happened


She must of held on for a loooong time. TFA said she fell nearly 1000ft. Not sure what the normal altitude gain per minute is on a hang glider in a nice thermal but it must take a few minutes to get up to that height without just jumping right off the side of a mountain.
 
2012-05-05 04:13:11 AM

libranoelrose: Who wins in this situation?


Mike Rowe.
 
2012-05-05 04:13:45 AM

starsrift: SumoJeb: spentmiles: From what I've seen of the tape, you can clearly hear him saying, "LET GO OF ME YOU farkING biatch! YOUR GOING TO KILL US BOTH!" Pretty sick, considering he was the one that was in charge of strapping her into the harness. And you can see him kicking his feet near the end, trying to dislodge her. In a way, he's right, if she'd hung on they both probably would have died. I don't think there's anything criminal on the tape, but damn if it doesn't look and sound cowardly.

Link?

It's spentmiles. Chances are good that the scenario is entirely invented.


I personally take everything he says as the gospel truth. It makes the world a bit more colorful.
 
2012-05-05 04:16:26 AM
namatad : And in the end, everything is a risk/reward trade-off, even if you dont know the risks.

Don't forget cost, cost is a factor too.

reward > risk + cost :P

Wingsuit == high reward, high risk, high cost (you have to make a shiatload of skydiivng jumps first).
 
2012-05-05 04:16:52 AM
Did they get a Chinese zookeeper to lick his ass for hours on end?
 
2012-05-05 04:17:24 AM

lordargent: In my case, it's

Risk < reward

Meaning that the reward I get has to be greater than the risk I take. (and my rates are taken from statistical death charts).


If you have kids assessing risk is a little more difficult. Flying in a small plane and then jumping out, for your own amusement, is very different to bundling the family in an airbus and travelling overseas.

Same with driving in a way. Travelling to work or on a holiday is very different to spending every second weekend as a rally co-driver, for fun.
 
2012-05-05 04:25:25 AM

wild9: without just jumping right off the side of a mountain.


Isn't that what is normally done?
 
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